Help (not Actually This Forum), Technical Options

[unni]

TTG:

Doesn't monsterni's upload sound like Arjuna taking a respite to sing a duet with Subhadra even as the Pandavas and Kauravas are raising a din in the background?

Sounds recorded in ancient times, too!

I bet it's of archival/historical importance.

Yet, we are humbly 'grrrrrate'-ful for these tender mercies emanating from Shurpi herself.

[Priya]

Oh God! I have created a monster!!! 

Well if monster it is I have laid the blame at Ur feet in every post!!!!

[Priya]

Oh God! I have created a monster!!! 

More like you just aggravated an existing mostrosity.

I just walked into that didn't I??

U creeps!!!!!! No more songs for U!!!!!! All songs will from here on be uled with a bug so that they extract on all comps but those of the EX genies!!!!!
Bhalai ka to zamana hi nahi raha.
Aur nek aur hoshiyar batche jo apna gyan badhana chahte hain--unko bilkul hausala bhi nahi dete.

[Priya]

TTG:
Doesn't monsterni's upload sound like Arjuna taking a respite to sing a duet with Subhadra even as the Pandavas and Kauravas are raising a din in the background? 
Sounds recorded in ancient times, too!
I bet it's of archival/historical importance.   
Yet, we are humbly 'grrrrrate'-ful for these tender mercies emanating from Shurpi herself.

LOL!!!!!!
Monsterni!!!! P sings in Asha's voice--tere liye hum to ho gaye badnaam sanwariya (sanwariya being the aforementioned song!!!)
Well U can show Ur gratitude as well as technical superiority by reviving that currently dead raw thread of Urs with some more dvd rips!!!!!

[Talaikya]

U creeps!!!!!! No more songs for U!!!!!! All songs will from here on be uled with a bug so that they extract on all comps but those of the EX genies!!!!! 
Bhalai ka to zamana hi nahi raha.
Aur nek aur hoshiyar batche jo apna gyan badhana chahte hain--unko bilkul hausala bhi nahi dete.

There's a first for everything! I don't think I've ever been called a creep, loved it!
Henceforth - TTGC

Nahin nahin batche, khoob padho, khoob seekho, Main Hoon Na! My only worry is -mujhe kitna pehle seekhna parega na??!!! Ab aayi baat samajh mein???

[Priya]

There's a first for everything! I don't think I've ever been called a creep, loved it!
Henceforth - TTGC 

If U want notes on the experience U may consult Unni--he ought to have copius notes on the subject!!!!

BTW what does TTG stand for and which forum gave U that grand or dubious (whichever it may be) distinction?

Nahin nahin batche, khoob padho, khoob seekho, Main Hoon Na! My only worry is -mujhe kitna pehle seekhna parega na??!!! Ab aayi baat samajh mein??? 

Haan ab aayi baat samajh mein. But seriously my shy friend's version of the Lekh song has me humbled and in a state of sad realisation of my non existent abilities.
Talkzji teach me more!!!!!!!! How do U remove noise when the track starts with music and ends with it with not even a peep of isolated noise before or after.

[unni]

Some tracks start and/or end abruptly with loud music as intended. In such cases, I retain it the way it was, for "fading in" alters the original music. All I do is to ensure there are a few seconds of silence before and after the track.

But in instances when the recording starts abruptly in the middle of the music prelude, I use "fade in" to introduce the music gradually.

Similarly, if a song ends abruptly with the last line of the sung portion, or the music ends abruptly, I use "fade out" for a gradual tapering off, even if it means that the last few words/chords may become virtually inaudible.

When copied from audio-cassette, the "silence" before/after the song would contain 'hiss'. What I do is to delete those recorded silent sections and insert a few seconds of silence (which of course, will be without the hiss). The silence before and after the song is a requisite. Otherwise, if we burn the track onto a CD, there will be no gap between songs.

How do U remove noise when the track starts with music and ends with it with not even a peep of isolated noise before or after.

I don't know if I've answered your question. But even when you are working with a track with no silence before/after, the process of "cleaning" would be the same --- remove pop/click, softening, filtering, etc. And at the end of it all, adding a few seconds of silence before and after the track.

[Pradeep]

Moving this thread to Computing and Technology.

[Priya]

By the way, I had provided, for thine exclusive benefit, a little tutorial in the other thread which has now been moved to the Computing and Technology forum.

Post #22 at:
http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?showtopic=9378&st=15

Yes I had read that--do I reply here or there????
The thing is U edit noise in Sound forge which has a diff method. Cool edit uses snatches of the track before or after the music and vocals begin/end where there is just crackle and noise--U add that profile and it is used to clean similar noise in the part with music and vocals. So my question was when the song begins with music and ends with the same with no beginning needle scratch etc what does one do? If U selct any portion the music gets recorded by the sw as noise U have selcted and it gets removed over the whole track!!! Do U understand the problem now? Thanks for the tips on fading in/out.

[unni]

Do U understand the problem now? Thanks for the tips on fading in/out.

Just as in regard to you, I understand the problem but don't have a solution.

I use Sound Forge, so let's wait for the CoolEdit experts, including the answer to " And why does the sw need 7 hrs to remove crackle"?

I use a program called DePopper which minimizes the 'big clicks' and then minimizes the 'small pops', in less than a minute. Even Goldwave has that function, but I've not found it effective. But surely, there's something odd about this "7-hour" business.

(I've moved your post from the "LEKH" song thread to this appropriate venue).

[Dharmaan Khan]

If the source is horrible there is not much u can do.

Guru

im glad u understand the importance of this now

[Guru]

If the source is horrible there is not much u can do.

Guru

im glad u understand the importance of this now

Lo Mera Guru aa gaya. Priya if anyone can get it at its best is dharmaan. Im still in the learning process he has lot of experienceo on vynls and recordings.

Guru ka chela

[Dharmaan Khan]

If the source is horrible there is not much u can do.

Guru

im glad u understand the importance of this now

Lo Mera Guru aa gaya. Priya if anyone can get it at its best is dharmaan. Im still in the learning process he has lot of experienceo on vynls and recordings.

Guru ka chela

im still in the dark ages man, and u know about my memory lapses, im sufferin from that at the moment, so u carry on helping till i get better

[Talaikya]

So my question was when the song begins with music and ends with the same with no beginning needle scratch etc what does one do? If U selct any portion the music gets recorded by the sw as noise U have selcted and it gets removed over the whole track!!!

Sometimes u get lucky, there will be a pause in the song (esp soon after the start), where there's almost no music. I play the song expanding the visual, so that I can see the pause too, if any ... and then use that as the profile. Failing which you rely on all the other Noise reduction effects. I haven't ever got a 7 hour wait to reduce crackle, mainly because I refuse to listen to anything "horrendous", honestly, I just can't stand all that noise, I get physically ill - headaches and all!! Max. I have had to wait has been an hour maybe, I suppose the time would depend on all the settings, which I don't understand, just muddle through. Hope I haven't confused and confounded you Good luck!

[Dharmaan Khan]

So my question was when the song begins with music and ends with the same with no beginning needle scratch etc what does one do? If U selct any portion the music gets recorded by the sw as noise U have selcted and it gets removed over the whole track!!!

Sometimes u get lucky, there will be a pause in the song (esp soon after the start), where there's almost no music. I play the song expanding the visual, so that I can see the pause too, if any ... and then use that as the profile. Failing which you rely on all the other Noise reduction effects. I haven't ever got a 7 hour wait to reduce crackle, mainly because I refuse to listen to anything "horrendous", honestly, I just can't stand all that noise, I get physically ill - headaches and all!! Max. I have had to wait has been an hour maybe, I suppose the time would depend on all the settings, which I don't understand, just muddle through. Hope I haven't confused and confounded you Good luck!

can we have that in urdu plz