Carvaan Gujar Gaya...., Life Philosphy by poets |
Carvaan Gujar Gaya...., Life Philosphy by poets |
usrafian |
Mar 29 2005, 11:05 AM
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Dear Friends,
Gopaldas Saxena 'Neeraj', a well known name among Poet & Lyricist, has pen-down hard-fact of life in his poem 'Carvaan Gujar Gaya'. AND immortal RAFI had made it immortal. We are living in mechanical world, always busy busy & busy, no time to even think that we are not made for this, God has given us master-key 'reasoning' which is improperly used by us. Let us have rest of some moments to analyse & conclude our past/present life. Carvaan Gujar Gayaa Jashn Jhare Phool Se, Meet Chupbhe Shool Se, Lut Gaye singaar Sabhi , Baag Ke Babul Se, Aur Hum Khade Khade Bahar Dekhte Rahe Carvaa(n) Gujar Gayaa, Gubbaar Dekhte Rahe. [SAMAY KA KHEL] Neend Bhi Khooli Na Thi Ke Haaye Dhoop Dhal Gaee Panv Jab Talak Uthe(n) Ke Jindagee Fisal Gayee Paat Paat Jhar Gaye, Ke Shaakh Shaakh Jal Gayee Chaah To Nikal Saki Na per Umar Nikal Gayee Par Umar Nikal Gayee Geet Ashk Ban Gaye, Swapn Ho Dafan Gaye Saath Ke Diye Sabhee, Dhuaa(n) Pahan Pahan Gaye Aur Hum Jhuke Jhuke Mod Par Ruke Ruke Umar Ke Chadav Ka Utaar Dekhte Rahe Carvaa(n) Gujar Gayaa, Gubbaar Dekhte Rahe. [PARIVARTAN] Kya Shabaab Tha Ke Phool Phool Pyar Kar Utha Kya Kamaal Tha Ke Dekh Ayinaa Sihar Utha Us Taraf Zameen Aur Aasmaa(n) Idhar Utha Tham Kar Jigar Utha Ke Jo Mila Najar Utha Ke Jo Milaa Najar Uthaaa Ek Din Yahaa(n) Magar Aisee Kuch Hawaa Chali Lut Gayee Kali Kali Ke Ghut Gayee Gali Gali Aur Hum Lute Lute Waqt Se Pite Pite Saans Ki Sharab Ka Khumaar Dekhte Rahe (Saans not Sham as per kind courtesy of dear ROM) Carvaa(n) Gujar Gayaa, Gubbaar Dekhte Rahe. [UNHONEE] Maang Bhar Chali Ke Jab Nayee Nayee Kiran Dhol Se Dhunuk Uthi Thumuk Uthe Charan Charan Shor Mach Gaya Ke Lo Chali Dulhan Chali Dulhan Gaon Sab Umad Padaa Behek Uthe Nayan Nayan Behek Uthe Nayan Nayan Magar Tabhi Zehar Bhari Ek Gaaz Veh Giri Punch Gayaa Sindoor Taar Taar Huyee Chunree Aur Hum Ajaan Se Door Ke Makan Se Palki Liye Huye Kahaar Dekhte Rahe Carvaa(n) Gujar Gayaa, Gubbaar Dekhte Rahe. [MERI KAHANI] Haath The Mile Ke Zulf Chand Ki Sanvaar Doo(n) Aounth The Khule Ke Har Bahaar Ko Pukaar Loo(n) Dard Tha Diyaa Gayaa Ke Har Dukhee Ko Pyar Doo(n) Aur Saans Yoo(n) Ke Swarg Bhoomi Par Utar Doo(n) Bhoomi Par Utaaar Dooo(n) Ho Sakaa Na Kuch Magar Sham Ban Gayee Sahar Vo Uthi Lehar Ke Dheh Gaye Kile Bikhar Bikar Aur Hum Dare Dare Neer Nain Mein Bhare Aoudh Kar Kafan Pade Majar Dekhte Rahe Carvaa(n) Gujar Gayaa, Gubbaar Dekhte Rahe. Gubbar Dekhte Rahe Gubbar Dekhte Rahe... This post has been edited by usrafian: Mar 29 2005, 02:45 PM Dil Shaad Tha Ke Phool Khilenge Bahaar Mein
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rom |
Mar 29 2005, 11:28 AM
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Waah, kya kamal likha hei! Aur kya gayaki hei!
QUOTE Panv Jab Talak Uthe(n) Ke Jindagee Fisal Gayee Paat Paat Jhar Gaye, Ke Shaakh Shaakh Jal Gayee Chaah To Nikal Saki Na per Umar Nikal Gayee How true it is! QUOTE Sham Ki Sharab Ka Khumaar Dekhte Rahe Are you absolutely sure about these lines, Usrafian? Don't have the song with me right now, but I seem to remember this part as something else. THE INTELLIGENT MUST MAKE CONCESSIONS! |
usrafian |
Mar 29 2005, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE(rom @ Mar 29 2005, 11:28 AM) Waah, kya kamal likha hei! Aur kya gayaki hei! QUOTE Panv Jab Talak Uthe(n) Ke Jindagee Fisal Gayee Paat Paat Jhar Gaye, Ke Shaakh Shaakh Jal Gayee Chaah To Nikal Saki Na per Umar Nikal Gayee How true it is! QUOTE Sham Ki Sharab Ka Khumaar Dekhte Rahe Are you absolutely sure about these lines, Usrafian? Don't have the song with me right now, but I seem to remember this part as something else. Dear ROM, In my life, I have some incidences, which are God’s boon for me. When I was in IX th standard, once in a week, one period (of 35 minutes) was reserved for general talks (except study). The presiding Sir for that period was of highly poetic nature. Once he sang this poem very lovely voice that we all were fulfilled (flooded) with enormous joy, The whole classroom echoed…once more sir, once more sir. He put one condition that he will sang stanza by stanza & all students have to explain it in their own words. We happily agreed. It took one month (4 periods) to finish the poem. During that period the classroom was happened to be full-jammed. One stanza & one full week to discuss among ourselves, aahaaaa , the moments were sweeter than honey. Each word, each stanza is carved on my heart, Pl believe me. By the way thanks for your comments. God bless you Dil Shaad Tha Ke Phool Khilenge Bahaar Mein
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rom |
Mar 29 2005, 12:54 PM
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You were really blessed to have such a teacher, Usrafian! We desperately need to have more such people in academics, especially to work with younger kids.
However, in respect to this song, this particular line actually is 'Saans ki sharab ka khumar dekhte rahe'... makes a world of difference from 'Sham ki sharab ka khumar dekhte rahe', I hope you'll agree. Godbless! THE INTELLIGENT MUST MAKE CONCESSIONS! |
zippoo |
Mar 29 2005, 01:20 PM
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I was reading the above interchange with great interest because my (failing) memory of this particular line was different. I always remembered it as "Saaz ki sharaab ka khumaar dekhte rahe". Jab tak yeh maamla tai nahin ho jaata, neend aani badhhi mushkil hai.
Utna Hee Upkaar Samajh Koyi Jitna Saath Nibha De
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usrafian |
Mar 29 2005, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE(rom @ Mar 29 2005, 12:54 PM) You were really blessed to have such a teacher, Usrafian! We desperately need to have more such people in academics, especially to work with younger kids. However, in respect to this song, this particular line actually is 'Saans ki sharab ka khumar dekhte rahe'... makes a world of difference from 'Sham ki sharab ka khumar dekhte rahe', I hope you'll agree. Godbless! Dear ROM You are right that saans & shaam have lot of diffrences. The word 'Khumaar' itself justifice which is the proper word. Sharab Sham ki hoti hai saans ki nahi ho sakti. Also see the refrences mentioned in above two lines. Dil Shaad Tha Ke Phool Khilenge Bahaar Mein
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Talaikya |
Mar 29 2005, 01:36 PM
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so that Zippo ji can sleep...
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rom |
Mar 29 2005, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE zippo: I always remembered it as "Saaz ki sharaab ka khumaar dekhte rahe". It indeed sounds more like 'saaz' than 'shaam'. QUOTE Usrafian: The word 'Khumaar' itself justifice which is the proper word. Sharab Sham ki hoti hai saans ki nahi ho sakti. Dear Usrafian, ab mein aapko kya bataun, khumaar saans ka bhi ho sakta hei! The intoxication/joy of living, loving. And I believe that's what the poet meant. Do listen to it carefully, and I think you'll agree it's not 'shaam'. 'Shaam', evening, is too obvious and simplistic a word for poetry of such depth of feeling and subtlety. A mere drunkard's inebriation, rather's than the sublime joy of living! All of the above is IMHO! THE INTELLIGENT MUST MAKE CONCESSIONS! |
usrafian |
Mar 29 2005, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(rom @ Mar 29 2005, 02:04 PM) QUOTE zippo: I always remembered it as "Saaz ki sharaab ka khumaar dekhte rahe". It indeed sounds more like 'saaz' than 'shaam'. QUOTE Usrafian: The word 'Khumaar' itself justifice which is the proper word. Sharab Sham ki hoti hai saans ki nahi ho sakti. Dear Usrafian, ab mein aapko kya bataun, khumaar saans ka bhi ho sakta hei! The intoxication/joy of living, loving. And I believe that's what the poet meant. Do listen to it carefully, and I think you'll agree it's not 'shaam'. 'Shaam', evening, is too obvious and simplistic a word for poetry of such depth of feeling and subtlety. A mere drunkard's inebriation, rather's than the sublime joy of living! All of the above is IMHO! Dear ROM You are correct it is 'Saans ki Sharab'. Making the correction in the topic (also re-carving it) Dil Shaad Tha Ke Phool Khilenge Bahaar Mein
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rom |
Mar 29 2005, 03:57 PM
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Good, good. Very graceful of you. You'll agree that now the line becomes much more profound!
THE INTELLIGENT MUST MAKE CONCESSIONS! |
zippoo |
Mar 29 2005, 11:27 PM
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Talaikya Ji,
Bahut Shukriyazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Utna Hee Upkaar Samajh Koyi Jitna Saath Nibha De
Janam Maran Ka Meyl Hai Sapna Yeh Sapna Bisra De |
usrafian |
Mar 30 2005, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE(Talaikya @ Mar 29 2005, 01:36 PM) Talaikyaji Thanks for u/l . It was not in my collection, hearing it after so many years, aahaaa!!! Thanks again. Dil Shaad Tha Ke Phool Khilenge Bahaar Mein
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usrafian |
Mar 30 2005, 10:58 AM
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OK friends, let's continue our journey....
Sahir Ludhiyanvi Shahab, the most respectable name among the 2nd generation 'shayer'. I luve to re-call him as Shair-E-Azam Sahir, a philosopher, a Thinker, a Analyzer, ........ Life is like a mirror which reflects back mostly surrounding colours.... Aage Bhee Jaane Na Tu, Peeche Bhi Jaane Na Tu Jo Bhee Hai Bas Yahi Ik Pal Hai Anjaane Saayon Ka, Rahon Mein Deraa Hai, Andekhi Baahon Ne, Hum Sab Ko Gheraa Hai, Ye Pal Ujaalaa Hai, Baaki Andheraa Hai, Ye Pal Ganvaana Na, Ye Pal Hi Teraa Hai, Jeene Waale Soch Le, Yahi Waqt Hai Kar Le Puri Arzoo. Is Pal Ke Jalwo(n) Ne , Mehfil Sanvaaree Hai, Is Pal Ki Garmee(n) Ne , Dhadkan Ubhaaree Hai, Is Pal Ke Hone Se , Duniyaa(n) Hamaree Hai, Ye Pal Jo Dekho To, Sadeeyo(n) Pe Bharee Hai, Jeene Waale Soch Le, Yahi Waqt Hai Kar Le Puri Arzoo. Is Pal Ke Saaye Mein, Apna Thikaana Hai, Is Pal Ke Aagye Ki , Har Shaye Fasaana Hai, Kal Kisne Dekha Hai, Kal Kisne Jaanaa Hai, Is Pal Se Paayega, Jo Tujhko Paanaa Hai Jeene Waale Soch Le, Yahi Waqt Hai Kar Le Puri Arzoo. Dil Shaad Tha Ke Phool Khilenge Bahaar Mein
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usrafian |
Apr 1 2005, 12:34 PM
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Life Philosphy as per Shailendra-Mahan :- Kisi Ki Muskurahaton Pe Ho Nisaar, Kisi Ka Dard Mil sake To Le Udhaar Kisi Ke Vaaste Ho Tere Dil Mein Pyaar, Jeena isi Ka Naam Hai Maana Apni Jeb Se fakir Hain, Phir Bhi Yaaro Dil Ke Hum Amir Hain Mite Jo Pyar Ke Liye Vo Jindagee, Jale Bahar Ke Liye Vo Jindagee, Kahega Phool Har Kali Se Bar Bar, Jeena isi Ka Naam Hai. Rishta Dil Se Dil Ke Aitbar Ka, Jinda Hai Hameen Se Naam Pyar Ka, Ke Mar Ke Bhi Kisi Ko Yaad Aayenge, Kisi Ke Ansuon Mein Muskurayenge, Kisi Ko Ho Na Ho Hamen To Aitbar, Jeena isi Ka Naam Hai. Dil Shaad Tha Ke Phool Khilenge Bahaar Mein
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Apr 1 2005, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE(usrafian @ Mar 29 2005, 11:05 AM) kaarvaa.n guzar gayaa swapn jhare phuul se, miit chubhe shuul se, luT gaye singaar sabhi, baaG ke babuul se, aur ham khaRe khaRe bahaar dekhte rahe kaarvaa.n guzar gayaa, Gubaar dekhte rahe. [SAMAY KA KHEL] niind bhii khulir na thii ke haaye dhuup Dhal gaii paa.nv jab talak uThe ke zindagee phisal gayii paat paat jhar gaye, ke shaaK shaaK jal gayii chaah to nikal saki na par umar nikal gayii par umar nikal gayii geet ashk ban gaye, swapn ho dafan gaye saath ke sabhii diye, dhuaa.n pahen pahen gaye aur hum jhuke jhuke moR par ruke ruke umr ke chaRhaav ka utaar dekhte rahe kaarvaa.n guzar gayaa, Gubaar dekhte rahe. [PARIVARTAN] kya shabaab tha ke phuul phuul pyaar kar uTha kya kamaal tha ke dekh aainaa sihar uTha us taraf zamiin aur aasmaa.n idhar uTha thaam kar jigar uTha ke jo mila nazar uTha ke jo milaa nazar uThaaa ek din yahaa.n magar aisii kuchh hawaa chalii luT gayii kalii kalir ke ghuT gayee galii galii aur ham luTe luTe waqt se piTe piTe saa.njh kii sharaab kaa Kumaar dekhte rahe (Saans not Sham as per kind courtesy of dear ROM) Saanjh not saans kaarvaa.n guzar gayaa, Gubaar dekhte rahe [UNHONEE] maang bhar chalii ke jab ek nayee nayee kiran Dholke.N dhunak uThii.n Thumak uThe charan charan shor mach gaya ke lo chali dulhan chali dulhan gaa.nv sab umaR paRaa bahek uThe nayan nayan bahek uThe nayan nayan par tabhii zaher bharii gaaj ek vah girii pu.nchh gayaa sinduur taar taar huii chunrii aur ham ajaan se duur ke makaan se palki liye huye kahaar dekhte rahe kaarvaa.n guzar gayaa, Gubaar dekhte rahe. [MERI KAHANI] haath the mile ke zulf chand Kii sa.nvaar duu.n ho.nTh the khule ke har bahaar ko pukaar luu.n dard tha diyaa gayaa ke har dukhii ko pyaar duu.n aur saa.ns yuu.n ke swarg bhuumi par utaar duu.n bhuumi par utaar duu.n ho sakaa na kuchh magar shaam ban gayee sahar vo uThii Laher ke Dheh gaye qile bikhar bikhar aur ham Dare Dare neer nain me.n bhare oRh kar kafan paRe mazaar dekhte rahe kaarvaa.n guzar gayaa, Gubaar dekhte rahe. Gubaar dekhte rahe. Gubaar dekhte rahe. I've tried to correct and put it in itrans. It is saa.njh kii sharaab kaa Kumaar dekhte rahe and swapn jhare not jashn jhare. |
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