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usrafian
Dear Friends,

Gopaldas Saxena 'Neeraj', a well known name among Poet & Lyricist, has pen-down hard-fact of life in his poem 'Carvaan Gujar Gaya'.

AND immortal RAFI had made it immortal.

We are living in mechanical world, always busy busy & busy, no time to even think that we are not made for this, God has given us master-key 'reasoning' which is improperly used by us. Let us have rest of some moments to analyse & conclude our past/present life.


Carvaan Gujar Gayaa

Jashn Jhare Phool Se, Meet Chupbhe Shool Se,
Lut Gaye singaar Sabhi , Baag Ke Babul Se,
Aur Hum Khade Khade Bahar Dekhte Rahe
Carvaa(n) Gujar Gayaa, Gubbaar Dekhte Rahe.

[SAMAY KA KHEL]
Neend Bhi Khooli Na Thi Ke Haaye Dhoop Dhal Gaee
Panv Jab Talak Uthe(n) Ke Jindagee Fisal Gayee
Paat Paat Jhar Gaye, Ke Shaakh Shaakh Jal Gayee
Chaah To Nikal Saki Na per Umar Nikal Gayee
Par Umar Nikal Gayee
Geet Ashk Ban Gaye, Swapn Ho Dafan Gaye
Saath Ke Diye Sabhee, Dhuaa(n) Pahan Pahan Gaye
Aur Hum Jhuke Jhuke Mod Par Ruke Ruke
Umar Ke Chadav Ka Utaar Dekhte Rahe
Carvaa(n) Gujar Gayaa, Gubbaar Dekhte Rahe.

[PARIVARTAN]
Kya Shabaab Tha Ke Phool Phool Pyar Kar Utha
Kya Kamaal Tha Ke Dekh Ayinaa Sihar Utha
Us Taraf Zameen Aur Aasmaa(n) Idhar Utha
Tham Kar Jigar Utha Ke Jo Mila Najar Utha
Ke Jo Milaa Najar Uthaaa
Ek Din Yahaa(n) Magar Aisee Kuch Hawaa Chali
Lut Gayee Kali Kali Ke Ghut Gayee Gali Gali
Aur Hum Lute Lute Waqt Se Pite Pite
Saans Ki Sharab Ka Khumaar Dekhte Rahe (Saans not Sham as per kind courtesy of dear ROM)
Carvaa(n) Gujar Gayaa, Gubbaar Dekhte Rahe.

[UNHONEE]
Maang Bhar Chali Ke Jab Nayee Nayee Kiran
Dhol Se Dhunuk Uthi Thumuk Uthe Charan Charan
Shor Mach Gaya Ke Lo Chali Dulhan Chali Dulhan
Gaon Sab Umad Padaa Behek Uthe Nayan Nayan
Behek Uthe Nayan Nayan
Magar Tabhi Zehar Bhari Ek Gaaz Veh Giri
Punch Gayaa Sindoor Taar Taar Huyee Chunree
Aur Hum Ajaan Se Door Ke Makan Se
Palki Liye Huye Kahaar Dekhte Rahe
Carvaa(n) Gujar Gayaa, Gubbaar Dekhte Rahe.

[MERI KAHANI]
Haath The Mile Ke Zulf Chand Ki Sanvaar Doo(n)
Aounth The Khule Ke Har Bahaar Ko Pukaar Loo(n)
Dard Tha Diyaa Gayaa Ke Har Dukhee Ko Pyar Doo(n)
Aur Saans Yoo(n) Ke Swarg Bhoomi Par Utar Doo(n)
Bhoomi Par Utaaar Dooo(n)
Ho Sakaa Na Kuch Magar Sham Ban Gayee Sahar
Vo Uthi Lehar Ke Dheh Gaye Kile Bikhar Bikar
Aur Hum Dare Dare Neer Nain Mein Bhare
Aoudh Kar Kafan Pade Majar Dekhte Rahe
Carvaa(n) Gujar Gayaa, Gubbaar Dekhte Rahe.
Gubbar Dekhte Rahe
Gubbar Dekhte Rahe...
rom
Waah, kya kamal likha hei! Aur kya gayaki hei!

QUOTE
Panv Jab Talak Uthe(n) Ke Jindagee Fisal Gayee
Paat Paat Jhar Gaye, Ke Shaakh Shaakh Jal Gayee
Chaah To Nikal Saki Na per Umar Nikal Gayee

How true it is!

QUOTE
Sham Ki Sharab Ka Khumaar Dekhte Rahe

Are you absolutely sure about these lines, Usrafian? Don't have the song with me right now, but I seem to remember this part as something else.
usrafian
QUOTE(rom @ Mar 29 2005, 11:28 AM)
Waah, kya kamal likha hei! Aur kya gayaki hei!

QUOTE
Panv Jab Talak Uthe(n) Ke Jindagee Fisal Gayee
Paat Paat Jhar Gaye, Ke Shaakh Shaakh Jal Gayee
Chaah To Nikal Saki Na per Umar Nikal Gayee

How true it is!

QUOTE
Sham Ki Sharab Ka Khumaar Dekhte Rahe

Are you absolutely sure about these lines, Usrafian? Don't have the song with me right now, but I seem to remember this part as something else.
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Dear ROM,

In my life, I have some incidences, which are God’s boon for me.
When I was in IX th standard, once in a week, one period (of 35 minutes) was reserved for general talks (except study). The presiding Sir for that period was of highly poetic nature. Once he sang this poem very lovely voice that we all were fulfilled (flooded) with enormous joy,
The whole classroom echoed…once more sir, once more sir. He put one condition that he will sang stanza by stanza & all students have to explain it in their own words. We happily agreed. It took one month (4 periods) to finish the poem. During that period the classroom was happened to be full-jammed.
One stanza & one full week to discuss among ourselves, aahaaaa , the moments were sweeter than honey.

Each word, each stanza is carved on my heart, Pl believe me.

By the way thanks for your comments.
God bless you
rom
You were really blessed to have such a teacher, Usrafian! We desperately need to have more such people in academics, especially to work with younger kids.
However, in respect to this song, this particular line actually is 'Saans ki sharab ka khumar dekhte rahe'... makes a world of difference from 'Sham ki sharab ka khumar dekhte rahe', I hope you'll agree.
Godbless!
zippoo
I was reading the above interchange with great interest because my (failing) memory of this particular line was different. I always remembered it as "Saaz ki sharaab ka khumaar dekhte rahe". Jab tak yeh maamla tai nahin ho jaata, neend aani badhhi mushkil hai.
usrafian
QUOTE(rom @ Mar 29 2005, 12:54 PM)
You were really blessed to have such a teacher, Usrafian! We desperately need to have more such people in academics, especially to work with younger kids.
However, in respect to this song, this particular line actually is 'Saans ki sharab ka khumar dekhte rahe'... makes a world of difference from 'Sham ki sharab ka khumar dekhte rahe', I hope you'll agree.
Godbless!
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Dear ROM

You are right that saans & shaam have lot of diffrences.
The word 'Khumaar' itself justifice which is the proper word.
Sharab Sham ki hoti hai saans ki nahi ho sakti.
Also see the refrences mentioned in above two lines.


Talaikya
so that Zippo ji can sleep...
rom
QUOTE
zippo:
I always remembered it as "Saaz ki sharaab ka khumaar dekhte rahe".

It indeed sounds more like 'saaz' than 'shaam'.

QUOTE
Usrafian:
The word 'Khumaar' itself justifice which is the proper word.
Sharab Sham ki hoti hai saans ki nahi ho sakti.

Dear Usrafian, ab mein aapko kya bataun, khumaar saans ka bhi ho sakta hei! The intoxication/joy of living, loving. And I believe that's what the poet meant.
Do listen to it carefully, and I think you'll agree it's not 'shaam'.
'Shaam', evening, is too obvious and simplistic a word for poetry of such depth of feeling and subtlety. A mere drunkard's inebriation, rather's than the sublime joy of living!
All of the above is IMHO!
usrafian
QUOTE(rom @ Mar 29 2005, 02:04 PM)
QUOTE
zippo:
I always remembered it as "Saaz ki sharaab ka khumaar dekhte rahe".

It indeed sounds more like 'saaz' than 'shaam'.

QUOTE
Usrafian:
The word 'Khumaar' itself justifice which is the proper word.
Sharab Sham ki hoti hai saans ki nahi ho sakti.

Dear Usrafian, ab mein aapko kya bataun, khumaar saans ka bhi ho sakta hei! The intoxication/joy of living, loving. And I believe that's what the poet meant.
Do listen to it carefully, and I think you'll agree it's not 'shaam'.
'Shaam', evening, is too obvious and simplistic a word for poetry of such depth of feeling and subtlety. A mere drunkard's inebriation, rather's than the sublime joy of living!
All of the above is IMHO!
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Dear ROM

You are correct it is 'Saans ki Sharab'.
Making the correction in the topic (also re-carving it)
rom
Good, good. Very graceful of you. You'll agree that now the line becomes much more profound!
zippoo
Talaikya Ji,

Bahut Shukriyazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
usrafian
QUOTE(Talaikya @ Mar 29 2005, 01:36 PM)
so that Zippo ji can sleep...
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Talaikyaji

Thanks for u/l . It was not in my collection, hearing it after so many years, aahaaa!!!

Thanks again.
usrafian
OK friends, let's continue our journey....

Sahir Ludhiyanvi Shahab, the most respectable name among the 2nd generation 'shayer'. I luve to re-call him as Shair-E-Azam Sahir, a philosopher, a Thinker, a Analyzer, ........

Life is like a mirror which reflects back mostly surrounding colours....

Aage Bhee Jaane Na Tu, Peeche Bhi Jaane Na Tu
Jo Bhee Hai Bas Yahi Ik Pal Hai

Anjaane Saayon Ka, Rahon Mein Deraa Hai,
Andekhi Baahon Ne, Hum Sab Ko Gheraa Hai,
Ye Pal Ujaalaa Hai, Baaki Andheraa Hai,
Ye Pal Ganvaana Na, Ye Pal Hi Teraa Hai,
Jeene Waale Soch Le, Yahi Waqt Hai Kar Le Puri Arzoo.

Is Pal Ke Jalwo(n) Ne , Mehfil Sanvaaree Hai,
Is Pal Ki Garmee(n) Ne , Dhadkan Ubhaaree Hai,
Is Pal Ke Hone Se , Duniyaa(n) Hamaree Hai,
Ye Pal Jo Dekho To, Sadeeyo(n) Pe Bharee Hai,
Jeene Waale Soch Le, Yahi Waqt Hai Kar Le Puri Arzoo.

Is Pal Ke Saaye Mein, Apna Thikaana Hai,
Is Pal Ke Aagye Ki , Har Shaye Fasaana Hai,
Kal Kisne Dekha Hai, Kal Kisne Jaanaa Hai,
Is Pal Se Paayega, Jo Tujhko Paanaa Hai
Jeene Waale Soch Le, Yahi Waqt Hai Kar Le Puri Arzoo.
usrafian

Life Philosphy as per Shailendra-Mahan :-

Kisi Ki Muskurahaton Pe Ho Nisaar,
Kisi Ka Dard Mil sake To Le Udhaar
Kisi Ke Vaaste Ho Tere Dil Mein Pyaar,
Jeena isi Ka Naam Hai

Maana Apni Jeb Se fakir Hain,
Phir Bhi Yaaro Dil Ke Hum Amir Hain
Mite Jo Pyar Ke Liye Vo Jindagee,
Jale Bahar Ke Liye Vo Jindagee,
Kahega Phool Har Kali Se Bar Bar,
Jeena isi Ka Naam Hai.

Rishta Dil Se Dil Ke Aitbar Ka,
Jinda Hai Hameen Se Naam Pyar Ka,
Ke Mar Ke Bhi Kisi Ko Yaad Aayenge,
Kisi Ke Ansuon Mein Muskurayenge,
Kisi Ko Ho Na Ho Hamen To Aitbar,
Jeena isi Ka Naam Hai.

asad
QUOTE(usrafian @ Mar 29 2005, 11:05 AM)

kaarvaa.n guzar gayaa

swapn jhare phuul se, miit chubhe shuul se,
luT gaye singaar sabhi, baaG ke babuul se,
aur ham khaRe khaRe bahaar dekhte rahe
kaarvaa.n guzar gayaa, Gubaar dekhte rahe.

[SAMAY KA KHEL]
niind bhii khulir na thii ke haaye dhuup Dhal gaii
paa.nv jab talak uThe ke zindagee phisal gayii
paat paat jhar gaye, ke shaaK shaaK jal gayii
chaah to nikal saki na par umar nikal gayii
par umar nikal gayii
geet ashk ban gaye, swapn ho dafan gaye
saath ke sabhii diye, dhuaa.n pahen pahen gaye
aur hum jhuke jhuke moR par ruke ruke
umr ke chaRhaav ka utaar dekhte rahe
kaarvaa.n guzar gayaa, Gubaar dekhte rahe.

[PARIVARTAN]
kya shabaab tha ke phuul phuul pyaar kar uTha
kya kamaal tha ke dekh aainaa sihar uTha
us taraf zamiin aur aasmaa.n idhar uTha
thaam kar jigar uTha ke jo mila nazar uTha
ke jo milaa nazar uThaaa
ek din yahaa.n magar aisii kuchh hawaa chalii
luT gayii kalii kalir ke ghuT gayee galii galii
aur ham luTe luTe waqt se piTe piTe
saa.njh kii sharaab kaa Kumaar dekhte rahe (Saans not Sham as per kind courtesy of dear ROM) Saanjh not saans
kaarvaa.n guzar gayaa, Gubaar dekhte rahe

[UNHONEE]
maang bhar chalii ke jab ek nayee nayee kiran
Dholke.N dhunak uThii.n Thumak uThe charan charan
shor mach gaya ke lo chali dulhan chali dulhan
gaa.nv sab umaR paRaa bahek uThe nayan nayan
bahek uThe nayan nayan
par tabhii zaher bharii gaaj ek vah girii
pu.nchh gayaa sinduur taar taar huii chunrii
aur ham ajaan se duur ke makaan se
palki liye huye kahaar dekhte rahe
kaarvaa.n guzar gayaa, Gubaar dekhte rahe.

[MERI KAHANI]
haath the mile ke zulf chand Kii sa.nvaar duu.n
ho.nTh the khule ke har bahaar ko pukaar luu.n
dard tha diyaa gayaa ke har dukhii ko pyaar duu.n
aur saa.ns yuu.n ke swarg bhuumi par utaar duu.n
bhuumi par utaar duu.n
ho sakaa na kuchh magar shaam ban gayee sahar
vo uThii Laher ke Dheh gaye qile bikhar bikhar
aur ham Dare Dare neer nain me.n bhare
oRh kar kafan paRe mazaar dekhte rahe
kaarvaa.n guzar gayaa, Gubaar dekhte rahe.
Gubaar dekhte rahe.
Gubaar dekhte rahe.
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I've tried to correct and put it in itrans. It is saa.njh kii sharaab kaa Kumaar dekhte rahe and swapn jhare not jashn jhare.
usrafian
QUOTE(asad @ Apr 1 2005, 02:38 PM)
QUOTE(usrafian @ Mar 29 2005, 11:05 AM)

kaarvaa.n guzar gayaa

swapn jhare phuul se, miit chubhe shuul se,
luT gaye singaar sabhi, baaG ke babuul se,
....

saa.njh kii sharaab kaa Kumaar dekhte rahe (Saans not Sham as per kind courtesy of dear ROM) Saanjh not saans
kaarvaa.n guzar gayaa, Gubaar dekhte rahe

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I've tried to correct and put it in itrans. It is saa.njh kii sharaab kaa Kumaar dekhte rahe and swapn jhare not jashn jhare.
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Dear Asad,
WELCOME.
So nice!! itrans does really represents meaningful words. You are correct it is 'swapn' and Saanjh/Shaam words are objectionable by 'CENSOR' authorities,(ROM bhai ne sun liyea the phir debate shroo ho jayega) it doesn't make much diff. saans/saaj/sham/saanjh etc.
Poets/Shairs, after penning down, run-away & never come back for explanation they just says ..
Zamaana Ye Insaaf Kartaa Rahe..

Kindly add-up something related to this topic please.
Once again thanks for the corrections.


unni
I don't know if you've already come across this interview with Kavi Neeraj:
http://historytalking.com/hindi.htm
Talaikya
QUOTE(usrafian @ Mar 30 2005, 12:15 AM)
Talaikyaji

Thanks for u/l . It was not in my collection, hearing it after so many years, aahaaa!!!

Thanks again.
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Did you want the full song then? poseur.gif smile1.gif
usrafian
QUOTE(Talaikya @ Apr 2 2005, 01:02 PM)
QUOTE(usrafian @ Mar 30 2005, 12:15 AM)
Talaikyaji

Thanks for u/l . It was not in my collection, hearing it after so many years, aahaaa!!!

Thanks again.
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Did you want the full song then? poseur.gif smile1.gif
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Talaikyaji

Neki Aur Pooch Pooch

Please u/l , waiting camera.gif
usrafian
QUOTE(unni @ Apr 1 2005, 07:11 PM)
I don't know if you've already come across this interview with Kavi Neeraj:
http://historytalking.com/hindi.htm
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Dear Unniji

I tried to download Karwaan... from the mentioned link, I don't know why it is not getting d/l, it shows just 159kb mp3 file. If you have detail about the interview kindly u/l it.
I have mentioned Asad that 'after penning down poets runs-away' .. This I mean to say that some creativity works can be done only in 'Trans' & the output is so pure that it is always relevant at any TIME, at any PLACE, at any DIMENSION.
Let any one can see it from any angle & it will get fitted. 'Carvaan.. ' the poem has the same calibration.

At the site, they have also mentioned about shri Haribansh Roy Bacchan. During my college days we were having Madhushaala in our syllabus as hire level language. I hope most of H/F friends are well aware about it. Great Philosphy of life is mentioned in 'Madhushalaa', penning down one 'Rubayee' from it....

Apne Apne Yug Mein Sabko
Gyaat Huyee Anupam, Apni Haalaa, [Haala=wine]
Apne Apne Yug Mein Sabko
Gyaat huyaa Anupam, Apna Pyaalaa,

Phir Bhi Vridhon Se Jab Puchha, [Vidhon=old wise men]
Ek Yahi Uttar Payaa,
Ab Na Rahe Vo Peene Vaale
Ab Na Rahi Vo Madhushalaa.



Talaikya
QUOTE(usrafian @ Apr 4 2005, 12:12 AM)
Talaikyaji

Neki Aur Pooch Pooch

Please u/l , waiting  camera.gif
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Sorry to keep you waiting, sometimes it slips my mind, feel free to PM me and remind me.
The incomparable -
Sapne Jhare Phoolse … Carvan Guzar Gaya, Nai Umr Ki Nai Fasal (1965), Roshan, Neeraj.
6:30 mins @ 128kbps
unni
QUOTE(usrafian @ Apr 4 2005, 12:32 AM)

Dear Unniji

I tried to download Karwaan...  from the mentioned link, I don't know why it is not getting d/l, it shows just 159kb mp3 file. If you have detail about the interview kindly u/l it.
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To the best if my knowledge, the site is not programmed for "download" --- users can just listen to the audio.

But I can 'capture' the streaming audio and send it to you. Just let me know which tracks you want.
rom
QUOTE
usrafian:
ROM bhai ne sun liyea the phir debate shroo ho jayega

No, no need for debates... the beauty of poetry is that it can be variously interpreted.

QUOTE
During my college days we were having Madhushaala in our syllabus as hire level language. I hope most of H/F friends are well aware about it.

And I do hope that you have/have heard the brilliant singing of Madhushala by Manna Dey in the 1980s...
usrafian
QUOTE(unni @ Apr 6 2005, 12:06 PM)
To the best if my knowledge, the site is not programmed for "download" --- users can just listen to the audio.

But I can 'capture' the streaming audio and send it to you. Just let me know which tracks you want.
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Dear Unniji,

I would lv to hear 'Carvaan gujra Gaya...' track, other parts are for R&D on Neerajji, that I will cover later on.

By the way, thanks a lot for caring my interest. bow.gif
usrafian
QUOTE(rom @ Apr 6 2005, 12:12 PM)
QUOTE
usrafian:
ROM bhai ne sun liyea the phir debate shroo ho jayega

No, no need for debates... the beauty of poetry is that it can be variously interpreted.

QUOTE
During my college days we were having Madhushaala in our syllabus as hire level language. I hope most of H/F friends are well aware about it.

And I do hope that you have/have heard the brilliant singing of Madhushala by Manna Dey in the 1980s...
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My dear ROM

You very much correct 'the beauty of poetry is that it can be variously interpreted'.

Unfortunately, I have not heard Manna Da singing Madhushala (live) but I was told that it is available in cassette in which first 20 Rubayees were by Harbans Ray Bacchan & rest is by Manna Da.

Earlier I have mentioned, the things I love most , resides in my heart. Same rule applies to 'Madhushala' also.

Dear ROM, I am overwhelmed seeing your love for poetry.
Thanks for your loveble comments, pl keep it up.
rom
In fact, I was talking about the recording only... I only meant that the recording was made in the 1980s. And it's really beautiful. The version I have heard has Bachchan saab reciting a couplet in the beginning, and then Manna-da takes over.
And I guess everybody loves poetry... in song or verse... and my love for it is obviously much less than yours. smile1.gif
usrafian
QUOTE(Talaikya @ Apr 6 2005, 11:51 AM)

Sorry to keep you waiting, sometimes it slips my mind, feel free to PM me and remind me.
The incomparable -
Sapne Jhare Phoolse … Carvan Guzar Gaya, Nai Umr Ki Nai Fasal (1965), Roshan, Neeraj. 
6:30 mins @ 128kbps
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Talaikyaji,

Thankyou very very much for u/l the full version.
unni
QUOTE(usrafian @ Apr 6 2005, 01:45 AM)
Dear Unniji,

I would lv to hear 'Carvaan gujra Gaya...' track, other parts are for R&D on Neerajji, that I will cover later on.

By the way, thanks a lot for caring my interest. bow.gif
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unni
QUOTE(usrafian @ Apr 6 2005, 01:55 AM)
Unfortunately, I have not heard Manna Da singing Madhushala (live) but I was told that it is available in cassette in which first 20 Rubayees were by Harbans Ray Bacchan & rest is by Manna Da.
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I have the "Madhushala" album. Please let me know if you'd like me to upload it.
usrafian
QUOTE(unni @ Apr 6 2005, 05:58 PM)
QUOTE(usrafian @ Apr 6 2005, 01:55 AM)
Unfortunately, I have not heard Manna Da singing Madhushala (live) but I was told that it is available in cassette in which first 20 Rubayees were by Harbans Ray Bacchan & rest is by Manna Da.
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I have the "Madhushala" album. Please let me know if you'd like me to upload it.
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Unni-The Great bow.gif bow.gif
Dear Sir,
No words to express my gratitutes.

Please u/l it at the earliest.

This, my request is, for the coming generations. I am very much sure that the day will come when popularity of HF Database(indian- music,poem,lyrics,songs,...) will be towers miles high than 'Google' .
unni
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unni
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usrafian
QUOTE(unni @ Apr 6 2005, 05:55 PM)
QUOTE(usrafian @ Apr 6 2005, 01:45 AM)
Dear Unniji,

I would lv to hear 'Carvaan gujra Gaya...' track, other parts are for R&D on Neerajji, that I will cover later on.

By the way, thanks a lot for caring my interest. bow.gif
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Dear Unniji,

Got It !!!
bow.gif
It is good to have poem in poet's voice, worth for collection.

Good to hear also.[Rafi version is worthless]

worthless = nothing is as worthy as Rafi-Version
man123
QUOTE(usrafian @ Mar 29 2005, 11:05 AM)
Dear Friends,

Gopaldas Saxena 'Neeraj', a well known name among Poet & Lyricist, has pen-down hard-fact of life in his poem 'Carvaan Gujar Gaya'.

AND immortal RAFI had made it immortal.

We are living in mechanical world, always busy busy & busy, no time to even think that we are not made for this, God has given us master-key 'reasoning'  which is improperly used by us. Let us have rest of some moments to analyse & conclude  our past/present life.


Carvaan Gujar Gayaa

Jashn Jhare Phool Se, Meet Chupbhe Shool Se,
Lut Gaye singaar Sabhi , Baag Ke Babul Se,
Aur Hum Khade Khade Bahar Dekhte Rahe
Carvaa(n) Gujar Gayaa, Gubbaar Dekhte Rahe.

[SAMAY KA KHEL]
Neend Bhi Khooli Na Thi Ke Haaye Dhoop Dhal Gaee
Panv Jab Talak Uthe(n) Ke Jindagee Fisal Gayee
Paat Paat Jhar Gaye, Ke Shaakh Shaakh Jal Gayee
Chaah To Nikal Saki Na per Umar Nikal Gayee
Par Umar Nikal Gayee
Geet Ashk Ban Gaye, Swapn Ho Dafan Gaye
Saath Ke Diye Sabhee, Dhuaa(n) Pahan Pahan Gaye
Aur Hum Jhuke Jhuke Mod Par Ruke Ruke
Umar Ke Chadav Ka Utaar Dekhte Rahe
Carvaa(n) Gujar Gayaa, Gubbaar Dekhte Rahe.

[PARIVARTAN]
Kya Shabaab Tha Ke Phool Phool Pyar Kar Utha
Kya Kamaal Tha Ke Dekh Ayinaa Sihar Utha
Us Taraf Zameen Aur Aasmaa(n) Idhar Utha
Tham Kar Jigar Utha Ke Jo Mila Najar Utha
Ke Jo Milaa Najar Uthaaa
Ek Din Yahaa(n) Magar Aisee Kuch Hawaa Chali
Lut Gayee Kali Kali Ke Ghut Gayee Gali Gali
Aur Hum Lute Lute Waqt Se Pite Pite
Saans Ki Sharab Ka Khumaar Dekhte Rahe (Saans not Sham as per kind courtesy of dear ROM)
Carvaa(n) Gujar Gayaa, Gubbaar Dekhte Rahe.

[UNHONEE]
Maang Bhar Chali Ke Jab Nayee Nayee Kiran
Dhol Se Dhunuk Uthi Thumuk Uthe Charan Charan
Shor Mach Gaya Ke Lo Chali Dulhan Chali Dulhan
Gaon Sab Umad Padaa Behek Uthe Nayan Nayan
Behek Uthe Nayan Nayan
Magar Tabhi Zehar Bhari Ek Gaaz Veh Giri
Punch Gayaa Sindoor Taar Taar Huyee Chunree
Aur Hum Ajaan Se Door Ke Makan Se
Palki Liye Huye Kahaar Dekhte Rahe
Carvaa(n) Gujar Gayaa, Gubbaar Dekhte Rahe.

[MERI KAHANI]
Haath The Mile Ke Zulf Chand Ki Sanvaar Doo(n)
Aounth The Khule Ke Har Bahaar Ko Pukaar Loo(n)
Dard Tha Diyaa Gayaa Ke Har Dukhee Ko Pyar Doo(n)
Aur Saans Yoo(n) Ke Swarg Bhoomi Par Utar Doo(n)
Bhoomi Par Utaaar Dooo(n)
Ho Sakaa Na Kuch Magar Sham Ban Gayee Sahar
Vo Uthi Lehar Ke Dheh Gaye Kile Bikhar Bikar
Aur Hum Dare Dare Neer Nain Mein Bhare
Aoudh Kar Kafan Pade Majar Dekhte Rahe
Carvaa(n) Gujar Gayaa, Gubbaar Dekhte Rahe.
Gubbar Dekhte Rahe
Gubbar Dekhte Rahe...
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Dear usrafian,

Thanks for starting this interesting topic.

I am attaching the last stanza of the beautiful poem ...


Maang bhar chali ki ek, jab nayi nayi kiran,
Dholake(n) dhumuk uthi(n), Thumuk uthe charan charan,
Shor mach gaya ki lo chali dulhan, chali dulhan,
Gaon sab umad pada , bahak uthe nayan nayan,
par tabhi zahar bhari,
Gaz ek woh giri,
poonchh gaya sindoor taar taar huyi chunari,
aur hum ajaan se,
door ke makaan se,
palaki liye huye kahaar dekhte rahe !
Kaarava gujar gaya, gubaar dekhte rahe !!

Rafi saheb did an excellent job while rendering these written emotions.



And, to continue the topic, i am adding one of my favorite song written by Great Indeevar saheb ...


Oh Re Taal Mile Nadi Ke Jal Me(n)
Nadii Mile Saagar Me(n)
Saagar Mile Kaun Se Jal Me(n)
Koi Jaane Naa
Oh Re Taal Mile Nadii Ke Jal Me(n) ...

Suuraj Ko Dharatii Tarase
Dharatii Ko Chandrama ...
Paanii Me(n) Seep Jaise Pyaasii Har Aatama
O Mitavaa Re ...
Paanii Me(n) Seep Jaise Pyaasii Har Aatama

Boond Chhupii Kis Baadal Me(n)
Koi Jaane Naa ...
Oh Re Taal Mile Nadii Ke Jal Me(n)


Anjaane Hontho(n) Par kyu
Pahachaane Giit Hai(n) ...
Kal Tak Jo Begaane The Janamo(n) Ke Miit Hain
O Mitavaa Re ...
Kal Tak Jo Begaane The Janamo(n) Ke Miit Hain

Kyaa Hogaa Kaun Se Pal Me(n)
Koi Jaane Naa ...
Oh Re Taal Mile Nadii Ke Jal Me(n) ...


Movie : Anokhi Raat.
MD : Roshan Saheb



Paanii Me(n) Seep Jaise Pyaasii Har Aatama ... wat a lovely and true thought. bow.gif


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- Man
usrafian
QUOTE(man123 @ Apr 11 2005, 05:23 PM)
Dear usrafian,

Thanks for starting this interesting topic.


And, to continue the topic, i am adding one of my favorite song written by Great Indeevar saheb ...


[i]Oh Re Taal Mile Nadi Ke Jal Me(n)

Paanii Me(n) Seep Jaise Pyaasii Har Aatama
O Mitavaa Re ... 

Anjaane Hontho(n) Par kyu
Pahachaane Giit Hai(n) ...
Kal Tak Jo Begaane The Janamo(n) Ke Miit Hain
O Mitavaa Re ...
Kal Tak Jo Begaane The Janamo(n) Ke Miit Hain

Paanii Me(n) Seep Jaise Pyaasii Har Aatama ... wat a lovely and  true thought.  bow.gif


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- Man
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Dear Man123, clap1.gif

Lovely welcome bro.
Beautiful additions in the thread. Pl cont. the same.

Kavivar Indivarji has proved in this poem that simple words are more penetrating, marvelous !!!

What you have highlighted &
Kal Tak Jo Begane The Janmon Ke Meet Hain...

are real life happeinings.

Pl carry on.


rom
Thanks for Madhushala, Unni-ji! I had this in a cassette.
Thanks also for sharing 'Kaarvaan Guzar Gaya' in the poet's own voice. Having heard it, I now believe it is 'saaz ki sharab ka khumar' in the passage earlier discussed in this thread.
usrafian
QUOTE(unni @ Apr 9 2005, 07:01 AM)


Dear Unniji-the great, clap1.gif

'Madhushala' great poetry by Bacchanji, I request to all members of HF to, atleast, read it once but due to language problem it may not be possible to all to read. Now due to your great effort & help by u/l 'Madhushala' , you have made it possble. I have no words to express my gratitude to you.

This HF will always be in debts to Pradeepji , you & your team.

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usrafian
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[quote=usrafian,Apr 11 2005, 01:15 PM]
[quote=unni,Apr 6 2005, 05:55 PM][quote=usrafian,Apr 6 2005, 01:45 AM]Dear It is good to have poem in poet's voice, worth for collection.

Good to hear also.[Rafi version is worthless]
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Dear Friends,

Pl excuse me for my poor knowledge of language, as well as my overjoy reactions.

Here I have mentioned 'Rafi version is worthless' mean to say
'Nothing is as worthy as Rafi Version'
usrafian
Following is a try to translate the 'Carvaan Gujar Gaya...'
on request of Mr Shakeel.

Dear Shakeel,


I translated the poem as promised in hindi/roman, kindly go thru & give your comments/suggestions :-

Swapan Jhare Phool Se, Meet Chubhe Shool Se,
Lut Gaye Singaar Sabhi , Baag Ke Babul Se,
Aur Hum Khade Khade Bahar Dekhte Rahe
Carvaa(N) Gujar Gayaa, Gubbaar Dekhte Rahe
.

Sapne Jab Dekhe The, Us Waqt To Khilte Phoolon Ki Tarah Lagey The, Vehi Sapne Aaj Murjhaye Huye Phoolon Ki Tarah Lag Rahe Hain. Mera Singaar, Hushn, Dhal Gaya , Aaj Mein Khud Ko Babul Ke Ped Ki Tarah Mashoosh Kar Raha Hoon, Jisme Na To Phool Lagte Hain , Na Phal Lage Hain, Na Hi Hariyaali Aati Hai.
Jo Saathi Us Waqt Man Ke Miit The Vahi Saathi Aaj Kanton Ki Tarah Chubh Rahe Hain
Hum jawani Ke Nazaron Mein Leen Rahe , Aur Caravan(Umar) Nikal Gaya , piche ye Mitti ka gubbar (budaape ka) chod gaya.

Carvaan Yahaan Par Umar Ke Shabab(Young Age) Ka Partik Hai.

Umar Jab Apne Shabab Par Thi To Kitni Khubsurat Thi Aaj Dhalti Umar Mein Kuch Bhi Achha Nahin Lag Raha. Man Ke Miit Kyon Chubhe ?
1- Vo Isliye Ki Miit To Gujar Gaye Unki Yadden Kante Ki Tarah Khatak Rahin Hain.
2- Jo khubsurat lagte the aaj badsurat nazar aa rahe hain, unki taraf dekha nahi ja raha hai.



[Samay Ka Khel]
Neend Bhi Khooli Na Thi Ke Haaye Dhoop Dhal Gaee
Panv Jab Talak Uthe(N) Ke Jindagee Fisal Gayee
Paat Paat Jhar Gaye, Ke Shaakh Shaakh Jal Gayee
Chaah To Nikal Saki Na Per Umar Nikal Gayee
Par Umar Nikal Gayee


Abhi Raat Ki Neend Puri Bhi Nahi Huyee Thi Ke Shaam Ho Gayee,
Naachne Ke Liye Jab Tak Panv Uthata(jindagi ka lutf leta us se pehle), Jindagi Puri Ho Gayee
Abhi Tak Maine Jindagii Ka Anand Puri Tarah Se Nahin Utahya Tha Aur Jindagi Ka Safar Pura Ho Gaya.
Is Shareer Rupee Ped Ke Patte Jhar Gaye Aur Shaken Jal Gayeen ,
Mera Shareer Bejaan Hone Lagaa Hai , Na To Josh Rahaa Aur Na Hii Jor Raha Lekin Meri Icchyaayen (Chah) Vaisee Hii Hain.

‘Hazaron Khwahishen Aisee , Ke Har Khwahish Pe Dam Nikle
Bahut Nikle Mere Armaan , Phir Bhi Kam Nikle.


Geet Ashk Ban Gaye, Swapn Ho Dafan Gaye
Saath Ke Diye Sabhee, Dhuaa(N) Pahan Pahan Gaye
Aur Hum Jhuke Jhuke Mod Par Ruke Ruke
Umar Ke Chadav Ka Utaar Dekhte Rahe
Carvaa(N) Gujar Gayaa, Gubbaar Dekhte Rahe.
Mere Geet Aansoo Ban Gaye,

Jo Sapne Dekhe The Vo Sab Mitti Mein Mil Gaye,
Mere Sabhi Saathi Gujar Gaye , Aur Main Akela Is Vridhavastha(Old Age, Budaapa) Mein Jhuke Kandhon Aur Jhuki Kamar Liye , Jhuka Jhuka Sa jindagi ke is mod par khada khada, Jindganee Ke Chadav Ka Utar Dekh Raha Hoon.


[Parivartan]
Kya Shabaab Tha Ke Phool Phool Pyar Kar Utha
Kya Kamaal Tha Ke Dekh Ayinaa Sihar Utha
Us Taraf Zameen Aur Aasmaa(N) Idhar Utha
Tham Kar Jigar Utha Ke Jo Mila Najar Utha
Ke Jo Milaa Najar Uthaaa


Aisa Mera Shabab Tha Ke Har Koyee Mujhse Pyar Karne Ke Chah Rakhta Tha
Mere Roop, Hushn Ki Taab To Ayinaa Bhi Bardasht Nahi Kar Pata Tha, Har Kisi Ki Aankh Mujh Par Atak Jaati Thi , Jo Bhi Milta Tha Vo Jigar Tham Kar Milta Tha

Ek Din Yahaa(N) Magar Aisee Kuch Hawaa Chali
Lut Gayee Kali Kali Ke Ghut Gayee Gali Gali
Aur Hum Lute Lute Waqt Se Pite Pite
Saans Ki Sharab Ka Khumaar Dekhte Rahe
Carvaa(N) Gujar Gayaa, Gubbaar Dekhte Rahe
.

Waqt Gujrata Gaya Aur Sehar Sham Mein Dhalne Lagi , Mera Hushn-O-Shabab, Sab Dhal Gaya. Mein Khud Ko Luta Luta Sa Mehsoos Karne Lagaa, Khud Ko Waqt Ke Hathon Pita Sa Mehsoos Kar Rahaa Hoon, Aaj Aiyane Mein Khud Ki Shakal Bhi Dekhne Ki Himmat Nahi Ho Rahee Hai .
Saans Ki Sharab (Jawani) Jab Utri To Ye Khumari(Budappe Ki) Chah Gayee, Khumari Ka Aalam Yaane Udasi Se Bhara, Kuch Na Karne Ki Chah, Susht Pada Soch Raha Hoon.


[Unhonee]
Maang Bhar Chali Ke Ek Jab Nayee Nayee Kiran
Dhol Se Dhunuk Uthi Thumuk Uthe Charan Charan
Shor Mach Gaya Ke Lo Chali Dulhan Chali Dulhan
Gaon Sab Umad Padaa Behek Uthe Nayan Nayan
Behek Uthe Nayan Nayan


Khushi Ka Mahol Tha,, Dhol Baj Rahe The , Sabhi Khushi Mein Naach Gaa Rahe The,
Dulhan Ki Bidayee Hone Ja Rahi Thi, Ye Dekhne Ke Liye Sabhi Vahan Umar Pade, Beti Ki Vidaayee Ki Vajah Se Sabhi Ki Ankhen Bheegi Huyee Thi.

Magar Tabhi Zehar Bhari Ek Gaaz Veh Giri
Punch Gayaa Sindoor Taar Taar Huyee Chunree
Aur Hum Ajaan Se Door Ke Makan Se
Palki Liye Huye Kahaar Dekhte Rahe
Carvaa(N) Gujar Gayaa, Gubbaar Dekhte Rahe.


Magar Tabhi Unhonee Ho Gayee, Dulhan Ko Le Jaane Wala Dulha Nahin Pahunch Paya, (Accident/Heart Attack Or Any Reason, He Expired At That Very Moment )
Ladki Ka Sindoor Punch Gaya, Jo Lal Chunar Vidayee Ke Waqt Pehnai Jati Hai Veh Taar Taar Kar Ke Phad De Gayee, Darwaaze Par Doli Liye Kahar , Dulhan Ko Le Jaane Ke Liye Khade The, Aur Hum Is Dukh Se Jan Kar Anjaan Bane Is Manzar Ko Door Se Dekh Rahe The.(Ye To Jindagi Nahin, ‘Kisi Ki Muskarahton Pe Ho Nissar, Kisi Ka Dard Mil Sake To Le Utha, Kisi Ke Vaaste Ho Tere Dil Mein Pyar, Jeena Isi Ka Naam Hai)


[Meri Kahani]
Haath The Mile Ke Zulf Chand Ki Sanvaar Doo(N)
Aounth The Khule Ke Har Bahaar Ko Pukaar Loo(N)
Dard Tha Diyaa Gayaa Ke Har Dukhee Ko Pyar Doo(N)
Aur Saans Yoo(N) Ke Swarg Bhoomi Par Utar Doo(N)
Bhoomi Par Utaaar Dooo(N)


Vo Mere Saath Tha, Mujhe Junnat Ki Bhi Chah Nahi Thi.
Mere Paas Itna Hunar Tha Ki Jo Chahun Vo Ho Jaata Tha
Dil Mein Dusron Ka Dard Bhi Samjta Aur Mehsoos Karta Tha Aur Unki Har Tarah Se Madad Karne Ki Chah Thi
Itna Honsla Tha Ki Swarg Ko Zameen Par Utar Sakta Tha

Ho Sakaa Na Kuch Magar Sham Ban Gayee Sahar
Vo Uthi Lehar Ke Dheh Gaye Kile Bikhar Bikar
Aur Hum Dare Dare Neer Nain Mein Bhare
Aoudh Kar Kafan Pade Majar Dekhte Rahe
Carvaa(N) Gujar Gayaa, Gubbaar Dekhte Rahe.


Lekin Aisa Kuch Nahin Ho Saka , Umar Gujarti Gayee Aur , Halat Kuch Aise Badle Ki Saari Tamnnayen Bikar Kar Reh Gayeen, Ab Mera Saathi Mere Saath Nahin Hai, Mein Akela Reh Gayaa, Ab Bas Apni Umeedon Aur Yaadon Ke Majaron Ko(Umeeden Puri Nahi Ho Saki) Bhari Ankhon Se Dekh Raha Hoon.

usrafian
Dear Friends,

Situation comes in life when a person become lonely & the effect of this loneliness is well described by Shailendra Mahan in following lines :-

Vahaan Koun Hai Tera, Musafir Jayega Kahaan,
Dum Le Le , Dum Le Le
Dum Le Le Ghadi Bhar , Ye Chhaniyaan Payega Kahaan

Beet Gaye Din,
Pyar Ke Pal Chhin,
Sapna Bani Vo Raaten , Sapna Bani Vooo Raaten.
Bhool Gaye Vo,
Tu Bhi Bhula De,
Pyar Ki Vo Mulaqaaten, Pyaaar Ki Vo Mulaqaaten
Sab Door Andhera,
Musafir Jayegaa Kahaan

Koyee Bhi Teri,
Raaha Na Dekhe,
Nain Bicchhaaye Na Koyee, Nain Bicchhaaye Na Koyee.
Dard Se Tere,
Koyee Na Tadpaa,
Ankh Kisi Ki Na Royee, Ankh Kisi Ki Na Royee
Kahe Kisko Tu Meraa,
Musafir Jayegaa Kahaan

Kehatey Hain Gyaani,
Duniyaa Hai Phaani,
Paani Pe Likhi Likhaayee, Paani Pe Likhi Likhaayee.
Hai Sabki Dekhi,
Hai Sabki Jaanee,
Haath Kisike Na Aayee, Haath Kisi Ke Na Aaayeee
Kuch Tera Na Mera
Musafir Jaayegaa Kahaan

Is it true that under such circumstances , mind generates special enzymes which leads it towards death ?
usrafian
The situation of 'Carvaan Gujar Gaya(of good period) ' is a compulsion for all, hence we should always mentally prepare ourselves to face this fact.
I don't dare to say this alone....

Nida Fazli sahab Says :-

Yunoo Hee Hota Hai Sadaa, Har Chunri Ke Sang
Panchee Ban Kar Dhoop Mein, Ud Jaate Hain Rang

Confusion is also a definate stage of life which well defined by - Shailendra Mahan

Raat Aur Din Diya Jale, Mere Man Mein, Phir Bhi Andhiyaara Hai,
Jaane Kahan Hai Vo Saathi, Tu Jo Mile Jeevan Ujyaara Hai.

Pag Pag Man Mera Thokar Khaaye, Chand Suraj Bhi Rahaa Na Dikhaaye
Aisa Ujaala Koi Man Mein Samaaye, Jis Se Piya Ka Darshan Mil Jaaye

Gehraa Ye Bhed Koi Mujhko Bataaye, Kis Ne Kiyaa Hai Mujh Par Anyaye
Jiska Hi Deep Vo Bujh Nahin Paaye, Jyoti Diye Ki Duje Ghar Ko Sajaaye

Khud Nahi(n) Jaane Dundhe Kis Ko Najar, Koun Dishaa Hai Mere Man Ki Dagar
Kitna Ajab Hai Ye Dil Ka Safar, Jiyaraa Mein Aaye Jaise Koi Lehar.


usrafian
VAIRAAGYA...
Neutral state of mind, One step towards God.
Whenever we goes to ‘shamshan/Kabragah/Cemetery’ , this 'Vairaagya' overcomes everyone which is called as 'Samshaan Vairaagya'. Ofcourse it is temprary state of mind, as soon as we come out from the place everything becomes normal. What if that temperary state don't change ?

Well described by Shailendra Mahan & doubly(?)well sung by Jogan Geeta with Sudha Malhotra:-


Na Mai.n Dhan Chaahuu.n, Na Ratan Chaahuu.n
Tere Charano.n Kii Dhuul Mil Jaaye
To Mai.n Tar Jaauu.n, Haa.n Mai.n Tar Jaauu.n
He Raam Tar Jaauu.n...

Moh Man Mohe, Lobh Lalachaaye
Kaise Kaise Ye Naag Laharaaye
Isase Pahale Ki Man Udhar Jaaye
Mai.n To Mar Jaauu.n, Haa.n Mai.n Mar Jaauu.n
He Raam Mar Jaauu.n

Tham Gayaa Paanii, Jam Gayii Kaayii
Bahatii Nadiyaa Hii Saaf Kahalaayii
Mere Dil Ne Hii Jaal Phailaaye
Ab Kidhar Jaauu.n, Mai.n Kidhar Jaauu.n
Ab Kidhar Jaauu.n, Mai.n Kidhar Jaauu.n
Tere Charano.n Kii Dhuul Mil Jaaye
To Mai.n Tar Jaauu.n, Haa.n Mai.n Tar Jaauu.n
He Raam Tar Jaauu.n...

Laaye Kyaa The Jo Leke Jaanaa Hai
Nek Dil Hii Teraa Khazaanaa Hai
Shaam Hote Hi Panchhii Aa Jaaye
Ab To Ghar Jaauu.n Apane Ghar Jaauu.n
Ab To Ghar Jaauu.n Apane Ghar Jaauu.n
Tere Charano.n Kii Dhuul Mil Jaaye
To Mai.n Tar Jaauu.n, Haa.n Mai.n Tar Jaauu.n
He Raam Tar Jaauu.n...

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