Its a well known fact that Asha ji sang maximum number of songs filmed on the famous actress dancer Helen. It seems that some of Geeta ji's songs are filmed on the dancing diva Helen. The most famous one being "Mera naam chin chin choo" from Howrah Bridge.
While browsing youtube I happened to see the video of the song "Dil se dil takarayein" from the film Love Marriage. This song is filmed on Helen.
Found this video also on youtube but audio not working for me. Don't know who's singing for whom? It seems to be a geeta-lata duet from yahudi picturised on cuckoo and helen.
hildebrand
Dec 29 2008, 11:29 PM
kahan chali re kahan chali (duet with rafi) from Pyar Ki Dastaan (I don't have the song though) seems to have been picturised on helen and mohan choti.
parag_sankla
Dec 29 2008, 11:32 PM
QUOTE(hildebrand @ Dec 29 2008, 09:56 AM)
Found this video also on youtube but audio not working for me. Don't know who's singing for whom? It seems to be a geeta-lata duet from yahudi picturised on cuckoo and helen.
Yes, its Geeta ji singing for young Helen in the song "Bechain dil khoyi si nazar" from Yahudi
Cheers Parag
HumTum
Dec 29 2008, 11:40 PM
Night Club Club 1958 --- music by Madan Mohan --- lyrics by Majrooh
Kahan Phir Hum Kahan...
HumTum
Dec 29 2008, 11:42 PM
Aab-e-hayat 1955 --- music by Sardar Malik --- lyrics by Hasrat Jaipuri
Maara Re Maara..
HumTum
Dec 29 2008, 11:45 PM
Bedard Zamana Kya Jaane 1959 --- music by Kalyanji Virji Shah --- lyrics by Bharat Vyas Unchhi Neechi --- with Rafi sahab
HumTum
Dec 29 2008, 11:47 PM
12 O Clock 1958 --- music by O.P. Nayyar --- lyrics by Majrooh
Arey Tauba Yeh Teri Ada
parag_sankla
Dec 30 2008, 12:02 PM
QUOTE(HumTum @ Dec 29 2008, 09:52 AM)
Parag bhai I will check from my end too.
HT bhai, many thanks for your initiative. Lets make a list of all these songs..
Best Regards Parag
parag_sankla
Jan 5 2009, 10:30 AM
So the list so far is
Mera naam chin chin choo - Howrah Bridge Dil se dil takarayein - Love Marriage kahan chali re kahan chali - Pyar Ki Dastaan Bechain dil khoyi si nazar- Yahudi Kahan Phir Hum Kahan - Night Club Club Maara Re Maara - Aab-e-hayat Oonchi edhi walon ne - Bedard Zamana Kya Jaane Arey Tauba Yeh Teri Ada - 12 O Clock
Any more ??
parag_sankla
Jan 9 2009, 12:26 AM
QUOTE(hildebrand @ Dec 29 2008, 09:59 AM)
kahan chali re kahan chali (duet with rafi) from Pyar Ki Dastaan (I don't have the song though) seems to have been picturised on helen and mohan choti.
HB
I saw this song on youtube yesterday and the actress in the song is not Helen.
kahan chali re kahan chali (duet with rafi) from Pyar Ki Dastaan (I don't have the song though) seems to have been picturised on helen and mohan choti.
HB
I saw this song on youtube yesterday and the actress in the song is not Helen.
The author of the webpage I read it on must have been mistaken then.
So the list reduces to:-
Mera naam chin chin choo - Howrah Bridge Dil se dil takarayein - Love Marriage Bechain dil khoyi si nazar- Yahudi Kahan Phir Hum Kahan - Night Club Club Maara Re Maara - Aab-e-hayat Oonchi edhi walon ne - Bedard Zamana Kya Jaane Arey Tauba Yeh Teri Ada - 12 O Clock
parag_sankla
Jan 12 2009, 09:52 AM
Thanks HB,
so are there any more songs of Geeta ji filmed on Helen ?
Parag
hildebrand
Jan 20 2009, 12:52 AM
QUOTE(parag_sankla @ Jan 12 2009, 09:52 AM)
Thanks HB,
so are there any more songs of Geeta ji filmed on Helen ?
Parag
I discovered one more very great and wonderful song sung by Geeta ji for Helen today. I say discovered because I saw it for the first time today having loved its melody for long.
The song is none other than Aye Haaye Dilruba from Dr. Vidya. The song is set in an old students get together in the college. Helen and Vyjyanthimala have an argument. Then Helen breaks into this song. The song begins with Helen dancing to Geetaji's lovely voice. Vyjyanthimala joins later and Asha Bhosle sings for her! A lovely song and dance is also great with them dancing in competition to each other!
parag_sankla
Jan 20 2009, 09:04 PM
HB,
Thanks for this information. So the only ones who could "hear" this song were the lucky ones who watched it in the theater (or on VCD/DVD now). RPG should bring a compilation of such songs of Geeta ji.
Regards Parag
hildebrand
Jan 20 2009, 10:18 PM
Yes, that would be a good idea. But would RPG be interested in doing this?
parag_sankla
Jan 21 2009, 11:37 PM
QUOTE(hildebrand @ Jan 19 2009, 11:22 AM)
QUOTE(parag_sankla @ Jan 12 2009, 09:52 AM)
Thanks HB,
so are there any more songs of Geeta ji filmed on Helen ?
Parag
I discovered one more very great and wonderful song sung by Geeta ji for Helen today. I say discovered because I saw it for the first time today having loved its melody for long.
The song is none other than Aye Haaye Dilruba from Dr. Vidya. The song is set in an old students get together in the college. Helen and Vyjyanthimala have an argument. Then Helen breaks into this song. The song begins with Helen dancing to Geetaji's lovely voice. Vyjyanthimala joins later and Asha Bhosle sings for her! A lovely song and dance is also great with them dancing in competition to each other!
HB,
It will be wonderful if you can (at your convenience) rip the video of this song and share with us. It will be a fun to watch this lovely 9 minute song.
Cheers Parag
hildebrand
Jan 23 2009, 02:16 AM
QUOTE(parag_sankla @ Jan 21 2009, 11:37 PM)
QUOTE(hildebrand @ Jan 19 2009, 11:22 AM)
QUOTE(parag_sankla @ Jan 12 2009, 09:52 AM)
Thanks HB,
so are there any more songs of Geeta ji filmed on Helen ?
Parag
I discovered one more very great and wonderful song sung by Geeta ji for Helen today. I say discovered because I saw it for the first time today having loved its melody for long.
The song is none other than Aye Haaye Dilruba from Dr. Vidya. The song is set in an old students get together in the college. Helen and Vyjyanthimala have an argument. Then Helen breaks into this song. The song begins with Helen dancing to Geetaji's lovely voice. Vyjyanthimala joins later and Asha Bhosle sings for her! A lovely song and dance is also great with them dancing in competition to each other!
HB,
It will be wonderful if you can (at your convenience) rip the video of this song and share with us. It will be a fun to watch this lovely 9 minute song.
Cheers Parag
I have not done much of video editing before. I will try to do it after searching for software and procedures for it.
parag_sankla
Jan 23 2009, 05:42 AM
Will be looking forward to it HB.
Take your time, no worries..
Cheers Parag
hildebrand
Jan 31 2009, 06:53 AM
Thanks to forum members Erum ji, FP and Mahesh ji we have got information about a hindi song in a bengali film picturised on Helen and sung by Geeta ji. Details as available are as follows:- 1959-gali theke rajpath-tere liye laya-md-sudhin dasgupta;ly-?
Saw a movie today which I've been wanting to see for a long time due to its lovely Geeta songs. Found two of them to be picturised on Helen. Any guess, which is the movie? Find out in the updated list below:-
1. Mera naam chin chin choo - Howrah Bridge 2. Dil se dil takarayein - Love Marriage 3. Bechain dil khoyi si nazar- Yahudi 4. Kahan Phir Hum Kahan - Night Club Club 5. Maara Re Maara - Aab-e-hayat 6. Oonchi edhi walon ne - Bedard Zamana Kya Jaane 7. Arey Tauba Yeh Teri Ada - 12 O Clock 8. Aaye Haaye Dilruba - Dr Vidya 9. Tere Liye Aaya Hai Le Ke Koi Dil - Gali Theke Rajpath (Bengali movie) 10. Ja Raha Hai Kyun Deewane - Passport 11. Tauba Tauba Tauba O Tauba Meri Maan - Passport 12. Majnu Ke Chhilke - O Tera Kya Kehna
As you would've guessed from the additions the movie is Passport. (The third Geeta song in the movie Nazar Ka Jhuk Jana is on another dancer. Can somebody guess who it is? My guess is its Lillian. ) I vaguely recall seeing Nau Do Gyarah years back in which helen had a song (probably her first proper dance song). Can somebody confirm that its Helen for whom Geeta ji sang in the song Kya Ho Jo Din Rangeela Ho?
parag_sankla
Feb 10 2009, 10:54 PM
QUOTE(hildebrand @ Feb 10 2009, 07:54 AM)
I vaguely recall seeing Nau Do Gyarah years back in which helen had a song (probably her first proper dance song). Can somebody confirm that its Helen for whom Geeta ji sang in the song Kya Ho Jo Din Rangeela Ho?
Yes, thats a good list. Infact, I had directly searched youtube already for the song. Due to some net issue youtube doesn't open very well for me (funny college net again?). So I generally download the songs. Was downloading it when your reply came! I should have guessed the answer before download itself since her other song See Le Zubaan was known to be picturised on Shashikala. (Thats an interesting Geeta song which forms most of the climax!).
Oh yes, that is Helen! One more song added to our list!
Cheers Parag
hildebrand
Feb 13 2009, 01:25 AM
Updated the list. We now have 12 songs. They're no less in quality as compared to songs sung for helen by other singers. Hope members will find others as well.
parag_sankla
Feb 24 2009, 11:34 AM
QUOTE(hildebrand @ Feb 12 2009, 11:55 AM)
Updated the list. We now have 12 songs. They're no less in quality as compared to songs sung for helen by other singers. Hope members will find others as well.
Many thanks HB for maintaining and updating the list. I never imagined that Geeta ji would have sung 12 songs (may be even more) songs for Helen. Great job. Keep it up.
Cheers Parag
hildebrand
Feb 24 2009, 03:17 PM
You're most welcome Parag
parag_sankla
Mar 8 2009, 09:02 PM
QUOTE(hildebrand @ Feb 10 2009, 08:54 AM)
1. Mera naam chin chin choo - Howrah Bridge 2. Dil se dil takarayein - Love Marriage 3. Bechain dil khoyi si nazar- Yahudi 4. Kahan Phir Hum Kahan - Night Club Club 5. Maara Re Maara - Aab-e-hayat 6. Oonchi edhi walon ne - Bedard Zamana Kya Jaane 7. Arey Tauba Yeh Teri Ada - 12 O Clock 8. Aaye Haaye Dilruba - Dr Vidya 9. Tere Liye Aaya Hai Le Ke Koi Dil - Gali Theke Rajpath (Bengali movie) 10. Ja Raha Hai Kyun Deewane - Passport 11. Tauba Tauba Tauba O Tauba Meri Maan - Passport 12. Majnu Ke Chhilke - O Tera Kya Kehna
Myth : Only Asha Bhonsle sang great songs for the dancing diva Helen.
Fact : Geeta Dutt has sung not as many in number, but some really nice songs for Helen. One of the most popular song filmed on Helen (Mera naam chin chin choo) is sung by Geeta ji
Another myth-buster!
Thanks HB for this list!
Cheers Parag
smahesh
Mar 8 2009, 10:10 PM
i think songs from mr. india[1961] were also picturised on helen[dekha na jaye,mein machis ki teeli]
regards, mahesh
hildebrand
Mar 9 2009, 12:59 AM
Thanks for pointing out that mahesh ji! Dekha Na Jaaye video is there on youtube and its definitely Helen there! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mud2sHNHFLQ ) Other song video isn't there however. That must be a really patakha video as well. It appears that Geeta ji was preferred voice for Helen till around 1961. It would be interesting to see how many songs Asha sang in the same period. Its of course well known that Helen's first hit which made her career was Mera Naam Chin Chin Choo and would be a reason for the preferred choice.
Updated list is as follows:-
1. Mera naam chin chin choo - Howrah Bridge 2. Dil se dil takarayein - Love Marriage 3. Bechain dil khoyi si nazar- Yahudi 4. Kahan Phir Hum Kahan - Night Club Club 5. Maara Re Maara - Aab-e-hayat 6. Oonchi edhi walon ne - Bedard Zamana Kya Jaane 7. Arey Tauba Yeh Teri Ada - 12 O Clock 8. Aaye Haaye Dilruba - Dr Vidya 9. Tere Liye Aaya Hai Le Ke Koi Dil - Gali Theke Rajpath (Bengali movie) 10. Ja Raha Hai Kyun Deewane - Passport 11. Tauba Tauba Tauba O Tauba Meri Maan - Passport 12. Majnu Ke Chhilke - O Tera Kya Kehna 13. Dekha Na Jaaye Socha Na Jaaye - Mr India 14. Main Machis Ki Teeli - Mr India
parag_sankla
Mar 9 2009, 01:14 AM
QUOTE(hildebrand @ Mar 8 2009, 12:29 PM)
It appears that Geeta ji was preferred voice for Helen till around 1961. It would be interesting to see how many songs Asha sang in the same period.
Good observation HB. Also another fact needs to be noted here. Helen was not on the scene when Geeta ji was in her real prime (1947-1951).
Parag
hildebrand
Mar 9 2009, 01:26 AM
If one asks me her prime lasts till 1958.
parag_sankla
Mar 9 2009, 01:37 AM
Oops..I meant to say "Helen was not on the scene during the subset of years 1947-1951 of real prime of Geeta ji's career."
Parag
parag_sankla
Mar 9 2009, 01:42 AM
BTW, IMDB reports Aawaara (1951) as Helen's first film as chorus dancer (uncredited).
Parag
hildebrand
Mar 9 2009, 01:57 AM
According to Helen's biography on wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Richardson) Cukoo helped her get the chorus dancer jobs in Shabistan and Awara. It would be interesting to see how many songs Geeta ji sang for Cukoo (other than Neele Asmaani). As you may be knowing Shamshad Begum was the voice associated with Cukoo.
parag_sankla
Mar 9 2009, 09:16 AM
A "possible" list of films for which Geeta ji could have sung for Cuckoo
Mr and Mrs 55 we know the song. Senior members can tell about the others if she indeed sang for Cukoo.
hildebrand
Mar 21 2009, 01:23 AM
QUOTE(parag_sankla @ Jan 21 2009, 11:37 PM)
HB,
It will be wonderful if you can (at your convenience) rip the video of this song and share with us. It will be a fun to watch this lovely 9 minute song.
Cheers Parag
Uploading it with the relevant scene of their fight (Helen and Vyjanthimala) for perspective. This song is set up as a competition between the two to see who dances better. Its as much a competition of their dance skills as it is for the singing skills of the two singers. Both come up in flying colours although due to film reasons one has to be shown to lose but it is quite lamely done at the end.
Enjoy!
Aaye Haaye Dilruba Video Dr Vidya (1962) 10:18 352x288 MPG format
It will be wonderful if you can (at your convenience) rip the video of this song and share with us. It will be a fun to watch this lovely 9 minute song.
Cheers Parag
Uploading it with the relevant scene of their fight (Helen and Vyjanthimala) for perspective. This song is set up as a competition between the two to see who dances better. Its as much a competition of their dance skills as it is for the singing skills of the two singers. Both come up in flying colours although due to film reasons one has to be shown to lose but it is quite lamely done at the end. Enjoy!
Aaye Haaye Dilruba Video Dr Vidya (1962) 10:18 352x288 MPG format
Very truely said HB. The heroine has to be shown as a winner, so without giving any logical reason/explanation VM is shown as the winner!
Thanks for the video once again. Thoroughly enjoyed!
Cheers Parag
hildebrand
Mar 23 2009, 10:56 PM
Glad you liked the video Parag. Logical explanation is there - she is heroine and they have to show that the traditional heroine is better than the 'modern' friend of hers! I think they call this bollywood stereotype!
Are you sure that's helen in Kangan?! I know the credit says so on youtube. The stylist/makeupman has tried to show her as the village belle with mixed effects.
parag_sankla
Mar 23 2009, 11:16 PM
I do think its Helen in the song from Kangan. Even IMDB site says the same
Glad you liked the video Parag. Logical explanation is there - she is heroine and they have to show that the traditional heroine is better than the 'modern' friend of hers! I think they call this bollywood stereotype!
Are you sure that's helen in Kangan?! I know the credit says so on youtube. The stylist/makeupman has tried to show her as the village belle with mixed effects.
IMHO the makeupman has done a decent job. She looks different than her typical club dancer looks.
Cheers Parag
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