Film : Anokha Pyar
Year : 1948
Music Director : Anil Biswas
Format : mp3
Bit Rate : 160 kbps

Details of the songs are as given below:
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Sachin, thanks for bringing up this treasure trove of an album. Had Anil Biswas done just two movies - this one and 'Tarana' - he would still have had a secure spot in film music heaven forever; in reality, of course, these two are among the many, many gorgeous soundtracks this musical wizard has given us.

A unique feature of this film is the sheer number of "tandem" songs - there are at least 4 songs sung separately by two or more singers! I understand this was done because Lata Mangeshkar wasn't available for the film recordings; she has sung the songs on the 78 rpm releases. (Or was it vice versa? Either way, we win: we get to hear these great songs sung by different singers!)

Ira Nagrath (wife of Roshan, mother of Rakesh and Rajesh Roshan, and grandmother of Hrithik Roshan) passed away recently. [Nagrath is the family name - Roshan was actually Roshanlal Nagrath; the family took to calling themselves Roshan after he became famous under that name.]

Am adding one more song from "Anokha Pyar" that is missing from your list: "bholaa bhaalaa rii moraa balamaa na jaane" sung by Lata (2:45 min, 128 kbs mp3).

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Warm regards,
Abhay

Thank You for all the informtion & the missing song Abhay -

Sachin, I am afraid all the songs where you have mentioned "Ira Nagrath" as the singer actually feature Meena Kapoor. There *is* a version of "ai dil merii wafaa me.n" that is sung by Lata and Ira N (I understand from a friend that that is the 78 rpm version) but the one you have posted here is clearly by Lata and Meena K.

For the other songs, I don't think there is any Ira N version - the tandem versions are by Lata and Meena K.

I am trying to get hold of the Lata-Ira N version of "ai dil merii wafaa me.n" - will post it here as soon as I succeed in getting it.

Warm regards,
Abhay

You may be correct - Abhay...
I am a novice in this music world and might have been fooled by the tags... hence I always relay on expert friends of HF.

However - accidentally though - I found this post on HF - which is kind of an explanation to all these confusions....:
http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?show...mp;#entry214764

Specially Balaji's comments "But as Meena fell ill in between they were sung by Ira Nagarth who had a very similar voice." in the post may be an answer to your question.

Any way's as always - I take the words of HF Experts as final - so please let me know if you find something on this.

Thank You

Have yet another post from Faizel Sahab:
http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?show...mp;#entry448780

Sachin, the discussion on that link is saying exactly what I said: that the CD has the LM-MK version of the duet but has mistakenly attributed it to LM-IN!

The only change is that Lata came in for the 78 rpm versions as Meena K was not available and not that Meena K came in because Lata wasn't available. Either way, as I said, we should be grateful we have two great versions of so many great songs!

Warm regards,
Abhay

Also - the above mentioned post of Faizel Sahab mentions the below verion which I am missing:

Anokha Pyar-Ek Dil Ka Lagaana (Part 2)-Meena Kapoor

Can someone please upload the song.

Thank You

Ya.. music is music either it's Lata Ji / Meena Ji / Ira Ji...
But - it is so unprofessional of HMV for giving misleading credentials..

Thank You Abhay

I have long ago given up on HMV. Mislabelled songs are nothing new for them. One needs to trust one's ears - and those whom one believes have more sensitive ears. Mercifully, I have a lot of such friends both here on HF and on RMIM!

Warm regards,
Abhay

I am responding here to Sachin's post on the other thread at http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?s=&a...st&p=542019 :

A friend has sent me the actual LM-IN version of the duet. I will upload it tomorrow on this thread. He had only a low-res version (just 32 kbps): I understand it is against HF norms to upload low-res versions, but I am hoping our Admin friends will allow this exception in order to set the singers' record straight.

I will also post another surprise - one that will add to the confusion!

May I also request that all discussions regarding "Anokha Pyar" be carried out on this thread? It is confusing to have two threads at the same time on the same subject!

Warm regards,
Abhay

Sachin u have shared really very rare collection, i was also searching for this movie s songs but was unable to find all songs.

here today i have seen most of the songs of the movie are here.


thnx for the great work dude

Abhay, sorry for my intrusion, but in such a cases, it is advised to post the song on a file sharing site (ex: Rapidshare) and give a link here.

That is what the rules say! I know you are a senior member, much senior than me, but this is what I wanted to share.

Thanks and Best Regards
Parag

Thanks for clarifying this, Parag. While I have been on HF for a long time, I have (sadly for myself) been a fairly erratic member and have not really kept up with the changing rules. Thanks for pointing this out: that is just what I will do.

Also, thanks a ton for the Meena Kapoor version of "ek dil kaa lagaanaa". Do you know it's provenance? I have never come across any mention of this song earlier.

Warm regards,
Abhay

Abhay - I will be eagerly waiting for your uploads tomorrow...

Ok, folks, here goes.

1. Thanks to a very generous (and very knowledgeable) Net friend, I have got a copy of the Lata-Ira Nagrath version of "ai dil merii wafaa me.n". Unfortunately, he only had a low-res version* which cannot be uploaded here as per the forum's rules. I have therefore uploaded it on esnips - it can be found at the following link:

http://www.esnips.com/web/aphadnis-HF

It is a downloadable file; I hope there is no trouble accessing it. Once you listen to it, you will clearly see the difference between the LM-IN and the LM-MK versions. Ira Nagrath's voice is clearly distinguishable from Meena Kapoor's; besides, the versions differ in the way the lyrics are sung (more on that below).


2. Now let's stir up this already volatile mix of multiple versions some more! The same generous soul who sent me the Ira Nagrath version also sent me yet another version of the duet, again sung by Lata Mangeshkar and Meena Kapoor! How's that for confusion? I can't figure out why Anil Biswas would have had three versions recorded of the same song! Anyway, here is the second version of the LM-MK duet (3:15 min, mp3 @ 128 kbps). It is clearly a different version: for one, the song starts in MK's voice rather than LM's; also, the lyrics differ to some extent (again, more on this below). I understand that this version appeared on the Pakistani LP release of "Anokha Pyar".

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3. To satisfy my own curiosity, I made detailed notes of the differences in lyrics across the three songs, including the distribution of the lines between the two singers in each version. Assuming that there might be some equally crazy people here, I am - in three separate posts below this - posting the lyrics exactly as sung of each of the three versions. They highlight clearly the differences across the versions.


*[If anyone can find a better, high-resolution recording of the Lata-Ira Nagrath version, please do upload it here. Please do not just reconvert from the low-res version to a higher resolution - it worsens rather than improves matters! I know most members here do not need this advice, but I have come across at least one instance of encoding a low-res recording at a higher bitrate and then putting it up here. What that does to the sound quality is - believe me - best left the imagination! ]


Warm regards,
Abhay

Hats Off Abhay !!!!

I dont have words to express....

I forgot to add that this version comes from a Pakistani LP release of the film. Have edited the post above to reflect that.

Warm regards,
Abhay

Lyrics of the 3 different versions of "ai dil merii wafaa me.n" from 'Anokha Pyar'

(I) Lata Mangeshkar and Meena Kapoor - Version 1
(Film version; the one that has been uploaded here multiple times under the wrong label. All those who have uploaded - and downloaded - this version may want to change the tags to reflect that Lata's co-singer here is Meena Kapoor and not Ira Nagrath.)

Lata:
ai dil merii wafaa me.n ko_ii asar nahii.n hai
mai.n mar rahii huu.n jin par unako Khabar nahii.n hai
ai dil merii wafaa me.n

mere dil hii me.n rahakar mujh par nazar nahii.n hai
ai dil merii wafaa me.n ko_ii asar nahii.n hai
ai dil merii wafaa me.n

Meena:
dil leke ab kahaa.N hai niinde.n churaanewaale -2
aa.Nkho.n se duur kyu.N hai dil me.n samaanewaale - 2
ko_ii mujhe bataa_e mujh ko Khabar nahii.n hai
ai dil merii wafaa me.n ko_ii asar nahii.n hai
ai dil merii wafaa me.n

Lata:
bujhate hai.n dil ke shole aa.Nkho.n me.n hai a.Ndheraa
mai.n ho gayii kisiikii (ko_ii hu_aa na meraa - 3)
jo aag idhar lagii hai vo aag udhar nahii.n hai
ai dil merii wafaa me.n ko_ii asar nahii.n hai
ai dil merii wafaa me.n

Meena:
ab yaad me.n kisiikii mar mar ke jii rahii huu.N
aa.Nsuu jo aa rahe hai.n aa.Nkho.n me.n pii rahii huu.N
ab yaad me.n kisiikii mar mar ke jii rahii huu.N

hotii hai piir dil me.n aur aa.Nkh tar nahii.n hai
ai dil merii wafaa me.n ko_ii asar nahii.n hai
ai dil merii wafaa me.n

Lyrics of the 3 different versions of "ai dil merii wafaa me.n" from 'Anokha Pyar'

(II) Lata Mangeshkar and Meena Kapoor - Version 2
(from LP record released in Pakistan)

Meena:
ai dil merii wafaa me.n ko_ii asar nahii.n hai
ai dil merii wafaa me.n

Lata:
mere dil hii me.n rahakar mujh par nazar nahii.n hai
ai dil merii wafaa me.n ko_ii asar nahii.n hai
ai dil merii wafaa me.n

Meena:
dil leke ab kahaa.N hai niinde.n churaanewaale -2
aa.Nkho.n se duur kyu.N hai dil me.n samaanewaale
ko_ii mujhe bataa_e mujh ko Khabar nahii.n hai
ai dil merii wafaa me.n ko_ii asar nahii.n hai
ai dil merii wafaa me.n

Lata:
bujhate hai.n dil ke shole aa.Nkho.n me.n hai a.Ndheraa
mai.n ho ga_ii kisiikii (ko_ii hu_aa na meraa - 3)
jo aag idhar lagii hai vo aag udhar nahii.n hai
ai dil merii wafaa me.n ko_ii asar nahii.n hai
ai dil merii wafaa me.n

Meena:
ab yaad me.n kisiikii mar mar ke jii rahii huu.N
aa.Nsuu jo aa rahe hai.n aa.Nkho.n me.n pii rahii huu.N
ab yaad me.n kisiikii mar mar ke jii rahii huu.N

hotii hai piir dil me.n aur aa.Nkh tar nahii.n hai
ai dil merii wafaa me.n ko_ii asar nahii.n hai
ai dil merii wafaa me.n

Lyrics of the 3 different versions of "ai dil merii wafaa me.n" from 'Anokha Pyar'

(III) Lata Mangeshkar and Ira Nagrath
(78 rpm record version posted as a low-res version on esnips)

Lata:
ai dil merii wafaa me.n ko_ii asar nahii.n hai
mai.n mar rahii huu.n jin par unako Khabar nahii.n hai
ai dil merii wafaa me.n

mere dil hii me.n rahakar mujh par nazar nahii.n hai
ai dil merii wafaa me.n

Ira:
dil leke ab kahaa.N hai niinde.n churaanewaale
aa.Nkho.n se duur kyu.N hai dil me.n samaanewaale
ko_ii mujhe bataa_e mujh ko Khabar nahii.n hai
ai dil merii wafaa me.n

Lata:
bujhate hai.n dil ke shole aa.Nkho.n me.n hai a.Ndheraa
mai.n ho ga_ii kisiikii (ko_ii hu_aa na meraa - 3)

jo aag idhar lagii hai vo aag udhar nahii.n hai
ai dil merii wafaa me.n

Ira:
ab yaad me.n kisiikii mar mar ke jii rahii huu.N
aa.Nsuu jo aa rahe hai.n aa.Nkho.n me.n pii rahii huu.N
ab yaad me.n kisiikii mar mar ke jii rahii huu.N

hotii hai piir dil me.n aur aa.Nkh tar nahii.n hai
ai dil merii wafaa me.n ko_ii asar nahii.n hai
ai dil merii wafaa me.n