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Nimii
Some are versions of the hindi songs.. more so coz it is a remake of the hindi movie.. while some have been blatantly copied!

Let us list or u/l songs of both versions (for comparison only.. even a clip of the antara should suffice)

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visuja
What time frame in years are you looking at Nimii ?
Accordingly I will participate biggrin.gif ya phir u'll have to bug Sri-ji wink.gif

... and strictly Tamil copy / inspirations of Hindi songs ? unsure.gif
Nimii
Any category.. Juz random !!!!!!!!!!!!

no time scale..

juz mention the original - copy (probably with details if we can get hold of it)

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visuja
If we include Rehman's numbers, we'll be dealing with remakes and re-used tunes only. And to his credit, most tunes are popular in both Hindi and Tamil versions. Do we list his songs too ?

Sri-ji could give us invaluable info about common tunes used in 50's to 70's, while you could list out almost all songs by Veda biggrin.gif
Nimii
So what.. let us work on those too!!

Frankly so much missin info on these.. mebbe we could strike more info - gold as you would put it!!!!!!!!!

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visuja
Why are you emoticonless ? unsure.gif Not one of those mood swings again ! doh.gif

There used to be a dedicated Rahman site that chronologically listed out his musical compostions and which songs were used in which films, including which version came out first. Unfortunately, the link doesnt work now sad1.gif
Nimii
To find another one!!!!!!! Dont ask me to search.. I would could crazy..

Ya I am on hartaal! No emoticons.. no spamming..

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visuja
Ailaa ! Not only is she serious.. she's in a crack the whip mode too afraid.gif
Nimii
Oye! Get back into action of wht I have asked for.. no banter!! Bahut hogaya tamasha!

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Nimii
Ok let me start off..

Solos.. would be ideal..

Eena meena deekha (KK/Asha) - Eena meena deekha (P Susheela)

Sau baar janam lenge (Rafi) - Or aayiram paarvaile.. (TMS)

now join on..
sri
one little mieow from me...and then i'll leave the rest to you....

Mieow mieow poonakutti (M S Rajeswari) - Kumudam 1961 - AVM production - Music : K V Mahadevan

Mieow mieow meri sakhi (Lata) - Pooja ke phool 1964 - AVM production - Music : Madan Mohan

Sri
Nimii
Sriji juz played this song..

Kaahe Naina Ladi (Lata Mangeshkar) - Unnai Kann theduthey.. (Jikki??)

Sriji please correct the info.

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sangeetbhakt
QUOTE(Nimii @ May 22 2006, 05:17 AM) *

Sriji juz played this song..

Kaahe Naina Ladi (Lata Mangeshkar) - Unnai Kann theduthey.. (Jikki??)

Sriji please correct the info.

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Unnai kaN theDudhe is from "Kanavane kaN kanDa deivam", sung
by P Susheela and music by Hemant Kumar.
BTW, are we uploading the songs as well, or just listing them?
Priya
Pal bhar mein yeh kya ho gaya has a Tamil version right? By S Janaki?
Nimii
SB u/l are also welcome.. Thanks in advance.. Go ahead
sangeetbhakt
QUOTE(sangeetbhakt @ May 22 2006, 09:14 AM) *

QUOTE(Nimii @ May 22 2006, 05:17 AM) *

Sriji juz played this song..

Kaahe Naina Ladi (Lata Mangeshkar) - Unnai Kann theduthey.. (Jikki??)

Sriji please correct the info.

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Unnai kaN theDudhe is from "Kanavane kaN kanDa deivam", sung
by P Susheela and music by Hemant Kumar.
BTW, are we uploading the songs as well, or just listing them?

Following up to my own post, the strange thing is that the Hindi version
of the song "Kaahe naina laDe" is from "JHamela", music by C Ramachandra.
But the Tamil version is credited to the combination of Hemant Kumar and
A Ramarao. Now who really created the original tune???
unsure.gif

Also, somebody please point me to the S Janaki version of "Pal bhar me yeh
kya ho gaya".
sri
QUOTE(sangeetbhakt @ May 22 2006, 09:44 PM) *
QUOTE(Nimii @ May 22 2006, 05:17 AM) *

Sriji juz played this song..
Kaahe Naina Ladi (Lata Mangeshkar) - Unnai Kann theduthey.. (Jikki??)
Sriji please correct the info.
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Unnai kaN theDudhe is from "Kanavane kaN kanDa deivam", sung
by P Susheela and music by Hemant Kumar.
BTW, are we uploading the songs as well, or just listing them?


music is credited variously to Adi Narayana Rao* , some other Raos and C Ramchandra himself...i think the main composer for the film (1955 - Produced by Narayanan & Co.) appears to have been Adi Narayana Rao..but CR may have been credited for the contribution of this tune (orig film Jhamela 1963...produced by Bhagwan). But, highly unlikely to be Hemant Kumar's music, in any case.......where did you get this info SB ? Unless, there's another song in the film which was contributed by HK !!

Sri

* P Susheela site
Nimii
SB I dont know what song Priya is pointing to!!!!!!
Nimii
Another interesting.. version song is Pancham composed from Poo Mazhai Pozhigirathu

Nadhiya nadhiya nile nadhiya... (SPB and Chitra).. - same tune as Aise Na mujhe tum dekho seene se lagaloongaa... (Kishore Kumar) song.

Anyone wants the song let me know.. Got it for u/l

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Nimii
QUOTE(Nimii @ May 22 2006, 12:28 PM) *
Ok let me start off..

Solos.. would be ideal..

Eena meena deekha (KK/Asha) - Eena meena deekha (P Susheela)

Sau baar janam lenge (Rafi) - Or aayiram paarvaile.. (TMS)

now join on..


Here is the tamil song!!

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Nimii

Kalyanikku Kalayanam - Song sung by PBS and P Susheela.

- Tamil version of the hindi song.. Zara saamne to aao challiye!!!!!!!!!!!

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mmuk2004
QUOTE(Nimii @ May 22 2006, 10:08 PM) *

Another interesting.. version song is Pancham composed from Poo Mazhai Pozhigirathu

Nadhiya nadhiya nile nadhiya... (SPB and Chitra).. - same tune as Aise Na mujhe tum dekho seene se lagaloongaa... (Kishore Kumar) song.

Anyone wants the song let me know.. Got it for u/l

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Please do u/d Nimz. rolleyes.gif
Nimii
Madhz lissening to tamil songs too ohmy.gif shocked.gif planet.gif

Here is the song. Poo Mazhai Pozhigirathu - with SPB and Chitra singing for Pancham!

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mmuk2004
QUOTE(Nimii @ May 25 2006, 04:44 AM) *

Madhz lissening to tamil songs too ohmy.gif shocked.gif planet.gif

Here is the song. Poo Mazhai Pozhigirathu - with SPB and Chitra singing for Pancham!

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Pancham ka sawal hai baba. smile.gif Thanks Nimz. Any way of explaining the main thrust of the song, the trasition from passionate solo to "romantic" duet is always intriguing. In the Bangla versions it is very frequent and more often than not I prefer the hindi versions...
Nimii
hahaha so to hai laugh.gif

You are welcome Madhz rolleyes.gif
mmuk2004
QUOTE(Nimii @ May 25 2006, 06:10 AM) *

hahaha so to hai laugh.gif

You are welcome Madhz rolleyes.gif



Ye kaise hua, got your answer before my question. Where is your witching wala photo... blink.gif

Was editing the post angry.gif

Let me repeat, any way of explaining the main thrust of this version? rolleyes.gif
unni
There is a Tamil version of the Rafi/Suman "APRIL FOOL" duet "Tujhe Pyar Karte Hain Karte Rahenge":

"Naan Malarodu Thaniyaaga" by TMS/Sushila in "IRU VALLAVARGAL".
Nimii
Unni enn kitte iruku indaa paatu biggrin.gif will u/l all the tamil versions as and when I find them biggrin.gif

Madhz .. Pancham scored for this movie na.. so I guess he must have decided to use this tune for this song unsure.gif Gotto go to heaven and ask only doh.gif

What witching avtar???????????????? It was always a cat na ohmy.gif

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unni
I guess this thread is about Tamil/Hindi songs with the same tune.

Not songs like "Varavu ettana selavu paththana" from "BAMA VIJAYAM" which had a Hindi version with a different tune as "Amdani athanni kharcha rupaiyya".
Nimii
Na Unni.. it is like TJI SPECIAL TANDEM TUNES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tongue1.gif

Here is Nan malarodhu thaniyaaga yen ingu vanden... (Why did I come alone with a flower laugh.gif )

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Ye lo Madhz aagayi teri witchy witch.gif

mmuk2004
QUOTE(Nimii @ May 25 2006, 06:51 AM) *

Unni enn kitte iruku indaa paatu biggrin.gif will u/l all the tamil versions as and when I find them biggrin.gif

Madhz .. Pancham scored for this movie na.. so I guess he must have decided to use this tune for this song unsure.gif Gotto go to heaven and ask only doh.gif

What witching avtar???????????????? It was always a cat na ohmy.gif

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Nimz headbang.gif

Gaane ka translation mangta brief mein...

avatar nahin woh witch wala icon on the broomstick...
Nimii
Brief kyon detail hi deti hoon laugh.gif

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Nimii
Madhz translated !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dont spank me chase.gif hahhahhaa

ye lo link

http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?s=&s...ndpost&p=258326
Nimii
Madhanoe Rathi un jodi - frim Veetukku vantha mahalaxmi .. is another version song.. of Tan dole mera mann dole .. but this one is a duet! AMRaja and P Susheela.

Not a very good quality.. but should suffice for now.. 64/44kbps

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oye_sonu
QUOTE(Nimii @ May 23 2006, 10:38 AM) *

QUOTE(Nimii @ May 22 2006, 12:28 PM) *
Ok let me start off..

Solos.. would be ideal..

Eena meena deekha (KK/Asha) - Eena meena deekha (P Susheela)

Sau baar janam lenge (Rafi) - Or aayiram paarvaile.. (TMS)

now join on..


Here is the tamil song!!

Click to view attachment

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Thanks for this song Nimmi ji . but no one has till now hinted anything abt the popularity of these inpsired songs???

what was the response of Tamil janta at tht time........any idea..?? unsure.gif

Unni ji aap kuch bata payenge??


god bles

Sonu
Nimii
Sonu, the tamil population are not critical about inspired or copied songs and enjoy them as long as they are sung well and melodious tongue1.gif
oye_sonu
nehi nehi mera matlab popularity se tha..........songs kitne popular hue thay. coz unke hindi equavts kaafi popular thay aur ab bhi hai .


Regds

Sonu


Nimii
They are still popular............. cant u see even I know them.. even tho' I dont belong to that era laugh.gif
Nimii
Found another song.. P Susheela has sung this... Original by Lata ji - Aap kyon roye...Sangeetbhakt ji do you know the words of the tamil song?????? unsure.gif I dont seem to remember the words.. except when the aap kyon roye bit comes as azhuveden kanna..

Will try and avail the tamil version and u/l the same as and when I get it.

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bawlachintu
QUOTE(Nimii @ May 23 2006, 12:47 AM) *

SB I dont know what song Priya is pointing to!!!!!!


Pal bhar mein ye kya ho gaya
Singer:Lata M
Film:Swami
Music:Rajesh Roshan

I have heard the Tamil version too.

Swami-Girish Karnad,Dhiraj Kumar & Shabana Azmi starrer movie
Nimii
Oh!!!!!!!!!! I never heard that one headbang.gif

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Nimii
Here is another of my fav..

Brindavanamum Nandakumaranum Yaavarukkum Podhuselvamandro.. (same as Brindavan ka .. from Miss Mary)

AM Raja and P Susheela (Singing for Gemini Ganesh and Savithri wub.gif )

64/44kbps

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sangeetbhakt
QUOTE(Nimii @ May 27 2006, 12:43 AM) *

Found another song.. P Susheela has sung this... Original by Lata ji - Aap kyon roye...Sangeetbhakt ji do you know the words of the tamil song?????? unsure.gif I dont seem to remember the words.. except when the aap kyon roye bit comes as azhuveden kanna..

Will try and avail the tamil version and u/l the same as and when I get it.

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"Woh kaun thhi" was made in Tamil into a film called "Yaar nee" starring
Jayalalitha and Jaishankar (who can match Manoj Kumar's vacant expressions
to the last lack of twitch). The music was by "consistently inspired" Veda.
P Susheela does an excellent job in most of the songs. She is particularly
fantastic in "Ponmeni thazhuvaamal" which is the equivalent of "Lag ja gale".

I have the Tamil version of all the songs except the one Nimmi mentioned above.
I have a not too great video recording of this one. Nimmi, the song lyrics are
"Yen vedhanayil un kaNNiranDum ennoDu azhavadheN kaNNa". I can upload
the video version if you like.

Nimii
clap1.gif SB rombo nandri!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Moonu naalah enn thalayai pichhikaren adhu enna paatunnu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now for the search!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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ravisho
I think all the songs of Woh Kaun Ti were found in Yaar Nee. (Naina Barse-Naane Varuven).

The song Shouk nazar ki bijliyan was slightly modified to Paarvai Onre Podume(not sure about the film..)

Varadaraj
Nimii
As luck would have it I managed to get the real media of the file!!!!!!! ohmy.gif

To my surprises it actually plays on my jetaudio mellow.gif

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visuja
Heres a list of the spngs from Woh Kaun Thi copied into Yaar Nee. Interestingly one song from Yaar Nee seems original, and the music is credited to a TR Papa and not Veda !
(source: MIO)

Woh Kaun Thi (1964) - Manoj kumar Sadhana - Madan Mohan - RMAK
Yaar Nee (1966) - Jayshankar Jayalalitha - Veda / TR Papa - Kannadaasan

Chhodkar Tere Pyar Ka Daaman - Lata Mahendra Kapoor (duet)
Mullil Roja Thulludhae - P Susheela (solo)

Naina Barse - Lata
Naanae Varuvein - P Susheela

Shokh Nazar Ki Bijliyaan - Asha (solo)
Paarvai Ondrae Podhumae - LR Easwari, TMS (duet)

Jo Humne Daastaan - Lata
En Vaedhanayil Un - P Susheela

Both MIO and Raaga dont list the Tamil version of Lag Jaa Gale sad1.gif
Would like to have the Tamil versions in good qly. And pls spare us seeing Jayshankar and Jayalalitha enact the song ! doh.gif I'd rather imagine Sadhana wub.gif in the Tamil version too ! biggrin.gif
Nimii
Coz it is not there Vivz.. Lag jaa gale tamil version is NOT THERE!!

Ayyo Sadhana ko line mat maar mad.gif

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visuja
Lag Jaa Gale ka Tamil version hai re, Nimoo ! smile.gif I have seen the video of the song sad.gif

SB-ji also mentioned in his post ----
QUOTE
She is particularly fantastic in "Ponmeni thazhuvaamal" which is the equivalent of "Lag ja gale".

And as for line maarofying Sadhana wub.gif, anyday better than line maarofying Amma na ! rollf.gif blab.gif
Nimii
Amma u mean jayamma ohmy.gif shocked.gif cry.gif poor thing she wasnt so bad lookin.. little short and pudgy cry.gif

Ps: Vivz I found both the numbers.. converting them to mp3.. improving the quality.. see if it is ok. Let me work on the other "lag jaa gale " one!! brb
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