QUOTE(hits @ Aug 31 2005, 03:03 PM)
QUOTE(bibhas @ Aug 31 2005, 12:53 PM)
QUOTE(hits @ Aug 31 2005, 11:13 AM)
My opinion on the question of the existence of an absolute scale is that it depends on what YOU are. If you define yourself to be the entire physical universe, sure there is an absolute frame of reference. If you are a Vivek or Hithesh, then there are 2 possibilities -
1) You know the exact boundaries of the physical universe
2) You don't.
In case 1, there can be an absolute scale, and time can be unidirectional. In case 2, not so much. Remember though, I am strictly referring to the physical domain here.
Hits
1) You know the exact boundaries of the physical universe
2) You don't.
In case 1, there can be an absolute scale, and time can be unidirectional. In case 2, not so much. Remember though, I am strictly referring to the physical domain here.
Hits
My turn to play the "'I am stupid" card.
Someone please explain what an "absolute scale" is and how it is related to the uni-directionality of Time. Also, is it being implied that time can be multidirectional in a non-absolute scale ? How so ?
Bibhas,
I'll explain what I meant in my post -
An absolute scale is just another term for an absolute frame of reference. As you will know, in expressing a "transformation" or physical movement in terms of units of dimensions, it becomes paramount to fix the position of zero. Depending on where "zero" is with respect to you, the observer, your answer may look different (although they are the same).
So, the presence of an absolute scale would solve that problem. Every entity in the physical domain will know precisely where "zero" is, and where they lie in relation to "zero". Trouble is, if you don't know the extent of the physical domain, it becomes difficult to start assigning an "absolute scale". But that's fine, because "non-absolute scales" will do the job just fine (you just need to remember that they are not absolute).
Now, as you will see, the flow of time will vary depending on how you assign the scale. This can get complicated quickly, as we are slowly digressing towards the first lecture on the Theory of Relativity! I can get into that in a different thread if you want me to.
A final point - Time can be multidirectional even on an absolute scale. One just doesn't see it happen in our physical lives.
Hithesh,
I am still confused about why one needs to know the complete extent of the physical domain in order to have an absolute frame of reference. Also confused about the flow of time in both non-absolute and absolute scales.
Bibhas