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khanjee
Hi all fellows,

will some provide me this great sond ,
i be really thankfull,
reagrds.
waiting. blab.gif
Pulkit
Well, I have the resung version of this song by Noor Jehan herself. If someone has the original version then he/she can upload it or else I'll upload the resung one smile1.gif
khanjee
sound quality should be good ,
just post the download link,
waiting,
regards.
waqas
aa lao khan g.
i am amazed that no one has already posted this one by now.
its a popular song.

very beautiful melody.
Click to view attachment
enjoy
peace
Inaam
Waqas Khanjee want this song in good sound quality --- I guess he already have this song in low bitrate tongue.gif and now you have posted it in lowest bitrate laugh.gif
Priya
Now Pulkit has got me really confused with this resung version stuff.
I am sure the one I have on cd is also a later version. Does not sound like a film version to me.
Anyway such a beautiful number. The different tones and expressions that Madam imparts. Lovely!!!! Just wish I could understand all that she is singing. cry.gif
Posting the version I have.

This song has often been uled on coolgoose. Dunno what version that is. Never knew there were 2 versions and anyway coolgoose does not let me dl. sad1.gif Now they have removed most of their songs but U could still try checking there.
waqas
QUOTE(Inaam_Nadeem @ May 18 2005, 10:38 PM)
Waqas Khanjee want this song in good sound quality --- I guess he already have this song in low bitrate tongue.gif  and now you have posted it in lowest bitrate  laugh.gif
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oops!
my bad.
waqas
QUOTE(priya @ May 19 2005, 03:12 AM)
Now Pulkit has got me really confused with this resung version stuff.
I am sure the one I have on cd is also a later version. Does not sound like a film version to me.
Anyway such a beautiful number. The different tones and expressions that Madam imparts. Lovely!!!! Just wish I could understand all that she is singing. cry.gif
Posting the version I have.

This song has often been uled on coolgoose. Dunno what version that is. Never knew there were 2 versions and anyway coolgoose does not let me dl. sad1.gif Now they have removed most of their songs but U could still try checking there.
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priya, the song goes like this

jadoo(when) holi jai (softly) laynda-ay(says) mera ( my) naan( name)
when he says my name softly ( instead of softly u can use "in a husky voice" to give it a sexy touch),
main ( I ) thaan ( on the spot ) mar jandiyan ( die ).
I die on the spot. smile1.gif

suni-a ( have heard) tu ( you) kook ( koyal's sound) meri ( mine)
you have listened to my kook.
sun (listen) kadi ( sometime) hook ( cry of pain ) way ( aray or abay as in urdu/hindi)
listen to my hook sometime.

meray naal ( with me) aayho jaya ( like this) ker (do) na (don't- no) salook( treatment) way.
don't treat me like this.
jindari ( life- jaan as in urdu hindi) malook ( weak ) way.
I am a frail soul. ( here I am using my poetic instincts smile1.gif )
aidi kut ( so strongly ) kay na phar ( grip ) meri ( my) baan ( arm)
don't hold my arm so tightly.
main thaan mar jandiyaan .
waqas
I can probably do a better job if I translate it in urdu
do u understand urdu mohterma kesuma
Priya
Thanks Waqasji. Please do translate it into Urdu. Where did khesumaji enter the picture? unsure.gif
Ummer
Hello Priya,
The film version is much sweeter, it is from early seventies I think. Black and white film. This song was picturized on Ejaz and Firdous tongue.gif

Ummer.
Pulkit
QUOTE(Ummer @ May 19 2005, 08:52 AM)
Hello Priya,
                      The film version is much sweeter, it is from early seventies I think. Black and white film. This song was picturized on Ejaz and Firdous tongue.gif

Ummer.
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tongue.gif Ummer brother, don't you know, many a times in life, ignorance is bliss, you should withhold some pieces of information tongue.gif . BTW, do you have the earlier version of this song, if yes then please upload it, I heard it on T.V. recently but my V.c.r is no more functional so couldn't record it sad1.gif
Priya
QUOTE(Ummer @ May 19 2005, 08:52 AM)
Hello Priya,
                      The film version is much sweeter, it is from early seventies I think. Black and white film. This song was picturized on Ejaz and Firdous tongue.gif

Ummer.
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GRRRRRRRR why is it that some of the best NJ songs are picturised on that creature????? abuse.gif
Do U have the song Ummer? I just love it and if U say the original is far sweeter must hear it. Please do ul it.
Billy_boy
ummer paaji dis song aint picturised on firdous..datz Naghma bopping about around ejaz
Pulkit
QUOTE(Billy_boy @ May 20 2005, 06:31 AM)
ummer paaji dis song aint picturised on firdous..datz Naghma bopping about around ejaz
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That's superb Bilal tongue.gif , now Ummer is going to have it from Priya laugh.gif
Priya
Haan where is Ummer???? abuse.gif
Giving me misinformation and hallucinations and lost sleep and shattered peace of mind!!!!!! angry2.gif
waqas
QUOTE(priya @ May 19 2005, 08:41 AM)
Thanks Waqasji. Please do translate it into Urdu. Where did khesumaji enter the picture? unsure.gif
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sorry mohterma priya sahiba, I meant priya.
Actually u two are the only women I come across in this site.
I wrote kesuma without even realizing that it was u who had complained that
u didn't understand.

any way.

jadoon holi jai laynda-ay mera naan
jab dheeray/holay say mera naam layta hay

main thaan mer janni aan.
main uther hi mer jati hoon.

hay hay.
hay hay smile1.gif

kavray ki akhaan naal, kernain sawal way(way as I told u is the equivilent of aray/ooay etc).
janay kia ankhoon say, kertay ho sawal ray.
kambdi jawani oday, dil wich poonchaal way.
kampti jawani, uskay dil main bhoonchaal/tofaan ray.
hunda bura haal.
hota bura haal.
tainu wasta e wad na aga.
my panjabi gives up here. baby.gif

mardaaan day waday choothay.
madroon kay waday jhotay.
chotha hunda piyar way.
jhota hota piyar ray.
kerkay muhabbataan, kaul jaanday haar way.
ker kay muhabbatain, zuban/ kaul jatay haar ray. ( meaning zuban say phir jana)
kee atabar,
kia aitibaar,
jadoon kaindiyaan nay mainnoon sakhiyaan.
jab kahti hain mujsay sahiliyaan.
main thaan merjandiyaan.
main uther hi mer jati hoon.

suni-ay tu kook meri.
suni hay tum nay kook meri.
sun kadi hook way.
sunoo kabhi hook ray.
meray naal aaho jaya,
meray saath is terha ka.
ker na salook way.
keroo na salook ray.
jindari malook, aidi ghoot kay na phar meri baan.
nazuk hay jaan, itni zoor say na pakroo meri bazoo.
main thaan mar jandi yaan.
i die on the spot smile1.gif .

here is the song only in urdu depending upon how she sings it in the song.tryin to b as poetic as possible. sunglasses2.gif

jab dheeray/holay say layta hay mera naam.
jab dheeray/holay say layta hay mera naam.
main uther hi mer jati hoon.
main uther hi mer jati hoon.
hay hay.
jab dheeray/holay say layta hay mera naam.
main waheen mer jati hoon
main waheen mer jati hoon.
hay hay.
jab dheeray/holay say layta hay mera naam.


janay kia ankhoon say,
kertay ho sawal ray
kampti jawani, uskay dil main bhoonchaal/tofaan ray
hota bura haal, tujhay wasta hay wad na aga.
main waheen per mer jati hoon.
main waheen mer jati hoon.
hay hay.
jab dheeray say layta hay mera naam.


madroon kay waday jhotay.
jhota hota piyar ray, jhota hota piyar ray.
ker kay muhabbataan, kaul jatay haar ray.
kia aitibar, jab kahti hain muj say sahayliyaan.
main waheen mer jati hoon.
main waheen mer jati hoon.
hay hay.
jab dheeray say layta hay mera naam.


suni hay tu nay kook meri,
sun kabhi hook ray, sun kabhi hook ray.
meray saath is terha ka, ker na salook ray.
nazuk hay jaan, itni zoor sa na pakar meri bazoo.
main waheen mer jati hoon.
main waheen mer jati hoon.
hay hay.
jab holay say layta hay mera naam.
main waheen mer jati hoon.
main waheen mer jati hoon.
hay hay.
jab dheeray say layta hay mera naam.


I am sure somebody can come up with a better traslation.
come people take this as a challenge. try ur panjabi.
waqas
by the way people, I hear this talk of two version.
the version mohterma priya has uploaded is different
from the one I have uploaded.
I think mine is from the movie. NJ sound younger.
excuse the low sound quality, but if you are too curious.
u can check out the low quality, low bit rate version, i have uploaded.

as far as which one is better, I like both equally same.

peace. bye.gif
Inaam
This song is from film "Att Kuda Da Wair" (1970). Music by Bakhshi Wazir, Lyrics by Tanvir Naqvi. It is picturized on Naghma & Habib. (not Firidous and Eijaz as Ummer guess).

I agree with Ummer, the original version is much sweeter. I have it on audio cassett. Will upload soon.

Ummer
Sorry guyz! I am human too! I make mistakes too! lol! I have seen this song like 10 years ago on PTV in the program named Sur Tasveer. I think i am mixing up the picturization with some other Ejaz Firdous song. Sorry Priya!

M.
Inaam
QUOTE(waqas @ May 20 2005, 10:25 AM)
[I am sure somebody can come up with a better traslation.
come people take this as a challenge. try ur panjabi.
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Nice try Waqas ---I am also adding my translation, trying to more close with the sence of lyrics:

jadoon holi jai laynda-ay mera naan
jab dheeray say tum mera naam laytay ho
main thaan mer janni aan.
mern wahiin mar jaati hoon.

kavray ki akhaan naal, kernain sawal way
janay ankhoon say tum kya sawal kartay ho
kambdi jawani onday, dil wich poonchaal way
mera badan kaanp uthta hai aur dil mein bonchaal aa jaatay hain
hunda bura haal
mera bura haal ho jaata hai.
tainu wasta e wad na aga.
khuda ke liyey aagay na badho

mardaaan day waday jhoothay...
madroon kay waday jhotay hotay hain..
jhotha hunda piyar way.
ukna pyaar bhi jhoota hota hai...
kerkay muhabbataan, qaul jaanday haar way.
muhabbat kar ke, zuban say phir jaatay hain.
kee atabar...
unka kya aitbaar karna..
jadoon kaindiyaan nay mainnoon sakhiyaan.
jab mujh se ye baat meri sakhiyaan kehti hain tou....
main thaan merjandiyaan.
mein wahiin mar jaati hoon

suni-ay tu kook meri...
tum ne meri hansti gaati aawaz tou suni hai..
sun kadi hook way...
kabhi meri dukh bhari sada bhi suno
meray naal eho jeya, ker na sulook way...
meray saath aisa zaalimana sulook mat karo
jindari malook, aidi ghut kay na phar meri baanh...
meri jaan naazuk hai, itni zoor say meri kalaai mat thaamo..
main thaan mar jandi yaan.
Mein wahiin mar jaati hoon
Priya
QUOTE(Ummer @ May 20 2005, 12:21 PM)
Sorry guyz! I am human too! I make mistakes too! lol! I have seen this song like 10 years ago on PTV in the program named Sur Tasveer. I think i am mixing up the picturization with some other Ejaz Firdous song. Sorry Priya!

M.
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Who is M??????? unsure.gif
Hey I was joking Ummer--U know that--much tho I hate Firdous. tongue.gif
Priya
Thanks Waqasji and Inaam for the translations!!!! clap1.gif So wonderful to be able to understand the song fully now.
Inaam U make a translation so poetic!!! Hats off shayar saab!!!! bow.gif
Inaam
QUOTE(priya @ May 20 2005, 03:32 PM)
Who is M???????  unsure.gif
Hey I was joking Ummer--U know that--much tho I hate Firdous.  tongue.gif
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O this is news to me Priya! Well I don’t hate Firdouse. She was very pretty and wink2.gif you know what I mean?
BTW What do you think about Eijaz? I am not aware ke tum ne uski koi film dekhi hai ya nahiin but for your information, he was an extremely handsome actor of Pak film industry. I recently saw a movie of him and noticed that he was a good actor too.
I have a very interesting article about the love story of Madam & Eijaz. The article was written by a close friend of Eijaz. He mentioned Eijaz was a very shy and seedha saada type of person. Madam usko dekhtay hi fida ho gaein kyonke He was very good-looking and charming.
Priya
QUOTE(Inaam_Nadeem @ May 20 2005, 05:32 PM)
O this is news to me Priya! Well I don’t hate Firdouse. She was very pretty and  wink2.gif  you know what I mean?
BTW What do you think about Eijaz? I am not aware ke tum ne uski koi film dekhi hai ya nahiin but for your information, he was an extremely handsome actor of Pak film industry. I recently saw a movie of him and noticed that he was a good actor too.
I have a very interesting article about the love story of Madam & Eijaz. The article was written by a close friend of Eijaz. He mentioned Eijaz was a very shy and seedha saada type of person. Madam usko dekhtay hi fida ho gaein kyonke He was very good-looking and charming.
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Ya I know what U mean!!! wink2.gif Sure none of the guys hate Firdous. abuse.gif
I have only seen pictures of Ejaz. Anyway he was a fool to leave Madam for some two timing female. sad1.gif
Post the article na?
Inaam
QUOTE(priya @ May 20 2005, 07:14 PM)
Ya I know what U mean!!!  wink2.gif  Sure none of the guys hate Firdous.  abuse.gif
I have only seen pictures of Ejaz. Anyway he was a fool to leave Madam for some two timing female. sad1.gif
Post the article na?
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Uff my poor English -- Priya ab ye bhi batao ke what do you mean by "some two timing female". Must be a gaali. blab.gif isn't it?
Priya
Waise bhi Firdous ek akeli naari hai jiske liye mere muh se hamesha gaali hi nikalte hain to hairani ki koi baat nahi--tumne sahi socha. Par uske baare mein yeh sach hai. A two-timer is one who has relations with 2-3 people at the same time!!!!! Even when Ejaz was lattu abt her she was involved with others.
But U stupid guys look at her figure and forget everything else--including Madam!!!!
Inaam
Are bhaaiyo hum sabko Stupid bolti hai ye ladki blab.gif Ok I am going to start a thread about Eijaz & Firdous Love story --- Moderator Ji Ijaazat hai?

Priya
QUOTE(Inaam_Nadeem @ May 21 2005, 12:51 AM)
Are bhaaiyo hum sabko Stupid bolti hai ye ladki  blab.gif  Ok I am going to start a thread about Eijaz & Firdous Love story --- Moderator Ji Ijaazat hai?
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I rest my case!!!! When the greatest Madam fan forgets abt Madam and says Firdous is ______ wink2.gif baki sab ka kya kahoon??? cry.gif
Koshish karke dekho Inaam--a thread on Firdous on Madam's forum!!!! Tauba tauba aisi tauheen!!!!! Ek ek ko nikal doongi yahan se. angry2.gif
Ummer
QUOTE
A two-timer is one who has relations with 2-3 people at the same time!!!!!


You forgot Ajmal! tongue.gif
Ummer
QUOTE
Who is M??????? 
Hey I was joking Ummer--U know that--much tho I hate Firdous


I was joking too! :>

U.
Inaam
QUOTE(priya @ May 21 2005, 01:13 AM)
I rest my case!!!! When the greatest Madam fan forgets abt Madam and says Firdous is ______  wink2.gif  baki sab ka kya kahoon??? cry.gif
Koshish karke dekho Inaam--a thread on Firdous on Madam's forum!!!! Tauba tauba aisi tauheen!!!!!  Ek ek ko nikal doongi yahan se.  angry2.gif
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Ummer, Pulkit, Jamal, Bilal, Waqas Help Help Help --- Ye Jhaansi ki Raani tou ladne marne par tayyar hai ohmy.gif

Priya
QUOTE
You forgot Ajmal! 


Who is that???? blab.gif
U guys have all done research on Firdous?????
Ummer
QUOTE
QUOTE(priya @ May 20 2005, 02:55 PM)

Who is that???? blab.gif
U guys have all done research on Firdous?????
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Sorry it was Akmal who was Firdous first lover biggrin.gif. I was reading in some magazine that there were rumors that Akmal was killed by Firdous family members. Akmal was very famous hero of punjabi films, both Akmal and Firdous made very sucessful pair before his untimely death.

U.
Priya
QUOTE(Inaam_Nadeem @ May 21 2005, 01:25 AM)
Ummer, Pulkit, Jamal, Bilal, Waqas Help Help Help --- Ye Jhaansi ki Raani tou ladne marne par tayyar hai  ohmy.gif
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Sahi pehchaana Inaam. Firdous ko to nahi maar sakti na to kam se kam uske fans ko to maar doon.
Waise bhi sabhi jaante hain main apne saath chaku wagaira rakhti hoon--lagta hai yahi par istamaal karna padega. ph34r.gif
Inaam
QUOTE(Ummer @ May 21 2005, 01:29 AM)
QUOTE
QUOTE(priya @ May 20 2005, 02:55 PM)

Who is that???? blab.gif
U guys have all done research on Firdous?????
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Sorry it was Akmal who was Firdous first lover biggrin.gif. I was reading in some magazine that there were rumors that Akmal was killed by Firdous family members. Akmal was very famous hero of punjabi films, both Akmal and Firdous made very sucessful pair before his untimely death.

U.
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And I remember --- She was also involved with ‘Shahid’ when she was palying the role of his mother in film ‘Aansu’

Priya
I presume Firdous is still alive? Where is she these days? I hope someone distributes sweets when SHE dies abuse.gif
Ummer
QUOTE
QUOTE(priya @ May 20 2005, 03:03 PM)

I presume Firdous is still alive? Where is she these days? I hope someone distributes sweets when SHE dies abuse.gif
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I think she is still alive and well. She lives in Lahore. However, i am not sure if she was ever married (besides Ejaz ofocurse) tongue.gif

U.
Inaam
QUOTE(Ummer @ May 21 2005, 01:36 AM)
QUOTE
QUOTE(priya @ May 20 2005, 03:03 PM)

I presume Firdous is still alive? Where is she these days? I hope someone distributes sweets when SHE dies abuse.gif
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I think she is still alive and well. She lives in Lahore. However, i am not sure if she was ever married (besides Ejaz ofocurse) tongue.gif

U.
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Firdous is alive --- She acted in some films in late 80s/early 90s as a character actress, I think she retired from the show business. Firdou’s son was married with Nisho’s daughter.
Priya
Who is Nisho???? unsure.gif
Priya
Look at the topic title and the character who has hijacked it. True, Madam would sing main thaan mar jaani aan. cry.gif
Inaam
Ok – Some more facts about Firdous. (Priya will kill me tongue.gif )
In the beginning of her carrier, She was a flop actress, her climb to fame began when a song of Madam Noor Jehan picturized on her. Film was ‘Malangi’, The song “Maahi ve saanu bhil na jaavein” was a instant hit, and Firdous became a famous actress. It was the only song sung by Madam in “Malangi”.

She married actor Akmal and owned 'Firdous market' near Gulberg, Lahore. In times due course, Firdous withdraw her favour and took divorce from Akmal and married filmmaker, sheikh Nazeer Husain. Akmal could not endure the tragic separation and died a little later in 1967.

It is also said that she was a drunkard. Once she caught by the police in objectionable condition with Shahid in a graveyard of Lahore. They both were dead drunk.

(I hope Priya grow very happy to read these disclosures rollf.gif ).

PS: Nisho was a top heroin of Urdu films in 70s.
Pulkit
I never imagined that this thread is going to take such twists and turns. Anyhow, since the issue has become so crucial that each member must spell out his/her loyalities, here I'm. I'm obviously a die-hard Noor Jehan fan and admire and respect her both as a singer and as a human being. And I also liked Firdaus's performance in Heer Ranjha, she indeed gave a great performance. However, guys, lets have a human rather than superhuman outlook and move beyond dichotomies of saints vs. sinners. I guess that each human being has good and bad points, even seers and sages could not always resist passion, and Firdaus did not have a good background as such, so in sinning she was also being human. Secondly, in triangulated relationships, all three parties are responsible to some extent- thus, I don't understand that how can we go about blaming Firdaus without blaming Ejaz. With due respect to Noorjehan, I believe that she was also a human being and must have had her own set of weak points which could have had a role to play in the breaking up of her marriage. However, that does not mean that we should stop liking Noor Jehan- we obviously are thankful to her for so many wonderful songs that are a crucial part of our life, but lets give her a break too- let her be a great human being and not a great goddess.
Inaam
Well Said Pulkit.


Priya
GRRRR all the guys are for Firdous!!!! doh.gif
Pulkit!!!! Yeh kya lambi pyschologcal analysis of the situation di hai!!!!
I am not villifying Firdous (do not need to do that blab.gif) or deifying Madam!!! People's personal lives are their own and I am leat concerned with that!!!! Haan someone hurting Madam and celebrating her death does affect me and I have no problems admitting that!!!! abuse.gif
And naturally the lady's figure has no impact on me laugh.gif
Ummer
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Firdous is alive --- She acted in some films in late 80s/early 90s as a character actress, I think she retired from the show business. Firdou’s son was married with Nisho’s daughter.


Are you sure about that? Nisho's daughter Sahiba (heroine of the 90s) is married to Afzal (The John Rambo guy wink2.gif ), side hero of Pakistani films. I dont think he is Firdous son. Unless ofocurse Nisho had some other daughter ...

U.
khanjee
Hi all,
a lot of discussion,
any how thanks for all those fellows , how really help me for downloading this great song , and also provicde me some best quality also,

with a lot of thanks,
regards.
Inaam
QUOTE(Ummer @ May 22 2005, 08:42 AM)
QUOTE
Firdous is alive --- She acted in some films in late 80s/early 90s as a character actress, I think she retired from the show business. Firdou’s son was married with Nisho’s daughter.


Are you sure about that? Nisho's daughter Sahiba (heroine of the 90s) is married to Afzal (The John Rambo guy wink2.gif ), side hero of Pakistani films. I dont think he is Firdous son. Unless ofocurse Nisho had some other daughter ...

U.
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I know Sahiba was married with Afzal Rambo --- I guess this is other daughter of Nisho but I am not sure about it. My source was an article about Firdous I found on net (I can post Agar Priya Ijaazat de tou tongue.gif ). I have one more detailed article about Firdous (in Urdu), the author mentioned about the marriege of Firdous's son with Nisho's daughter.

Wallaah ul ilm bissawaab

Billy_boy
....wat ???...firdous had children?..nowayy...i aint buying that 1..i never new dat eunuchs cud have kiddies wacko.gif ....ahh well....u learn sumthing new everyday...
Priya
QUOTE(Inaam_Nadeem @ May 22 2005, 12:05 PM)
I know Sahiba was married with Afzal Rambo --- I guess this is other daughter of Nisho but I am not sure about it. My source was an article about Firdous I found on net (I can post Agar Priya Ijaazat de tou  tongue.gif  ). I have one more detailed article about Firdous (in Urdu), the author mentioned about the marriege of Firdous's son with Nisho's daughter.

Wallaah ul ilm bissawaab
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Go ahead and post the article Inaam. But before U think of translating the Urdu article, do all the pending Madam ones!!!!! angry2.gif

What does wallah ul ilm bissawaab mean??? unsure.gif
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