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OMkar
Hello Friends,

I am fairly new member of Hamaraforums (HF). But ever since I joined HF, I always found the name of this forum somehow unsuitable for the members who are uploading their version songs. I have recorded few songs in the professional recording studio couple of years back and I sincerely feel that my songs are definitely not as good as the original one. But at the same time, they are very much in Sur. Without Sur and Taal, I dont really think the song can be recorded properly especially in the professioanl studios.

My sincere opinion is to change the name of this Forum from 'Sur Mein Na Sahi' to, may be something like

HF Ki Mehfil
HF Sangeet-Manch
Hamare member-Gayak
Sureela HF
Sur Ke Sath HF
HF ke Sur-Taal
Sangeet/ Gayaki Ke Deewane

If anyone has any other name in mind, please do suggest!

Guys, even if you do not agree with me, please say it out. Lets see how many feel exactly the same like me.

I am expecting opinions of many valuable members such as Anwar Fan, King Rafi, Sanjkash, Dhananjay, HumTum, eskayes, King Kishore, Marcilo, Dubloo, Paresh Pai, Shabbitkumar786, ravikumarfromindia, Deewani, Madhavi, GURUFAN, Azad, etc and many others whom I missed to mention here.
sanjkash
QUOTE(OMkar @ Oct 2 2007, 02:28 PM) *


OMkar Bhau and HF Members,
I applaud your initiative in this matter, as I feel strongly as well that the name is unfair (to the artists). The name goes just unnoticed, doesn't attrach anybody's attention. All this may leave the amature HF artists demotivated/shy/scared/unstaisfied and may just block their progress/learing/sharing.
Let's not forget these are OUR ARTISTS (OUR OWN HF ARTISTS) who are willing (making efforts) to entertain OUR HF MEMBERS. If we are not the ones to make sure that the NAME is suitable, promotions and encouragements for the HF artists are there, then who else should/would do that. We want to get it right, we want to get it growing, we want HF Artists to come forward and show their skills and finally we want HF memebrs to get a treat/entertainment from the artists. All in all FUN for everyone.
I just make a small combinations from your suggestions "HF Ke Surile Artists" or even propose a very obvious one "Karaoke Mehfil". Hope there is a positive mood in getting this right.
Thanks.
Sanjay
Anwar_Fan
QUOTE(sanjkash @ Oct 2 2007, 05:28 PM) *

QUOTE(OMkar @ Oct 2 2007, 02:28 PM) *


OMkar Bhau and HF Members,
I applaud your initiative in this matter, as I feel strongly as well that the name is unfair (to the artists). The name goes just unnoticed, doesn't attrach anybody's attention. All this may leave the amature HF artists demotivated/shy/scared/unstaisfied and may just block their progress/learing/sharing.
Let's not forget these are OUR ARTISTS (OUR OWN HF ARTISTS) who are willing (making efforts) to entertain OUR HF MEMBERS. If we are not the ones to make sure that the NAME is suitable, promotions and encouragements for the HF artists are there, then who else should/would do that. We want to get it right, we want to get it growing, we want HF Artists to come forward and show their skills and finally we want HF memebrs to get a treat/entertainment from the artists. All in all FUN for everyone.
I just make a small combinations from your suggestions "HF Ke Surile Artists" or even propose a very obvious one "Karaoke Mehfil". Hope there is a positive mood in getting this right.
Thanks.
Sanjay


Yeah! I totally agree with Omkar and Sanjkash, The current title is not the best to promote this dying thread. We want lots of people to upload their music here and entertain the rest of us Music LOVERS. There’s absolutely no way that any professional or a decent singer with an iota of self esteem would consider U/Ling anything under the present title. Karaoke singing is as Sanjkash Bhai says “FUN FOR ALL” and FOR ALL TO PARTICIPATE.

“HF KO SANGEET SE ROSHAN KAREIN”. I’ve experienced that this is also one aspect and beauty of music, in that, it unites people who otherwise probably would never meet due to personal music preferences.

All above titles are ACE, my contribution to title "Sangeet Karaoke Ki Mehfil" biggrin.gif

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AzgarKhan
The newbies of this forum barely understands what the title means.
Hence I am in favor of changing the title.

It should be something like:

1) HF - Sa Re Ga Ma Pa
2) Hamare Singers
3) HF Singing Celebrities

etc etc
OMkar
QUOTE(AzgarKhan @ Oct 3 2007, 11:02 PM) *
The newbies of this forum barely understands what the title means.
Hence I am in favor of changing the title.

It should be something like:

1) HF - Sa Re Ga Ma Pa
2) Hamare Singers
3) HF Singing Celebrities

etc etc

Cooooooollll names!!! Azgarbhai, Sanjay and Anwarda, thanks a lot for your supportive comments. I am glad to see that all of you feel the same like me...

Come on guys, we need to sort this thing out for all of us... We all share tremendous music with each other, lets make this place as we want it to be... We are here for all of us... rolleyes.gif
IDOL
When i upload songs in my voice, i am soooooooo much ok with Sur main NAA sahi.............in case i am out of sur for being not professional yet, i can hide myself behind the title tongue1.gif no change pleej

OMkar
QUOTE(IDOL @ Oct 4 2007, 01:54 AM) *
When i upload songs in my voice, i am soooooooo much ok with Sur main NAA sahi.............in case i am out of sur for being not professional yet, i can hide myself behind the title tongue1.gif no change pleej


IDOLji, I remember some people saying that THE GREAT LEGEND AMIT KUMAR used to be Besura in the beginning of his career. Ofc, I dont believe that, but anyone can any anything... KUCHH TO LOG KAHENGE, LOGON KA KAAM HAIN KEHNA... Bhool gaye kya??? Do you really think the current name is inspiring? Do we not need our forum to lot more inspiring and encouraging? I sincerely feel so... rolleyes.gif
kcp
HamareSingers sounds fine to me

HumTum
QUOTE(IDOL @ Oct 4 2007, 01:54 AM) *
When i upload songs in my voice, i am soooooooo much ok with Sur main NAA sahi.............in case i am out of sur for being not professional yet, i can hide myself behind the title tongue1.gif no change pleej



laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif Sis you are so funny. But what you say is true --- that would be case with me too. wink.gif

Bhaag HT before Omkarbhai slams you. bye-bye.gif
King Rafi
Thanks OMkar for initiating this discussion! I am 100% with you, and sometimes feel uncomfortable to post my songs here [i am generally in Sur though generally out of taal smile1.gif]

My suggestion for the title: HamaraForum Idols
GURUFAN
Yes, Om I agree with you that it is uninspiring to people who have sur and taal etc. Therefore We must move over to something which is sort of non- controversial, something like Mehfil or anyone of the other suggested names. And for people like me and HT we must open another sub-forum called "Besur mein hi sahi.." he he he... sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif
GURUFAN
Yes, Om I agree with you that it is uninspiring to people who have sur and taal etc. Therefore We must move over to something which is sort of non- controversial, something like Mehfil or anyone of the other suggested names. And for people like me and HT we must open another sub-forum called "Besur mein hi sahi.." ... sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif
OMkar
QUOTE(GURUFAN @ Oct 4 2007, 09:41 PM) *
Yes, Om I agree with you that it is uninspiring to people who have sur and taal etc. Therefore We must move over to something which is sort of non- controversial, something like Mehfil or anyone of the other suggested names. And for people like me and HT we must open another sub-forum called "Besur mein hi sahi.." ... sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif That was good one!!! Le HT, tera problem solve ho gaya!!! IDOLbehenji, aap bhi sun rahi hain na??? wink.gif
HumTum
QUOTE(GURUFAN @ Oct 4 2007, 09:41 PM) *
Yes, Om I agree with you that it is uninspiring to people who have sur and taal etc. Therefore We must move over to something which is sort of non- controversial, something like Mehfil or anyone of the other suggested names. And for people like me and HT we must open another sub-forum called "Besur mein hi sahi.." ... sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif


Despite all the dushmani between us brothers we still love each other. wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
OMkar
QUOTE(HumTum @ Oct 4 2007, 10:09 PM) *
QUOTE(GURUFAN @ Oct 4 2007, 09:41 PM) *
Yes, Om I agree with you that it is uninspiring to people who have sur and taal etc. Therefore We must move over to something which is sort of non- controversial, something like Mehfil or anyone of the other suggested names. And for people like me and HT we must open another sub-forum called "Besur mein hi sahi.." ... sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif


Despite all the dushmani between us brothers we still love each other. wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Nice to know that your Dushmani is very much in right SUR... Cheers dude!!
IDOL
QUOTE(OMkar @ Oct 4 2007, 10:14 AM) *
QUOTE(GURUFAN @ Oct 4 2007, 09:41 PM) *
Yes, Om I agree with you that it is uninspiring to people who have sur and taal etc. Therefore We must move over to something which is sort of non- controversial, something like Mehfil or anyone of the other suggested names. And for people like me and HT we must open another sub-forum called "Besur mein hi sahi.." ... sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif That was good one!!! Le HT, tera problem solve ho gaya!!! IDOLbehenji, aap bhi sun rahi hain na??? wink.gif




Nahe....Main nahe sun rahi hon......... biggrin.gif ......well, i wun go for Besur Main hain sahi....since i will be an insult to my Singing instructor's job biggrin.gif -- an Indian who did his Masters in Classic Music ......................im still stickin to Sur Main Na Sahi........Next year when i am out of Beginner level of Komal ,Shudh, and Akar...... i will vote for HF 's New Singers tongue1.gif ....

OMkar
QUOTE(IDOL @ Oct 4 2007, 11:22 PM) *
QUOTE(OMkar @ Oct 4 2007, 10:14 AM) *
QUOTE(GURUFAN @ Oct 4 2007, 09:41 PM) *
Yes, Om I agree with you that it is uninspiring to people who have sur and taal etc. Therefore We must move over to something which is sort of non- controversial, something like Mehfil or anyone of the other suggested names. And for people like me and HT we must open another sub-forum called "Besur mein hi sahi.." ... sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif That was good one!!! Le HT, tera problem solve ho gaya!!! IDOLbehenji, aap bhi sun rahi hain na??? wink.gif




Nahe....Main nahe sun rahi hon......... biggrin.gif ......well, i wun go for Besur Main hain sahi....since i will be an insult to my Singing instructor's job biggrin.gif -- an Indian who did his Masters in Classic Music ......................im still stickin to Sur Main Na Sahi........Next year when i am out of Beginner level of Komal ,Shudh, and Akar...... i will vote for HF 's New Singers tongue1.gif ....


Masters in classic music??? Baap re baap!! bow.gif

I think the name King Rafi and KCP suggest could be very right...

HamareSingers
HamaForums Idol

Both are good but what do think of 'HamareSingers Idol'?? Combo of two!!
King Kishore
Yes Omkar, fully agree with you. Change of name would be definitely better. smile.gif
noorie
How about Meri Awaaz Suno? smile.gif

Noorie
OMkar
QUOTE(noorie @ Oct 5 2007, 03:22 PM) *
How about Meri Awaaz Suno? smile.gif

Noorie

This is really really coooooolll title!!! Or maby be 'HF Ki Awaz Suno'
HumTum
Omkarbhai it won't sound like "listen to my songs.." it would be more like listen to my GRIEVANCES (protests -- which is rampant here) laugh.gif (I wouldn't support this term impossible.gif )

The mention of words like melody, song .. should be present (IMO) wink.gif
OMkar
QUOTE(HumTum @ Oct 5 2007, 03:44 PM) *
Omkarbhai it won't sound like "listen to my songs.." it would be more like listen to my GRIEVANCES (protests -- which is rampant here) laugh.gif (I wouldn't support this term impossible.gif )

The mention of words like melody, song .. should be present (IMO) wink.gif

Well in that case 'meri awaz suno' is ok

But amongst all I liked

HamareSingers
Hamaraforum Idol
HamareSinger Idol

OMkar
QUOTE(IDOL @ Oct 4 2007, 01:54 AM) *
When i upload songs in my voice, i am soooooooo much ok with Sur main NAA sahi.............in case i am out of sur for being not professional yet, i can hide myself behind the title tongue1.gif no change pleej


Assuming your songs are BESUR, and if you upload your song in 'Sur Mein Na Sahi' section, you do not have inspiration to sing those songs in SUR. BUT if the name of the section for instance is 'HamareSinger Idol', and you upload the song which is Slightly out of Sur; you will still have the great inspiration to sing the further song in Sur...

'Sur Mein Na Sahi' would keep on underestimating you all the time. But 'HamareSinger Idol' would encourage you to sing better and better

Just a thought for you to re-think! And even for HumTum smile.gif
kcp
Good site for some of you budding singers tongue1.gif

http://www.podioindia.com/

there is one title there too wink2.gif
King Rafi
I wonder whether Cyborg has read this thread. He has not yet commented anything!
HumTum
QUOTE(OMkar @ Oct 7 2007, 04:04 PM) *
QUOTE(IDOL @ Oct 4 2007, 01:54 AM) *
When i upload songs in my voice, i am soooooooo much ok with Sur main NAA sahi.............in case i am out of sur for being not professional yet, i can hide myself behind the title tongue1.gif no change pleej


Assuming your songs are BESUR, and if you upload your song in 'Sur Mein Na Sahi' section, you do not have inspiration to sing those songs in SUR. BUT if the name of the section for instance is 'HamareSinger Idol', and you upload the song which is Slightly out of Sur; you will still have the great inspiration to sing the further song in Sur...

'Sur Mein Na Sahi' would keep on underestimating you all the time. But 'HamareSinger Idol' would encourage you to sing better and better

Just a thought for you to re-think! And even for HumTum smile.gif

ohmy.gif ninja.gif No I will stay out of it. wacko.gif

May be we should just leave this to Cyborg sahab to decide to choose the title. One of us can write to him. What do you say Omkarbhai? unsure.gif
OMkar
QUOTE(kcp @ Oct 7 2007, 05:09 PM) *
Good site for some of you budding singers tongue1.gif

http://www.podioindia.com/

there is one title there too wink2.gif

Yeah I liked the title 'Awaz Anjane' as well. But how would it sound as 'Hamare AwazAnjane'? Ofc I know my own voice laugh.gif laugh.gif So may be, 'HF ke Awaz Anjane'??? Naa, I dont think that sounds good too... Kyon bhai log?
OMkar
So friends,

Lets move ahead... I would like to short list the following names as suggested you all.

1. HamareSingers Idol
2. HF - Sa Re Ga Ma Pa
3. HF Ke SurTaal
4. HamareGayak

My opinion on the above 3 names

1. HamareSingers Idol: Sounds like a copy of popular TV show but really very impressive.

2. HF - Sa Re Ga Ma Pa: Again sounds like a copy of popular TV show. But I did not like it much

3. HF Ke SurTaal: Sounds new and original. This also has a space for those who think they are BeSur.. So its really an ideal name

4. HamareGayak: This is simple and new name which also provides support for all levels of singers from Besur to Sureele singers.

My vote for title name is 4

HamareGayak


Friends, please give your own votes for the name our of these 4 names... Or is any more suggessions?
King Rafi
Singers and Idol mean the same thing. So it shd be either
Hamare Singers or Hamare Idols

Hamare Gayak is also very good, though it sounds masculine to me, as there might be a word such as 'gayika' for females, in which case, gayak might mean you are restricting it only to males.
HumTum
King Rafi bhai --- gaayak - singers (no gender). I just checked with Shabdkosh. smile.gif

Singers
Your search matched 1 entry. [Show Transliteration]
singer n Play Sound
गानेवाला, गवैया, गायक
King Rafi
Great, then I have no problem with Hamare gayak!
OMkar
QUOTE(King Rafi @ Oct 8 2007, 12:49 PM) *
Great, then I have no problem with Hamare gayak!

Idol means singers?? I dont think so... To me the meaning it show in MS Word is 'Icon', 'Statue', etc etc... I am sure that is the meaning for sure.

And I really did not notice that Gayak does not cover female singers... So I dont think its a right name..
Sorry guys, but my vote is now for number 1

HamareSingers Idol
OMkar
QUOTE(HumTum @ Oct 8 2007, 10:02 AM) *
King Rafi bhai --- gaayak - singers (no gender). I just checked with Shabdkosh. smile.gif

Singers
Your search matched 1 entry. [Show Transliteration]
singer n Play Sound
गानेवाला, गवैया, गायक

But HT, 'Gayak' is not equal to 'Gayika'. So the word Gayak does not support female singers.
HumTum
Omkarbhai --- I did a check on the dictionary brother. Please recheck.. ninja.gif
OMkar
QUOTE(HumTum @ Oct 8 2007, 03:45 PM) *
Omkarbhai --- I did a check on the dictionary brother. Please recheck.. ninja.gif

Wait wait, which word should I check? Accorrding to me here is what I mean by these words

Gayak = Male Singer
Gayika = Female Singer
Singer = Male/ Female Singer
Idol = Icon, Statue

Please confirm if I am right or missing something...

My Vote still stands for 1

HamareSingers Idol
HumTum
ohmy.gif Then Shabdgosh is giving us wrong information. mad.gif
OMkar
QUOTE(HumTum @ Oct 8 2007, 06:22 PM) *
ohmy.gif Then Shabdgosh is giving us wrong information. mad.gif

so whats ur vote??

KRbhai, you can still vote for 4 because I think when there are more than one singer and that consist male and female, then still we call such group as 'Gayak' only, I mean in that sense 'HamareGayak' should be right...

Am I right guys?
HumTum
My vote? laugh.gif It would be vote of thanks. Frankly I haven't thought of a title bhai. ninja.gif
OMkar
QUOTE(HumTum @ Oct 8 2007, 06:42 PM) *
My vote? laugh.gif It would be vote of thanks. Frankly I haven't thought of a title bhai. ninja.gif

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Main to bhool hi gaya that you dont even to change the current name!!! But still in case if they want to change, what should that be according to you??

Please at least now u can vote, right???? Click to view attachment
ravikumarofindia
"Sur Mein Na Sahin"
The name implies a pessimistic view on new endeavors.

Omkar is correct. The sub forum title should be something which encourages more and more HF members to come and join the mehfil and let others know how they sound like.

It should have a name showing optimism towards fresh efforts and should also justify its purpose at the same time.

Many names already have been suggested here. I liked the "HF ki Mehfil" or "Meri Awaaz Suno" titles.

Let's see which one gets the final vote. smile1.gif
bawlachintu
QUOTE
I am expecting opinions of many valuable members such as Anwar Fan, King Rafi, Sanjkash, Dhananjay, HumTum, eskayes, King Kishore, Marcilo, Dubloo, Paresh Pai, Shabbitkumar786, ravikumarfromindia, Deewani, Madhavi, GURUFAN, Azad, etc and many others whom I missed to mention here.


No probs OMkar. People here has developed this nasty habit of
forgetting names, intentionally.

By the way, what's your criteria of selecting candidates in your list?
Song uploads or other....................
OMkar
QUOTE(bawlachintu @ Oct 8 2007, 07:01 PM) *
QUOTE
I am expecting opinions of many valuable members such as Anwar Fan, King Rafi, Sanjkash, Dhananjay, HumTum, eskayes, King Kishore, Marcilo, Dubloo, Paresh Pai, Shabbitkumar786, ravikumarfromindia, Deewani, Madhavi, GURUFAN, Azad, etc and many others whom I missed to mention here.


No probs OMkar. People here has developed this nasty habit of
forgetting names, intentionally.

By the way, what's your criteria of selecting candidates in your list?
Song uploads or other....................

Chintubhai, there is no criteria as such... I just requested the names as I remembered while typing that msg.. I am mainly active in Kishore Kumar, Amit Kumar, Marathi forums and I did not see much of your activity since I joined HF... So I might have forgotten name... People might have developed any habit but mine was surely unintentional.

2 basic questions:


1. Do you agree for the change of name of this forum 'Sur Meini Na Sahi'
2. If yes, then on given suggession what could be the right name? (You can also suggest a good and new name if you want)
OMkar
QUOTE(ravikumarofindia @ Oct 8 2007, 06:54 PM) *
"Sur Mein Na Sahin"
The name implies a pessimistic view on new endeavors.

Omkar is correct. The sub forum title should be something which encourages more and more HF members to come and join the mehfil and let others know how they sound like.

It should have a name showing optimism towards fresh efforts and should also justify its purpose at the same time.

Many names already have been suggested here. I liked the "HF ki Mehfil" or "Meri Awaaz Suno" titles.

Let's see which one gets the final vote. smile1.gif

So Ravi, did you not like any one from shorted 4? Guys, should we short list again or should we wait for some more suggesions before we short list for voting?
bawlachintu
QUOTE
I did not see much of your activity since I joined HF...


Ok. Charges withdrawn. By the way, your shoulder is used here to
shot those who do it intentionally. biggrin.gif

QUOTE
1. Do you agree for the change of name of this forum 'Sur Meini Na Sahi'


Any name will do. wink2.gif
OMkar
QUOTE
Any name will do. wink2.gif

Do you mean that current title 'Sur mein Na Sahi' is inspiring enough for those who are slightly out of Sur and comfortable enough for those who surely sing in Sur? Could you please help us understand how?

And Chintubhai, please please dont use my shoulder for your target hunting laugh.gif I am fairly new member, and my shoulder is not strong enough to understand your intensions, lol
mmuk2004
What is the current short-list? May one add one more ...rather late in the day...
Mile sur hamara tumhara : Hamari Mehfil

That might appease the self-conscious non-singer enthusiasts and the serious singers who find the "sur mein na sahi" discouraging... unsure.gif
Meri awaaz suno is nice but some Rafi fans might object as it was the previous name of the Rafi group.
bawlachintu
QUOTE(OMkar @ Oct 8 2007, 07:38 PM) *

QUOTE
Any name will do. wink2.gif

Do you mean that current title 'Sur mein Na Sahi' is inspiring enough for those who are slightly out of Sur and comfortable enough for those who surely sing in Sur? Could you please help us understand how?

And Chintubhai, please please dont use my shoulder for your target hunting laugh.gif I am fairly new member, and my shoulder is not strong enough to understand your intensions, lol

Manne se na hi poochho to achcha hai. Mera title aisa hoga-

Besuri Bhadaas or Vocal Gymnastics unsure.gif biggrin.gif
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Go for something unusual: "Geet sunoge huzoor.............."
OMkar
QUOTE(bawlachintu @ Oct 8 2007, 07:50 PM) *
QUOTE(OMkar @ Oct 8 2007, 07:38 PM) *

QUOTE
Any name will do. wink2.gif

Do you mean that current title 'Sur mein Na Sahi' is inspiring enough for those who are slightly out of Sur and comfortable enough for those who surely sing in Sur? Could you please help us understand how?

And Chintubhai, please please dont use my shoulder for your target hunting laugh.gif I am fairly new member, and my shoulder is not strong enough to understand your intensions, lol

Manne se na hi poochho to achcha hai. Mera title aisa hoga-

Besuri Bhadaas or Vocal Gymnastics unsure.gif biggrin.gif
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Go for something unusual: "Geet sunoge huzoor.............."

Thank GOD, your name was not in my requesting list laugh.gif Anyways thanks for ur LOVELY suggessions! rolleyes.gif
OMkar
QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ Oct 8 2007, 07:46 PM) *
What is the current short-list? May one add one more ...rather late in the day...
Mile sur hamara tumhara : Hamari Mehfil

That might appease the self-conscious non-singer enthusiasts and the serious singers who find the "sur mein na sahi" discouraging... unsure.gif
Meri awaaz suno is nice but some Rafi fans might object as it was the previous name of the Rafi group.

Wow Madhavi, very nice name really

'Mile Sur Hamara Tumhara'

Ok guys, lets wait till next monday and then I will make a list of all the suggested names and then we will all vote. Is that alright?
HumTum
Omkarbhai will then ask me to sing Mile Sur Humtum. laugh.gif

But I think Hamaare gaayak is great. smile.gif (short and sweet)
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