QUOTE(fiftysomeone @ Jul 30 2005, 05:32 AM)
QUOTE(Pulkit @ Jul 29 2005, 08:49 PM)
Dear Ashish
This is going to be news for some. Naushad sahab who takes pride in deriding remixes and song imitations and has worked hard to protect piracy and copyrights is caught red handed here. The song by Indu Bala was recorded in 1930s, lyrics are traditional. Naushad used the same tune in Mughal-e-Azam. Shakeel and Naushad are not to be credited for this song as the lyrics are traditonal and the tune is lifted from Indu Bala's song.
Pulkit bhai,
Interesting observation, I had been un-aware of Indubala's version. However, it is a bit debatable whether using a folk song as a basis for a song is plagiarism; several of the earlier MD's always drew upon the cultural roots of their regions. The matter of course may be one of degree of commonality.
Cheers.
Thanks friends
actually this song is truly a folk song and may be that even possible before 1930's played in royal darbar.Yes I also believe that many music directors used folk songs with similar tunes also a folk with different tune would certainly be unpopular and people would easily trace it.I am not sure if he has credited to shakeelji.belive me till toady I had the impression it is traditional Yes it is wrong to credit shakeel badayuni for the lyrics,though he added some stanzas ofcourse .It was not expected from Naushadji.
the question raised by fiftysome is good,how to decide whether using folk is piracy or not.I think to use these traditional numbers even somewhat edited the antarras can be treated right if credit is given to original.even today in veerzaara they used old punjabi folk "sadke sadke "and credited as traditional .
..I was listening to jagjit kaur song "larri ve larri tujhse ankh jo larri
The music director cleverly copied punjabi folk tune "ari ver ari na kar bothi tu ari "therefore Jagjit's version can be treated as pirated folk.
Read this regarding song from mughal-e-azam
"K.Asif wanted the best choreographer for the song. Naushad sug-
gested Lachchu Maharaj. And the great Kathak exponent burst into
tears the minute her heard the song. Asif was baffled. "Why is
he crying," he asked Naushad. "Tell him to start dancing."
Naushad took the dancer aside and asked him why he was weeping.
Lachchu Maharaj confided that his father, Alkaji Bindadin, had
been Nawab Wajid Ali Shah's darbari dancer. And "mohe panghat pe
nandalal" with nawab playing Krishna, was his favourite composi-
tion. "Hearing the number after all these years, I was
overwhelmed. It reminded me of baba"
please do add
warm regards
ashish.