This topic does not pertain to this forum but the outcome can so.....
Can someone tell me how to normalise volume within a track ie if the track has fluctuating volume how does one get the thing to one single volume?
An option in cool edit would help as that is the only thing I have at least 1% idea abt thanks to Talkzji. Or Goldwave maybe. I have a few songs that go that way--very irritating and frustrating.

Lady u need mp3gain-freeware.

cinemaniac2

Most of the MP3 player and Audio CD burning s/w has this feature now built in..... Just look for normalized option for burning and gain control for s/w player....

Nero has a normalise function as does mp3 workshop--I though these were for normalising all tracks for cd burning!!!
What is mp3gain?
BTW when a song begins right away with music and ends the same way how does one remove noise? In cooledit U select noise and then eliminate it par jab poora music hai to kya kar sakte hain?

mp3gain will do the same thing what normalize does for entire CD.... Mp3gain I guess u have to do it once and it converts the original song ... Many mp3 player has this dynamic gain control thing... so you can leave the original file intact....

For starting and trailing of song what you want is fading... many professional sound editor has various filters for fading , they come in various taste ... like smooth fading , fast fading , etc etc... you just need to select this and add fading to it... I 've not used cooledit yet so dunno how u do it in that... maybe those who use cooledit frequently might know the answer ?

No I want to change the original file!!! I do not like the fluctuating vol one bit!!!



No I do not want fade in and fade out--what i meant is in cool edit U select a part that has noise but no song like at the beginning or end of the track. Then that is used to eliminate similar noise throughout the file. But many songs just start baaaaaa with the music and end dhup with music. To koi kya kare???
Where is my Guru Talkzji???
And where is Pradeep with the promised and undelivered Goldwave tutorial???
P

PRIYA JI i will recommend u "MP3 doctor" its easy for u,user friendly.

get it from www.download.com

for further detail email me coz i know u will need kcarc (reverse it) to make this s/w full version.

ON cooledit in order to normalize the song. You need to go to Effects Then Amplitude Then Normalize.


Have u uploaded the song for all the maharatis on the forum to take a crack at it?

Someone here might be able to fix it. If the source is horrible there is not much u can do.

Guru

Thanks for the tip. Also I usually adjust playback rate with goldwave--does cooledit have an option. Sorry for sounding like such a goose. Now Unni will say sounding like?


Guruji aap hi ka intezaar tha. This song does not have much vol problem but it has serious crackle and what not issues. Main to kar kar koshish har gayi, song noise ke saath hi record hui........ (that is my parody of an NJ song btw)

http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?showtopic=9380
Please see what U can do with this. I will be really grateful.

Thanks Humbleji for the suggestion. I just learnt a bit of cool edit yesterday so keen on getting a proper hang of that sw. But will keep this in mind too incase I prove to dumb to figure out CE.

Guruji tried normalising. Did not work. I have a song that dips in vol suddenly at the antara and that dip remains after normalising. Should I enter figures or values?Also the crackle removal feature it tells me it will require 7+ hrs to fix crackle--I told it no thanks. 7 hrs for one song?????? Does it really work like that?

make that CRACKLE!!!! Me and my dumb brain and typocs!!!

I didnt think normalize would bring up the volume of ur song u have to grab sections and try to adjust that what is low. I haven never had to adjust the speed of the recording with cooledit so i will have to check if there is a option to do that also.

I will take a look at it tomm.

Oh God! I have created a monster!!!

More like you just aggravated an existing mostrosity.

I just walked into that didn't I??

TTG:

Doesn't monsterni's upload sound like Arjuna taking a respite to sing a duet with Subhadra even as the Pandavas and Kauravas are raising a din in the background?

Sounds recorded in ancient times, too!

I bet it's of archival/historical importance.

Yet, we are humbly 'grrrrrate'-ful for these tender mercies emanating from Shurpi herself.

Well if monster it is I have laid the blame at Ur feet in every post!!!!

U creeps!!!!!! No more songs for U!!!!!! All songs will from here on be uled with a bug so that they extract on all comps but those of the EX genies!!!!!
Bhalai ka to zamana hi nahi raha.
Aur nek aur hoshiyar batche jo apna gyan badhana chahte hain--unko bilkul hausala bhi nahi dete.

LOL!!!!!!
Monsterni!!!! P sings in Asha's voice--tere liye hum to ho gaye badnaam sanwariya (sanwariya being the aforementioned song!!!)
Well U can show Ur gratitude as well as technical superiority by reviving that currently dead raw thread of Urs with some more dvd rips!!!!!

There's a first for everything! I don't think I've ever been called a creep, loved it!
Henceforth - TTGC

Nahin nahin batche, khoob padho, khoob seekho, Main Hoon Na! My only worry is -mujhe kitna pehle seekhna parega na??!!! Ab aayi baat samajh mein???

If U want notes on the experience U may consult Unni--he ought to have copius notes on the subject!!!!

BTW what does TTG stand for and which forum gave U that grand or dubious (whichever it may be) distinction?



Haan ab aayi baat samajh mein. But seriously my shy friend's version of the Lekh song has me humbled and in a state of sad realisation of my non existent abilities.
Talkzji teach me more!!!!!!!! How do U remove noise when the track starts with music and ends with it with not even a peep of isolated noise before or after.

Some tracks start and/or end abruptly with loud music as intended. In such cases, I retain it the way it was, for "fading in" alters the original music. All I do is to ensure there are a few seconds of silence before and after the track.

But in instances when the recording starts abruptly in the middle of the music prelude, I use "fade in" to introduce the music gradually.

Similarly, if a song ends abruptly with the last line of the sung portion, or the music ends abruptly, I use "fade out" for a gradual tapering off, even if it means that the last few words/chords may become virtually inaudible.

When copied from audio-cassette, the "silence" before/after the song would contain 'hiss'. What I do is to delete those recorded silent sections and insert a few seconds of silence (which of course, will be without the hiss). The silence before and after the song is a requisite. Otherwise, if we burn the track onto a CD, there will be no gap between songs.



I don't know if I've answered your question. But even when you are working with a track with no silence before/after, the process of "cleaning" would be the same --- remove pop/click, softening, filtering, etc. And at the end of it all, adding a few seconds of silence before and after the track.

Moving this thread to Computing and Technology.

Yes I had read that--do I reply here or there????
The thing is U edit noise in Sound forge which has a diff method. Cool edit uses snatches of the track before or after the music and vocals begin/end where there is just crackle and noise--U add that profile and it is used to clean similar noise in the part with music and vocals. So my question was when the song begins with music and ends with the same with no beginning needle scratch etc what does one do? If U selct any portion the music gets recorded by the sw as noise U have selcted and it gets removed over the whole track!!! Do U understand the problem now? Thanks for the tips on fading in/out.

Just as in regard to you, I understand the problem but don't have a solution.

I use Sound Forge, so let's wait for the CoolEdit experts, including the answer to " And why does the sw need 7 hrs to remove crackle"?

I use a program called DePopper which minimizes the 'big clicks' and then minimizes the 'small pops', in less than a minute. Even Goldwave has that function, but I've not found it effective. But surely, there's something odd about this "7-hour" business.

(I've moved your post from the "LEKH" song thread to this appropriate venue).

im glad u understand the importance of this now

Lo Mera Guru aa gaya. Priya if anyone can get it at its best is dharmaan. Im still in the learning process he has lot of experienceo on vynls and recordings.

Guru ka chela

im still in the dark ages man, and u know about my memory lapses, im sufferin from that at the moment, so u carry on helping till i get better

Sometimes u get lucky, there will be a pause in the song (esp soon after the start), where there's almost no music. I play the song expanding the visual, so that I can see the pause too, if any ... and then use that as the profile. Failing which you rely on all the other Noise reduction effects. I haven't ever got a 7 hour wait to reduce crackle, mainly because I refuse to listen to anything "horrendous", honestly, I just can't stand all that noise, I get physically ill - headaches and all!! Max. I have had to wait has been an hour maybe, I suppose the time would depend on all the settings, which I don't understand, just muddle through. Hope I haven't confused and confounded you Good luck!

can we have that in urdu plz

... which is why I prefer to do this at yahoo... ab aayi baat samajh mein Priye dear??

Would someone please illuminate me on the topic of "resampling". I noticed, for example, an upload by sangeetbhakt having "resampled" in the tag.

What does resampling do in terms of improving sound quality? Any pointers on using this feature would be appreciated.

Thanks.

In one word, it does "nothing".

resampling can be downsampling or upsampling. In the former case, it just reduces the file size by lowering the bit rate (say, from 128 kbps to 64 kbps) and thus, decreasing the quality of the mp3.

In upsampling, it just bloats the size of the file without introducing anything new or better in it. If all you have is hay, you can only make a hay-stack out of it.

U said that sw came bundled with some other stuff right?

The main problem I face is I have always been so bad at maths and physics that all these controls with numbers just do not mean anything to me!!!
Can anyone tell me how I can increase vol of vocals alone?

Well I really need to get a hang of this stuff for while I love crystal clear music and any day appreciate great songs of the post 60s with each instrument distinct and so on I also have a special fancy for 40s songs. 30s I rarely like but love the quaint music of the 40s and early 50s and any music U get of that era seems to be horrendous in quality. Film versions can be better provided they do not skip but most often lp and cass stuff is just as full of noise as it is of music!!!
BTW does anyone know how to correct mild distortions in sound--like slightly out of tune files?
The worst of editing sounds unlike say pictures is I really do not understand what I am doing--we are talking abt a person who really does not even know much abt bass and treble!!! So it is all hit or miss!!

Hello there,

I'm from Turkey and rather new to this forum.

I like Indian songs, especially the old ones. For about one year I have been in process of cleaning old Hindi songs in my own respect.

I found this topic by chance and interested in it.

Is it possible for me to have the song in question?

I'm not pretentious but just want to have a humble chance...

Thanks in advance

Regards

Kistin