I am missing these Lata #-all SJ movies

Please u/l them if you have them

thanks

01)Gaban-1966-Sajan le jayega tujhko ghar

02)Gaban-1966-maine dekha tha sapno mein

03)Zindagi-1964-Choone Na doongi Haath re(with asha)

04)Zindagi-1964-Ek Naye Mehmaan Ke Aane

05)Sanjh Aur Savera-1964-Manmohan Krishna Murari

06)Sanjh Aur Savera-1964-O Sajna Mere Ghar Angna

07)Apne Hue Paraye-1964-Bahar Banke woh Muskuraye

08)Apne Hue Paraye-1964-Kismet Ne Kya Din Dikhlaye

09)Apne Hue Paraye-1964-Maine Bulaya Aur Tum aaye

10)Apne hue Paray-1964-Gagan Ke Chanda Na Pooch(with Subir Sen)
11)Rangoli-1962-Sagar Pe Aaj Maujo Ka Raj

12)Aashiq-1962-Jhanan Jhananan Ke Apni Payal

13)Roop Ki Rani Choron Ka Raja-1961-Aisi Hi Agar Marzi Hain Teri

14)Krorepati-1961-O Sajana Na Pooch Mujhse

15)Krorepati-1961-Saiyan Na Chedo Dil Ke Taar

16)Jab Pyar kisise Hota Hai-1961-Sito Pito Rito

17)Aas Ka Panchi-1961-Hai Meri Uljhi Nazar

18)Rajkumar-1964-Naach Re Man Badkamma(with Asha)
Thanks Again

cinemaniac2

1. Here's - Rangoli-1962-Sagar Pe Aaj Maujo Ka Raj, SJ, Shailendra.

2. I had got all songs from a friend's CD of Jab Pyar Kisise Hota Hain - the only Lata solo's are -

Jiya O Jiya O Jiya Kuchh Bol Do
Nazar Mere Dilke Paar
Tum Jaise Bigde Babu

This is all I remember having from your list, will delve into my lists and check further.

Thanks



I have all these 3 songs but the geet kosh lists one more

Sito Rito Pito Sito Rito Pito Re Pa Pa Ja-Lata & Others

Here are two numbers from Saanjh aur savera.

05)Sanjh Aur Savera-1964-Manmohan Krishna Murari
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06)Sanjh Aur Savera-1964-O Sajna Mere Ghar Angna
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Long break Chitz?

glad to have you back

thank you for the songs

CM-ji, here are 2 songs requested from Film-"ZINDAGI"(1964),
Music: Shanker Jaikishen:

03)Zindagi-1964-Choone Na doongi Haath re(with asha)-Duet

04)Zindagi-1964-Ek Naye Mehmaan Ke Aane-Lataji solo

Enjoy,

Mohd.

CM-ji, here are 2 songs requested from Film-"ZINDAGI"(1964),
Music: Shanker Jaikishen:

03)Zindagi-1964-Choone Na doongi Haath re(with asha)-Duet

04)Zindagi-1964-Ek Naye Mehmaan Ke Aane-Lataji solo

Enjoy,

Mohd.

thank you mohd sahab for the zindagi songs

here is the song from aas ka panchhi

Ghulam Sahab -Shukriya

this was one song i wanted very much

thank you once more

here is one SJ+Lata song -not so popular but very good(Ms. T u don't have it)

I think it has not been u/l before

Film-Aman-1967

SJ-Hasrat

*Rajendra Kumar & Saira Banu

5:16-128kbps

Apne Piya Ki Prem-Lata

another not so common song

Film-Boyfriend-1961

SJ-Shailendra

Shammi Kapoor & Madhubala & Dharmendra

5:04-128kbps

Dekho Na Jao Aye Janeman-Lata

there is also a Subir Sen version of this song

this movie had superb songs- however this song never became popular

Film-Jab Pyar Kisise Hota Hai-1961

SJ-Shailendra

*Dev Anand & Asha Parekh

3:25-128kbps

Nazar Mere Dil Ke Paar Hui-Lata

Film-Ek Dil Sau Afsane-1963

SJ-Shailendra

Door Ke O Chanda-Lata

2:57-128kbps

Great... thanks, keep the gems coming! It must be ages and ages since I hear this one!!
Here's one for you. By the way what on earth are they singing?? Badkamma? Barkamma? What does it mean??

18)Rajkumar-1964-Naach Re Man Badkamma(with Asha)
Lyrics: Shailendra?
4:26 @ 128 kbps.
extracted from a DVD (songs)

Thanks for these great gems everyone !!!

IMO S-J were the composers who gave Lata the maximum variety. She even says this in her interviews that the variety of work she did with S-J is unparalleled. A good number of Lata's best songs are by S-J, and all in different genres. S-J are the ones who made Lata zoom to the top, and in turn she gave her very best to their master compositions. Also, with their support, she was virtually able to knock off all competition and become the top female singer. Truly an outstanding combination.

I think it is some word in one of the South Indian Language.
There was also a Mehmood song.
Badkamma Badkamma...ekad poto ra

Thanks for the u/l

cinemaniac2

That was the song that went ikkade ikkade aa right? That should say Marathi but I think that is kannada? Some similar words in the 2 langs I think.

Telugu.

I think ikkade means here and aa means come in Marathi Its just a guess though.

Yes ikkade is here, akkade is there I think but I thot ikkade was also used in Kannada--but Hitsji says Telegu--wha does badkamma mean?

I found from a couple of sites that Batkamma could mean may be "Immortal Women" or "mother of livelihood".

Naach re man... immortal women?? mother of livelihood???
Thumak thumak ... immortal women?? mother of livelihood???
Main bhi naachu tu bhi naache, har koi naache ... immortal women?? mother of livelihood???

You mean 'ikde' not 'ikkade'. 'Ikde' means here in Marathi. 'Ikkade' as used by Rafi and Sharada in the 'Badkamma' number is a Telugu usage.

OK got it

Chitz had the right spelling-Batkamma

Now if anyone remembers the movie- the song is picturised on a river bank with lots of female dancing and singing this song.

It is a Andhra Pradesh Festival.

It is celebrated for the goddess Batkamma-after a lot of dancing and revelry the statue of the godess is left in the river or lake to float gently.

cinemaniac2

Prince Bhai,

I disagree with you, there are other composers who gave Lata as much variety as SJ. I think Lata has a very short memory, she overlooks a certain MD who made a significant contribution in her career. She has been doing this for the past 10-12 years not acknowledging their work whilst mentioning every other Tom, dick and Harry composer.

Lata is a very clever lady why do you think she is the only artiste in the film industry never to struggle. I'm not taking anything away from her as a artiste, I lover her songs and voice but she knew when to back certain MD's right from Husnlal Bhagatram to Vishal Bharadwaj to propel her career.

Regs
Saj

If we read between the lines, Lata-ji showers praise on Jaikishen but is reticent in her views about Shankar.

She reportedly said that Jaikishen was skilled in classical music, that Shankar too "had some knowledge"!

On the contrary, a grateful and un-biased Manna Dey pinpointed Shankar for his classical ability.

It is generally known that Shankar and Jaikishen did not really compose together after their early years, and only collaborated for RK movies. Although the music of their movies was credited to S-J, the only thing in common was the heiphen! For the most part, each composed separately. For example, "AMRAPALI", "SANJH AUR SAVERA", "DIL EK MANDIR", and 'PATANGA" were by Shankar alone, whereas several movies were done by Jaikishen, e.g. "AAYI MILAN KI BELA".

"SANGAM" had songs composed both separately and jointly.

But, even after Jaikishen's death, movie scores by Shankar were credited to the duo -- in sharp contrast to the famed South-Indian pair Viswanathan-Ramamurthy -- after their split, the MD's name was the stand-alone "Viswanathan".

Lata-ji, despite her legendary status, is still human and prone to personal views. In the case of Jaikishen, their once "personal relationship" most likely clouds her views. (To start on a clean slate, Jaikishen reportedly confessed it to his future bride, prior to his marriage to Pallavi).

When Sajjad-bhai recently referred to the "virgin" quality of her voice, I was reminded of reports of the celebrated singer's "associations" -- with one of the Husnlal-Bhagatram team and simultaneously with C. Ramachandra! The latter, apparently, was no secret in the industry. But the MD behaved like a cad, and is reported to have said, "She wanted marriage. I only wanted to have fun".

That Shankar was promoting a non-singer like Sharda, again for personal reasons, did not particularly endear him to Lata-ji!

Nice write up Unni Ji

You have stated some very good points and some facts I wasn't aware off.

regs
saj

Saj Bhai,

I meant S-J were composers who gave Lata the maximum variety, not "the only" composers, I should have written it differently, my apoligies. I acknowledge that many others such as L-P and SDB just to name two gave her variety. RDB for all his Asha feasts, gave Lata a treat of beautiful numbers and C. Ramachandra gave Lata excellent variety as well, especially from that 50-55 period. Many do not acknowledge Chitragupta's association with Lata, but the range of compositions he gave her was remarkable. So all in all, there were many who gave Lata variety, but if you take a look at the repetoire of the MD's that Lata worked with, you will see that S-J were one of the few who go beyond just variety along with a few other composers. I mentioned what Lata had said about S-J just to go along the lines of what I was trying to say. Regardless of if Lata mentions it or not, the fact is many composers gave her awesome songs. In fact L-P also had tremendous variety with her but the media refuses to notice it. Laxmikant said:

"All the learned people who wrote about music never spotlighted the 100 per cent truth that we gave her the kind of variety no other composer did. Neither did HMV, who repeatedly highlighted her songs with other composers who never experimented her sheer versatility and voice in the way Pyare and I always did."

I agree with Laxmi that they gave her awesome variety, and I feel it was them along with a few others who's range of songs for her was, let me put it in these terms: like a whole garden of flowers instead of just a bouquet .

True, Lata has not given credit to many MD's who have given her timeless songs. In fact, this was also the case with S-J. When Lata had completed 25 years in the industry, she didn't list one S-J song in her top 25 list, and named a song from amongst all of her main composers, and in some interviews she praises some composers more than others. She doesn't give credit when and where its due. But then again, we have to look beyond all this and savour her voice, because she was the very best (female) in her field. When it comes to S-J, they didn't need any backing from her to reach the top, they would have regardless of if she sang for them or not. But I agree when it comes to others, that she has backed them to boost her career.

Cheers

Great write-up Unni !!.

I also read in various articles that Lata was close to Jaikishan and when he chose Pallavi as his wife, she was upset and in turn Jai told her not to sing for them for two years. Again all rumours, especially the latter part.

As I mentioned in my last post, even though she praises the S-J duo, she has many times ignored them, even to the extent of not mentioning that they were a big part in her rise to the top. This nature of her's is evident in the comments she has towards other music directors as well and not just S-J.

Though Shankar & Jaikishan did compose separately right throughout their career, they did collaborate alot of times post 1964, which was the year of their break-up. They not only composed together in RK movies, but for many other loyal producers as well. For example Lal Patthar, An Evening In Paris, Jaane Anjane, Andaz, Brahmachari, Aankhon Aankhon Mein, etc had several songs by both. ("Gaya Bachpan" from J. Omprakash's 'Aankhon Ankhon Mein' was Jaikishan's last song.)

One way of finding out who composed what song, is by looking at the lyricist. Shankar mostly worked with Shailendra and Jai with Hasrat with a few exceptions here and there. But this was not always the case. For example, in some songs, Shankar would come up with the mukhda and Jai with the antara or vice-versa. The majority of music fans identify a S or a J song by the lyricists though.

In the case of 'Aye Milan Ki Bela', most of the songs were written by Shailendra, so we would assume it was scored by Shankar, with the help of Jai. Again, 'Sanjh Aur Savera', had lyrics by both Shailendra and Hasrat, so most likely the two of them worked on the film together.

Cheers

I have seen an interview on ocassion of her 75th b'day, in which she clearly mentions that it was SJ who gave her the maximum variety. She always said that it was Raj Kapoor who got the best from her, which more or less, means the same. She also mentioned a large number of MDs and her fav songs. May be we can u/l them, and I have several from the list. I've been planning this for some time, but due to heavy workload, was unable to do this... May be sometime later in the day/night?

Film-Gumnaam-1965

SJ-Hasrat

*Manoj Kumar & Nanda

4:47-128kbps

Is Duniya Mein Jeena Hai-Lata

One of them would be SJ
When she must have been interviewed she must have been so pissed off SJ that
among 35 of her top favourite songs- not a single SJ compositon.

here's the link

http://gaurav-kumar.tripod.com/lata.htm

goto lata's favourites.

cinemaniac2

Film-Chotti Bahen-1959

SJ-Shailendra

*Balraj Sahni,Rehman,Shyama & Nanda

4:25-128kbps

Baghon Mein Baharon Mein-Lata & Others

Film-Kathputli-1957

SJ-Shailendra

*Balraj Sahni & Vyjanthimala

4:22-128kbps

Itne Bade Jahan Mein Aye Dil-Lata

Film-April Fool-1964

SJ-Hasrat

*Biswajeet & Saira Banu

5:08-128kbps

Unki Pehli Nazar Kya Asar-Lata

Ohhhh Cine thou hard hearted man, thou insensitive boor... thou uploadst when most of us can't downloadst???

lady I can't d/l

I am not good at talks(Talkz)

so I u/l

BTW- i thought zip was ok for u


and don't worry BJ - is our Munnabhai Mbbs he will solve the problem

after his golf rounds

BJ is on the job, I am the guinea pig! No, I have problem with zip files. Rar are fine. Of course you are good at Talks(Talkz too), if I can chatter on, so can you, so can anyone for that matter!

Film-Hariyali Aur Rasta-1962

SJ-Shailendra

*Manoj Kumar & Mala Sinha

4:48-128kbps

Ek Tha Raja Ek Thi Rani-Lata

Another classic from SJ-treasure chest

this was not so famous but its a classic

Film-Awara-1951

SJ-Hasrat

2:39-192kbps

Jabse Balam Ghar Aaye-Lata

It is indeed Telugu language, and Batkamma is a AP festival, where women lit fire and dance around it singing "Batkamma Batkamma Ooiyaloo", since Mehmood was so attached to Hyderabad he might have seen it plenty of times. In this song 'Batkamma' refers to a female name and NOT the festival. Since the word Batkamma sounds funny, its often used in jokes in HYD, and Enkanna or Yenkanna (however you pronounce it) is a common male name in AP rural areas.

Here is the translation of that song:

Batkamma Batkamma Ekkad Pothao Ra, Ikadda Ikadda Ra
Enkanna Enkanna Ekkad Pothao Ra, Ikadda Ikadda Ra

Translation:
Bathkamma Bathkamma, tum jaogay kahan, idhar idhar aao.
Enkanna Enkanna, tum jaogay kahan, idhar idhar aao.

I may sound funny, but thats Mehmood not me

A reminder

I have got the songs marked in blue, if any one has acquired any of the remaining songs pls upload them

thanks

I am missing these Lata #-all SJ movies

Please u/l them if you have them

thanks

01)Gaban-1966-Sajan le jayega tujhko ghar

02)Gaban-1966-maine dekha tha sapno mein

03)Zindagi-1964-Choone Na doongi Haath re(with asha)

04)Zindagi-1964-Ek Naye Mehmaan Ke Aane

05)Sanjh Aur Savera-1964-Manmohan Krishna Murari

06)Sanjh Aur Savera-1964-O Sajna Mere Ghar Angna

07)Apne Hue Paraye-1964-Bahar Banke woh Muskuraye

08)Apne Hue Paraye-1964-Kismet Ne Kya Din Dikhlaye

09)Apne Hue Paraye-1964-Maine Bulaya Aur Tum aaye

10)Apne hue Paray-1964-Gagan Ke Chanda Na Pooch(with Subir Sen)

11)Rangoli-1962-Sagar Pe Aaj Maujo Ka Raj

12)Aashiq-1962-Jhanan Jhananan Ke Apni Payal

13)Roop Ki Rani Choron Ka Raja-1961-Aisi Hi Agar Marzi Hain Teri

14)Krorepati-1961-O Sajana Na Pooch Mujhse

15)Krorepati-1961-Saiyan Na Chedo Dil Ke Taar

16)Jab Pyar kisise Hota Hai-1961-Sito Pito Rito

17)Aas Ka Panchi-1961-Hai Meri Uljhi Nazar

18)Rajkumar-1964-Naach Re Man Badkamma(with Asha)Thanks Again

cinemaniac2

Pl also u/l this song

Mein Har Raat Jaagee, Ke Is Baaar Saajan
Mohabbat Tumhen Is Taraf Kheench Laaye
Tumhari Kasam Tum Bahut Yaad Aaaye.
Na Poocchoo Ye Din Hamne Kaise Bitaaaye
Tumhari Kasam Tum Bahut Yaad Aaaye.

Perhaps the song is from Film-Gaban.

(Hits bhai Kahan Ho?)

Here is one of the requests-
12)Aashiq-1962-Jhanan Jhananan Ke Apni Payal


Enjoy,


Mohd.

Thank you mohd saab

Film-Gaban-1966

SJ-Shailendra

*Sunil Dutt & Sadhana

3:25-128kbps

Tumhari Kasam Tum Bahut Yaad Aaye-Lata

cinemaniac2 Ji,

Yeh Leejiye.

peeps im gonna be a pain but is there any way if i can ask you kind and wonderful guys n gals to u/l all the tracks that have been removed since the last 30 days..
i know i know im being a pain i missed all the goodies..