Hello friends,
I have this Meera bhajan 'phagun ke din char holi khel mana re' --sounds like a 50s song--but cannot find any info abt it--don't know if it is a film song or pvt one--sounds very Jaidevish to me but could be wrong. Can someone check the geet Kosh and see if there is an entry for this song?
I again have another version of the same song by Ashaji sung a few decades later--diff tune--the occasion was her completing 50 yrs of film singing and her sisters Meena and Usha composed several bhajans which were recorded and added to 4 done for Jaidev in An Unforgettable Treat and the album was brought out titled Bala Main Bairagan hoongi. This was recently rereleased as Main bairagan Ho Gai.
Will post both versions of the bhajan sometime.
Priya

My info (and that's not the geetkosh) is that this is a mid to late 50s Asha nonfilm Meera Bhajan, rereleased under the "Main Bairagan Ho Gayi" album. Don't go to bank with it, though....my mule's been wrong before.

Some mule that!!!!
Nope it cannot be a rerelease--the tunes are different. The non film Main Bairagan one is 4 + mins long--did not check the stanzas but definitely has more music. The other one is a little more classical--beautifully sung--I like it more. An Unforgettable Treat had only 4 Meera bhajans as per my knowledge and anyway that is an 80s album--this song is very clearly a 50s one. Maybe like those songs ambuva ki dali and geet kitne ga chuki hoon which were not film songs?
P confused

Re-release of the bhajan itself....the verse...not the song. That's what we meant!

So the original 50s version is a non film song, and the later one is the same bhajan sung separately and released with ostensibly no connection to the earlier one (other than Meera Bai and Ashaji) .....There you have it.

I am even more confused now. How can that be called a re-release when only lyricist and singer remain the same and the tune and md and music are all diff? Am I missing something here? Got to borrow some intelligence from Ur mule Does no one have any info from the Bible of HFM--Geet Kosh?

Well, actually by definition, it cannot be in the "Bible of HFM--Geet Kosh" (sic)
since it is a non-film song (the "F" in HFM <img>javascript:emoticon(':)'</img>).
As for "Mai bairaagan ho gayi", thank god (IMO) for the 4 Asha/Jaidev bhajans,
cause the rest are quite bad, both in terms of composition and Asha's rendition.
I bought the original "Baala mai bairaagan ho gayi" and was supremely
disappointed, possibly with the exception of 1 song which was passable (all in
my not-so-humble opinion of course).
The Asha/Jaidev bhajans:
1. Tumul kolaahal
2. Aali ri mere
3. Kaise unko paooN aali (my favorite of these)
4. Na mai laDi thhi
are excellently rendered by Asha and wonderful tunes as well.

Long story short, I have added no value to this discussion. Sorry.

As for the semantic differences between a re-release v/s a re-make v/s a
re-something else, I think I will stay out of that one for now.javascript:emoticon(';)')

Melaard!!! it has not yet been proved that this is a non film song--must ask some of my older friends on yahoo sks.
Well I would not berate the songs of Bala... that much--they are passable imo. One or 2 are quite nice--of course nothing that hooks one--the difference is really so apparent when one plays the old version of phagun ke din and the later one--Ashaji has worked wonders with songs even in her 60s so cannot put it down to age--she has lifted some pretty mediocre compositions to greatness in her time so cannot blame the compositions too but they lack that special something.
Ya I too have half agreed and half disagreed with what u have said all to no point and carrying the discussion no further.
Think it is time to ul the 2 versions. But my net is going at 4 kb for a change after a dismal 555 bytes last night and so am sitting fingers crossed face glued to the comp screen and dling like mad.
Tomorrow is after all another day

Spoke too soon. My net is soooo slow--whenever will I get broadband!!!!
Here come the songs. First the old version.

Here is the later version. Mds--usha and Meena Mangeshkar.
P

Some good old wisdom from my mule....

Discussion over semantics - Avoidable
2 Nice songs - Priceless

Sorry Priya no info on the song. Just heard it and I also feel it should be a 50's song. I am sure if this query is posted in RMIM would be resolved.
Anyway the older version is an excellent rare bhajan. Never heard before.

Mohd.

I am not part of RMIM--the group scares me!!! So many knowledgable people!!!
Great to be part of a forum where people still like the old versions in this age where everyone is keen on heavy instrumentation and 'beats' and stuff. Sometimes I really feel like a square peg in a round hole when I see the people of my age grp around. The other day i was singing in the kitchen and my friend comments--'U sound like someone from yesteryears--I cannot imagine U singing dhoom machale dhoom'!!!
P