Film:- Patita
Lyrics:- Shailendra
Music:- S.D.Burman
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HaiN Sabse Madhur Voh Geet JinheN, Hum Dard Ke Sur MeiN Gaate HaiN
Ham Dard Ke Sur MeiN Gaate HaiN
Jab Had Se Guzar Jati Hai Khushi, AaNsu Bhi Chhalakate Aate HaiN
AaNsu Bhi Chhalakate Aate HaiN
HaiN Sabse Madhur Voh Geet
Pahalu MeiN Paraaye Dard Basake, HaNsana HaNsana Seekh Zaraa
Tu HaNsana HaNsaana Seekh Zaraa
Toofan Se Kah De Ghir Ke Uthe, Hum Pyaar Ke Dip Jalaate HaiN
Hum Pyaar Ke Deep Jalaate HaiN
HaiN Sabse Madhur Voh Geet ...
KaNtoN MeiN Khile HaiN Phool Hamaare, RaNg Bhare AramanoN Ke
RaNg Bhare AramaanoN Ke
Nadan HaiN Jo In KaaNtoN Se, Daaman Ko Bachaaye Jaate HaiN
Daaman Ko Bachaaye Jaate HaiN
HaiN Sabse Madhur Voh Geet ...
Jab Gham Ka Andhera Ghir Aaye, Samajho Ke Savera Dur NahiiN
Samajho Ke Savera Dur NahiN
Har Raat Ki Hai Saugat Yahin, Tare Bhi Yahi Doharate HaiN
Tare Bhi Yahi Doharate HaiN
HaiN Sabse Madhur Vo Geet Jinhe Hum dard ke sur mein gaate hai
Hum dard ke sur mein gaate hai...
Hain Sabse Madhur Woh Geet
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Thanks Pinky
QUOTE(pinky @ Oct 19 2007, 03:18 PM) 
Jab Gham Ka Andhera Ghir Aaye, Samajho Ke Savera Dur NahiiN
Har Raat Ki Hai Saugat Yahin, Tare Bhi Yahi Doharate HaiN
"When it is dark enough you can see the stars".
Pinkz, your song selections are the best.
Besides Great lyrics,tune and that magical voice of Talat...this according to me is one of the best picturised songs , it has so much feeling.....Dev is dead and his wife played by Usha Kiran is waiting for him, she does'nt know that he is dead, then he comes (his soul)and sings this song....it has a dreamy quality to it..... lovely picturisation.. ..... 
Pinky, thank you for the lyrics of this wonderful song, I remember BC, this is one of your favorites too
Reeth,
I am afraid you got the story wrong... This is no ghost story...
. But I agree with you the picturization is wonderful. The story and the ensuing situation are much more powerful than that. Dev and Usha Kiran are in love and she is raped by s'one. (They sing that gorgeous Hemant Lata duet right at the beginning of the movie, "Yaad kiya dil ne kahan ho tum" ). She runs away and gives birth to a child and then returns, where, she realises that Dev is waiting for her and the rest of the story is how they come to terms with the tragedy and how Dev tries to heal her wounds. The song emerges out of this situation.
Considering the kind of double standards Hindi films have, especially when it comes to rape, this movie is a gem. First of all, rape is usually relegated to an incident that happens to the sister of the hero, who promptly waves a bottle of poison and conveniently dies. The hero then swears eternal vengeance and the movie often spins off into revenge drama.The social stigma and the issues emerging out of rape are thus made symbolic and get diverted into a question of honor, often male honor. (I can think of many Amitabh Bachchan/Vinod Khanna/Shatrughan Sinha films that used this plot.) A variation of this would be some c grade films where the victim does the revenge turn (I think Dimple did this for a film called Ghayal Sherni or some such), the focus is really on sensational violence where the social ramifications and the widespread prevalence of rape get diverted and localised into impossible or fantastic actions.
Here are some other resolutions that Hindi films offer if it does happen to the heroines:
Roti Kapda aur Makan: Moushami is raped by three men and has a child. Just before the movie ends, when it is assumed she will marry Manoj Kumar, the child is killed off in the skirmish between the hero and the villains and here's how her well-meaning father consoles her: "Jane do ...jo hua accha hua, paap ka bojha tha..." (something along these lines).
Rajput: Vinod Khanna and Ranjeeta are in love and she is raped by Ranjeet who is married and has a daughter as old as Ranjeeta. Ranjeeta disappears and has the child. When Vinod Khanna finds her she tries to run away from him saying she is "not Kabil" enough for him as she is no longer pure. Guess how Vinod Khanna resolves the situation: He hunts out Ranjeet and gets his girlfriend married to him. Honor, you see, is vindicated. The story becomes even more vulgar after this. Vinod then, under the eyes of a smiling/sad Ranjeeta then falls for Tina, the daughter of Ranjeet.
Apart from Ghar, Insaaf Ka Tarazu and Patita, I have not seen many films in mainstream Bollywood that deal with rape with any degree of sensitivity or any sense of reality for that matter.
Reeth,
I am afraid you got the story wrong... This is no ghost story...
. But I agree with you the picturization is wonderful. The story and the ensuing situation are much more powerful than that. Dev and Usha Kiran are in love and she is raped by s'one. (They sing that gorgeous Hemant Lata duet right at the beginning of the movie, "Yaad kiya dil ne kahan ho tum" ). She runs away and gives birth to a child and then returns, where, she realises that Dev is waiting for her and the rest of the story is how they come to terms with the tragedy and how Dev tries to heal her wounds. The song emerges out of this situation. Considering the kind of double standards Hindi films have, especially when it comes to rape, this movie is a gem. First of all, rape is usually relegated to an incident that happens to the sister of the hero, who promptly waves a bottle of poison and conveniently dies. The hero then swears eternal vengeance and the movie often spins off into revenge drama.The social stigma and the issues emerging out of rape are thus made symbolic and get diverted into a question of honor, often male honor. (I can think of many Amitabh Bachchan/Vinod Khanna/Shatrughan Sinha films that used this plot.) A variation of this would be some c grade films where the victim does the revenge turn (I think Dimple did this for a film called Ghayal Sherni or some such), the focus is really on sensational violence where the social ramifications and the widespread prevalence of rape get diverted and localised into impossible or fantastic actions.
Here are some other resolutions that Hindi films offer if it does happen to the heroines:
Roti Kapda aur Makan: Moushami is raped by three men and has a child. Just before the movie ends, when it is assumed she will marry Manoj Kumar, the child is killed off in the skirmish between the hero and the villains and here's how her well-meaning father consoles her: "Jane do ...jo hua accha hua, paap ka bojha tha..." (something along these lines).
Rajput: Vinod Khanna and Ranjeeta are in love and she is raped by Ranjeet who is married and has a daughter as old as Ranjeeta. Ranjeeta disappears and has the child. When Vinod Khanna finds her she tries to run away from him saying she is "not Kabil" enough for him as she is no longer pure. Guess how Vinod Khanna resolves the situation: He hunts out Ranjeet and gets his girlfriend married to him. Honor, you see, is vindicated. The story becomes even more vulgar after this. Vinod then, under the eyes of a smiling/sad Ranjeeta then falls for Tina, the daughter of Ranjeet.
Apart from Ghar, Insaaf Ka Tarazu and Patita, I have not seen many films in mainstream Bollywood that deal with rape with any degree of sensitivity or any sense of reality for that matter.
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I have not seen many films in mainstream Bollywood that deal with rape with any degree of sensitivity or any sense of reality for that matter.
I saw a couple more yesterday --- Call girl and Laage chunari men daag.
The first one a typical hindi film --- the girl ends her life as she cannot marry the hero, whose father was the reason for her to take up the world's oldest profession. (Surprisingly the hero's mother - Urmila Bhatt --- stands by the girl and says she is no sinner etc.. etc... )
The second movie was a bit too far fetched, but was fairly ok as far as handling the sensitivity of the issue.
QUOTE(pinky @ Oct 19 2007, 03:18 PM)
Film:- Patita
Lyrics:- Shailendra
Music:-
Pnky ji
Thanks for posting these great lyrics. there is one english poem also with similar wordings. cant recall !
from where you got thse screen shots?? or did you got it yourself??
BTY
MD is Shankar Jaikishan ! 
Sonu
QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ Oct 22 2007, 06:22 PM)
Considering the kind of double standards Hindi films have, especially when it comes to rape, this movie is a gem. First of all, rape is usually relegated to an incident that happens to the sister of the hero, who promptly waves a bottle of poison and conveniently dies. The hero then swears eternal vengeance and the movie often spins off into revenge drama.The social stigma and the issues emerging out of rape are thus made symbolic and get diverted into a question of honor, often male honor. (I can think of many Amitabh Bachchan/Vinod Khanna/Shatrughan Sinha films that used this plot.) A variation of this would be some c grade films where the victim does the revenge turn (I think Dimple did this for a film called Ghayal Sherni or some such), the focus is really on sensational violence where the social ramifications and the widespread prevalence of rape get diverted and localised into impossible or fantastic actions.
Here are some other resolutions that Hindi films offer if it does happen to the heroines:
Roti Kapda aur Makan: Moushami is raped by three men and has a child. Just before the movie ends, when it is assumed she will marry Manoj Kumar, the child is killed off in the skirmish between the hero and the villains and here's how her well-meaning father consoles her: "Jane do ...jo hua accha hua, paap ka bojha tha..." (something along these lines).
Rajput: Vinod Khanna and Ranjeeta are in love and she is raped by Ranjeet who is married and has a daughter as old as Ranjeeta. Ranjeeta disappears and has the child. When Vinod Khanna finds her she tries to run away from him saying she is "not Kabil" enough for him as she is no longer pure. Guess how Vinod Khanna resolves the situation: He hunts out Ranjeet and gets his girlfriend married to him. Honor, you see, is vindicated. The story becomes even more vulgar after this. Vinod then, under the eyes of a smiling/sad Ranjeeta then falls for Tina, the daughter of Ranjeet.
Apart from Ghar, Insaaf Ka Tarazu and Patita, I have not seen many films in mainstream Bollywood that deal with rape with any degree of sensitivity or any sense of reality for that matter.
Madhavi..that is one fine write up. I admire the way you put things. I have to learn this art from you. what you said is absolutely true. This kind of astigmatism in the films is despicable. The examples you gave are so true and the solution is so hilarious. I am glad that i havent seen any of them, except, ofcourse Patita. It was a nice film with a realistic touch, especially the songs blended into the story.
Another example i would like to quote is ...Yeh raste hai pyar ke..( Sunil dutt, leela naidu, Rehman ) .i saw that a fortnight before and i found the ending absolutely slimy. Even given the fact that it was made in sixties, the director shies away from the fact that the Heroine haunted by loneliness, fell for the charms of the wolf. He introduces the " sedative" effect, where the villain makes the heroine drink the milk laced with a barbiturate. sic..sic.. And she has to die, as she committed a sin. the only thing that saved the face of the film is Sunil dutt with his portrayal of agony .
Compared to that..i can quote the film " Unfaithful" starring Richard gere and Diane lane. I am sure you would have seen this. Diane lane was just brilliant as the older woman who fell for this latino..she sees the paramour with another girl, fights with him for a second before falling for him again !! Richard gere has to go and kill the wolf, albeit in agony...and that is it. Even they didnt had the courage to take up the matter to the end and find a plausible or reasonable end. How beautiful if some bold director might show..that a marriage is a bond which goes beyond the human frailties...?
Whew...i ate up space ...hope you and other ppl wont scold me for this.
QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ Oct 22 2007, 06:22 PM)
I am afraid you got the story wrong... This is no ghost story...
. 
Neither did Dev Anand look like one
QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ Oct 22 2007, 06:22 PM)
Pinky, thank you for the lyrics of this wonderful song, I remember BC, this is one of your favorites too
Reeth,
I am afraid you got the story wrong... This is no ghost story...
. But I agree with you the picturization is wonderful. The story and the ensuing situation are much more powerful than that. Dev and Usha Kiran are in love and she is raped by s'one. (They sing that gorgeous Hemant Lata duet right at the beginning of the movie, "Yaad kiya dil ne kahan ho tum" ). She runs away and gives birth to a child and then returns, where, she realises that Dev is waiting for her and the rest of the story is how they come to terms with the tragedy and how Dev tries to heal her wounds. The song emerges out of this situation.
Considering the kind of double standards Hindi films have, especially when it comes to rape, this movie is a gem. First of all, rape is usually relegated to an incident that happens to the sister of the hero, who promptly waves a bottle of poison and conveniently dies. The hero then swears eternal vengeance and the movie often spins off into revenge drama.The social stigma and the issues emerging out of rape are thus made symbolic and get diverted into a question of honor, often male honor. (I can think of many Amitabh Bachchan/Vinod Khanna/Shatrughan Sinha films that used this plot.) A variation of this would be some c grade films where the victim does the revenge turn (I think Dimple did this for a film called Ghayal Sherni or some such), the focus is really on sensational violence where the social ramifications and the widespread prevalence of rape get diverted and localised into impossible or fantastic actions.
Here are some other resolutions that Hindi films offer if it does happen to the heroines:
Roti Kapda aur Makan: Moushami is raped by three men and has a child. Just before the movie ends, when it is assumed she will marry Manoj Kumar, the child is killed off in the skirmish between the hero and the villains and here's how her well-meaning father consoles her: "Jane do ...jo hua accha hua, paap ka bojha tha..." (something along these lines).
Rajput: Vinod Khanna and Ranjeeta are in love and she is raped by Ranjeet who is married and has a daughter as old as Ranjeeta. Ranjeeta disappears and has the child. When Vinod Khanna finds her she tries to run away from him saying she is "not Kabil" enough for him as she is no longer pure. Guess how Vinod Khanna resolves the situation: He hunts out Ranjeet and gets his girlfriend married to him. Honor, you see, is vindicated. The story becomes even more vulgar after this. Vinod then, under the eyes of a smiling/sad Ranjeeta then falls for Tina, the daughter of Ranjeet.
Apart from Ghar, Insaaf Ka Tarazu and Patita, I have not seen many films in mainstream Bollywood that deal with rape with any degree of sensitivity or any sense of reality for that matter.
A piece of enriching reading.
I have not seen/met many people in my life who have better understanding
of Hindi cinema. Not many are able to make out accurate readings.
I remember a dilaogue from "Lage raho Munna bhai"
Professor to bahut dekhe, tumsa nahin dekha..........Vidya Balan bol rahi hai Munna ko
jo jel mein band hai.
Waise hi, movie fans to babut dekhe, ..........................
QUOTE(bawlachintu @ Oct 23 2007, 12:11 AM)
QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ Oct 22 2007, 06:22 PM)
I am afraid you got the story wrong... This is no ghost story...
. Neither did Dev Anand look like oneMadhavi, i saw this movie last year and as far as i can remember Dev Anand has an accident and he is presumed dead and Usha kiran is waiting for him at the dinner table and then either she dreams about this song or he comes, she has to go through a lot of hardships and finally there is long drawn out court proceeding , then finally at the end of the movie Dev anad who was presumed dead all along makes an appearance......
QUOTE(bawlachintu @ Oct 22 2007, 12:07 AM)
Thanks Pinky
welcome bc
QUOTE(noorie @ Oct 22 2007, 08:39 AM)
QUOTE(pinky @ Oct 19 2007, 03:18 PM)
Jab Gham Ka Andhera Ghir Aaye, Samajho Ke Savera Dur NahiiN
Har Raat Ki Hai Saugat Yahin, Tare Bhi Yahi Doharate HaiN
"When it is dark enough you can see the stars".
Pinkz, your song selections are the best.
Thanx noorie, i love this song,it is so touching..
QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ Oct 22 2007, 06:22 PM)
Pinky, thank you for the lyrics of this wonderful song, I remember BC, this is one of your favorites too
Reeth,
I am afraid you got the story wrong... This is no ghost story...
. But I agree with you the picturization is wonderful. The story and the ensuing situation are much more powerful than that. Dev and Usha Kiran are in love and she is raped by s'one. (They sing that gorgeous Hemant Lata duet right at the beginning of the movie, "Yaad kiya dil ne kahan ho tum" ). She runs away and gives birth to a child and then returns, where, she realises that Dev is waiting for her and the rest of the story is how they come to terms with the tragedy and how Dev tries to heal her wounds. The song emerges out of this situation. Considering the kind of double standards Hindi films have, especially when it comes to rape, this movie is a gem. First of all, rape is usually relegated to an incident that happens to the sister of the hero, who promptly waves a bottle of poison and conveniently dies. The hero then swears eternal vengeance and the movie often spins off into revenge drama.The social stigma and the issues emerging out of rape are thus made symbolic and get diverted into a question of honor, often male honor. (I can think of many Amitabh Bachchan/Vinod Khanna/Shatrughan Sinha films that used this plot.) A variation of this would be some c grade films where the victim does the revenge turn (I think Dimple did this for a film called Ghayal Sherni or some such), the focus is really on sensational violence where the social ramifications and the widespread prevalence of rape get diverted and localised into impossible or fantastic actions.
Here are some other resolutions that Hindi films offer if it does happen to the heroines:
Roti Kapda aur Makan: Moushami is raped by three men and has a child. Just before the movie ends, when it is assumed she will marry Manoj Kumar, the child is killed off in the skirmish between the hero and the villains and here's how her well-meaning father consoles her: "Jane do ...jo hua accha hua, paap ka bojha tha..." (something along these lines).
Rajput: Vinod Khanna and Ranjeeta are in love and she is raped by Ranjeet who is married and has a daughter as old as Ranjeeta. Ranjeeta disappears and has the child. When Vinod Khanna finds her she tries to run away from him saying she is "not Kabil" enough for him as she is no longer pure. Guess how Vinod Khanna resolves the situation: He hunts out Ranjeet and gets his girlfriend married to him. Honor, you see, is vindicated. The story becomes even more vulgar after this. Vinod then, under the eyes of a smiling/sad Ranjeeta then falls for Tina, the daughter of Ranjeet.
Apart from Ghar, Insaaf Ka Tarazu and Patita, I have not seen many films in mainstream Bollywood that deal with rape with any degree of sensitivity or any sense of reality for that matter.
Than you madhavi
QUOTE(oye_sonu @ Oct 22 2007, 08:59 PM)
QUOTE(pinky @ Oct 19 2007, 03:18 PM)
Film:- Patita
Lyrics:- Shailendra
Music:-
Pnky ji
Thanks for posting these great lyrics. there is one english poem also with similar wordings. cant recall !
from where you got thse screen shots?? or did you got it yourself??
BTY
MD is Shankar Jaikishan ! Sonu
You are most welcome,Plz don't be so formal Sonu call me pinky(no Ji)..
I got the screen shots from youtube
QUOTE(Reeth @ Oct 22 2007, 11:28 AM)
Besides Great lyrics,tune and that magical voice of Talat...this according to me is one of the best picturised songs , it has so much feeling.....Dev is dead and his wife played by Usha Kiran is waiting for him, she does'nt know that he is dead, then he comes (his soul)and sings this song....it has a dreamy quality to it..... lovely picturisation.. .....
I agree,It is such a lovely song.
QUOTE(pinky @ Oct 23 2007, 07:13 PM)
I got the screen shots from youtube
Thanks for reply. Pinky can you telll me in brief the procedure. coz your screen shots were clear and good !
it it via print screen command???
Sonu
QUOTE(oye_sonu @ Oct 23 2007, 09:20 PM)
QUOTE(pinky @ Oct 23 2007, 07:13 PM)
I got the screen shots from youtube
Thanks for reply. Pinky can you telll me in brief the procedure. coz your screen shots were clear and good !
it it via print screen command???
Sonu
Sonu,I am hardly an expert, learnt through trial and error.
Yes print screen/paint/ctrl+v/save
QUOTE(pinky @ Oct 23 2007, 09:38 PM)
QUOTE(oye_sonu @ Oct 23 2007, 09:20 PM)
QUOTE(pinky @ Oct 23 2007, 07:13 PM)
I got the screen shots from youtube
Thanks for reply. Pinky can you telll me in brief the procedure. coz your screen shots were clear and good !
it it via print screen command???
Sonu
Sonu,I am hardly an expert, learnt through trial and error.
Yes print screen/paint/ctrl+v/save
Thanks for info Pinky. I tried few pics yesterday. Ab apoon sab apni fav actress ka snapshots bana rela hai
( j Jking ! )BTY those intersted in joining a Shailendra yahoo grp can join it at the folliwong link
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/shailendra/
Sonu
QUOTE(oye_sonu @ Oct 26 2007, 10:41 PM)
QUOTE(pinky @ Oct 23 2007, 09:38 PM)
QUOTE(oye_sonu @ Oct 23 2007, 09:20 PM)
QUOTE(pinky @ Oct 23 2007, 07:13 PM)
I got the screen shots from youtube
Thanks for reply. Pinky can you telll me in brief the procedure. coz your screen shots were clear and good !
it it via print screen command???
Sonu
Sonu,I am hardly an expert, learnt through trial and error.
Yes print screen/paint/ctrl+v/save
Thanks for info Pinky. I tried few pics yesterday. Ab apoon sab apni fav actress ka snapshots bana rela hai
( j Jking ! )BTY those intersted in joining a Shailendra yahoo grp can join it at the folliwong link
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/shailendra/
Sonu
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