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Remembering Sanjeev Kumar on his Birth anniversary

By IndiaFM News Bureau, July 9, 2007 - 14:52 IST

9 July, 1938 saw the birth of one of the finest actors in Hindi Cinema- Harihar Zariwala aka Sanjeev Kumar. Today on his 69th Birth Anniversary, IndiaFM speaks to people from the film fraternity who were either associated with him or who were influenced by his acting prowess.

Mala Sinha:
“He was a very sensitive actor, he never acted- he just became the character. But off-screen he was very child-like; he dropped by at our place unannounced one day and declared that he would have lunch with us. My Baba was embarrassed because we are fish-eaters and we had nothing much to offer a Gujarati vegetarian! But he assured us that he didn't mind eating fish at all. He ate heartily picking out fish-bones as deftly as we do.”

Yash Chopra:
“My film Silsila is special because it has immortal moments. For Rekha's husband I wanted Sanjeev Kumar, but he wasn't willing. After Sholayand Trishul he wasn't willing to play second fiddle to a script that focused on Amitabh Bachchan. He wasn't willing to even listen to the story, but I insisted and followed him to Bangalore. We were half-way through the narration and I was telling him of the restaurant scene when Jaya and Amitabh take the dance floor and Sanjeev asks me to stop. He stopped me, phoned his secretary to check his dates and said he was doing the film.”

Moushmi Chatterjee:
“Sanjeev Kumar was my favorite co-star who played my hero, father and brother-in-law in different films.

Rajpal Yadav:
“I want to become like Sanjeev Kumar. He had great comic timing and regaled people in films like Angoor and Swarag Narak but he also possessed the chameleon-like ability to become the character he portrayed. Nobody laughed at his entry in Sholay because he personified a duty-bound police officer. Then, take Koshish for instance. His heart-rendering portrayal of a deaf and dumb father brings tears to our eyes even today. I want to cast myself in the same mould.”

Seema Deo:
I was scared to work with Sanjeev Kumar in Yehi Hai Zindagi and told him “Aap mujhe sambhaal lena.” He smiled and said, "But I am your fan."

Subhash Ghai:
“Sanjeev Kumar was one of the finest actors I have ever worked with. He was one of those heroes who would play many characters at one time. He could change get ups and colours. He was a dear and honest person. He was a delight for any director to work with. He has given some very memorable performances. He was a very good-hearted person. He used to give money to small producers to complete the shooting of the film. He died unmarried but he was a constant lover..”

A K Hangal:
“He used to work in theatre and I have directed him on stage. We never went to each other's house, but we still loved each other. We never showed it to each other. When he died I did not get out of the house for a long time. I did not eat for two days. I have never cried for anybody's death, but I cried for Sanjeev's. He had a very sublime personality. He was of a good nature. He was not the showy types. He was a very good actor.

I used to smoke in those days and even he was a smoker. I asked him for a cigarette one day. He didn't say anything but went 10-20 feet away from me and stood in a corner and gave me a cigarette there. I wondered why he was doing that to me. Then I realized I used to give him cigarettes in the same way when he was kadkaa (ran out of money). So, that was why he was taking revenge from me.”

Interesting facts:
Dharmendra wanted to enact the role of Thakur in Sholay. Ramesh Sippy then said that Sanjeev Kumar would get the role of Veeru then and would get to romance Hema Malini. Knowing Sanjeev's softness for Hema, Dharmendra immediately signed for the part of Veeru and his character is remembered even today.

Sanjeev won two National Awards for Best Actor in Dastak (1970) and Koshish (1972).

In the 80s, he stopped taking care of his looks and became quite obese which eventually lead to his death following a heart-attack on 6 November, 1985.


With inputs from Screen India


noorie
QUOTE(Dimple @ Jul 11 2007, 11:05 AM) *


Interesting facts:
Dharmendra wanted to enact the role of Thakur in Sholay. Ramesh Sippy then said that Sanjeev Kumar would get the role of Veeru then and would get to romance Hema Malini.
Knowing Sanjeev's softness for Hema, Dharmendra immediately signed for the part of Veeru and his character is remembered even today.



What was Dharam so afraid of? blink.gif

Noorie

YaarMere
Never rated SK, bit of a geek if you know wot I mean.
NATURE
QUOTE(YaarMere @ Jul 16 2007, 06:39 PM) *

Never rated SK, bit of a geek if you know wot I mean.

who/what is geek ? sk or "yr comment" ?
harihar
QUOTE(YaarMere @ Jul 16 2007, 05:39 PM) *

Never rated SK, bit of a geek if you know wot I mean.

Sorry I have to disagree with you here YM, he was a class actor, pity he did not get his due/notice.

His track says it all.

Well done Dimple to bring this actor to everyone's notice.

He did lose out in love.
noorie
QUOTE(harihar @ Jul 16 2007, 10:38 PM) *

QUOTE(YaarMere @ Jul 16 2007, 05:39 PM) *

Never rated SK, bit of a geek if you know wot I mean.


He did lose out in love.



If the 'stories' are 2 be believed, he didn't suffer much.

Noorie
noorie
QUOTE(harihar @ Jul 16 2007, 10:38 PM) *

QUOTE(YaarMere @ Jul 16 2007, 05:39 PM) *

Never rated SK, bit of a geek if you know wot I mean.

Sorry I have to disagree with you here YM, he was a class actor



What if that was meant in a complimentary fashion?

Noorie
harihar
QUOTE(noorie @ Jul 16 2007, 11:14 PM) *

QUOTE(harihar @ Jul 16 2007, 10:38 PM) *

QUOTE(YaarMere @ Jul 16 2007, 05:39 PM) *

Never rated SK, bit of a geek if you know wot I mean.

Sorry I have to disagree with you here YM, he was a class actor



What if that was meant in a complimentary fashion?

Noorie

If it was then I will only apologise as Cyborg advises without starting questionable answers/reply! As I thought you questioned Quote who/what is geek ? sk or "yr comment" ?unquote So you are inferring you knew what geek meant as well as his comment
noorie
QUOTE(harihar @ Jul 17 2007, 12:25 AM) *


If it was then I will only apologise as Cyborg advises without starting questionable answers/reply! As I thought you questioned Quote who/what is geek ? sk or "yr comment" ?unquote So you are inferring you knew what geek meant as well as his comment.



A single word may have a thousand different connotations, and it’s very important to make oneself familiar with all of them; that was the gist of my last post.

Noorie
YaarMere
QUOTE(NATURE @ Jul 16 2007, 05:57 PM) *

QUOTE(YaarMere @ Jul 16 2007, 06:39 PM) *

Never rated SK, bit of a geek if you know wot I mean.

who/what is geek ? sk or "yr comment" ?


Your 1st Q makes your 2nd Q redundant and regarding your 1st Q, those who can do, do, and those who cant teach... go ask sum1 else to teach you a 4eign language and start off with English.
Mandrake
So Dimple, are we going to read more about this fantastic actor here, or do we again have to suffer unwanted spam? biggrin.gif
jassi
grt actor
yob
QUOTE(jassi @ Jul 17 2007, 10:34 AM) *

grt actor



my all time fav--sanjeev kumar and moti lal.
bawlachintu
Good thread. Thanks Dimple.
harihar
Sanjeev Kumar was one of those few actor-stars to whom the role meant more than anything in the world. He was willing to play any character of any age in a film, even if it wasn't the lead role, provided the role challenged his acting abilities which of course were considerable. In that sense he chose to tread the path set down by other actor-stars such as Motilal and Balraj Sahni and rewrote many of the conventions of Bollywood rather than follow the conventional star system.

He was born Harihar Jariwala into a traditional Gujarati family living in a tenement in Mumbai. After dabbling in theatre, he joined the Filmalaya Acting School and did his first role, a bit role in Filmalaya's Hum Hindustani (1960). The Rajshris auditioned him for Aarti (1962) opposite Meena Kumari but he flopped in the audition and was rejected.

Sanjeev Kumar's first film as hero, Nishana (1965),was a B-grade swashbuckler and many of his earlier films were of the same ilk opposite starlets like Kum Kum. But they were popular nevertheless and Sanjeev more than made his mark in them. He was first noticed in a big way in Sanghash (1968) where he was pitted against Dilip Kumar and more than held his own in the scenes they did together. (In fact many thought he scored over Dilip Kumar in the scenes they did together) Slowly he began getting leading roles opposite top actresses like Nutan, Waheeda Rehman and Mala Sinha.

Khilona (1970) made Sanjeev Kumar into a star. But again what stood out in the film was was his outstanding acting. He was absolutely spot-on as a mentally imbalanced man who is helped back to sanity by a prostitute hired to nurse him. The same year also saw him deliver a fine performance in Dastak, matching Rehana Sultan's National Award winning performance scene for scene and winning his first National Award as Best Actor.

In spite of being a star, Sanjeev Kumar still opted for roles that were off the beaten track in films like Anubhav (1971) though it must be mentioned here that good as he was in the film, it was Tanuja who walked off with the film. He also consolidated his position meanwhile in the mainstream with hits like Seeta Aur Geeta (1972) and Manchali (1973).

Parichay (1972) and Koshish (1972), which won him a second National Award, brought him into contact with their director, Gulzar. Thus started a mutually beneficial partnership that saw some of Sanjeev Kumar's finest work as an actor. He played a deaf and dumb man in the latter and it is amazing to watch him emote having internalized his feelings without the help of dialogue and his performance is screen acting at its very best. The scene where he thinks his child is also deaf since he is not responding to a faulty rattle or the scene where he castigates his son for refusing to marry a handicapped girl show a supreme actor at the peak of his histionic talent. The Gulzar - Sanjeev Kumar partnership resulted in such fine films as Aandhi (1975), Mausam (1975), Angoor (1981) and Namkeen (1982) with strong Sanjeev Kumar performances in each of them.

Sanjeev Kumar was one actor who improved his performance tremendously at the dubbing stage with his marvelous voice control. The quiver in his emotionally saturated voice was as important an element of his acting as small casual getsures like running his hand down his neck. He never minded dyeing his hair if the role required it and even played much older men in films like Aandhi, Mausam, Sholay (1975) and Trishul (1978). In fact in Sholay he played Jaya Bhaduri's father-in-law. This after playing her lover in Koshish and Anamika (1973) and her father in Parichay! And despite making his reputation as a serious actor, he showed a great flair for the light-hearted in films like Manchali, Manoranjan (1974), Pati Patni Aur Woh (1978) and Angoor. Films like Naya Din Nayi Raat (1974) wherein he played multiple roles further showcased his acting talent and versatility.

In 1977 Sanjeev Kumar had an opportunity to work with the great Satyajit Ray when the latter made his first film outside Bengal, Shatranj ke Khiladi (1977). The film features delightful performances by Saeed Jaffrrey and Sanjeev Kumar as Mir and Mirza respectively, so utterly absorbed in their game of chess that Mirza neglects his wife while Mir's wife has an affair right under his unsuspecting nose! When Lucknow falls to the British, they leave for an abandoned mosque on the outskirts of the city to play in peace! It is a delightfully nuanced performance under a great director.

Unfortunately by the 1980s, Sanjeev Kumar had grown extremely careless with his looks and had let himself bloat up. Among his later lot of films the only two that really stand out are Vidhaata (1982), which again brought him face to face with Dilip Kumar (Again he scored over the thespian in the one major confrontation scene they had in the film) and Hero(1983), both directed by Subhash Ghai.

A bachelor, Sanjeev Kumar died of an acute heart ailment in 1985. It is ironic that someone who had played so many elderly roles, himself didn't even live to be fifty...


Memorable Films

Sangharsh (1968)

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Dastak (1970)

Khilona (1970)

Anubhav (1971)

Koshish (1972)

Seeta Aur Geeta (1972)

Anamika (1973)

Manchali (1973)

Aap ki Kasam (1974)

Manoranjan (1974)

Naya Din Nayi Raat (1974)

Aandhi (1975)

Mausam (1975)

Sholay (1975)

Zindagi (1976)

Shatranj ke Khiladi (1977)

Pati Patni Aur Woh (1978)

Trishul (1978)

Grihapravesh (1979)

Angoor (1981)

Silsila (1981)

Namkeen (1982)

Vidhaata (1982)

Hero (1983)

Courtesy US
NATURE
QUOTE(YaarMere @ Jul 17 2007, 05:47 AM) *

Your 1st Q makes your 2nd Q redundant and regarding your 1st Q, those who can do, do, and those who cant
teach... go ask sum1 else to teach you a 4eign language and start off with English.

thank u, it's so nice of you.
i knew u don't have any answer so u will begin with foreign language, english, staffs like this. biggrin.gif

geek(about someone): a peculier, dislikable person or someone who is overly intellectual.
extend this to something, then we can say: something(yr comment) is peculier, dislikable or overly
intellectual. it's easy to understand, it may not be grammatically correct but logically it makes sense. laugh.gif

aur vaise bhi sanjeev kumar ko appreciate karne ke liye itnaa to pataa honaa chaahiye ki abhinay
kya hotaa hai. jinko acting ka a tak nahi pataa voh kya appreciate karenge. tongue1.gif

QUOTE(noorie @ Jul 16 2007, 04:57 PM) *

What was Dharam so afraid of? blink.gif

Noorie

sk had never married after he was heartbroken from the rejection of his marriage proposal by hema malini.
dharam ji kaise bardhaast kar sakte the ki unki real love ke saath sk onscreeen romance kare ?

QUOTE(harihar @ Jul 17 2007, 01:01 PM) *

He was first noticed in a big way in Sanghash (1968) where he was pitted against Dilip Kumar and more
than held his own in the scenes they did together. (In fact many thought he scored over Dilip Kumar in the
scenes they did together)

Among his later lot of films the only two that really stand out are Vidhaata (1982), which again brought him
face to face with Dilip Kumar (Again he scored over the thespian in the one major confrontation scene they
had in the film) and Hero(1983), both directed by Subhash Ghai.

ofcourse he did. agar acting ki baat kare to sanjeev kumar was far ahead of all other kumars.
gulzar saheb ko poochhiye, voh bataayenge sk ki abhinay pratibhaa.

-----------------------------------------

He was always ready to take unconventional roles that challenged him as an actor. He played Mirza, a
chess-obsessed Lucknowi (citizen of Lucknow), in independent filmmaker Satyajit Ray's Shatranj Ke Khiladi
(1977). Perhaps his best-remembered roles were in the blockbuster films Sholay (1975) and Trishul (1978).
He was such a versatile actor that he performed NINE different rolls simultaneously in the film "Naya Din
Nayi Raat". Nobody in the world might have attained such an achievement.

He started working with the well-known director Gulzar in the early 1970s. He did nine films for Gulzar,
including Aandhi (1975), Mausam (1975), Angoor (1981) and Namkeen (1982). Many of his fans believe that
these are some of the best films that he did.

10 of his already completed films were released after his death with his final film Professor Ki Padosan
releasing in 1993. After his death this film was only 75% complete and it was decided to alter the story in
the second half of the film to explain Sanjeev Kumar's character's absence. One of his other notable
releases after his death was K. Asif's much delayed Love and God which was over 20 years in the making.
After director K. Asif died in 1971, production came to a halt and the film finally released in incomplete form
in 1986, one year after Sanjeev Kumar himself had also died.


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Courtesy: Wikipedia
Dimple
Thank you Harihar for the detailed article you added smile1.gif
YaarMere
QUOTE(NATURE @ Jul 17 2007, 08:31 AM) *


ofcourse he did. agar acting ki baat kare to sanjeev kumar was far ahead of all other kumars.


I suppose he was behind only 1 Bachchan or 3 is it now.
Mandrake
Bachchan was a star. Sanjeev was an actor.
Cannot be compared.
Ashraf
Sanjeev Kumar is one of few actors from bollywood who is rated high and respected for the acting skills by us southies.Surely way ahead of the khans/Bachans and Kapoors.
harihar
QUOTE(Ashraf @ Jul 17 2007, 09:21 PM) *

Sanjeev Kumar is one of few actors from bollywood who is rated high and respected for the acting skills by us southies.Surely way ahead of the khans/Bachans and Kapoors.

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desai2rn
QUOTE(Ashraf @ Jul 17 2007, 09:21 PM) *

Sanjeev Kumar is one of few actors from bollywood who is rated high and respected for the acting skills by us southies.Surely way ahead of the khans/Bachans and Kapoors.



Even the great Dilipkumar had high regard for his acting. After initial misgiving he had praised his acting
in Sangarsh in which they came togather for the first time.


Reeth
QUOTE(desai2rn @ Jul 18 2007, 12:27 AM) *

QUOTE(Ashraf @ Jul 17 2007, 09:21 PM) *

Sanjeev Kumar is one of few actors from bollywood who is rated high and respected for the acting skills by us southies.Surely way ahead of the khans/Bachans and Kapoors.



Even the great Dilipkumar had high regard for his acting. After initial misgiving he had praised his acting
in Sangarsh in which they came togather for the first time.



I think he was at par with Ashok Kumar and Balraj Sahni......
YaarMere
Look, all I'm saying is that if we were to follow Ocean's model and make sumthing like 'Rafi's Fifteen' one wudnt give SK a big part. You'd have him in the film of course you wud but you'd keep his role to a min. Thatz all Im saying.
desai2rn
QUOTE(YaarMere @ Jul 18 2007, 05:36 PM) *

Look, all I'm saying is that if we were to follow Ocean's model and make sumthing like 'Rafi's Fifteen' one wudnt give SK a big part. You'd have him in the film of course you wud but you'd keep his role to a min. Thatz all Im saying.


That is simply a matter of opinion. Give him a half way decent role and he will make most of the others
look like midgets. Now that may be one reason why they would keep his role to a minimum!

YaarMere
QUOTE(desai2rn @ Jul 18 2007, 04:58 PM) *



That is simply a matter of opinion. Give him a half way decent role and he will make most of the others
look like midgets. Now that may be one reason why they would keep his role to a minimum!


Fine, but then dont turn this into a '4 the opinionated by the opinionated' kinda thing.
Mandrake
Sanjeev was probably in the top 5 of the best actors of all time. I've watched him at a function where he came on stage in a simple kurta-pyjama. The compere urged him to show a 'jhalak' to the spectators, and asked him what would happen if he were on the beach.

Sanjeev thought for a moment, and suddenly broke into an impromptu take-off on a general-wares peddler who hawks anything from imitation jewellery to plastic toys.
He was so good, that we completely forgot that he was an actor! The tone, the choice of words, the modulation of voice, the body language...mind blowing!
NATURE
QUOTE(YaarMere @ Jul 16 2007, 06:39 PM) *

Never rated SK, bit of a geek if you know wot I mean.

this is what you said.

QUOTE(YaarMere @ Jul 18 2007, 06:36 PM) *

Look, all I'm saying is that if we were to follow Ocean's model and make sumthing like 'Rafi's Fifteen'
one wudnt give SK a big part. You'd have him in the film of course you wud but you'd keep his role to a min.
Thatz all Im saying.

this is what u r saying now. r u changing yr mind ? or u think it's all the same ?
u better learn foreign language and start off with english ... jump.gif rotate2.gif

QUOTE(Mandrake @ Jul 19 2007, 12:32 AM) *

Sanjeev was probably in the top 5 of the best actors of all time. I've watched him at a function where he
came on stage in a simple kurta-pyjama. The compere urged him to show a 'jhalak' to the spectators, and
asked him what would happen if he were on the beach.

Sanjeev thought for a moment, and suddenly broke into an impromptu take-off on a general-wares peddler
who hawks anything from imitation jewellery to plastic toys.
He was so good, that we completely forgot that he was an actor! The tone, the choice of words, the
modulation of voice, the body language...mind blowing!

great !!! you remember that scene in angoor where he expresses the situation of the horror story by
his body language ? wasn't it awesome ?

btw, who are the 5 best actors of all times as you said ? smile.gif
Mandrake
Arrey Nature babua, it's a manner of speaking doh.gif What if I said he was the best actor ever and someone picked up a fight with me?
I don't want anybody's blood on my hands, ok? wink2.gif poseur.gif
YaarMere
QUOTE(NATURE @ Jul 19 2007, 07:44 AM) *

QUOTE(YaarMere @ Jul 16 2007, 06:39 PM) *

Never rated SK, bit of a geek if you know wot I mean.

this is what you said.

QUOTE(YaarMere @ Jul 18 2007, 06:36 PM) *

Look, all I'm saying is that if we were to follow Ocean's model and make sumthing like 'Rafi's Fifteen'
one wudnt give SK a big part. You'd have him in the film of course you wud but you'd keep his role to a min.
Thatz all Im saying.

this is what u r saying now. r u changing yr mind ? or u think it's all the same ?
u better learn foreign language and start off with english ... jump.gif rotate2.gif




My dear fellow you answered the wrong post... you were meant to reply to postNo 18.

You wanna know wot geek is? A geek is uncool, a geek is sum1 who isnt fun and sum1 who is a bore... basically a geek is sum1 who is you, Nature. Dont let it worry you tho, you're in great company, you're with SK.
cYb0rG
QUOTE
You wanna know wot geek is? A geek is uncool, a geek is sum1 who isnt fun and sum1 who is a bore... basically a geek is sum1 who is you, Nature. Dont let it worry you tho, you're in great company, you're with SK.


Member - YaarMere - Your this post has been reported as conveying indirect insult both to the personality and a member. There is no excuse for such repeated posts. You lose your posting rights for an indefinite period.

Admin.
oye_sonu
sad.gif kya yaar Birth day thread ko kya bana diya. !

Just to show your artist better people tend to show others down. no One can deny Balraj, Dilip kumar, Sanjeev kumar, Ashok kumar , Amitabh etc have been v good actors. Yaar har ek ki awaz alag, style alag. kis role ko kon suit karega.......yeh acting ke alawa dusre factors per bhi depend karta hai.

we cant compare them like this. they belonged to diff period, got diff types of movies. each had some edge coz of type of movies tht were made in those periods.


ask naseeuddin shah.........he rates Shammi kapoor and Sanjeev kuamar v highly.

Yaaro kamse kam Kisi ke anniversary ka to dhayan rakh liya karo.


Slightly off topic

A REQUEST :

I have noticed people TEND to show off their language superiority w r t others. and there are LOT of members in this category . They tend to play more with words then write on topic often ignoring facts etc. I love great articles etc. but finally what matters is how much you love music. what your views are - balanced or baised, how much you respect artists etc. who cares for good language if your views are baised or demean artists/ members??


I would love to learn fine points of language (hindi/eglish) tongue1.gif Iam already active in 10+ forums- political, music etc. will be beneficial for me as Iam myself not good in them. unsure.gif



open to corrections


Sonu
NATURE
oye_sonu ji, aapne bilqool sahi farmaayaa. main bhi sharmindaa hoon
main YaarMere, Admin aur hf ke sabhi sadasya se mwaaphi maangtaa hoon. aashaa kartaa hoon
log is topic ko phirse sunehraa banaayege sanjeev kumar ke kisse batlaake.

QUOTE(oye_sonu @ Jul 22 2007, 12:58 PM) *

open to corrections


Sonu

"open to corrections" aapkaa siggi hai ya aap topic ko madde nazar rakhte huye
ye vaakya likhte hai ? tongue1.gif (bas aise hee poochh liyaa biggrin.gif )
--------------------------------------------

Sanjeev Kumar was one actor who improved his performance tremendously at the dubbing stage with his
marvelous voice control. The quiver in his emotionally saturated voice was as important an element of his
acting as small casual getsures like running his hand down his neck. He never minded dyeing his hair if the
role required it and even played much older men in films like Aandhi, Mausam, Sholay (1975) and Trishul
(1978). In fact in Sholay he played Jaya Bhaduri's father-in-law. This after playing her lover in Koshish and
Anamika (1973) and her father in Parichay! And despite making his reputation as a serious actor, he showed
a great flair for the light-hearted in films like Manchali, Manoranjan (1974), Pati Patni Aur Woh (1978) and
Angoor. Films like Naya Din Nayi Raat (1974) wherein he played multiple roles further showcased his acting
talent and versatility.

In 1977 Sanjeev Kumar had an opportunity to work with the great Satyajit Ray when the latter made his first
film outside Bengal, Shatranj ke Khiladi (1977). The film features delightful performances by Saeed Jaffrrey
and Sanjeev Kumar as Mir and Mirza respectively, so utterly absorbed in their game of chess that Mirza
neglects his wife while Mir's wife has an affair right under his unsuspecting nose! When Lucknow falls to the
British, they leave for an abandoned mosque on the outskirts of the city to play in peace! It is a delightfully
nuanced performance under a great director.

Unfortunately by the 1980s, Sanjeev Kumar had grown extremely careless with his looks and had let
himself bloat up. Among his later lot of films the only two that really stand out are Vidhaata (1982), which
again brought him face to face with Dilip Kumar (Again he scored over the thespian in the one major
confrontation scene they had in the film) and Hero(1983), both directed by Subhash Ghai.
oye_sonu
QUOTE(NATURE @ Jul 23 2007, 11:03 AM) *

oye_sonu ji, aapne bilqool sahi farmaayaa. main bhi sharmindaa hoon
main YaarMere, Admin aur hf ke sabhi sadasya se mwaaphi maangtaa hoon. aashaa kartaa hoon
log is topic ko phirse sunehraa banaayege sanjeev kumar ke kisse batlaake.

QUOTE(oye_sonu @ Jul 22 2007, 12:58 PM) *

open to corrections


Sonu

"open to corrections" aapkaa siggi hai ya aap topic ko madde nazar rakhte huye
ye vaakya likhte hai ? tongue1.gif (bas aise hee poochh liyaa biggrin.gif )



Natoorey bhai( this is how I pronnounce "natu re" tongue1.gif ) Yahan per koi fit nehi hai. even main bhi learn kar raha hon. aur kuch na kuch galat likhta hoon. hamesha apne ko correct karne ke lye tayar hoon. yahan Alaam yeh hai ki humsab HAARNE ke liye tayar nehi rehte. ( not ready to accept our mistke ! )

issliye jahan per lagta hai ki shayad mein galat ho sakta hoon ........wahan likh dete hain.

Regards

Sonu



nasir
QUOTE(noorie @ Jul 16 2007, 03:57 PM) *

QUOTE(Dimple @ Jul 11 2007, 11:05 AM) *


Interesting facts:
Dharmendra wanted to enact the role of Thakur in Sholay. Ramesh Sippy then said that Sanjeev Kumar would get the role of Veeru then and would get to romance Hema Malini.
Knowing Sanjeev's softness for Hema, Dharmendra immediately signed for the part of Veeru and his character is remembered even today.



What was Dharam so afraid of? blink.gif

Noorie



laugh.gif Apart from Dharmendra, Sanjeev Kumar and Jeetendra were also in the list of hot suitors.


NASIR.
nasir
QUOTE(desai2rn @ Jul 18 2007, 12:27 AM) *

QUOTE(Ashraf @ Jul 17 2007, 09:21 PM) *

Sanjeev Kumar is one of few actors from bollywood who is rated high and respected for the acting skills by us southies.Surely way ahead of the khans/Bachans and Kapoors.



Even the great Dilipkumar had high regard for his acting. After initial misgiving he had praised his acting
in Sangarsh in which they came togather for the first time.



To say that Sanjeev Kumar was way ahead of the Khans (Dilip Kumar excluded) etc., is okay. Not to forget that Dilip Kumar had agreed to give a background voice as encouragement to him in NAYA DIN NAYI RAAT. As far as praising of Sanjeev Kumar by Dilip Kumar is concerned, I remember having read that the Thespian rang up Sanjeev congratulating him on his great performance in TRISHUL.

It has become a fashion to bring up Sanjeev Kumar's performance in VIDHATA in comparison with that of Dilip Kumar in one particular scene. That scene must be seen and understood in context of the entire story and movie. The context demanded a very low profile from the guilt-ridden, conscious-stricken Shobraj/Shamsher singh (Dilip Kumar) as against the preachings and admonitions of Abu Baba (Sanjeev Kumar). That's it.

NASIR.
noorie
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QUOTE(Dimple @ Jul 11 2007, 11:05 AM) *


Interesting facts:
Dharmendra wanted to enact the role of Thakur in Sholay. Ramesh Sippy then said that Sanjeev Kumar would get the role of Veeru then and would get to romance Hema Malini.
Knowing Sanjeev's softness for Hema, Dharmendra immediately signed for the part of Veeru and his character is remembered even today.



What was Dharam so afraid of? blink.gif

Noorie



laugh.gif Apart from Dharmendra, Sanjeev Kumar and Jeetendra were also in the list of hot suitors.


NASIR.


I've heard something of the sort too. It appears that Jeetendra was considered to play the lead in the film Abhinetri opp Hema, and by all accounts he was 'over the moon'; but the role eventually went to Shashi K.

Noorie


NATURE
QUOTE(nasir @ Jul 25 2007, 12:02 AM) *

To say that Sanjeev Kumar was way ahead of the Khans (Dilip Kumar excluded) etc., is okay.

dilip kumar ko hee exclude kar diyaa ? phir bhi just "okay" ? ohmy.gif ohmy.gif
to lead role mein bachaa kaun ? kader khan, amjad khan & sanjay khan ?
or r u including 2day's sohail khan, salman khan & zayed khan too ? biggrin.gif

nasir saheb, humeshaa dil se sochte hain. kabhi to dimaag se sochiye ... tongue1.gif
QUOTE

It has become a fashion to bring up Sanjeev Kumar's performance in VIDHATA in comparison with that of
Dilip Kumar in one particular scene. That scene must be seen and understood in context of the entire story
and movie. The context demanded a very low profile from the guilt-ridden, conscious-stricken
Shobraj/Shamsher singh (Dilip Kumar) as against the preachings and admonitions of Abu Baba
(Sanjeev Kumar). That's it.

NASIR.

it has become a fashion to bring up dilip kumar's performance in shakti in comparison with that of
amitabh bachchan in one particular scene. that scene must be seen and understood in context of the
entire story and movie ... that's it
suhana_safar
Rafisaab sang the first Sanjeev Kumar song in Nishan and also the last released song of Sanjeev Kumar in film Kaanch ki Deewar.

Both were good friends and Rafisaab has given innumerable hits for Hari Bhai and also has sung more for him than any other singer.

What a combo!!!. Only a class actor like Sanjeev Kumar could make his presence felt in Sungarsh acting with the insititution of acting, Dilip Kumar. Raaj Kumar (amongst my most fav actors) said his best role was in Paigam with Dilip saab and I do agree, he said only the best can get the best work out of an actor. He was refering to Dilip Kumar and after many years Subhash gai got both the stars together.

Hari bhai was not only an actor but also a star and like Dilip Saab had an original style that no one can match. He has done all kinds of roles and with success. A very modest man who made a mark in the industry.
venkat
Friends,

There is an age-old saying that, in order to be a very good actor/hero, the man should be first a very good comedian! Both Amitabh Bachhan and Sanjeev Kumar excel in comedy, over and above the sober stuff. That is why both are excellent actors!

See the Film:Biwi-O-Biwi, a Sanjeev Kumar-Randheer Kapoor starrer and you will agree with me on Sanjeev Kumar's talent in comedy.

Venkat
suhana_safar
QUOTE(venkat @ Jul 25 2007, 05:38 PM) *

Friends,

There is an age-old saying that, in order to be a very good actor/hero, the man should be first a very good comedian! Both Amitabh Bachhan and Sanjeev Kumar excel in comedy, over and above the sober stuff. That is why both are excellent actors!

See the Film:Biwi-O-Biwi, a Sanjeev Kumar-Randheer Kapoor starrer and you will agree with me on Sanjeev Kumar's talent in comedy.
Venkat


Venkat ji

I could not stop laughing when I saw the film, Har bhai was superb. I however do not agree with this saying although I agree it is very hard to make someone laugh on the screen.

Angoor is another movie in which Hari bhai was excellent, Dilip Kumar too showed through Kohinoor, Raam aur Shyaam, Leader and Bairrag that he could not only be a tragedy king but also a comedy king.
Another actor that makes me laugh is Dharmendra, he is awesome in film like Naukar Biwi Ka, Chupke Chupke and Sholay. Amithabh also is good in comedy roles. All fine actors.
desai2rn
QUOTE(nasir @ Jul 24 2007, 11:02 PM) *

QUOTE(desai2rn @ Jul 18 2007, 12:27 AM) *

QUOTE(Ashraf @ Jul 17 2007, 09:21 PM) *

Sanjeev Kumar is one of few actors from bollywood who is rated high and respected for the acting skills by us southies.Surely way ahead of the khans/Bachans and Kapoors.



Even the great Dilipkumar had high regard for his acting. After initial misgiving he had praised his acting
in Sangarsh in which they came togather for the first time.



To say that Sanjeev Kumar was way ahead of the Khans (Dilip Kumar excluded) etc., is okay. Not to forget that Dilip Kumar had agreed to give a background voice as encouragement to him in NAYA DIN NAYI RAAT. As far as praising of Sanjeev Kumar by Dilip Kumar is concerned, I remember having read that the Thespian rang up Sanjeev congratulating him on his great performance in TRISHUL.

It has become a fashion to bring up Sanjeev Kumar's performance in VIDHATA in comparison with that of Dilip Kumar in one particular scene. That scene must be seen and understood in context of the entire story and movie. The context demanded a very low profile from the guilt-ridden, conscious-stricken Shobraj/Shamsher singh (Dilip Kumar) as against the preachings and admonitions of Abu Baba (Sanjeev Kumar). That's it.

NASIR.


Sanjeev Kumar's role in Sungarsh was short but of very aggresive in nature. When he found out that Sanjveev (who had hardly made a mark) was selected for the role Dilip Kumar was not happy. His opinion
was such a sober looking person won't be able to act in an agreesive role. He was impressed when SK
got a difficult shot right in first take and later told SK about his initial misgiving. I believe they had mutual
admiration. To be able to hold your own in first A grade film against the likes of Dilipkumar and Balraj Sahani is
quite an acomplishment.

I think Sanjeev Kumar's role in Koshish, along with Jaya Bhaduri is one of the best.
They are both deaf and dumb and to be honest I don't see too many heros and heroines taking challenging
roles like that for various reasons.

Comparison of two actors in same film is limited by the footage and character they are portraying.
Aurous
QUOTE(desai2rn @ Jul 25 2007, 08:07 PM) *

I think Sanjeev Kumar's role in Koshish, along with Jaya Bhaduri is one of the best.
They are both deaf and dumb and to be honest I don't see too many heros and heroines taking challenging
roles like that for various reasons.

SK was on a roll in terms of quality acting right through the 70s. Koshish was a landmark movie in the sense both the leads were deaf and dumb, still they managed to hook the viewers. SK was just too good. Koshish has to be seen to be believed. He was rightfully awarded the National Best Actor award in 1973 though I personally feel he wrongly lost out to Rishi Kapoor (Bobby) for the Filmfare Best Actor award. Don't think that would've affected SK in any way. He was one actor who was never after awards or publicity.

He was always ready to take unconventional roles that challenged him as an actor. He played Mirza, a chess-obsessed Lucknowi (citizen of Lucknow), in independent filmmaker Satyajit Ray's Shatranj Ke Khiladi (1977). In 'Yahi Hai Zindagi' (1977), he played the common man Anand Narayan who comes from a poor family, then turns into a wealthy business man through hard work. He was even nominated for Filmfare Best Actor for this movie but then who'd have stood tall in front of Manmohan Desai's 'Amar Akbar Anthony'? (Big B walked away with the award that year). Sholay, Khilona, Mausam, Aandhi, Trishul all critically-acclaimed films. All one better than the other.

To talk about SK's comic timing, one just has to watch 'Angoor' (1982) and find out for oneself.
desai2rn
QUOTE(mujahid @ Jul 29 2007, 05:27 PM) *

QUOTE(desai2rn @ Jul 25 2007, 08:07 PM) *

I think Sanjeev Kumar's role in Koshish, along with Jaya Bhaduri is one of the best.
They are both deaf and dumb and to be honest I don't see too many heros and heroines taking challenging
roles like that for various reasons.

SK was on a roll in terms of quality acting right through the 70s. Koshish was a landmark movie in the sense both the leads were deaf and dumb, still they managed to hook the viewers. SK was just too good. Koshish has to be seen to be believed. He was rightfully awarded the National Best Actor award in 1973 though I personally feel he wrongly lost out to Rishi Kapoor (Bobby) for the Filmfare Best Actor award. Don't think that would've affected SK in any way. He was one actor who was never after awards or publicity.

He was always ready to take unconventional roles that challenged him as an actor. He played Mirza, a chess-obsessed Lucknowi (citizen of Lucknow), in independent filmmaker Satyajit Ray's Shatranj Ke Khiladi (1977). In 'Yahi Hai Zindagi' (1977), he played the common man Anand Narayan who comes from a poor family, then turns into a wealthy business man through hard work. He was even nominated for Filmfare Best Actor for this movie but then who'd have stood tall in front of Manmohan Desai's 'Amar Akbar Anthony'? (Big B walked away with the award that year). Sholay, Khilona, Mausam, Aandhi, Trishul all critically-acclaimed films. All one better than the other.

To talk about SK's comic timing, one just has to watch 'Angoor' (1982) and find out for oneself.


He was superb in both Angoor and 'Yahi Hai Zindagi' . I have watched both the movies a number of time
and enjoyable each time. You are very right " Koshish has to be seen to be appreciated ". A fine movie
all round, specially Sanjeev and Jaya Bhaduri's performance. It was HF 's loss that she quit acting
after becoming Mrs Bachhan.

AzgarKhan
Sanjeev Kumar is one of my favorites, he was one of the finest actors we had in Bollywood industry, but comparing him with Dilip Kumar is just over rating him.

I like his role in Vidhata, Angoor and Shatranj Ke Khiladi.


nasir
QUOTE(AzgarKhan @ Jul 30 2007, 02:40 PM) *

Sanjeev Kumar is one of my favorites, he was one of the finest actors we had in Bollywood industry, but comparing him with Dilip Kumar is just over rating him.

I like his role in Vidhata, Angoor and Shatranj Ke Khiladi.



Generally I like Sanjeev Kumar's performance when it is a powerful one as in TRISHUL, AANDHI and MAUSAM or a comical one as in Swarg Narak where he makes fool of Maushami.

One scene which I can't forget and which makes me laugh is in SEETA AUR GEETA. It is in a fighting scene where Roopesh Kumar asks one of his henchman to get a doctor for treating Hema. The doctor turns out to be Sanjeev who then comes to know where Hema has been kidnapped and hidden. Roopesh Kumar's retort on the situation: KYA TUMEH YAHI DOCTOR MILA THA? evokes laughter.

I am also reminded of a hilarious story my mother told me involving Sanjeev and Maushami. At that time we were staying in the 7 Bungalows area and the building was right next to the place where most of the Bollywood shootings used to take place in the eighties or late seventies. This place is also opposite the DARYA MAHAL, which again has always been used for shooting movies.

Now, this particular shooting was taking place on the road. My old mother set off to get the bazaar for the day. She was eager to catch a bus. Luckily she saw an empty bus. But then she saw a woman looking like Maushami. At the same time she saw a wretched looking person in chappals walk by to also catch the bus. She took pity on him, thinking how sad it was since that person looked like Sanjeev Kumar. She then instantly boarded the bus. The conductor however told her: MAAJI YEH BUS NAHIN JATI HAI. Then she realised that they were actually actors.

NASIR.


NASIR.
IDOL
I always love-love- and love his dialogue delivery and his eyes direction while delivering...................no one has that style in bollywood......

AzgarKhan
QUOTE(nasir @ Jul 30 2007, 11:15 PM) *
QUOTE(AzgarKhan @ Jul 30 2007, 02:40 PM) *

Sanjeev Kumar is one of my favorites, he was one of the finest actors we had in Bollywood industry, but comparing him with Dilip Kumar is just over rating him.

I like his role in Vidhata, Angoor and Shatranj Ke Khiladi.



Generally I like Sanjeev Kumar's performance when it is a powerful one as in TRISHUL, AANDHI and MAUSAM or a comical one as in Swarg Narak where he makes fool of Maushami.

One scene which I can't forget and which makes me laugh is in SEETA AUR GEETA. It is in a fighting scene where Roopesh Kumar asks one of his henchman to get a doctor for treating Hema. The doctor turns out to be Sanjeev who then comes to know where Hema has been kidnapped and hidden. Roopesh Kumar's retort on the situation: KYA TUMEH YAHI DOCTOR MILA THA? evokes laughter.

I am also reminded of a hilarious story my mother told me involving Sanjeev and Maushami. At that time we were staying in the 7 Bungalows area and the building was right next to the place where most of the Bollywood shootings used to take place in the eighties or late seventies. This place is also opposite the DARYA MAHAL, which again has always been used for shooting movies.

Now, this particular shooting was taking place on the road. My old mother set off to get the bazaar for the day. She was eager to catch a bus. Luckily she saw an empty bus. But then she saw a woman looking like Maushami. At the same time she saw a wretched looking person in chappals walk by to also catch the bus. She took pity on him, thinking how sad it was since that person looked like Sanjeev Kumar. She then instantly boarded the bus. The conductor however told her: MAAJI YEH BUS NAHIN JATI HAI. Then she realised that they were actually actors.

NASIR.


NASIR.


Thanks for sharing the story Nasir Bhai!
bawlachintu
QUOTE(AzgarKhan @ Jul 30 2007, 02:40 PM) *

Sanjeev Kumar is one of my favorites, he was one of the finest actors we had in Bollywood industry, but comparing him with Dilip Kumar is just over rating him.

I like his role in Vidhata, Angoor and Shatranj Ke Khiladi.

See few more films of Sanjeev Kumar

Khilona
Seeta aur Geeta
Naya din Nayi raat
Trishul
Pati patni aur woh

and

Mausam-a classic
desai2rn
QUOTE(bawlachintu @ Oct 30 2007, 05:42 AM) *

QUOTE(AzgarKhan @ Jul 30 2007, 02:40 PM) *

Sanjeev Kumar is one of my favorites, he was one of the finest actors we had in Bollywood industry, but comparing him with Dilip Kumar is just over rating him.

I like his role in Vidhata, Angoor and Shatranj Ke Khiladi.

See few more films of Sanjeev Kumar

Khilona
Seeta aur Geeta
Naya din Nayi raat
Trishul
Pati patni aur woh

and

Mausam-a classic


And

Koshish, a must for Sanjeev or Jaya Bhaduri ( Bachhan) fans IMHO

and for some new comers wanting to learn acting





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