What are you saying Nasir? That Rekha isn't? Not that I am very fond of Rekha, but I can't afford to be uncharitable to people all the time you know, so for now let me say that her voice is the least annoying bit of her personality.

i saved this song on my cellphone..nice one..

na mitti na gaara na na sona sajana...jahan pyar dekho wohi ghar basana..yeh dil imarat banti hai dil se...jahan pe savera ho..basera wohi hai..
gulzar said in a recent interview his words create probblem for pancham da,coz his hindi was not that good..

i just watched etc music awards..lifetime achivement award was given to pushpa hans..accordin to her mini biography she was also an actress..
i want to know abt that..and also abt rehana sultana(i really wonder how come a b grade actress won national award)

Rehana sultana..was very bold for her times. A truly dedicated artiste..it seems. She won National Award for Dastak for which Madanmohan has given unforgettable music..starring Sanjeev kumar. I only remember the posters flashed across the town..havent seen the film...Strictly Adults movie..is what i have been told.. for those times.

Guys, just for the records, Rekha and I have something personal in common....
10th October!!

Simplefable, she was Rehana Sultan, not Sultana. Her sister Salma Sultan was a newsreader on National DD for many years.

I remember seeing those strictly Adult posters of (Dastak? I thought it was Do Raha!)as a child, with a guy peeping in awe from between two female legs.
For quite some time, I thought that the guy was Rehana Sultan

Noorie, to affirm that Rakhee is an intense actress is not to deny that Rekha isn't.

After having said that, in my opinion, Rakhee Gulzar's acting style and dialogue delivery is more natural in the sense it does not have the "cultivated" style of Rekha. What a dashing start Rakhee had! Both her movies, JEEVAN MRTYU and SHARMILEE in 1969-1970 were great hits, the first being a blockbuster film. The flamboyant role of a Go-Getter in the second movie viewed in juxtaposition with the role of a typical DESI girl in both the aforesaid movies makes one wonder whether she was just a new entrant to Bollywood at that point of time. Not to speak of Rakhee getting awards every other year by way of nominations, or winner as Actress or Best Supporting Actress. True, that Rekha's role in KHOON BHARI MAANG was simply outstanding, fetching her the Best Actress Award. But by looking to the choice of movies selected by Rekha, as a whole, Rakhee does appear on a higher pedestal in comparison.


I think Rekha scores over Rakhee in maintaining of a persona, a la Hollywood style. She is a Dev Anand among her female contemporaries. While, it appears that Rakhee must have been bitten by the Meena Kumari bug. But there can only be one Meena Kumari. Manisha Koirala too must have realised that by now.

YESssss....i see the resemblance. Actually I will always remember Salma Sultan for her glacial beauty and never smile face...

That was Chetna.


Chetna, Dastak, Man tera tan mera, Prem Parbat, Aaj Ki Dhara all were cleared with A certificates.

She was originally Rehana Sultana only and you can find that name in
her early movies like Pujarin (1969). Most of her films got A certificate
from censor board and she had dropped last A from her surname
Sultana and started writing her name as Rehana Sultan and said
that she has donated this A to her films, which always got A certificate.

She was pet girl of B. R. Ishara and later she married to B R Ishara.
She has no relationship with Salma Sultan of Delhi who was newsreader
on DD.

Salma Sultan has only one sibling, her elder sister Memona Sultana
was Member of Parliament till 1990. Salma Sultan did her Graduation
from Bhopal Girls Collage and did MA (English Literature)
from Indraprasth (I.P.) Collage, Delhi. Her father Late Mohd. Asghar
Ansari was Secretary of the State of Nawab, Bhopal and later on
Joint Secretary in Ministry of Agriculture, Govt of India. Before she
could complete her education she lost her parents and her elder
sister helped her in further studies. Salma Sultan got married to
Mr. Amin Kidwai in 1969. Mr. Amin Kidwai is son of Mr. M. K. Kidwai,
the former Chief Secretary Jammu and Kashmir and former Indian
Ambassador to Saudi Arabia. Her uncle-in-law Anwar Jamal Kidwai
was vice chancellor of Jamia Millia Islamia.

Gosh, Mahesh!! You seem to know in depth about Salma Sultan!! (Or can it be googled?)
I had heard about them being sisters quite a long way back - or perhaps read - so I said this.
However, I stand corrected if your info is correct

And you are right about 'Chetna' too . So you obviously must be right about the Sultan-A part too.

Chalo, MaheshKS se panga mol nahi lena hai....chup chap patli gali se nikal jaate hain..

Aage hain qatil mera..aur main peeche..peeche..

Mahesh..that is awesome. thanks.
MORAL : never trust a magician..

Adding some more on Rehana Sultana.....

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An acting graduate from FTII, Rehana Sultana shocked the nation by stripping in her very first film: BR Ishara's 'Chetna'(1970). It was about a boy from a decent middle class background falling in love with a call girl and wanting to marry her. Anil Dhawan played the obsessed lover. 'Chetna' was a hit. So was Rehana Sultana.
Followed Rajendra Singh Vedi's 'Dastak' (1970), another film which got 'A' (For Adults Only) certificate from the censors. It had Sanjeev and Rehana, a newly married couple, being conned into becoming tenants in a kholi, located in a red light area. ‘Dastak’ won laurels, Urvashi Award for Rehana and also brickbats for an unconventional theme.
Her third film 'Man Tera Tan Mera' (1971) too got an 'A' certificate.
Unfazed, Rehana deleted the A from Sultana, became Rehana Sultan and declared, "I have donated the A from my name to Censor Board!"
There were more films. Eventually, Rehana fell in love with her director-mentor B R Ishara, married and retired.

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Filmography

Chaka (1993)
Hum Rahe Na Hum (1984)
Jwala Daku (1981)
Aaj Ki Dhara (1979)
Deen Aur Imaan (1979)
Nawab Sahib (1978)
Agent Vinod (1977)
Ooparwala Jaane (1977)
Sajjo Rani (1976)
Zindagi Aur Toofan (1975)
Albeli (1974)
Khhotte Sikkay (1974)
Bada Kabutar (1973)
Dil Ki Rahen (1973)
Prem Parvat (1973)
Haar Jeet (1972)
Man Jaiye (1972)
Savera (1972)
Tanhai (1972)
Man Tera Tan Mera (1971)
Chetna (1970)
Dastak (1970)

Rehana Sultana who plays the role of a hooker in B.R. Ishara’s CHETNA was the name that pandered to the erotic stimulation among the youths of the Seventies. Her name became more famous because of the posters splashed all over the country with her standing legs apart (which looked like a big "A"�) with the hero, Anil Dhawan starring straight through the legs which of course was just a camera trick. That "A"€� became synonymous with Adults€� contents of her movies such as CHETNA and DASTAK. B.R. Ishara’s exploitation of Rehana for such a role was very bold for that period but is nothing compared to today’s lurid standards. Mukesh song in that movie: MAIN TO HAR MO.D PAR TUJH KO DOONGA SADA...is a moving one. But in DASTAK it was the role a housewife who is forced to live in a red-light district and much to the annoyance of both husband (Sanjeev Kumar) and wife they have to time and again fend off the customers who mistakes Rehana for a pros. BAINYYA NA DHARO O SAJNA is an evergreen song from that film. She later married B.R. Ishara. In 1977, in AGENT VINOD, she had starred opposite Mahendra Sandhu who, incidentally, was a private and a special student of mine in martial arts.

I remember having read an interview by Rehana which portrays her as a sober and straight woman. She even stated that before she had joined the film industry, she was never allowed to watch vulgar films but that Dilip Kumar movies were recommended in the parental family.

Incidentally, Radha Saluja was another flash in the pan during that period and her DO RAHA was lapped up well by the Cine-goers. The movie was a biting sarcasm on the so-called husbands who make a show-piece of their wives and make her walk the ramps of the bazaars in the name of "Modern Society" or for securing business and gaining favours. Remember the song: TUMIH REHNUMA HO MERI ZINDAGI KE...? A husband is meant to be a guide (REHNUMA) for the wife and if he himself becomes a pimp then there is no sanctity attached to such relationship.

I suppose you're right Nasir, Rekha is indeed a 'diva'. Check out this video - song from Parineeta.

Kaisi paheli hai



Being glam is good, but I prefer the old-time grace and simplicity of Meena Kumari.
Reeth, what do you say?

What's with the word "portrays" Nasir? She could very well be.
Maybe her worst fault is that she isn't a hypocrite like most others who are part of mainstream cinema.

Contrary to the popular belief, Rehana wasn't a Muslim at all; she in fact is a Bahai.




That's a beautiful song by Asha Bhosle. One of my favorites.

Noorie, I like that Parineeta song since it takes me back in time..

I agree 100% , There is no comparison between Rekha and the Old acresses be it
meena Kumari, Madhubala , Nargis, Waheeda Rehman or Vyjayantimala...

I too like the song and the singer.....in fact it has been very well picturised..... i wish they had some
other actress performing ....

why to compare both rakhee and rekha...
let me know abt pushpa hans too..

Jassi who is Pushpa hans?

there is hardly any written material available on her...
the little that i found....i add the link below....

http://www.apnaorg.com/articles/pushpa/

films

Kale Badal (1951 )
Apna Desh (1949)
Sheesh mahal(1950)

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she is a singer..also got padam shri award...i just got to know abt her recently

Veena Sapru (July 4, 1926 - November, 2004)


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Veena was born as Tajour Sultana on July 4, 1926 in Quetta, Balochistan, British India. At some point of time, her family shifted to Lahore and she belonged to Lahore's Chuna Mandi. She started out playing heroine roles in Pre-Partition films. She made her debut with Garib and Gawandhi (1942) at around sixteen years of age. Garib was made in Urdu and Gawandhi was made in Punjabi and directed by Mehboob Khan.
In Garib, she played the role of Lata and in Gawandhi she played heroine opposite Shyam who played the hero. She became famous as actress and heroine in Pre-Partition Hindi and Urdu films. Her early years in films came with films like Najma (1943), Phool (1945), and Humayun (1945). Her last film before the Partition of India was Rajputani (1946) in which she played a supporting role. She decided to remain in India after the partition and she acted through the mid-to-late-1940s, 1950s, 1960s, 1970s and early-1980s. She played roles in big films like Halaku (1956), Chalti Ka Naam Gaadi (1958), Kaagaz Ke Phool (1959),
Taj Mahal (1963), Do Raaste (1969), and Pakeezah (1972). She retired in 1983 after the release of Razia Sultan (1983) in which she played Empress Shah Turkhan. She died in Bombay in 2004 after 21 years of retirement when she was 78 years old after suffering from a protracted illness. She had appeared in over 70 feature films in a career spanning 41 years (1942 till 1983).

Check out the following link....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4FLyUu0v-U

( Inhi Logon Ne - Pakeezah (1956)

if salma sultan was same woman with open hair and rose..

did you read the article jassi? i think it gives all the information you wanted...

it would have been really grt if bedi would have cast someone like simi garewal in dastak..i cant digest this thing someone like rehana got national award(just like beena rai for ghoonghat,but not madhubala for mughle azam)..
i heard rehana was supposed to jaroorat,but finally reena roy did it..
thank god..we got such a talented actress...

do correct me guys,if she also did some film with waheeda rehmaan and sunil dutt..in that film both waheeda and rehana played prostitutes..
what was that film's name

veena sapru,if she was wife of actor sapru and mother of punjabi film actress preeti sapru...
well i recently watched pakeezah and razia sultana..she was grt..
she was given some fine lines in both films...i loved the way she called ashok kumar..shahabudin..aao apni abrooiyat ka tamasha dekho(something like this)

and in razia sultana,when her son slapped her..she replied main tumhari gunhegar hoon ke maine aisi aulad ko janam diya(i cant recall the dialogue,but she was grt)...

Veena's personality and voice went together. Both showed royal bearings. The flawless urdu diction of hers was again something very pleasing to hear. I remember her role of a strict elder sister of Raj Kapoor in DASTAAN, (Rafi's song: YEH SAAWAN AUR HUM AUR TUM) which brings ruin to the family.

she had a very powerful role in Pakeezah...





She also acted with Ashok Kumar in 'Afsana'(1951) which was later remade into'Dastaan'
with Dilip Kumar......


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Reeth, the picture is that Kuldip Kaur who played a vampish role in AFSANA. Yes, Veena too was there in the movie.

Nasir i am posting a couple of more pics...

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All 3 come from the same set....the song 'Woh paas bhi rehkar paas nahi ' from Afsana..

but tell me if she is related to actor sapru and preeti sapru

No jassi plez plez go through her article.... : Veena was born as Tajour Sultana on July 4, 1926 in Quetta, Balochistan, British India....

ok

Chand Usmani

Started her acting career in 1938 as a child artiste in Banke Sanwariya, and later as a heroine
with hte film Jeevan Jyothi with Shammi Kapoor...


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She has acted in fifty odd films in a career spanning forty years or more......
...
Some of her prominent films...

Jeevan jyothi
Baap re baap
Sanskar
Zamana badal gaya
Do behne
Naya paisa
Abhimaan
Baarati
Naya Daur
Prem Patra
Shagoon
April fool
Muhobbat zindgi hai
Do Bhai
Khilona
Pehchan
Dost
Dharam Veer
Pukar
Arth
Patthar dil and
Amiri Gharibi in 1990


She won the Filmfare award for the Best Supporting Actress in 1971 for the film 'Pehchan'..

O yes! That's look like Veena no doubt.
Thanks.

way back in mid 90s,i was watching sanyasi..chand usmani was in that film..and i thought its meena kumari..(i felt why meena kumari did such a small role)

much later i got to know the diffrence between both..
i liked her in parvarish and dharamveer..

now i want to know abt urmila bhatt..she was killed by underworld...dunno why

I have seen Chand usmani in Baap re baap which incidentally had some wonderful music......
and in a more mature role in Khilona.......

Jassi plez do add whatever u know about Urmila bhatt here......BTW is she the one who acted in an old off beat movie ??? am trying to remember the name, it had some wonderful songs by Hemant kumar and Manna dey...
O;k got it...Phir bhi???

hello - your u/l yesteryear Nostalgian is very good




Thanks

dhall

Honored and Thank you dhall.......please feel free to add your own inputs here...

i know nothin abt her..just know she was killed in mid of 90s..

Jassi you have to know a little more than that...at least how you came to know about her???

but she was not a leading lady..that i should know abt her..come on guys i m not an old lady of that era..all i remember that when gulshan kumar was killed..underworld guys also killed some other film people..she was also killed..but i just cant recall her face..

let me search on google

got it..she also acted in rtgm..the woman who was running kotha..
and did many other films too..


Paappi Devataa (1995) .... Mrs. Khan
Professor Ki Padosan (1993) .... Shobha's Mother
Zakhmi Rooh (1993) .... Shekhar's mother
Apradhi (1992) .... Mrs. Vishamber Nath
Jigarwala (1991) .... Sohni's mom
Amiri Garibi (1990) .... Mrs. Laxmi Narayan
Ghar Ho To Aisa (1990) .... Neeta's mother-in-law
Jaan-E-Wafa (1990) (as Urmila Bhat)
Karishma Kali Kaa (1990) .... Shiv's mom


Bahurani (1989) (uncredited) .... Ganga (Madhuri's Mom)
... aka Daughter-in-Law (International: English title)
Abhimanyu (1989) .... Savitri (Shyam Lal's wife)
Touhean (1989) .... Gomtibai
Bade Ghar Ki Beti (1989) .... Mrs. Kishan Lal
Clerk (1989) .... Geeta
Mil Gayee Manzil Mujhe (1989)
Akanksha (1989) (TV) .... Vijay Kumar's mother
Hum Intezaar Karenge (1989) .... Jyoti's mother
Ek Naya Rishta (1988) .... Mrs. Saxena
Mulzim (1988) .... Mrs. Bhushan
Superman (1987) .... Superman's Foster Mother
... aka The Indian Superman (India: English title)
Kalyug Aur Ramayan (1987) .... Mrs. Sharma
Insaniyat Ke Dushman (1987) .... Sheetal
Mera Karam Mera Dharam (1987) .... Shivani Sharma
Muddat (1986) .... Mrs. Vikram Singh
... aka Ages
Kaanch Ki Deewar (1986) .... Jaswant's mom
Mera Haque (1986) .... Amar's dadimaa
Alag Alag (1985) .... Rajni
Maha Shaktimaan (1985) .... Maharani Ahilya P. Singh
... aka Maharudra (India: Bengali title)
Ram Teri Ganga Maili (1985) .... Rajeshwaribai
Bewafai (1985) .... Mrs. Harihar Nath
Karishma Kudrat Kaa (1985) .... Vijay's mom
Phaansi Ke Baad (1985) .... Sapna's mom
Tohfa (1984)
Aaj Ki Awaz (1984) .... Mrs. Varma
... aka Today's Voice
Qaidi (1984) .... Mrs. Jugran (Dinesh's mom)
Raaj Tilak (1984) .... Durga Singh
Shapath (1984) .... Vijay's mom
Hero (1983/II) .... Sandhya Mathur
Rishta Kagaz Ka (1983) .... Mrs. Kaul
Swami Dada (1982) .... Suresh's mom
... aka The Saint and the Ruffian
Deedar-E-Yaar (1982) .... Mrs. Changezi
... aka My Beloved (India: English title)
Nikaah (1982) .... Mrs. Ahmed (Wasim's mother)
... aka Marriage
Meharbaani (1982) (as Urmila Bhat)
Teesri Aankh (1982) .... Inspector Om's wife
Badle Ki Aag (1982) (uncredited) .... Geeta's Foster Mother
Baghavat (1982) .... Amar's foster mom
... aka The Rebellion (India: English title)
Dulha Bikta Hai (1982) .... Mrs. Walia
Meri Aawaz Suno (1981) .... Mrs. Kaminidevi Kumar
Itni Si Baat (1981) .... Brothel Madame
Jwala Daku (1981)
Ladies Tailor (1981) .... Mehboob's Mother
Kismet (1980) .... Ganga's Mother
Thodisi Bewafaii (1980) .... Mrs. Sujata Arvind. Choudhary
... aka Thodisi Bewafai (India: Hindi title: alternative transliteration)
The Burning Train (1980) .... Mrs. Jagmohan (Randhir's mom)
Ram Balram (1980) .... Saraswati
... aka Ram and Belram


Tarana (1979)
Raadha Aur Seeta (1979) .... Mrs. R.B. Verma
Manzil (1979) .... Mrs. Khosla
... aka Destination
Aakhri Kasam (1979) .... Zamindar's wife
Chambal Ki Rani (1979)
Saanch Ko Aanch Nahin (1979) .... Mrs. Sharda M. Agarwal (Nirmala's mom)
... aka Truth Needs No Support
College Girl (1978)
Badaltey Rishtey (1978) (as Urmilla Bhatt) .... Mrs. Raghuvir Singh
Ankhiyon Ke Jharokhon Se (1978) .... Ruby Fernandes
Atithee (1978) .... Mrs. M. Kumar
... aka Guest (International: English title)
Besharam (1978)
Dillagi (1978) (as Urmeela Bhatt) .... Ramesh's mom
... aka Mischief (International: English title)
Kaala Aadmi (1978)
Phaansi (1978) .... Mrs. Mahendra Pratap Singh
Toote Khilone (1978)
Alibaba Marjinaa (1977) .... Alibaba's mom
Jay Vejay (1977)
Udhar Ka Sindur (1976) (as Urmila Bhat) .... Janki
Hera Pheri (1976) .... Sudha
Balika Badhu (1976) .... Amal's mom
... aka The Young Wife (International: English title)
Do Anjaane (1976) .... Mrs. Shivani Somesh Dutt
... aka Two Unknown (USA: informal English title)
Khalifa (1976)
Santu Rangili (1976)
... aka Santu Rangilee (India: Gujarati title)
Sati Jasma Odan (1976)
Dharam Karam (1975) .... Ganga
Chori Mera Kaam (1975) (as Urmila Bhat) .... Parvati A. Rathore
Geet Gaata Chal (1975) .... Ganga
Jaan Hazir Hai (1975)
Jogidas Khuman (1975)
... aka Jogidas Khumaan (India: Gujarati title: alternative transliteration)
Toofan (1975)
Uljhan (1975) .... Laxmi
Zorro (1975/II)
Call Girl (1974) .... Mrs. Sonachand
36 Ghante (1974) .... Vijay's mom
Dhuen Ki Lakeer (1974)
Jheel Ke Us Paar (1973) .... Prabha Devi
Dhund (1973) .... Mrs. Singh
... aka Fog
... aka Trance
Koshish (1972) .... Mrs. Gupta
Preetam (1971) .... Urmila B. Sinha
Phir Bhi (1971)


Gauri (1968) (as Urmila) .... Basanti
Sunghursh (1968) .... Ganeshi Prasad's wife
... aka Sangharsh (India: Hindi title: alternative transliteration)
... aka Sunghursh (India: Hindi title: alternative transliteration)
Hamraaz (1967) .... Mrs. Tejpal
... aka Confidante
... aka Humraaz (India: Hindi title: alternative transliteration)

Thank you jassi

i'm a fan of dharmendra but i would like to know the truth.

WHY did Meena Kuarmi START drinking? WHEN did she shart drinking?

the author of this page long blog explains. he seems knowledgeable if blunt. he makes good points on (1) raaj kumar sigining on for pakeezah as a boon for the film (2) motives in the 60s when meena kumari was a big star who could impact new heroes. normally i don't like to get into personal lives of celebrities but this is relevant because it had tremendous impact on the silver screen with meena kumari (drinking hurt her in 60s) and dharmendra. read the blog if you have the time - if not, that's ok. let me know if there is something you DON'T agree with. thanks

http://abhinav.sulekha.com/blog/post/2006/...tural-death.htm

i must say that biography by mohandeep or whatever his name on meena kumari was just crap..
it was havin no sence..

After having read the link, the contents thereof are just ordinary knowledge of the people who have lived through the era of Meena Kumari. There's nothing new there. I have accordingly responded there with my own comments.

It's true that in a televised interview Dharmendra did not utter the name of Meena Kumari even once while he was talking about other heroines of his. My impression was that maybe it was because of his deference for her. At the same time it was annoying too because we wanted to know the real story about the alleged relationship which was again a very common knowledge.

Regarding the observation that Meena Kumari was in love with her husband throughout her life seems to be doubtful. On the contrary it appears that she was not pleased with him.

Though the said article mentions that Meena Kumari died within weeks of the release of Pakeeza, it does not mention the fact it was precisely because of her untimely death that PAKEEZA became a superhit movie. Thousand of people followed the bier of Meena Kumari and she was finally laid to rest in a Qabrastan at the Mazagaon area which was the locality I was staying at that time. After that the cinegoers and fans rushed to the Maratha Mandir Cinema to see the movie in memory of the legendary Meena Kumari.

I have recently joined this network.
I had seen pakeezah few days back and was totally mesmerised by actor veens's performace.
her dialogue delivery is like that of a some royal queen
I know she died in 2004. but what i dont knwo is was she married and how many kids she had if she had any. does any body know where she was living in india like where in mumbai. i wud really appriciate if some one tells me abt her.

i did find some thing about her on wikipedia but that was not enough.

Hello Nasir bhai and Reeth and others
salam to all of you

I recently saw pakeezah and was spell bound by meena kumari and veena's performance.
I wonder an actress such as veena did not do many films in 70's and 80's I mean she did film like pakeezah and razai sultan and yeah i even saw shatranj ke khiladi and she there in that movie too and she gave eyt another amazing performance as wajid ali shahs' mother. she has grace and beauty and talent.
does any body know more about her like whom she married and how many kids she has etc. i read about her in wikipedia but that information was not that in detail. i hope reeht and nasir bhai might some more abt her. wating eagerly
thanks for this wonderful forum
salman