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Reeth
QUOTE(Ummer @ Apr 27 2007, 10:58 AM) *

QUOTE(Reeth @ Apr 26 2007, 02:31 PM) *

QUOTE(jassi @ Apr 26 2007, 02:59 PM) *

all were great...i like all nargis,madhubala,meena kumari,nutan,geeta bali,vyajaynthimala,waheeda rehmaan etc
i dont like beena rai(i guess she was even not deserving best actress award for ghoonghat,madhubala was 1000 times better than her in mughle azam)..supporting actresses like nadira and nimmi were also good

Jassi, Bina rai is considered to be nearly as beautiful as Madhubala,talent???.....am not sure.. i have seen 3 of her movies Anarkali,Tajmahal and Vallah kya baat hai.....and believe me she is Gorgeous.. wub.gif biggrin.gif




QUOTE(noorie @ Apr 26 2007, 07:17 PM) *

You are right Reeth, Daera was a really depressing movie. But I don't mind watching it again and again just 4 Meena ji's sake.
To be married 2 an old man and then find urself hopelessly in love with someone else; if that isn't a tragedy, I don't know what is. sad.gif

Noorie


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I agree with Jassi..... I find Bina Roy as an annoying actress along with her dumb facial expressions. Anarkali (1953) technically + acting wise was poor film in my opinion, it was only because of its songs i think that the films did great business. Both Bina Roy and Pradeep Kumar were annoying in this film. Bina Roy was neither a good actress nor a good dancer.



QUOTE(jassi @ Apr 27 2007, 11:56 AM) *

i m more madhubala fan,and i felt without a reason beena was always compared with legendry beauty

1.Madhubala was said to be having affair with premnath,but later he married beena rai..(i guess after madhubala's break up with dilip,prem was new man in her life,but he went for bina rai..well i too wud not have like madhubala n premnath together..but i do like premnath as an actor

2.Madhubala was all set to play anarkali when nargis walked out of mughle azam,but at the same time an another film was announced anarkali with bina rai..mughle azam took too much time to get complete..n anarkali come first and got success,but mughle azam which was declaired flop,became a big blockbuster

3.There were talks that both looks similer..there might be,but not for me,madhubala is lifetime beauty..

4.Most big thing which pinched me Filmfare Award,Madhubala was deserving this award,but it went to Beena Rai,she might be good in that film,but not at her best the way madhubala was..if u dont know abt ghoonghat,let me tell u ghar ghar ki kahani(1988)starring rishi,jayaprada,anita raj,govinda n farha was inspired from ghoonghat..but see tday we remember Madhubala n Mughle Azam,but nobody is knowing much abt Ghoonghat and Bina Rai

i give u 4 reasons why i dont like bina rai much


The only comparison with Madhubala is that Bina rai did resemble her from some angles and was indeed very beautiful,but Madhubala was a class apart ......probably the other thing they had in common was Premnth...
Bina Rai and Premnath starred in Aurat ,Shagufa,Samunder,Watan and Prisoner of Golconda
All of them were resounding flops...
But she did act in some good movies
Khali ghata
Meenar
Anarkali
Insaniyat
Durgesh nandini
Mera salaam
Bandi
Taj Mahal
Ghunghat
Daadi ma

with pradeep kumar in Taj Mahal
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With Shammi Kapoor in Vallah Kya Baat hai
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jassi
i think in last pic its geeta bali..
jassi
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gohar,shobhana samarth n nirupa roy
Reeth
It is Bina rai...i have seen the film Vallah kya baat hai and this is a song sequence..Ek to surat pyari....
Reeth
QUOTE(jassi @ Apr 27 2007, 02:45 PM) *


Thanks a lot Jassi.... smile.gif
maheshks
QUOTE(Ummer @ Apr 27 2007, 11:16 AM) *

QUOTE(Reeth @ Apr 23 2007, 02:56 PM) *

QUOTE(Ummer @ Apr 23 2007, 10:36 AM) *

QUOTE(Reeth @ Apr 18 2007, 04:41 PM) *

SURAIYA (June 15, 1929 - January 31, 2004

Suriya was perhaps the last of the Great singing stars...Born in Lahore, she was an only child.She began her acting career by playing bit roles as a child artiste,between the years 1937-1941.Her major film was TajMahal in 1941.....She did playback as a 13 year old for actress Mehtaab in Sharda(1942)
She was launched as a singing star in Bombay talkies Hamaari Baat(1943).She initially started by playing powerful secondary roles in films like Phool, Anmol Ghadi and Dard,..Her singing career found a mentor in music maestro naushad...K.L.Saigal recommended her as heroine for Tadbir in 1945,she co starred with Saigal in Omar Khayyam and Parwana. In 1947 after the partition when Major actresses Noor jehan and Khurshid migrated to Pakistan, more opportunities appeared for Suraiya....

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The Year 1948 - 1949 were the best for her career...She had three major hits Pyar ki Jeet, Badi bahen and Dillagi and she became the highest paid Female Star.At her peak Suriaya generated hysteria among the masses...Her songs were a craze....Her songs like Tere nainon ne chori kiya, Woh paas rahe ya door rahe...Bigdi bananewale, murliwale murli bajaa were hummed in every nook and corner of the country..

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while shooting for the film Vidya Suraiya fell in love with Dev Anand and the two of them did six films together....Afsar,shayar,Do sitare,Jeet,Nili , none of them hits, suraiya had no regrets as their love flourished...But suraiya's grandmother opposed the relationship . Suraiya remained unmarried all her life...Their love story was the stuff legends are made of...


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She made a hit pair with Talat mehmood in movies like Maalik and Waris.... In 1954 she gave her finest dramatic performance in Mirza Ghalib, in the role of a courtesan, the married Ghalib's lover.....her songs in this film are eternal classics...Yeh na thi hamare kismat, Dil e naadan tujhe hua kya hai..

Some of her memorable films
Anmolghadi pyar ki jeet
Waris
Afsar
Sanam
Malik
Mirza Ghalib
Deewana
Mashooqa
Vidya
Shama
Rustom Sohrab
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Suraiya's films startrd flopping in the fifties.....followed some indifferent films, and finally in 1963 after acting in Rustom Soharb with Prithviraj Kapoor she bade farewell to the studios....
She retreated into a world surrounded by her close family..
She died in 2004 ,at the age of 75....
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Suriya's Films and songs continue to thrive on speculations,lore and memories....


Suraiya was born in Gujranwala... not Lahore. I haven't seen Mirza Ghalib, but my favorite Suraiya's movie as an actress is Dastaan with Raj Kapoor. As a singer... I like most of her movies. biggrin.gif Badi Behan was also a nice watchable movie, but I didn't like Dillagi at all...

Anmol Ghadi was also a nice movie... I also find Suraiya more charming than Noor Jehan in this film + I liked Suraiya's songs better than Noor Jehan. Noor Jehan was pregnant at that time I think, and she looks plumpy and bubbly and her acting was completely wooden in the movie.

Noor Jehan best movies (as an actress) came after partition and she looks very pretty in Koel and Intezar.


I have referred to several sources and by all accounts she was born in lahore and later moved to Bombay....wikipedia is the only site on where her birth place is mentioned as Gujranwala, Punjab...


I dont think Suraiya started her career as early as 1937... her first film was as child artiste was Taj Mahal (1941). Incidentally,PrithivirajKapoor was the hero of her first and last film as heroine (Ishara - 1943 and Rustom Sohrab - 1963). She acted with three Kapoors (father + 2 sons) - Raj Kapoor in Dastaan, Shammi Kapoor in Shama Parwana and Prithviraj Kapoor as mentioned above. According to Devinder Bir Kaur "Thus, by the age of 12, she was doing the heroine’s role in Ishara. She was so skinny that they had to pad her all over! And, what was more, she was opposite the ‘grand old man of the Indian screen’, namely Prithviraj Kapoor, who was in his mid-40s. Like everyone in the unit, she too called him ‘Papaji’! Prithviraj admitted that it was difficult romancing with a girl he would call ‘daughter’ when the camera wasn’t whirring. "


Ummer I think Suraiya's first role in the movies was in "Station Master". It appears
that Mumtaj Mahal got released first. Refer to Naushad Saab's comments at her death
and of the late VijayBhatt of Prakash Pictures. They both said it was for the
movie "station master" that suraiya was introduced as singing child star.
The production of the movie started in 1940. You must have downloaded
the video clip of her first song that I uploaded in my thread.
jassi
Suraiya was mainly 40s star,in 50s she was fading actress,i never got to watch any of her film

i guess she was something against dilip kumar,coz i read somewhere she refused to work with dilip kumar in some film called jaanwar by saying that main kisi jaanwar ke saath kaam nahi karungi(i m not goin to work with any jaanwar aka animal) and also refused devdas...
noorie
QUOTE(jassi @ Apr 27 2007, 11:56 AM) *

i m more madhubala fan,and i felt without a reason beena was always compared with legendry beauty

1.Madhubala was said to be having affair with premnath,but later he married beena rai..(i guess after madhubala's break up with dilip,prem was new man in her life,but he went for bina rai..well i too wud not have like madhubala n premnath together.. but i do like premnath as an actor

2.Madhubala was all set to play anarkali when nargis walked out of mughle azam,but at the same time an another film was announced anarkali with bina rai..mughle azam took too much time to get complete..n anarkali come first and got success,but mughle azam which was declaired flop,became a big blockbuster

3.There were talks that both looks similer..there might be,but not for me,madhubala is lifetime beauty..

4.Most big thing which pinched me Filmfare Award,Madhubala was deserving this award,but it went to Beena Rai,she might be good in that film,but not at her best the way madhubala was..if u dont know abt ghoonghat,let me tell u ghar ghar ki kahani(1988)starring rishi,jayaprada,anita raj,govinda n farha was inspired from ghoonghat..but see tday we remember Madhubala n Mughle Azam,but nobody is knowing much abt Ghoonghat and Bina Rai

i give u 4 reasons why i dont like bina rai much


Jassi, has it ever occurred 2 you that you might be just a little prejudiced? tongue1.gif

Bina Rai is allright, but she shows a little too much teeth at times; rolleyes.gif the younger Madhuri Dixit also received a lot of flak for this in her time.

As 4 Ghunghat, I've seen the movie too. She plays the role of Pradeep Kr's wife while he is deeply in love with Asha Parekh. Very stale concept, and her's was no meaty role that she shud be expected 2 produce Meena ji style histrionics.

Have you seen her in Aurat? She stars opp her real life hubby Premnath.

I don't mind revealing here that to me he comfortably fits in the ugly as hell category. cool.gif

Reeth is quite familiar with the other famous names on that list. tongue1.gif

Noorie



jassi
may be u r right..i have not got to watch much of her work..and there is not enough information abt her availble on net too

Premnath was fine actor..may be not as leading but as character actor he was simply grt..in raj kapoor,raj kumar kohli,firoze khan n manoj kumar's films
maheshks
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Ummer
QUOTE(maheshks @ Apr 27 2007, 09:01 AM) *

OK now recognise this lady biggrin.gif

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Never seen her before... pretty eyes though wink2.gif Is that really a girl though?
Ummer
QUOTE(jassi @ Apr 27 2007, 08:27 AM) *

may be u r right..i have not got to watch much of her work..and there is not enough information abt her availble on net too

Premnath was fine actor..may be not as leading but as character actor he was simply grt..in raj kapoor,raj kumar kohli,firoze khan n manoj kumar's films


After Bina Roy's marriage with Prem Nath, they both decided that they will only work as pair and their films started to flop. After marriage she tried to make a come back, but that freshness was gone. It is said that Bina's urge to face the camera + fame was so strong that even in old age she was dreaming about it.

There was an article on the net long time ago that Bina Roy-PremNath granddaughter is making her debut in Bollywood, I dont know what happened to her.
Ummer
QUOTE(jassi @ Apr 27 2007, 07:51 AM) *

Suraiya was mainly 40s star,in 50s she was fading actress,i never got to watch any of her film

i guess she was something against dilip kumar,coz i read somewhere she refused to work with dilip kumar in some film called jaanwar by saying that main kisi jaanwar ke saath kaam nahi karungi(i m not goin to work with any jaanwar aka animal) and also refused devdas...


Except Mirza Ghalib, all of Suraiya's movies in the 50's flopped. Many reasons are cited for this... arrival of Lata as playback singer and end of singing star era, failed romance with Dev Anand, Suraiya gaining weight and making wrong decisions in the selections of films. "Nagin" which established Vyjantimala was offered first to Suraiya, but she declined...

Also her rivalry with Nargis was the most famous one... both couldn't tolerate each other. Lots and lots have been written about their rivalry, Suraiya and Nargis Moms were bitter arch rivals. Suraiya Mom's commented that Nargis looks like Papaya and Nargis Mom made similar remark about Suraiya. Suraiya mentioned that Nargis was very envious of her... in the 40s when Nargis was struggling actress and Suraiya was big star. Ofcourse it all changed after the arrival of Lata and the release of Andaz.

According to Raju Bharatan book on Lata, there were also rumours that Suraiya tried to destroy Lata's voice by offering her poisoned meetha paan. Suraiya ofcourse shrugged these rumors off, and Lata after the death of Suraiya paid rich tributes to her and said, some people tried to create bad blood between us, but thanks God me and Suraiya always remained in good terms. In Lata's Biography, Suraiya also paid rich tributes to Lata and how Suraiya was amazed at Lata's singing ability when they recorded their first duet together "O pardesi Musafir". Suraiya said "NOOR JEHAN WAS BORN GREAT, LATA ACHIEVED GREATNESS AND SINGING GREATNESS WAS THRUST UPON ME".

According to the book on Madhubala, in "Mahal" Suraiya was replaced by Madhubala and because of that Suraiya never forgave Madhubala. During the shooting of Singaar (their only film together), if Suraiya asked for one close up, Madhubala made sure that she got 3 close ups and all that stuff.. It was the producer/director of this film who ended up with getting headache in the end. biggrin.gif
Ummer
QUOTE(maheshks @ Apr 27 2007, 07:06 AM) *

QUOTE(Ummer @ Apr 27 2007, 11:16 AM) *

QUOTE(Reeth @ Apr 23 2007, 02:56 PM) *

QUOTE(Ummer @ Apr 23 2007, 10:36 AM) *

QUOTE(Reeth @ Apr 18 2007, 04:41 PM) *

SURAIYA (June 15, 1929 - January 31, 2004

Suriya was perhaps the last of the Great singing stars...Born in Lahore, she was an only child.She began her acting career by playing bit roles as a child artiste,between the years 1937-1941.Her major film was TajMahal in 1941.....She did playback as a 13 year old for actress Mehtaab in Sharda(1942)
She was launched as a singing star in Bombay talkies Hamaari Baat(1943).She initially started by playing powerful secondary roles in films like Phool, Anmol Ghadi and Dard,..Her singing career found a mentor in music maestro naushad...K.L.Saigal recommended her as heroine for Tadbir in 1945,she co starred with Saigal in Omar Khayyam and Parwana. In 1947 after the partition when Major actresses Noor jehan and Khurshid migrated to Pakistan, more opportunities appeared for Suraiya....

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The Year 1948 - 1949 were the best for her career...She had three major hits Pyar ki Jeet, Badi bahen and Dillagi and she became the highest paid Female Star.At her peak Suriaya generated hysteria among the masses...Her songs were a craze....Her songs like Tere nainon ne chori kiya, Woh paas rahe ya door rahe...Bigdi bananewale, murliwale murli bajaa were hummed in every nook and corner of the country..

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while shooting for the film Vidya Suraiya fell in love with Dev Anand and the two of them did six films together....Afsar,shayar,Do sitare,Jeet,Nili , none of them hits, suraiya had no regrets as their love flourished...But suraiya's grandmother opposed the relationship . Suraiya remained unmarried all her life...Their love story was the stuff legends are made of...


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She made a hit pair with Talat mehmood in movies like Maalik and Waris.... In 1954 she gave her finest dramatic performance in Mirza Ghalib, in the role of a courtesan, the married Ghalib's lover.....her songs in this film are eternal classics...Yeh na thi hamare kismat, Dil e naadan tujhe hua kya hai..

Some of her memorable films
Anmolghadi pyar ki jeet
Waris
Afsar
Sanam
Malik
Mirza Ghalib
Deewana
Mashooqa
Vidya
Shama
Rustom Sohrab
Click to view attachment Click to view attachment

Suraiya's films startrd flopping in the fifties.....followed some indifferent films, and finally in 1963 after acting in Rustom Soharb with Prithviraj Kapoor she bade farewell to the studios....
She retreated into a world surrounded by her close family..
She died in 2004 ,at the age of 75....
Click to view attachment Click to view attachment Click to view attachment

Suriya's Films and songs continue to thrive on speculations,lore and memories....


Suraiya was born in Gujranwala... not Lahore. I haven't seen Mirza Ghalib, but my favorite Suraiya's movie as an actress is Dastaan with Raj Kapoor. As a singer... I like most of her movies. biggrin.gif Badi Behan was also a nice watchable movie, but I didn't like Dillagi at all...

Anmol Ghadi was also a nice movie... I also find Suraiya more charming than Noor Jehan in this film + I liked Suraiya's songs better than Noor Jehan. Noor Jehan was pregnant at that time I think, and she looks plumpy and bubbly and her acting was completely wooden in the movie.

Noor Jehan best movies (as an actress) came after partition and she looks very pretty in Koel and Intezar.


I have referred to several sources and by all accounts she was born in lahore and later moved to Bombay....wikipedia is the only site on where her birth place is mentioned as Gujranwala, Punjab...


I dont think Suraiya started her career as early as 1937... her first film was as child artiste was Taj Mahal (1941). Incidentally,PrithivirajKapoor was the hero of her first and last film as heroine (Ishara - 1943 and Rustom Sohrab - 1963). She acted with three Kapoors (father + 2 sons) - Raj Kapoor in Dastaan, Shammi Kapoor in Shama Parwana and Prithviraj Kapoor as mentioned above. According to Devinder Bir Kaur "Thus, by the age of 12, she was doing the heroine’s role in Ishara. She was so skinny that they had to pad her all over! And, what was more, she was opposite the ‘grand old man of the Indian screen’, namely Prithviraj Kapoor, who was in his mid-40s. Like everyone in the unit, she too called him ‘Papaji’! Prithviraj admitted that it was difficult romancing with a girl he would call ‘daughter’ when the camera wasn’t whirring. "


Ummer I think Suraiya's first role in the movies was in "Station Master". It appears
that Mumtaj Mahal got released first. Refer to Naushad Saab's comments at her death
and of the late VijayBhatt of Prakash Pictures. They both said it was for the
movie "station master" that suraiya was introduced as singing child star.
The production of the movie started in 1940. You must have downloaded
the video clip of her first song that I uploaded in my thread.


Yeah Mahesh Bhai you are right... In any case, she didn't start her career in 1937.
Ummer
QUOTE(Reeth @ Apr 25 2007, 04:33 PM) *

QUOTE(NATURE @ Apr 24 2007, 07:36 PM) *

thank you very much reeth for the article on meena kumari, mahajabeen bano was truly beautiful,
a sweet person and a fantastic actor. she lacks absolutely nothing. i recall many and so many things,
bits and bytes of her life my mom used to tell when i was a child/teenager.

her "Chandan ka Palna" is one of her movies that i cherish.

one fact, that i always felt sad is that she was a tragic queen in her real life.
please put more and more about her including pics.

looking forward to your elegant articles.

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Thanks a lot Nature for all the lovely pics ...
I have seen quite a few of Meena kumari's films along wit my mom who is a great fan of hers...
i liked Kohinoor, Yahudi, Azad among the lighter ones and Pakeezah definitely one of her best movies, Sahib bibi aur ghulam , phool aur patthar, Aarti and few more.....The most depressing of the lot was 'Daera' directed by Kamal Amrohi.....but it had a classy song, a bhajan'devta tum ho mera sahara......great song sung by Mohammad rafi and mubarak begum.... rolleyes.gif



Just a passing info... Kamal Amrohi's niece (Kamal's brother's daughter) was librarian at our school in Kuwait. Her name was Hasnaini. Their family was settled in Karachi.
Reeth
QUOTE(noorie @ Apr 27 2007, 06:42 PM) *

QUOTE(jassi @ Apr 27 2007, 11:56 AM) *

i m more madhubala fan,and i felt without a reason beena was always compared with legendry beauty

1.Madhubala was said to be having affair with premnath,but later he married beena rai..(i guess after madhubala's break up with dilip,prem was new man in her life,but he went for bina rai..well i too wud not have like madhubala n premnath together.. but i do like premnath as an actor

2.Madhubala was all set to play anarkali when nargis walked out of mughle azam,but at the same time an another film was announced anarkali with bina rai..mughle azam took too much time to get complete..n anarkali come first and got success,but mughle azam which was declaired flop,became a big blockbuster

3.There were talks that both looks similer..there might be,but not for me,madhubala is lifetime beauty..

4.Most big thing which pinched me Filmfare Award,Madhubala was deserving this award,but it went to Beena Rai,she might be good in that film,but not at her best the way madhubala was..if u dont know abt ghoonghat,let me tell u ghar ghar ki kahani(1988)starring rishi,jayaprada,anita raj,govinda n farha was inspired from ghoonghat..but see tday we remember Madhubala n Mughle Azam,but nobody is knowing much abt Ghoonghat and Bina Rai

i give u 4 reasons why i dont like bina rai much


Jassi, has it ever occurred 2 you that you might be just a little prejudiced? tongue1.gif

Bina Rai is allright, but she shows a little too much teeth at times; rolleyes.gif the younger Madhuri Dixit also received a lot of flak for this in her time.

As 4 Ghunghat, I've seen the movie too. She plays the role of Pradeep Kr's wife while he is deeply in love with Asha Parekh. Very stale concept, and her's was no meaty role that she shud be expected 2 produce Meena ji style histrionics.

Have you seen her in Aurat? She stars opp her real life hubby Premnath.

I don't mind revealing here that to me he comfortably fits in the ugly as hell category. cool.gif

Reeth is quite familiar with the other famous names on that list. tongue1.gif Noorie

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Reeth
QUOTE(Ummer @ Apr 28 2007, 08:37 AM) *

QUOTE(maheshks @ Apr 27 2007, 07:06 AM) *

QUOTE(Ummer @ Apr 27 2007, 11:16 AM) *

QUOTE(Reeth @ Apr 23 2007, 02:56 PM) *

QUOTE(Ummer @ Apr 23 2007, 10:36 AM) *

QUOTE(Reeth @ Apr 18 2007, 04:41 PM) *

SURAIYA (June 15, 1929 - January 31, 2004

Suriya was perhaps the last of the Great singing stars...Born in Lahore, she was an only child.She began her acting career by playing bit roles as a child artiste,between the years 1937-1941.Her major film was TajMahal in 1941.....She did playback as a 13 year old for actress Mehtaab in Sharda(1942)
She was launched as a singing star in Bombay talkies Hamaari Baat(1943).She initially started by playing powerful secondary roles in films like Phool, Anmol Ghadi and Dard,..Her singing career found a mentor in music maestro naushad...K.L.Saigal recommended her as heroine for Tadbir in 1945,she co starred with Saigal in Omar Khayyam and Parwana. In 1947 after the partition when Major actresses Noor jehan and Khurshid migrated to Pakistan, more opportunities appeared for Suraiya....

Click to view attachment Click to view attachment Click to view attachment

The Year 1948 - 1949 were the best for her career...She had three major hits Pyar ki Jeet, Badi bahen and Dillagi and she became the highest paid Female Star.At her peak Suriaya generated hysteria among the masses...Her songs were a craze....Her songs like Tere nainon ne chori kiya, Woh paas rahe ya door rahe...Bigdi bananewale, murliwale murli bajaa were hummed in every nook and corner of the country..

Click to view attachment Click to view attachment

while shooting for the film Vidya Suraiya fell in love with Dev Anand and the two of them did six films together....Afsar,shayar,Do sitare,Jeet,Nili , none of them hits, suraiya had no regrets as their love flourished...But suraiya's grandmother opposed the relationship . Suraiya remained unmarried all her life...Their love story was the stuff legends are made of...


Click to view attachment Click to view attachment

She made a hit pair with Talat mehmood in movies like Maalik and Waris.... In 1954 she gave her finest dramatic performance in Mirza Ghalib, in the role of a courtesan, the married Ghalib's lover.....her songs in this film are eternal classics...Yeh na thi hamare kismat, Dil e naadan tujhe hua kya hai..

Some of her memorable films
Anmolghadi pyar ki jeet
Waris
Afsar
Sanam
Malik
Mirza Ghalib
Deewana
Mashooqa
Vidya
Shama
Rustom Sohrab
Click to view attachment Click to view attachment

Suraiya's films startrd flopping in the fifties.....followed some indifferent films, and finally in 1963 after acting in Rustom Soharb with Prithviraj Kapoor she bade farewell to the studios....
She retreated into a world surrounded by her close family..
She died in 2004 ,at the age of 75....
Click to view attachment Click to view attachment Click to view attachment

Suriya's Films and songs continue to thrive on speculations,lore and memories....


Suraiya was born in Gujranwala... not Lahore. I haven't seen Mirza Ghalib, but my favorite Suraiya's movie as an actress is Dastaan with Raj Kapoor. As a singer... I like most of her movies. biggrin.gif Badi Behan was also a nice watchable movie, but I didn't like Dillagi at all...

Anmol Ghadi was also a nice movie... I also find Suraiya more charming than Noor Jehan in this film + I liked Suraiya's songs better than Noor Jehan. Noor Jehan was pregnant at that time I think, and she looks plumpy and bubbly and her acting was completely wooden in the movie.

Noor Jehan best movies (as an actress) came after partition and she looks very pretty in Koel and Intezar.


I have referred to several sources and by all accounts she was born in lahore and later moved to Bombay....wikipedia is the only site on where her birth place is mentioned as Gujranwala, Punjab...


I dont think Suraiya started her career as early as 1937... her first film was as child artiste was Taj Mahal (1941). Incidentally,PrithivirajKapoor was the hero of her first and last film as heroine (Ishara - 1943 and Rustom Sohrab - 1963). She acted with three Kapoors (father + 2 sons) - Raj Kapoor in Dastaan, Shammi Kapoor in Shama Parwana and Prithviraj Kapoor as mentioned above. According to Devinder Bir Kaur "Thus, by the age of 12, she was doing the heroine’s role in Ishara. She was so skinny that they had to pad her all over! And, what was more, she was opposite the ‘grand old man of the Indian screen’, namely Prithviraj Kapoor, who was in his mid-40s. Like everyone in the unit, she too called him ‘Papaji’! Prithviraj admitted that it was difficult romancing with a girl he would call ‘daughter’ when the camera wasn’t whirring. "


Ummer I think Suraiya's first role in the movies was in "Station Master". It appears
that Mumtaj Mahal got released first. Refer to Naushad Saab's comments at her death
and of the late VijayBhatt of Prakash Pictures. They both said it was for the
movie "station master" that suraiya was introduced as singing child star.
The production of the movie started in 1940. You must have downloaded
the video clip of her first song that I uploaded in my thread.


Yeah Mahesh Bhai you are right... In any case, she didn't start her career in 1937


You seem very stubborn in your belief...so be it......tho' as per all the sources she did start her career in 1937 as a child artite...
jassi
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OK now recognise this lady biggrin.gif

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Never seen her before... pretty eyes though wink2.gif Is that really a girl though?


i guess durga khote..

jassi
but why suraiya refused to work with dilip kumar..if it was becoz of dev anand..like nargis too walked out some of films starring dilip..its said bcoz of raj kapoor...
jassi
bina rai's granddaughter made her debut in 2002 with her father's home production(prem kishan,i guess he did dulhan wohi jo piya mann bhaye)..yeh mohabbat hai..film was flopped...later she was seen in films like loc and garv...she is married now
jassi
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Reeth
Is it Begum Para??
jassi
right sir
maheshks
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OK now recognise this lady biggrin.gif

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Never seen her before... pretty eyes though wink2.gif Is that really a girl though?



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OK now recognise this lady biggrin.gif

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Never seen her before... pretty eyes though wink2.gif Is that really a girl though?


i guess durga khote..


Maar khaa gaye bachoo. She was a famous heroine during late 30s and early 40s.
Was the heroine of a block buster released during early 40s. All of you have
seen that movie. Here is another photograph of her :

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noorie
It isn't 'Fearless' Nadia, is it? unsure.gif

Noorie
Ummer
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but why suraiya refused to work with dilip kumar..if it was becoz of dev anand..like nargis too walked out some of films starring dilip..its said bcoz of raj kapoor...


Maybe bcoz Dilip Kumar was known for his rude behavior? He said to Nadira that she was the most despicable creature he ever met on the sets of Aan. And he also made a similar comment about Lata's Urdu pronounciation as Lata was Marathi. ninja.gif Maybe he made a similar comment about Suraiya too... tongue1.gif
Ummer
QUOTE(noorie @ Apr 28 2007, 11:59 AM) *

It isn't 'Fearless' Nadia, is it? unsure.gif

Noorie


O ho! Noorie... How could it be Fearless Nadia? tongue1.gif Read Mahesh ji hints carefully... Either Leela Chitnis or Mumtaz Shanti ?
Ummer
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guess who she is


Begum Para! wink2.gif
sbfan
can anyone tell something more about begum para
noorie
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but why suraiya refused to work with dilip kumar..if it was becoz of dev anand..like nargis too walked out some of films starring dilip..its said bcoz of raj kapoor...


Maybe bcoz Dilip Kumar was known for his rude behavior? He said to Nadira that she was the most despicable creature he ever met on the sets of Aan. And he also made a similar comment about Lata's Urdu pronounciation as Lata was Marathi. ninja.gif Maybe he made a similar comment about Suraiya too... tongue1.gif


"Rude" ? I wudn't agree Ummer.
I like his outspokenness. It's a pleasing quality according to me. rolleyes.gif
Evidently other women thought so too;.....................Madhubala, Saira Bano tongue1.gif

Noorie
Ummer
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SURAIYA (June 15, 1929 - January 31, 2004

Suriya was perhaps the last of the Great singing stars...Born in Lahore, she was an only child.She began her acting career by playing bit roles as a child artiste,between the years 1937-1941.Her major film was TajMahal in 1941.....She did playback as a 13 year old for actress Mehtaab in Sharda(1942)
She was launched as a singing star in Bombay talkies Hamaari Baat(1943).She initially started by playing powerful secondary roles in films like Phool, Anmol Ghadi and Dard,..Her singing career found a mentor in music maestro naushad...K.L.Saigal recommended her as heroine for Tadbir in 1945,she co starred with Saigal in Omar Khayyam and Parwana. In 1947 after the partition when Major actresses Noor jehan and Khurshid migrated to Pakistan, more opportunities appeared for Suraiya....

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The Year 1948 - 1949 were the best for her career...She had three major hits Pyar ki Jeet, Badi bahen and Dillagi and she became the highest paid Female Star.At her peak Suriaya generated hysteria among the masses...Her songs were a craze....Her songs like Tere nainon ne chori kiya, Woh paas rahe ya door rahe...Bigdi bananewale, murliwale murli bajaa were hummed in every nook and corner of the country..

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while shooting for the film Vidya Suraiya fell in love with Dev Anand and the two of them did six films together....Afsar,shayar,Do sitare,Jeet,Nili , none of them hits, suraiya had no regrets as their love flourished...But suraiya's grandmother opposed the relationship . Suraiya remained unmarried all her life...Their love story was the stuff legends are made of...


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She made a hit pair with Talat mehmood in movies like Maalik and Waris.... In 1954 she gave her finest dramatic performance in Mirza Ghalib, in the role of a courtesan, the married Ghalib's lover.....her songs in this film are eternal classics...Yeh na thi hamare kismat, Dil e naadan tujhe hua kya hai..

Some of her memorable films
Anmolghadi pyar ki jeet
Waris
Afsar
Sanam
Malik
Mirza Ghalib
Deewana
Mashooqa
Vidya
Shama
Rustom Sohrab
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Suraiya's films startrd flopping in the fifties.....followed some indifferent films, and finally in 1963 after acting in Rustom Soharb with Prithviraj Kapoor she bade farewell to the studios....
She retreated into a world surrounded by her close family..
She died in 2004 ,at the age of 75....
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Suriya's Films and songs continue to thrive on speculations,lore and memories....


Suraiya was born in Gujranwala... not Lahore. I haven't seen Mirza Ghalib, but my favorite Suraiya's movie as an actress is Dastaan with Raj Kapoor. As a singer... I like most of her movies. biggrin.gif Badi Behan was also a nice watchable movie, but I didn't like Dillagi at all...

Anmol Ghadi was also a nice movie... I also find Suraiya more charming than Noor Jehan in this film + I liked Suraiya's songs better than Noor Jehan. Noor Jehan was pregnant at that time I think, and she looks plumpy and bubbly and her acting was completely wooden in the movie.

Noor Jehan best movies (as an actress) came after partition and she looks very pretty in Koel and Intezar.


I have referred to several sources and by all accounts she was born in lahore and later moved to Bombay....wikipedia is the only site on where her birth place is mentioned as Gujranwala, Punjab...


I dont think Suraiya started her career as early as 1937... her first film was as child artiste was Taj Mahal (1941). Incidentally,PrithivirajKapoor was the hero of her first and last film as heroine (Ishara - 1943 and Rustom Sohrab - 1963). She acted with three Kapoors (father + 2 sons) - Raj Kapoor in Dastaan, Shammi Kapoor in Shama Parwana and Prithviraj Kapoor as mentioned above. According to Devinder Bir Kaur "Thus, by the age of 12, she was doing the heroine’s role in Ishara. She was so skinny that they had to pad her all over! And, what was more, she was opposite the ‘grand old man of the Indian screen’, namely Prithviraj Kapoor, who was in his mid-40s. Like everyone in the unit, she too called him ‘Papaji’! Prithviraj admitted that it was difficult romancing with a girl he would call ‘daughter’ when the camera wasn’t whirring. "


Ummer I think Suraiya's first role in the movies was in "Station Master". It appears
that Mumtaj Mahal got released first. Refer to Naushad Saab's comments at her death
and of the late VijayBhatt of Prakash Pictures. They both said it was for the
movie "station master" that suraiya was introduced as singing child star.
The production of the movie started in 1940. You must have downloaded
the video clip of her first song that I uploaded in my thread.


Yeah Mahesh Bhai you are right... In any case, she didn't start her career in 1937


You seem very stubborn in your belief...so be it......tho' as per all the sources she did start her career in 1937 as a child artite...



I am not stubborn in my belief Reeth. There were other Suraiya's working in the film industry at that time too including Suraiya Chaudary and Suraiya Shamsi. It is very common to mix-up the films of the well known Stars with obscure film stars of the same name. It happened with the filmography of Noor Jehan too as there was another Noor Jehan working in the film industry in films like Laila and Sophia etc. Suraiya herself mentioned that she made her debut in 1941 and was discovered by Naushad.

Suraiya - by Sultan Arshad (Images Dawn, Pakistani Newspaper).

I had the privilege of meeting actress Suraiya and having lengthy conversations with her on several occasions during my tenure as chief representative of our national airline in Bombay, in the nineties. It was during those meetings that she narrated several interesting anecdotes concerning different phases of her career and the impact of some of the master composers on her style of singing. Such as how Anil'da (Biswas) taught her to breathe in while singing so that it was not caught by the microphone or how Khwaja Saheb (Khursheed Anwer) would lean over the harmonium, with his long hair covering half of his face, while singing a tune to her: Naushad Saheb put her to rigorous rehearsals even when she used to be dead tired after marathon shooting schedules: or how while recording her first song as a child she was made to stand on a wooden stool in order to reach the height of the microphone.


She often recalled fondly the days when as a child from her Marine Drive residence she would walk down to All India Radio (A.I.R.) studio to participate in the children's programme in which Raj Kapoor and Madan Mohan who later attained fame as an actor, a film maker and music director respectively, used to be her co-artists. The legendary Z.A.Bukhari was then the station director at the A.I.R. Bombay.


Suraiya entered the film industry as a child actress with Taj Mahal (1941), for which maestro S.D. Burman, who was till then known for his Bengali songs, rendered his first Hindi song Prem ki pyaari nishani under the musical baton of Madhulal Master. Suraiya's next assignment was for Tamanna (1942), for which she also rendered her first song (Jaago aayi usha), a duet with then budding singer Mannadey. It was tuned by Manna's uncle the well known singer, music director and actor K.C. Dey.


After few other rather insignificant singing and acting assignments (Ujala, Station Master) maestro Naushad selected her as the playback voice for leading lady Mehtab in Sharda (1942). The movie became a turning point in Suraiya's career as a singer, with two of her songs Panchhi ja, peechhe raha hai bachpan mera and Mere dil ko sajan samjhado becoming very popular. Incidentally, Mehtab was the only actress to whom Suraiya lent her voice in three movies (Sharda, Qanoon and Sanjog). It was quite an incidence per force, that many years later in a female duet situation in Shama (1961) besides singing for herself, she became the ghost voice for Nimmi as well when the other singer Suman Kalyanpur failed to dub her portion of the song. Also two of her songs (Hawa uda kar layi, O bewafa karke jafa - music: Dhani Ram) recorded for an incomplete movie of her's, were later included in another film Taqdeer (1958) and picturized on its leading lady Shyama.


Suraiya graduated to adult roles with Ishara (1943), playing second lead opposite small-timer Satish with Prithviraj Kapoor and Swarnlata playing the leading roles. In this movie she had only two songs to her credit, a solo (Panghat pe muraliya baaje) and a duet (Baaghon mein koyal boli) with Satish. In Station Master and Ishara her voice was used for the character she played. In Anmol Ghadi she was the third angle of the love triangle, the other two being Noor Jehan and Surendranath. She sang three songs in it.


There is no denying the fact that Naushad Ali, Husnlal - Bhagat Ram and Khursheed Anwer played significant roles in Suraiya's career but such stalwarts as Anil Biswas, S.D. Burman and Ghulam Mohammad also enhanced her popularity as a singer. Then there were other music directors she teamed up with just once or twice but rendered some extremely melodious though not so popular numbers.


In a career spanning 22 years, Suraiya sung in five or six films and acted in approximately 65 movies which do not include the incomplete ones like Jaanwar (with Dilip Kumar) and Paagal Khaana (with Bharat Bhushan).


From the late forties to the early fifties she remained the highest paid as well as the most worshipped star of the Indian cinema. Even now when she makes a rare appearance in a public function, bejewelled and bedecked, she is revered and admired more than most of the stars of today. The aura remains.
Ummer
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QUOTE(jassi @ Apr 27 2007, 11:36 PM) *

but why suraiya refused to work with dilip kumar..if it was becoz of dev anand..like nargis too walked out some of films starring dilip..its said bcoz of raj kapoor...


Maybe bcoz Dilip Kumar was known for his rude behavior? He said to Nadira that she was the most despicable creature he ever met on the sets of Aan. And he also made a similar comment about Lata's Urdu pronounciation as Lata was Marathi. ninja.gif Maybe he made a similar comment about Suraiya too... tongue1.gif


"Rude" ? I wudn't agree Ummer.
I like his outspokenness. It's a pleasing quality according to me. rolleyes.gif
Evidently other women thought so too;.....................Madhubala, Saira Bano tongue1.gif

Noorie


Calling someone despicable is outspokenness? ninja.gif Nadira said she didn't know what despicable means and she checked the dictionary when she went home, as she thought Dilip Kumar was paying her a compliment. tongue1.gif About Lata he said that Marathi mouth smells like (I dont remember the exact comment though) when she was travelling with Anil Biswas. Lata didn't took that comment negatively though and worked very hard on her Urdu diction.
noorie
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QUOTE(noorie @ Apr 28 2007, 11:59 AM) *

It isn't 'Fearless' Nadia, is it? unsure.gif

Noorie


O ho! Noorie... How could it be Fearless Nadia? tongue1.gif Read Mahesh ji hints carefully... Either Leela Chitnis or Mumtaz Shanti ?


You are right Ummer, I think it cud be Leela Chitnis.
Please confirm Mahesh. smile.gif

Else my mind will start playing tricks on me and even imagine that it is Shobhna Samarth. tongue1.gif

Noorie
noorie
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QUOTE(noorie @ Apr 28 2007, 02:02 PM) *

QUOTE(Ummer @ Apr 29 2007, 12:19 AM) *

QUOTE(jassi @ Apr 27 2007, 11:36 PM) *

but why suraiya refused to work with dilip kumar..if it was becoz of dev anand..like nargis too walked out some of films starring dilip..its said bcoz of raj kapoor...


Maybe bcoz Dilip Kumar was known for his rude behavior? He said to Nadira that she was the most despicable creature he ever met on the sets of Aan. And he also made a similar comment about Lata's Urdu pronounciation as Lata was Marathi. ninja.gif Maybe he made a similar comment about Suraiya too... tongue1.gif


"Rude" ? I wudn't agree Ummer.
I like his outspokenness. It's a pleasing quality according to me. rolleyes.gif
Evidently other women thought so too;.....................Madhubala, Saira Bano tongue1.gif

Noorie


Calling someone despicable is outspokenness? ninja.gif Nadira said she didn't know what despicable means and she checked the dictionary when she went home, as she thought Dilip Kumar was paying her a compliment. tongue1.gif About Lata he said that Marathi mouth smells like (I dont remember the exact comment though) when she was travelling with Anil Biswas. Lata didn't took that comment negatively though and worked very hard on her Urdu diction.


A Maharashtrian, speaking Urdu 'zubaan', wud retain the flavor of "daal-bhaat"( dal and rice ) - read vegetarian. tongue1.gif

Lata ji proved him wrong, didn't she?

Noorie
Ummer
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can anyone tell something more about begum para


Begum Para was a B-Grade actress mostly paired with Sheikh Mukhtar in films like Ustad Pedro etc. After partition she along with Mehboob Khan and some other established film stars visited Karachi-Pakistan to see if the condition was right to work there. But seeing the non-existent film industry they all went back to India. Although Mehboob Khan's younger brother Pyare Khan and Begum Para's sister stayed back. Here is the detailed interview of Begum Para

MS OOMPH - by V Gangadhar

Somewhere in 1953, Fort Cochin in Kerala was hit by a bomb. I was then in school there and thoroughly enjoyed the experience.

The bomb was called Begum Para. And it came packaged in a Hindi film, Ustad Pedro, produced and directed by the then well-known actor, Sheikh Mukhtar. Mukhtar was tall, well-built and ruggedly handsome. But he had very stiff competition in Begum Para, unanimously acknowledged to be Bollywood's sex bomb.

The film magazines called her the oomph girl, the girl with 'it'. Whatever she had, Para set my blood flowing. She had sultry, come-hither looks, an eye-popping figure, one she was not afraid to show off. She wore trousers, tight dresses and danced enticingly to the tunes of western music.

Ustad Pedro was a fun film. It was packed with action, romance, stunts and, of course, that wonderful, curvaceous woman. As Sheikh Mukhtar carried off the prized heroine at the end of the film, all the boys watching the film sighed enviously.

Hindi screen had its quota of women with smouldering good looks, who dressed seductively and who were ready to respond positively to a pass from the admiring male. But such women were normally cast as vamps because most heroines had to look virginal and god-fearing and play second fiddle to the heroes.

Not Begum Para. Her sexuality on the screen was electric. Film magazines of those days wrote endlessly about the frank utterances and open lifestyles of Begim Para and her sister-in-law, Protima Dasgupta. She was not a hypocrite, she always called a spade a spade.

I learnt this when I dropped in at her small flat in suburban Versova. The cool breeze from the sea was welcome, but not the stench of drying fish. The drawing room was full of photographs. Of Para's late husband Nasir Khan, her two sons and daughter. There are books everywhere. Enid Blyton for the grand-daughter along with classics -- theIliad, the Odyssey, the works of D H Lawrence as well as pulp fiction by Ludlum and Collins.

The passage of time had taken its toll. Begum Para had bloated up, the hair has greyed and she moved around with difficulty. There was little sign of who she once was. But once she began to speak, the old magic reappeared like abracadbra.

She had endured a lot in recent years. Nasir Khan died in 1974. He was just 49 and she had to bring up three children on her own. For years there was a long misunderstanding with her brother-in-law Dilip Kumar (she refused to talk about it) and the family bungalow on upmarket Carter Road had to be sold. One son, Ayub, works in films (he was most recently seen in Mrityudand), another son and her daughter are in advertising. Life had not been easy for the family, but then Begum Para, by all accounts, had always been a fighter.

The early days, though, were peaceful and happy. The family came from Jalandhar but moved to Bikaner, where her father Mian-Ehsan-Ul-Haque became the chief justice. The family was large, 10 in all, but they had lots of fun and the indulgent parents often joined in.

Para went to school and then college at Aligarh. Hostel life was quite pleasant. While sticking to tradition, her family was quite broad-minded. "We never wore purdah or anything like that," she explains.

"We were allowed to watch films and I enjoyed the experience." One of her earliest heroes, was the debonair Motilal. "I wrote fan letters to him, and he always replied. Later, when I joined films, we became good friends."

Still in her early teens, Begum Para came to Bombay to spend her holidays with sister-in-law Protima Dasgupta who was already acting in films like Court Dancer. Her home was frequented by film people. Perky, pretty Para invited instant attention and producers promptly offered her roles. Dasgupta persuaded her to accept some of the offers.

"My family was not very happy," recalls Para. "But finally, Protima and I convinced them." Born plain Para, she added a Begum to her name.

Thus it was that a nervous, excited, young girl of 17 faced the camera for the first time in her life on the sets of Chand. Her co-star was Prem Adib, a famous hero in those days. The film was shot at Prabhat Studio in Pune and was a family social.

"Oh, I had no acting experience at all," she laughs. "But director B D Kashyap was very understanding and patient, and made me feel at ease."

Did you have any love scenes, I asked. "Oh, very innocent ones," she smiled. "The lead pair looked at each other, sang songs and perhaps held hands. Films in those days were so different. But everyone on the sets, including Prem Adib, were very co-operative."

Chand was fairly successful. Para did not look back and settled down to a film career in Bombay, sharing a flat with her sister-in-law at Worli Sea Face. From 1945, for over 10 years, she made several movies -- Sohini Mahiwal, Mehendi, Shama, Pedro, Dada, Dara, the last three with the swashbuckling Sheikh Mukhtar. The films did well at the box office.

"I played emotional roles and also essayed roles of fashionable women," she remembers. The "it" image was a big thing in those days. Para often wore pants and jeans, dressed provocatively and championed an unconventional lifestyle. Naturally, she was regularly featured in film magazines.

"I had a good figure, and I knew I had one," she laughed. "And if the magazines wanted to feature me in provocative poses, I did not mind".

While her career was going strong, she met Nasir Khan (Dilip Kumar's brother) on the sets of Lootera. Nasir had made a name for himself with some good films with Nutan. "We liked each other, but it was not love at first sight."

They began meeting more often and got married in 1958. Did their families support the marriage, I asked.

"Oh, we were old enough to do what we wanted." she replied diplomatically.

Nasir Khan did not want her to act and she quit the screen. "I was quite happy to stay at home and look after the family," she says. Nasir Khan had a heart condition which he chose to neglect, and a heart attack claimed him in 1974.

It was a shattering blow and she had to face the crisis alone. For about 18 months, she went to Karachi and lived with her sister, who had settled down in Pakistan. "But India was my home and I was back to bring up my children," she explained.

It was then she missed her work in films. As long as Nasir Khan was alive, life had been smooth. But now many adjustments had to be made. But she managed to bring up her children and settle them in life.

Looking back on her career in films, she says she had not taken it very seriously. "It was fun and interesting while it lasted."

She cherished her friendships formed during those days. Nargis and Geeta Bali were close friends. So were, Motilal, Nimmi, Nirupa Roy, Nadira, Shyama and Manorama.

A couple of days before our meeting. Nirupa, Nimmi and Shyama had dropped in for a chat. "We meet quite often," laughed Begum Para. "We talk, gossip, laugh... They are wonderful people". While I was chatting with her, the telephone rang. It was another friend, kathak queen Sitara Devi. They agreed to meet later that evening.

She thinks highly of Motilal, Dilip Kumar, Amitabh Bachchan and Naseeruddin Shah. Among today's heroines, she says Kajol is the best. "Oh, that girl lights up the screen with her presence," she exclaims.

It was time to leave. We had chatted for nearly two hours. But I was certain about one thing. In my book of interesting people she goes down as Genuine Stuff!
sbfan
actually when naushad made lata meet dilip by saying that this is new girl marathi one as singer. then he commented ke narathi singers se daal bhaat ki boo aati hai..
Ummer
QUOTE(sbfan @ Apr 28 2007, 02:24 PM) *

actually when naushad made lata meet dilip by saying that this is new girl marathi one as singer. then he commented ke narathi singers se daal bhaat ki boo aati hai..


Yeah that comment! It was Anil Biswas not Naushad.
sbfan
and it was some meeting on railway station or train??
parag_sankla
Ummer bhai, thanks for interesting info on Beghum Para.

There is always more to a person than the on-screen image !

Cheers
Parag
noorie
QUOTE(Ummer @ Apr 29 2007, 12:54 AM) *

QUOTE(sbfan @ Apr 28 2007, 01:59 PM) *

can anyone tell something more about begum para


Begum Para was a B-Grade actress mostly paired with Sheikh Mukhtar in films like Ustad Pedro etc. After partition she along with Mehboob Khan and some other established film stars visited Karachi-Pakistan to see if the condition was right to work there. But seeing the non-existent film industry they all went back to India. Although Mehboob Khan's younger brother Pyare Khan and Begum Para's sister stayed back. Here is the detailed interview of Begum Para

MS OOMPH - by V Gangadhar

Somewhere in 1953, Fort Cochin in Kerala was hit by a bomb. I was then in school there and thoroughly enjoyed the experience.

The bomb was called Begum Para. And it came packaged in a Hindi film, Ustad Pedro, produced and directed by the then well-known actor, Sheikh Mukhtar. Mukhtar was tall, well-built and ruggedly handsome. But he had very stiff competition in Begum Para, unanimously acknowledged to be Bollywood's sex bomb.

The film magazines called her the oomph girl, the girl with 'it'. Whatever she had, Para set my blood flowing. She had sultry, come-hither looks, an eye-popping figure, one she was not afraid to show off. She wore trousers, tight dresses and danced enticingly to the tunes of western music.

Ustad Pedro was a fun film. It was packed with action, romance, stunts and, of course, that wonderful, curvaceous woman. As Sheikh Mukhtar carried off the prized heroine at the end of the film, all the boys watching the film sighed enviously.

Hindi screen had its quota of women with smouldering good looks, who dressed seductively and who were ready to respond positively to a pass from the admiring male. But such women were normally cast as vamps because most heroines had to look virginal and god-fearing and play second fiddle to the heroes.

Not Begum Para. Her sexuality on the screen was electric. Film magazines of those days wrote endlessly about the frank utterances and open lifestyles of Begim Para and her sister-in-law, Protima Dasgupta. She was not a hypocrite, she always called a spade a spade.

I learnt this when I dropped in at her small flat in suburban Versova. The cool breeze from the sea was welcome, but not the stench of drying fish. The drawing room was full of photographs. Of Para's late husband Nasir Khan, her two sons and daughter. There are books everywhere. Enid Blyton for the grand-daughter along with classics -- theIliad, the Odyssey, the works of D H Lawrence as well as pulp fiction by Ludlum and Collins.

The passage of time had taken its toll. Begum Para had bloated up, the hair has greyed and she moved around with difficulty. There was little sign of who she once was. But once she began to speak, the old magic reappeared like abracadbra.

She had endured a lot in recent years. Nasir Khan died in 1974. He was just 49 and she had to bring up three children on her own. For years there was a long misunderstanding with her brother-in-law Dilip Kumar (she refused to talk about it) and the family bungalow on upmarket Carter Road had to be sold. One son, Ayub, works in films (he was most recently seen in Mrityudand), another son and her daughter are in advertising. Life had not been easy for the family, but then Begum Para, by all accounts, had always been a fighter.

The early days, though, were peaceful and happy. The family came from Jalandhar but moved to Bikaner, where her father Mian-Ehsan-Ul-Haque became the chief justice. The family was large, 10 in all, but they had lots of fun and the indulgent parents often joined in.

Para went to school and then college at Aligarh. Hostel life was quite pleasant. While sticking to tradition, her family was quite broad-minded. "We never wore purdah or anything like that," she explains.

"We were allowed to watch films and I enjoyed the experience." One of her earliest heroes, was the debonair Motilal. "I wrote fan letters to him, and he always replied. Later, when I joined films, we became good friends."

Still in her early teens, Begum Para came to Bombay to spend her holidays with sister-in-law Protima Dasgupta who was already acting in films like Court Dancer. Her home was frequented by film people. Perky, pretty Para invited instant attention and producers promptly offered her roles. Dasgupta persuaded her to accept some of the offers.

"My family was not very happy," recalls Para. "But finally, Protima and I convinced them." Born plain Para, she added a Begum to her name.

Thus it was that a nervous, excited, young girl of 17 faced the camera for the first time in her life on the sets of Chand. Her co-star was Prem Adib, a famous hero in those days. The film was shot at Prabhat Studio in Pune and was a family social.

"Oh, I had no acting experience at all," she laughs. "But director B D Kashyap was very understanding and patient, and made me feel at ease."

Did you have any love scenes, I asked. "Oh, very innocent ones," she smiled. "The lead pair looked at each other, sang songs and perhaps held hands. Films in those days were so different. But everyone on the sets, including Prem Adib, were very co-operative."

Chand was fairly successful. Para did not look back and settled down to a film career in Bombay, sharing a flat with her sister-in-law at Worli Sea Face. From 1945, for over 10 years, she made several movies -- Sohini Mahiwal, Mehendi, Shama, Pedro, Dada, Dara, the last three with the swashbuckling Sheikh Mukhtar. The films did well at the box office.

"I played emotional roles and also essayed roles of fashionable women," she remembers. The "it" image was a big thing in those days. Para often wore pants and jeans, dressed provocatively and championed an unconventional lifestyle. Naturally, she was regularly featured in film magazines.

"I had a good figure, and I knew I had one," she laughed. "And if the magazines wanted to feature me in provocative poses, I did not mind".

While her career was going strong, she met Nasir Khan (Dilip Kumar's brother) on the sets of Lootera. Nasir had made a name for himself with some good films with Nutan. "We liked each other, but it was not love at first sight."

They began meeting more often and got married in 1958. Did their families support the marriage, I asked.

"Oh, we were old enough to do what we wanted." she replied diplomatically.

Nasir Khan did not want her to act and she quit the screen. "I was quite happy to stay at home and look after the family," she says. Nasir Khan had a heart condition which he chose to neglect, and a heart attack claimed him in 1974.

It was a shattering blow and she had to face the crisis alone. For about 18 months, she went to Karachi and lived with her sister, who had settled down in Pakistan. "But India was my home and I was back to bring up my children," she explained.

It was then she missed her work in films. As long as Nasir Khan was alive, life had been smooth. But now many adjustments had to be made. But she managed to bring up her children and settle them in life.

Looking back on her career in films, she says she had not taken it very seriously. "It was fun and interesting while it lasted."

She cherished her friendships formed during those days. Nargis and Geeta Bali were close friends. So were, Motilal, Nimmi, Nirupa Roy, Nadira, Shyama and Manorama.

A couple of days before our meeting. Nirupa, Nimmi and Shyama had dropped in for a chat. "We meet quite often," laughed Begum Para. "We talk, gossip, laugh... They are wonderful people". While I was chatting with her, the telephone rang. It was another friend, kathak queen Sitara Devi. They agreed to meet later that evening.

She thinks highly of Motilal, Dilip Kumar, Amitabh Bachchan and Naseeruddin Shah. Among today's heroines, she says Kajol is the best. "Oh, that girl lights up the screen with her presence," she exclaims.

It was time to leave. We had chatted for nearly two hours. But I was certain about one thing. In my book of interesting people she goes down as Genuine Stuff!


Thanks Ummer.
Has anyone read Khushwant Singh’s autobiography, Truth, Love and a Little Malice ?
There's a very interesting rolleyes.gif account of Begum Para while she was living in Karachi.

Noorie
sbfan
CINEMA

The return of Begum Para

V. GANGADHAR

The siren of the 1950s Hindi cinema talks of her comeback to the silver screen — as a grandmother this time.



The sparkle remains: Begum Para in her heyday.

IT'S probably the longest ever break from acting? The news is that Begum Para, the sex siren of the 1950s, is returning to Bollywood. Though the sparkle in her eyes remains, the svelte, sexy figure is gone; so have the quicksilver movements. These do not matter as Begum Para is playing a grandmother in Sanjay Leela Bansali's next film, "Sawariya" starring newcomers, Ranbir Rishi Kapoor and Sonam Anil Kapoor. She has not faced the camera after her last film, "Kar Bala" with Bhagwan Dada in the early 1960s.

While still at the peak of her career, Begum Para married Nasir Khan, Dilip Kumar's brother, in 1958 and quit acting. Nasir saab died in 1974 and Begum Para had a tough time bringing up her three children. Today, son Ayub Khan is in films while the former star lives with her daughter and grandchildren in Versova, Mumbai.

No regrets

She has no regrets at the disruption of her career. Begum Para never thought of a comeback because she had heard reports of star tantrums and lack of respect to senior actors on the sets. "I had heard horror stories on this topic," she observed. "But Sanjay Bansali, whom I had known from his childhood, assured me nothing like that would happen on his sets and I agreed."

Still the news of her return took fans by surprise. Suddenly TV channels were focusing on her career and her image as a sex symbol. Sometime back, I met her for a long chat and found her charming and articulate. "I had a good figure and did not mind wearing trousers, skirts and shirts which emphasised it," she explained. "I always had some kind of a bindaas image." Film magazines focused on her "oomph and smouldering "come hither" look. As a schoolboy in 1953, I watched "Ustad Pedro" and envied the swashbuckling hero, Sheikh Mukhtar, who carryied her away at the end!

Heroine at 17

A native of Jalandhar but brought up in Bikaner, Para (she added the `Begum' later) belonged to a liberal Muslim family. "No purdah for us," she recollected. "We were even allowed to watch films. I wrote fan letters to my favourite, Motilal, later a good friend." During a holiday in Bombay, Para's sister-in-law Protima Das Gupta — who was already in films — persuaded her to accept offers to act. Her family reluctantly agreed. At 17, she was the heroine of "Chand" where the romantic scenes with hero, Prem Adib, included looking into his eyes and holding hands briefly! "I had absolutely no acting experience," admitted Begum Para. "But it was fun, the director, co-stars were all very kind and co o perative."

Settling down in Bombay in 1945, Para acted in dozens of films including, "Sohini Mahiwal", "Mehendi", "Shama", "Pedro", "Dada" and "Dara" — the last three with action hero, Sheikh Mukthar. The glamour in the films of those days was reserved for the vamp and prevented Para from getting more A-grade films where the long-suffering heroine had to be a "Sati-Savitri".

Para always dressed according to the latest fashion and was a photographer's delight. She was a hit with male audiences and her arrival on the screen was always greeted with wolf whistles. "It was fun," she recollected. "You see, I did not take my career seriously and accepted whatever roles came my way."

On the sets of "Lootera" Begum Para met Nasir Khan. It was not love at first sight but they got married, which meant the end of her career. After Nasir's death, she spent sometime with her sister in Pakistan but India was home. Because of her independent nature, she did not get along with Dilip Kumar, though now the misunderstandings have been sorted out.

Wonderful friends

Bollywood brought her wonderful friends like Shyama, Nadira, Nargis, Motilal and dancer Sitara Devi. I spotted a wide variety of books in the flat — Enid Blyton, classics including The Iliad and The Odyssey, D.H. Lawrence, Robert Ludlum...

Begum Para now spends much of her time with her grandchildren, watching movies. The current excess of violence and sex in movies, the suggestive lyrics do not appeal to her. Most of the heroines look alike and wear too much make up, she says, but she admires Amitabh Bachchan, Naseeruddin Shah and Kajol. "How she glows on the screen," she exclaims. Though Begum Para is excited about "Sawariya", she has no long-term plans for her comeback. "I just want to have some fun," she smiled. That had always been her approach to acting.
sbfan
noorie plz share that incident
sbfan
Click to view attachment begum para with mukesh as per singermukesh.com but i cant trace her

here is about her new movie saanawariya

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saawariya
Ummer
QUOTE(sbfan @ Apr 28 2007, 02:32 PM) *

and it was some meeting on railway station or train??


yeah lol.
Ummer
QUOTE(sbfan @ Apr 28 2007, 02:51 PM) *

Click to view attachment begum para with mukesh as per singermukesh.com but i cant trace her

here is about her new movie saanawariya

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saawariya


She is in front with dopatta on her shoulder. Begum Para with Sunil Dutt :-

sbfan
o really she is extremely beautiful..
Ummer
QUOTE(noorie @ Apr 28 2007, 02:41 PM) *

QUOTE(Ummer @ Apr 29 2007, 12:54 AM) *

QUOTE(sbfan @ Apr 28 2007, 01:59 PM) *

can anyone tell something more about begum para


Begum Para was a B-Grade actress mostly paired with Sheikh Mukhtar in films like Ustad Pedro etc. After partition she along with Mehboob Khan and some other established film stars visited Karachi-Pakistan to see if the condition was right to work there. But seeing the non-existent film industry they all went back to India. Although Mehboob Khan's younger brother Pyare Khan and Begum Para's sister stayed back. Here is the detailed interview of Begum Para

MS OOMPH - by V Gangadhar

Somewhere in 1953, Fort Cochin in Kerala was hit by a bomb. I was then in school there and thoroughly enjoyed the experience.

The bomb was called Begum Para. And it came packaged in a Hindi film, Ustad Pedro, produced and directed by the then well-known actor, Sheikh Mukhtar. Mukhtar was tall, well-built and ruggedly handsome. But he had very stiff competition in Begum Para, unanimously acknowledged to be Bollywood's sex bomb.

The film magazines called her the oomph girl, the girl with 'it'. Whatever she had, Para set my blood flowing. She had sultry, come-hither looks, an eye-popping figure, one she was not afraid to show off. She wore trousers, tight dresses and danced enticingly to the tunes of western music.

Ustad Pedro was a fun film. It was packed with action, romance, stunts and, of course, that wonderful, curvaceous woman. As Sheikh Mukhtar carried off the prized heroine at the end of the film, all the boys watching the film sighed enviously.

Hindi screen had its quota of women with smouldering good looks, who dressed seductively and who were ready to respond positively to a pass from the admiring male. But such women were normally cast as vamps because most heroines had to look virginal and god-fearing and play second fiddle to the heroes.

Not Begum Para. Her sexuality on the screen was electric. Film magazines of those days wrote endlessly about the frank utterances and open lifestyles of Begim Para and her sister-in-law, Protima Dasgupta. She was not a hypocrite, she always called a spade a spade.

I learnt this when I dropped in at her small flat in suburban Versova. The cool breeze from the sea was welcome, but not the stench of drying fish. The drawing room was full of photographs. Of Para's late husband Nasir Khan, her two sons and daughter. There are books everywhere. Enid Blyton for the grand-daughter along with classics -- theIliad, the Odyssey, the works of D H Lawrence as well as pulp fiction by Ludlum and Collins.

The passage of time had taken its toll. Begum Para had bloated up, the hair has greyed and she moved around with difficulty. There was little sign of who she once was. But once she began to speak, the old magic reappeared like abracadbra.

She had endured a lot in recent years. Nasir Khan died in 1974. He was just 49 and she had to bring up three children on her own. For years there was a long misunderstanding with her brother-in-law Dilip Kumar (she refused to talk about it) and the family bungalow on upmarket Carter Road had to be sold. One son, Ayub, works in films (he was most recently seen in Mrityudand), another son and her daughter are in advertising. Life had not been easy for the family, but then Begum Para, by all accounts, had always been a fighter.

The early days, though, were peaceful and happy. The family came from Jalandhar but moved to Bikaner, where her father Mian-Ehsan-Ul-Haque became the chief justice. The family was large, 10 in all, but they had lots of fun and the indulgent parents often joined in.

Para went to school and then college at Aligarh. Hostel life was quite pleasant. While sticking to tradition, her family was quite broad-minded. "We never wore purdah or anything like that," she explains.

"We were allowed to watch films and I enjoyed the experience." One of her earliest heroes, was the debonair Motilal. "I wrote fan letters to him, and he always replied. Later, when I joined films, we became