QUOTE(nasir @ Jun 20 2006, 10:53 PM)

QUOTE(visuja @ Jun 19 2006, 07:21 AM)

Point noted Nasir-ji. Thanks.

(probably could have made the point in small case letters though

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shuddh hindi mein vaartAlaap karne ka pra-yatn atyapi kaThin hai

(Man !! that was tuff !!)
Shivani-ji.... chaliye hum aur aap thoda-sa yatn karte hain


'Urdu' is a Turkish word which means 'foreign' or 'horde'. This just shows that the language represents it's origin being an amalgamation of foreigners with the natives of South Asia. It was formulated by the interaction of foreign army, merchants and immigrants to India.
Besides, not to forget the contributions of the sufi saints such as Hazrat Ameer Khusrau, the favourite Mureed of Hazrat Nizamuddin Awliya (Mehboob-i-Ilahi).
To speak in filmy way: In Bawarchi (Rajesh Khanna), there is an excellent line:
Aap to Shudh Urdu mei.n vartalaap karte hai.n -
to which Rajesh Khanna replies: Aap bhi to Khaalis Hindi farmaate.n hai.n.
The most important aspect of Urdu is: BORN AND NURTURED IN INDIA.
Yes, it has Arabic, Persian elements as well. Marathi too has many persian words for that matter: e.g. KHURCHI for Kursi. The courts in India still use Urdu (persian origin): VAKALAT NAMA, ROZNAMA, and many such words. The Fatwa-i-Aalamgiri often finds mention in the the law-books. The MUHAMMADAN LAW, as learnt by the First Year Law Students, has all the Legal Terminologies of Persian/Arabic origin and the same are used in India.
etc, etc.
NASIR.
I was Urdu student, and I had been taught by my Urdu teachers that Urdu is certainly a Turkish word, but its meaning is "army" or Lashkar in common Urdu. Since Urdu is developed in India amongst Indian army, so it is named as Urdu or Lashkari Boli, which also means a language which is a mixture of various languages, such as English, Sanskrit, Arabic, Persian, Portuguese etc etc.
I would also like to mention here that it is not censor board who forced producers to impose Hindi as their Films' language in Film censor certificate. Producers themselves wished to do that. If I am not mistaken, Kamaal Amrohi applied Hindi as the Film's language for his URDU FILM PAKEEZAH.
The only producer who always took Urdu censor certificate for his films is NASIR HUSAIN. See his films' censor certificates like Pyaar ka Mausam, Caravan, Hum kisi se kam nahin, Yaadon ki baarat etc. All are having Urdu Certificates.