Hello Friends,

A new forum dedicated to the legendary Shiv Dayal Batish is created here on HF at Ashwin Batish's request. Ashwin happens to be the son of Mr. Batish and is renowned and extraordinary sitarist and tabla player. We are fortunate to have him amidst us.

More information on their website: http://www.sdbatish.com/

Regards,

Dear Friends,

It is a great pleasure to see this level of discussion and participation on our rich musical heritage. I congratulate you all and give my special thanks to Pradeepji for setting this forum dedicated to my father Pt. Shiv Dayal Batish.

Our family is presently residing in Santa Cruz, California. My father has been hard at work writing and has just two more days left to complete of his latest book of Chalans and compositions on the Ragas of North India. I hope to release these in the near future. I will be happy to keep you posted on this.

In the film industry, he is well know as simply S.D. Batish but in his works his Pseudonym is "Rasik" which was conferred upon him by his Guruji Shri Chandan Ram Charan of Patiala.

My father is 90 years young with the spirit and mind of a 40 year old. He is always looking ahead to the next level of achievement and the next plateau to conquer. Under his guidance, we are planning on starting classes to teach his compositions and start a new subset of musicians that will hopefully teach these songs to future generations. The great part of all this is that is the last 25 years my father has been hard at work recording these compositions. It is my commitment to produce these and release them in the future.

I will try and have my father give his input on this forum. I will also try uploading some of his songs.

More than anything else, I am hoping that all of you can help complete our collection of his old songs. I know he will appreciate this the most. Here is a sher from one of his ghazals


S.D. Batish

I present to you all this small "tofaa" of my fathers upcoming CD of Ghazals. It is a special gift to you all to listen and enjoy. The full CD is set to be released around December. I will be happy to let you all know of this.

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All the best,
Ashwin Batish

PS. Please add any trivia and discuss things freely. I am just as much in need of information on my father's career. I feel that I really missed out on it all after moving to England in '64. I was only 12 year old. I wish I could have started learning and talking about all this then.

Thanks u join our HF site, 2nd can we get SDB ji songs old movies?
OLD IS GOLD
Thanks
Surinder dhall

Ashwin Batish Sahaab

Suswagtam


Who Aaye Hamare Forum Mein, Khudaa Ki Kudrat Hai
Kabhi Hum Unko, Kabhi Apne Forum Ko Dekhte Hain.

It is unbelievable, to have such great personality in front of us (it seems fortune star is smiling ).

As far as myself concerns, I came to know about Shri S.D.Batishji thru film sings only, specifically the Qwwaalii (only one of its own kind , unique)

'Na To Karwaan Ki Talash Hai, Na To Humsafar Ki Talash Hai'

Rafi Sahab, Mannada,Ashaji,Sudha Malhotra & S.D.Batish Sahab.

After hearing the qwwaalii, I wondered about Batish Sahab, tried to lsearch other songs but I was not fortunate enough. Now due to good luck of all HF Members, you are here.

Please convey my 'Charan Sparsh' to shri S.D.Batish Sahab.

Ashwinji

There is one song of Shri S.D.Batish from old movie Toofan, Jala kar Aag Dil Mein Zindagi Barbad Karte Hain, Na Hanste Hain Na Rote Hain Na Kuchh Faryad Karte Hain.

I think last I heard this song, may be over 20 years back on Radio Ceylon and used to remember it by heart with all its three stanzas. Even today I can recall fully its first and third stanza "Ummeeden Hasrat - o -Arman Sab Dafna Liye Dil Mein; Dil - e - Barbad Mein Ab Ranj - o - Gham Aabad Karte hain" and "Nahi Apni Koi Manzil, Kahan Jaayen Kidhar Jaayen; Sahara Maut Ka Hai Maut Ko Ab Yaad Karte Hain".

I will be grateful if you could upload this song at your earliest convenience as I have been searching for it since I first heard it.

Thank You

Pradeep

Welcome Sir,

We are very happy and fortunate to have you here with us.
First tell our Pranaam to Panditji ....

....we are from comparitvely much younger aga group and we hope that Panditji would share with us his experience in the music industry during 40s and 50s.

I had not heard much of Panditji's except those super hit songs... Khamosh Nigahen.... and then the famous qwali of barsaat ki raat and ...Manmohan Man main ho tumhi ....only untill Dharamvir paaji uploaded those rare beautiful punjabi songs from the 1941release punjabi movieGowandi..

Would like to upload that great gazal sung by panditji in his young voice:

gham dil nal lagaa rakhiye
a cheez bagaani ai
yaran da suneda hai
sajna di nishani ai

courtsy Dharamvir pa

Thanks u join our HF site, 2nd can we get SDB ji songs old movies?
OLD IS GOLD
Thanks
Surinder dhall

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I will upload all I can. Some songs I only have as "Jhalaks" as the person that has the collection did not want to share them without substantial downpayment from me. If any of you hve the full versions I will be forever indebted.

Ashwin

USRAFIAN Saahab,

I appreciate your welcome and thank you for the kind words. I have forwarded your "Charan Sparsh" to my father and he sends you his blessings.

There are many stories my father has to tell about his time recording the "Naa To Kaaravaan Ki Talaash Hai Qawalli." I will try and get him to talk about this. I do remember that whereever he would go there was always a request from the audience for him to sing it. He tells me that he was in charge of rehearsing everyone and hence knew all the parts and would sing them all in the concert while calling out each singer's name

At my request, he has also written a short article about his old friend Mohd. Rafi. You can check it out at
http://www.raganet.com/RagaNet/Issues/4/rafi.html
RagaNet is our e-magazine.

I look forward to our Forum chats and hope to put up some more songs of my fathers for your listening pleasure. I hope you had a chance to listen to the song I uploaded earlier.

I like your little sher. Was that borrowed from Ghalib or Zauq? Slips my mind presently. But ... thank you!

Ashwin

One of my favorites too. Here's some information from a discussion on RMIM that I saved.

"Here are the words to the former song. I got to listen to this finely sung
ghazal thanks to a (currently) hibernating RMIMer Kalyan Kolachala. The pstats
are courtesy Ashok."

Title: jalaakar aag dil me.n
film: Toofaan
year: 1954
singer: S.D.Batish
music: S.D.Batish
lyrics: Wahid Quraishi

jalaakar aag dil me.n, zindagii barabaad karate hai.n
na ha.Nsate hai.n, na rote hai.n, na kuchh fariyaad karate hai.n ...

ummiide.n, hasarat-o-aramaan, sab apanaa li_e dil me.n
dili_e barabaad me.N ab, ra.nj-o-Gam aabaad karate hai.n
na ha.Nsate hai.n ...

rahe.n majabuuriyaa.N apanii, rahe.n barabaadiyaa.N apanii
ham apane aashiyaa ko, aap hii barabaad karate hai.n
na ha.Nsate hai.n ...

nahii.n apanii ko_ii ma.nzil, kahaa.N jaa_e.n, kidhar jaa_e.n
sahaaraa maut kaa hai, maut ko apanaa karate hai.n
na ha.Nsate hai.n ...

I will do the upload soon although it is poor quality. Perhaps if someone has a better one they can upload also.

All the best,
Ashwin Batish

First of all, I want to give you and Dharamvirji my heartfelt thanks for this gift! My father and I have had a quest to try and find his old recordings. I was informed of this forum and we are very fortunate to have you all here. It is a fulfilling of my dream (personally) to hear these long forgotten and rare gems. After putting numerous posts on RMIM the result was luke warm although not completely fruitless. But still a large part of his songs from Lahore era are missing. If you have more of these please upload. I never heard the actual Gowandi songs although I have accompanied my father on tabla when he would sing them on video or in a concert.

It is my plan to have my father spend a few minutes everyday writing something special that I can post for you all. If you have anything is particular to ask him then let me know. I find that even though he likes to speak of his experiences of yesteryears it drains him if it goes on for too long

I am so excited about meeting you all here that I wish there was a way to get everyone together in one place sometime in the future to have you meet him personally. But, after seeing how far and wide the members are dispersed this can be a daunting task! But, then again, it could happen

I am also trying to get him to talk on video re. his life and times in the Indian music industry. It is so much fun to speak with him. Just a simple question can trigger some of the most interesting memories and invaribly the information is intriguing and filled with insight.

Kind regards,
Ashwin Batish

A Very warm welcome to Ashwin Ji And my humble Pranaams to Pandit Ji

Here's the song that everybody has been talking about.

Song: Na Toh Kaarwaan Ki Talaash Hai
Film: Barsaat Ki Raat (1960)
Music: Roshan (Nagrath)
Lyrics: Sahir Ludhianvi
Singers: Mohd. Rafi,Manna Dey,Shiv Dayal Batish,Asha Bhonsle,Sudha Malhotra & Chorus

Enjoy the song!!!!!!

I welcome you at this forum, and cnt" help uploading

Jalakar Aag Dil Mein Zindagi Barbad Karte Hain....Batish sahib...Toofan 54(qwality is not so good)

This is my hertiest welcome

and another from Toofan-54

Duniya Se Shikayat Kaun Kare Arman Bhara dil toot Gaya

Both the above songs are in compromising qwality
If any music lover or Batish ji have better qwality please upload.
I always love hear both songs

Dharmvirji



Kitne ratan bhare hain apke khazaane mein
Bus isee tarah kripa banaye rakhen

[quote=Ashwin Batish,Aug 4 2005, 11:04 AM]
USRAFIAN Saahab,

I appreciate your welcome and thank you for the kind words. I have forwarded your "Charan Sparsh" to my father and he sends you his blessings.[/quote]

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Sir,

I am fulfilled - mein dhanya hua.


wow!! what a beautiful pic. & article by Shri Batish Sahab, thanks for guiding to the site
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Ashwin:

Thanks for introducing your Dad to us. I was stuck up with so much of Mohammed Rafi, I did not even have the time to rediscover a hidden flower like your Dad. I must admit he had a great voice and style of singing including a good range. Although he sang such a long time ago, surprisingly both the type of voice he projected and his style of singing appear to be so much ahead of time and they sound very modern and contemporary.

I must congratulate you in having such a great Dad. May God grant him even more longevity so that we can forward to receiving his blessings and guidance for many more years to come.

Thanks again.

Binod.

Many thanks GKji,
This whole thing is such a rewarding and heartwarming experience! I am daily briefing my father and the rest of the family on the posts and the old songs that are being uploaded. I cannot describe the glow on everyone's faces here. They are simply exhilarated and we all feel so connected to a missing part of our lives. So thank you one and all

My father sends his blessings and has just finished hearing the Qawalli you uploaded. It sound amazingly vibrant for a low res bit rate. Please add any more if you have them. I would appreciate a higher bit rate copy for our archives so if anyone has that you can either post it here or email it directly to me at info@batish.com

Warm regards,
Ashwin Batish

dear ashwin ji,
I have uploaded two songs from Toofan and I request if you have these in better qwality please upload.

Ashwin Ji.....Its my pleasure to have shared that wonderful song.... Humaari Soubhaagya hai....Thanks so much to Pandit Ji....for having blessed me.... Main Dhanya Ho gaya....

Yes, if possible, I will most happily upload the song in a better bitrate. Let me check out. And yes.....do share with us the wonderful experiences of yor father, in connection with this song....

Ashwin

I am very fond of your Sitar Power series albums. By combining sitar with the new age funky fusion, you have managed to create a new genre that I must have introduced to many of my friends.

This ghazal that you uploaded is sung very well and the sitar playing of your father (or, is it you?) was charming. Who sang it?

It is extremely heartening to see you here among us music lovers. Welcome!

Dear Dharmvirji

My greatest thanks to you and our forum members for helping preserve these songs. It is such selfless effort that puts an exclamation mark on our rich heritage. I hope we can together fill the void in my father's collection. I will try, in the next few weeks, to locate and upload some from my existing collection that was presented by some of the fans on RMIM.

I will be extremely greatful if you could help as best you can on any of my father's older panjabi songs (from 1936 - 1950). Especially the ones he recorded during his time in Lahore pre 1947. We literally have none of these. If you visit his web site at http://sdbatish.com/ go to filmography link and you'll see that I have started putting together a collection of his various movies. I also realise this will not happen in a few days or months. I will be patient and as we all bring forth this information to the forum I look forard to having this great ride

Being as you are in the heart of Panjab, India, how hard is it to get prints of old Indian movies? Is there a source one can rely on?

Also, my father mentions that he would personally give his copies of records to Radio Ceylon. Do you or anyone else reading this know what hapened to the station and specifically the large record and tape collection it housed? Can one still get copies out of this entity?

My best wishes,
Ashwin Batish

Anurag,

Thank you for your comments on my Sitar Power series albums. I have a thrid one in the works. My family humorously calls my releases the " Das Varshi Yojanaa" I get so busy doing other things that the past two releases were 10 years apart and the new one is similarly coming out after almost 10 years of the 2nd album. I am fusing Funk, jazz, calypso etc in this one and having a ball doing it.

On your question of my upload. ..... I am sorry i did not make this clear but here are the credits

Vocals by : S.D. Batish
Sitar, Tabla,sequencing, arrangement and mixdown - Ashwin Batish
Music composed by S.D Batish
Words by S.D. Batish
Based on a Carnatic Raga Paavankari of the Paavani Mela #41

I am working on releasing a new CD of Ghazals like the one above in December.

Glad you liked it My father's new stuff really is awesome.

Best wishes,
Ashwin Batish

Dear Friends,

U/loading a song
By – Rafi Sahab+S.D.Batish Sahab+Manmohanji
MD-Madan Mohan Sahab
Film-Railway Platform

Dekh Tere Bhagwaan Kii Haalat Kyaa Ho Gaii Insaan
Kitnaa Badal Gaya Bhagwaan

Sun Kar Iss Paapi Ko Taano
Badal Na Lijo Apano Thokano
Mhaaro Tahaarho Prem Purano
Hum Hain Thailey Tum Ho Khazaano

Bharte Rahiyo Das Kii Jhollo
Dete Rahiyo Daan,
Tumhaari Jay Jay Ho Bhagwaan

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Ashwin sahab,
It is a privilege to have you on this forum. I am uploading a higher bitrate version of the Na To Karawan qawwali, though I am not sure how much better it is than the one u/led earlier. The length is 11:53, extracted file size about 11MB.
Incidentally, some of us are in fact close to your age bracket!
Regards,
50Some1

This song is remarkably similar in concept to the song sung by Kavi Pradeep (MD C. Ramchandra) in the film Nastik from around the same time (mid-1950's):

Dekh Tere Sansaar Ki Haalat Kya Ho Gai Bhagwan, Kitna Badal Gaya Insaan.

Interesting indeed!
Cheers.

Awesome quality usrafian sahab.

The copy I had was courtesy indianscreen.com. This one is so much better. Great sampling too. Seems as though it was taken from the movie clip? Very funny part by my father. His is the raspy voice singing "Sun Kar Iss Paapi ...". I never saw the movie. Do you know if it is available?

Best wishes,
Ashwin Batish

Dear 50some1ji,

My most sincere thanks for your upload. This was indeed a very well sampled version. The 128k mp3 format is almost necessay to keep decent quality. wmas I find do a better job at 128k.I did a test in my studio and the wma compression at 128k retained the higher end much better. mp3s have a bass enhance effect. They are great if you have a shrilly sounding piece the mp3 will make it sound warmer. Most of the pieces I've received in the past have been in much lower resolutions but it was still great to hear the pieces!

Anyway, thanks again for your contribution I look forward to many more such inputs.

Best wishes,
Ashwin Batish

Ashwin,

Let me add on my "welcome to you" (onto HF). We are indeed very lucky to have you in our midst. Panditji's duets with Rafi from Railway Platform (Dekh Tere Bhagwaan Ki Haalat), Baalam (Duniya Waalon Mujhe Bataao), Humaari Manzil (Woh Aur Zamaana Tha...with Rafi and Geeta Dutt) and many many more really were the essence of the golden era of Hindi film music.

Personally, I think Panditji and Chitalkar Ramachandra were some of the pioneers of the form of singing that since became popular through the late 50s and early 60s.

Please convey my deepest regards to the great soul.

Thank you
Hithesh

Hi Ashwin-ji,

I just discovered this thread and extremely happy to welcome you on Hamara Forums. Please convey my regards to Pandit-ji and we are very lucky to have him here.

As a dedication to this site, I have posted one rare duet of Rafi Saheb & S.D. Batish-ji from the film BALAM (1949) under Rafi Classics thread.
Details are:

-Duniya walo mujhe batao kya hai sacha pyaar....

Music: Husunlal Bhagatram


This can be downloaded from here:-

Balam-1949-Duniya walo mujhe batao...


Best regards,

Mohd.

"RAILWAY PLATFORM" is available from retailers as a Samrat Collections DVD (I have a copy). The overseas rights holders are:

SAMRAT INTERNATIONAL
1402 BARBIS WAY
CONCORD, CA 94518, U.S.A.
Phone: (925) 687-5858
Fax: (925) 687-5656

I tried this andit didn't work. But I did find the DVD on an Indian DVD seller site. Thanks.
Ashwin

I love it!

The quality is also exceptional.
Many thanks for this gem Mohd. Sahab.

Here are some details on the Movie BALAM
Movie Length : - Year : 1949
Certificate No : Type : U
Movie Type : Black & White Era : Talkies
Production : Wadia Movietone
Genre : Social
Actor : Agha, Bismillah, H. Prakash, Jankidas, Jayant, M. K. Hasan, Masud, Wasti
Actress : Anwari Bai, Gulnar, Nigar Sultana, Suraiya , Suraiya Choudhary
Child Artist : Master Ratan
Director : Homi Wadia
Producer : Homi Wadia
Female Singer : Lata Mangeshkar , Suraiya
Lyricist : Qamar Jalalabadi
Male Singer : Md. Rafi, S.D. Batish
Music Director : Husnalal Bhagatram

Songs :
Aata Hai Zindagi Mein Bhala Pyaar Kis Tarah
Aise Mein Agar Tum Aa Jaate
Dekh Li O Duniya Waale Teri Duniya Dekh Li
Duniya Waalo Mujhe Bataao Kya Hai Sachcha Pyaar
Duniya Waalo Mujhe Bataao Kya Hai Sachcha Pyaar
Jo Bhoole Hain Tujhe Ai Dil
O Pardesi Musaafir Kise Karta Hai Ishaare
Pyaar Mein Do Dil Mile Aur Door Ho Kar Rah Gaye
Thukara Ke Hamein Chal Diye Begaana Samajhkar
Tum Hamein Bhool Gaye Hum Na Tumhein Bhool Sake

Incidently, my mother mentions, that after my father got paid, she went and bought a Singer sewing machine which is still at one of our friend's house in Bombay! Came in handy during bad times when she had to sew to keep the family afloat.

I don't know if he sang in any other song here. If anyone knows the singers please add the info in the reply. Any corrections are always welcome

All the best,
Ashwin Batish

Hiteshji, Thank you for the welcome. With supporters and well wishers such as yourself and the rest of the group here, I and my family feel blessed. My father is constantly sending his blessing and good wishes to you all.

My ultimate goal in all this is to make my father's archives as complete as possible.

The only song I have listed on my father's web site www.sdbatish.com that is from Hamari Manzil is

BABUJI JALDI JAGIYE (3:08)
SHAMSHAD BEGUM,S. D. Batish

If any of you know the rest of the songs in this movie please list them here and I will add them to the site information. As always corrections are always welcome.

All the best,
Ashwin Batish

other songs from hamari manzil

1.Naino Se Naina Milake Jiya Tadpa Gaye.....Geeta Rai
2.Tere Aane Par Dil Dhadke,Tere Jane Pe Dil Roye....Geeta Rai
3.Andhere Se Na dar...Kante Banegi Kaliyan.....Geeta, Rafi ,Saathi
4.Baithi Hoon Nain Bichye,Dil Mein Dil Ka Dard Basaye...Geeta Rai
5.Badla Hua Duniya Mein...Wo Aur Zamana Tha.....Geeta Rai and other
6.Babuji Jaldi Jagiye Hamen Office Jana Hai.......shamshad,batish
7.Saajn Se Bichud Kar Dil Ne kaha...Geeta Rai
8.Toote huye dil ko ulfat ka bas itna fasana.....Rafi

That address belongs to a house.
Homes For Sale Perhaps that was the problem.

Thank you all for all your blessings and posts. I am off on a short vacation. Please continue to add and discuss on the forum and don't stop uploading. I will catch with everything latter.

Best wishes,
Ashwin Batish

Well, I'm back. I see that there was no activity since I left. I do have some very good news to report ......

2 days ago, my wife gave birth to a baby girl! We have named her "Uma Nandika Batish."

Warm regards to you all,
Ashwin Batish

Ashwin

Congratulations on this new addition to your family.

I hope the mother and little Uma are doing well.


Anil

Congrats Mr. Batish, and a hearty welcome to HF.

We HF'ers are proud to have such a legendary family here.

[quote=Ashwin Batish,Sep 2 2005, 06:29 AM]
Well, I'm back. I see that there was no activity since I left. I do have some very good news to report ......

2 days ago, my wife gave birth to a baby girl! We have named her "Uma Nandika Batish."

Warm regards to you all,
Ashwin Batish

[quote=Ashwin Batish,Aug 13 2005, 10:36 AM]Thank you all for all your blessings and posts. I am off on a short vacation. Please continue to add and discuss on the forum and don't stop uploading. I will catch with everything latter.

Best wishes,
Ashwin Batish
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Ashwin Sahab

Badhaayii Ho .

God blesses Uma Nandika, may good fortune follows Uma Nandika.

BTW, does Uma has bro/sis ? Pl let's have some more detail about your family.


Regards

Ashwin-ji,

Congratulations to you and your family for the new born baby.

Mohd.

Many Congratulations to you and your wife, on this real special addition to your family......and Special wishes to Panditji.....

Thank you one and all! My family is thrilled with this special addition and also very sleepless presently

I have posted a special letter by my father to the forum. Hope you get a chance to read it. I am also about to post a photo of his for all of you! Check under new topics. If any of you have an old photo of my father please upload into the thread.

Ashwin

Here is the famous Preet na ho badnaam from the movie Arzoo.



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Enjoy

Thank you Maheshji!

I will be playing this to my father tonight and will post the feedback.

Bahut Dhanyavaad Aapkaa.

Ashwin Batish

Speaking of Batish songs from film Aarzoo, I think there's another one sung by my father that I don't have "Lo Yeh Aafat Bhi Tali" Please upload if you have this. I do have many of the songs fom this film. If anyone needs these please let me know.

Here are the titles of the ones I have

Hamein Maar Chala Yeh Khayaal (Anil Biswas)
Aayee Bahaar......Jiya Dole Mora (Lata)
Aankhon Se Door Ja Ke Jaana Na Dil Se Door (Lata)
Kahaan Tak Hum Uthaaye Gam (Lata)
Mera Naram Karejwa Dole Re (Lata)
Unhe Hum Jo Dil Se (Lata)
Mila Gaye Nain Mila Gaye Nain (Sudha Malhotra)
Ai Dil Mujhe Aisi Jagah Le Chal (Talat)

They are 32k mp3s I downloaded from Screenindia but they sound quite decent.

Best wishes,
Ashwin Batish

Song: Na Toh Kaarwaan Ki Talaash Hai
Film: Barsaat Ki Raat (1960)
Music: Roshan (Nagrath)
Lyrics: Sahir Ludhianvi
Singers: Mohd. Rafi,Manna Dey,Shiv Dayal Batish,Asha Bhonsle,Sudha Malhotra & Chorus[/color]

Can someone please reupload this song....please help me

thanks