(ladies welcome too)
I dont remember all the 9 ras that I learnt about a long time ago
shrungar, shaant, viir, bhakti, bibhatsa, raudra, karuN
(some may be made up by me just now )
But I think I am going to start one thread for each ras that I can remember
and list songs, poems
please add as you like.

For shrungar ras lets start with kavivary baa. bha. borkar's
japanii ramalaachii raatra as read by P. L. Deshpande
(This one is from anandayatraa kavitechii)

(one point about the poem, the poet didn't actually spend any time with a geisha, this is all imagination of a poetic mind)

I will also post lyrics later

P.L. Deshpande sounds so weird compared to Pu.La.Deshpande !

But before he became recognized by his household name "pu. la."
He seems to have been known as PL to his buddies. (and pii. yal. to the kanaDii buddies )
(as written by him in the sketches of his acquaintances)
(someone I knew used to call him P.L. uncle)

just found out that our admin-in-chief is konkanii
so posting bakii-baab's poem must win some points for me in getting to that trusted group
(next up will be a konkani poem by baaki-baab, recited by PL, tyaa disaa vaDaakaDe gaDat tinisaanaa, ma.nd man.d vaajat aalii tujii go pai.njaNaa)

ok here are the lyrics thanks to one Kedar MhasavaDe

जपानी रमलाची रात्र

तुझे विजेचे चांदपाखरू दीप-राग गात
रचीत होते शयनमहाली निळी चांदरात

रतीरत कुक्कुट साकुंडीवर आरोहूनी माड
चोच खुपसुनी फुलवीत होता पंखांचे झाड

अद्भुत पंख्यासम भिंतीवर आंदोलुनी छाया
लावित होत्या ताप जगाचा नकळत विसराया

धूप ऊसासत होता कोनि रजताच्या पात्री
विचित्र रेशिमचित्रे होती रसावली गात्री

तुझा पियानो यक्ष जळातील होता निजलेला
मनात गुंफित स्पर्श-सुखांच्या स्वप्नांचा झेला

अन् म्युसेची कवने होती माझ्या हातात
प्रतिचरणाला करित होती धूम्रवेल साथ

जळत ऊसासत होते त्यासह अंतरात काही
होता चिमणा श्वान लोकरी घोटाळत पायी

तोच वाजल्या तुझ्या सपाता सळसळला घोळ
आलीस मिरवीत जाळीमधुनी नागिणीचा डौल

करांतुनी तव खिदळत आले स्तनाकार पेले
जळता गंधक पांच उकळता याही रंगलेले

अभिष्ट चिंतुनी आम्ही त्यांचे भिडवियले काठ
सुरेहुनी तु गडे भाजिले ओठांनी ओठ

स्पर्शे तुझिया आणि पियानो थरारला सारा
मज सम त्याच्या कानशिलाच्या झणाणल्या तारा

गंधर्वांच्या दुहिता जमल्या करित पुष्पवृष्टी
हृदय मदाचे मोहळ झाले जडावली दृष्टी

पोहू लागले तुझ्या रेशमी अलकातील मासे
हवा जाहली जड पा-यासम अंगातील वासे

आणि तरंगत डुलु लागली नौकेसम शेज
तो कांतितुन तुझ्या निथळले फेनाचे तेज

नखे लाखिया दात मोतिया वैडूर्यी नेत्र
अवयव गमले चपल चिवट की मयवनीचे वेत्र

कात सोडिल्या नागिणिचे ते नवयौवन होते
विळख्याविळख्यातुनि आलापित ज्वालांची गीते

गरळ तनुतील गोठुन झाले अंतरात गोड
कळले का मज जडते देवा नरकाची ओढ

डोळे बांधुन खेळत होते जीवन मायावी
अंधपणातच वितळत होते भूत आणि भावी

तुझ्या जपानी भाषालिपिसम अगम्य सुन्दरता
असुनि हाती उरली दुर्लभ आली ना हाता

आजही तुज शोधता कधी ती रमलाची रात्र
पाठितुनि जंबिया मधाचा घाली काळजात !

koi iska matlab samjhayega??

This was going to be treat ... but the file don't open. Anyone have this problem too?

Since I cant download the file, I can not test it. But lately I am not actually zipping the files, just changing the extension from mp3 to zip. may be that is the problem. try to change extension and see if that works.

Anybody else having same problem?

I could to listen to the file, just by changing the extenstion to mp3. But NM, you should be able to download from this site, since you have more than 50 posts to your name. (Unless the rules got changed in the meantime ).

By the way, it was an amazing poem !!!!! But I must admit I struggled with a few words here.. Would really appreciate if someone could help with their meaning (MANDRAKE, AKEL...Where art thou ?? )

NM, do you have any more of such stuff ? Just bring 'em on !!!

Dhananjay, quite a few clarifications

1) nm cannot download even though he's past the 50 post mark. That rule was only for 1 week. Now he needs to PM Pradeep.

2) Since the arrival of Akel on HF, I have retired from the translation business (though I admit that this poem is a cakewalk)

3) I am sure nm also will be more than equal to the task of translating what he has u/l ed

Listening to PuLa (and/or Sunitabai) recite poetry is a treat indeed! Do you have the other poems in this album? Would it be asking too much if I requested you to upload them all?

Warm regards,
Abhay

cakewalk? wow. thou art good at marathi.
pray tell what is kukkut, sankudi, duhita, waiduryi, wetra and rajat?
and you can't retire from translating business. you are not permitted.

I will leave the complete meaning to someone else more competent
kukkut - rooster
sakundi - mantle (?)
duhita - daughter (actually duhitru - sanskrit word is pretty close to latin word for daughter)
waiduryi - like the presious stone waiDurya (I wouldnt know which one it is in english)
wetra - wet - (flexible bambuu)
rajat - silver

If borakar was the poet of love of yester years, suresh bhaT has to be the poet of love of current marathi literature

So next up will be ...

(anybody wants to add his/her favorite?)

Wow !! That helps.
Er...Can I ask for the meaning of some more words ?
Maad, Rasaavali, Jhela, Sapaata, Alak, Lakhiya (as in "nakhe lakhiya")

-Dhananjay

first the easy ones
sapaataa - flip-flops, slippers, sandals
alak - hair
laakhiyaa - I dont remember the english word right now, but laakh is the red paste that was used to seal the envelopes. It is made from tree sap. here it us used to suggest the red nail paint
mad - it is the juice that flows from the ga.nDsthaL of a male elephent when he is in heat. (notice the words maadak, or madamast both are made from mad)
so
हृदय मदाचे मोहळ झाले जडावली दृष्टी would mean
my heart was filled with mad (lust?? ugli word really) and eyes couldn't stay open

and the ones where I am not quite sure
jhelaa - some sort of cloth like uparaNe (a variant of shela may be)

rasaawalii - again I am not quite sure
if we break the line as
gaatrii vichitra reshim chitre rasaavalii hotii
avayavaanmadhe vegaLiich reshmachii chitre rasarasalelii hotii
or if those two are two separate things then
vegaLiich reshamii chitre (bhintiwar) hotii aaNii (tujhe) avayav rasarasalele hote.

of course I can be completely wrong with rasaavalili having a different meaning

since no one added a suresh bhaT favourite
I am going to add one of mine.
(I had to decide between taruN aahe raatra, maalavuun Taak diip, chaa.ndaNyaat firataanaa)
taruN aahe aaN cha.ndaNyaat firataanaa are by asha, but the first one is awesome byut a bit sad and the second one sounds like the immature love of a college student. So going with maalavuun Taak diip (actual zip, not extension change)

lyrics to follow

That was a mistake, malamalii taaruNya maajhe is the best shrungaric poem by suresh bhaT bar none. (mokaLyaa kesaat maajhyaa tuu jiivaalaa gu.ntavaave - vaa, kyaa baat hai) (and it is sung by asha too, lataa's marathi shringrarik songs seem to be sung with a quiet aliptataa, whereas aashaa just brings forth the wanting (please someone suggest the right word here)) I do not seem to have it on CD. So can some/one u/l it please?

taapalyaa maajhyaa tanuuchiii taar jh.nkaaruun yaavii
reshamii sa.ngiit sparshaache punhaa tuu peTavaave ....

lol... allow me pls
jhela = swing (jhoka, jhula in marathi)
(remember vegavegali fuley umalalee... by H. Mangeshkar? He sings "kadamb tarula baandhuni jhele, oonch ghaalati jhokey'? Translated that looks like: tying swings to the kadamb tree, taking high swings...)

rasaawali = became full of 'ras' (whichever ras (juice) pu la meant)

NM / Mandrake,
Thanks a lot for your efforts in making us understand the song better ...... Adds so much value to the pleasure of listening !!!

Mandrake, good to see you back. I was dumbstruck when you mentioned that you are "out of the business of translation" !!! It has been your forte, all this while... and we've really enjoyed your posts so far. Now with NM and Akel joining the gang, we are looking forward to good times ahead

Well here's the song NM asked for.. Malmali tarunya maajhe from the movie Gharkul.

-Dhananjay

Talking of Suresh Bhat, here's another of his songs which fits the bill for this thread....

Pahaate Pahaate mala jaag aali
Tujhi reshamaachi mithi sail jhaali

This song has two versions, one sung by C. Ramchandra and the other by Suresh Wadkar. Here's the Suresh Wadkar version (beware....the quality isn't great !!!)

-Dhananjay

Dhananjay, for a moment I was taken aback by your very kind words. (Thanks so much for that). Didn't ever think that my part-time 'translation business' could bring joy to anyone. But now that I understand, I think I'll follow the tradition of Imran Khan and other cricketers and 'come out of retirement'

However, let me tell you that Aniruddha (akel) with his obvious grounding in sanskrit (or so I believe) seems to be far ahead of me in this department. So as long as others are doing such a precise job, I think I'll just hang around in the background and make contributions when I think they are required.
Am I talking right? I do hope so...

dhananjay,
thanks for malamalii taruNya maajhe

Here are the lyrics
(itrans)

malamalii taaruNya maajhe tuu pahaaTe paa.ngharaave
mokaLyaa kesaa.nt maajhyaa tuu jiivaalaa gu.ntavaave

laagunii tha.nDii gulaabii shirashirii yaavii ashii kii
raajasaa, maajhyaat tuu an.h mii tujhyaamaajii bhinaave

(gard raaiituun yaavaa bhaaralelaa gaar vaaraa
tuu mukyaa oThaat maajhyaa da.nshataaje un pyaave)

(chaa.ndaNyaachaa shwaas jaaiichyaa phulaa.nmaajii viraavaa
aapulyaa DoLyaat saar_yaa taarakaa.nnii viraghaLaave)

taapalyaa maajhyaa tanuuchii taar jha.nkaaruun jaavii
reshamii sa.ngiit sparshaache punhaa tuu peTavaave

re tulaa baahuu.nt maajhyaa ruupaga.ndhaa jaag yaavii
mii tulaa jaage karaave tuu malaa bilaguun jaave

devnagari

मलमली तारुण्य माझे तू पहाटे पांघरावे
मोकळ्या केसांत माझ्या तू जीवाला गुंतवावे

लागुनी थंडी गुलाबी शिरशिरी यावी अशी की
राजसा, माझ्यात तू अन् मी तुझ्यामाजी भिनावे

(गर्द राईतून यावा भारलेला गार वारा
तू मुक्या ओठात माझ्या दंशताजे उन प्यावे)

(चांदण्याचा श्वास जाईच्या फुलांमाजी विरावा
आपुल्या डोळ्यात सार्या तारकांनी विरघळावे)

तापल्या माझ्या तनूची तार झंकारून जावी
रेशमी संगीत स्पर्शाचे पुन्हा तू पेटवावे

रे तुला बाहूंत माझ्या रूपगंधा जाग यावी
मी तुला जागे करावे तू मला बिलगून जावे

I once asked a friend to translate malmali tarunya mazhe for me (such a lovely song--how come CR did not choose his lead singer?) but he said he would blush!!!!
Mandrake? Do the honours? Please.

Thanks for the vote of confidence, but do not retire because
1. You do a great job!
2. Your public needs you.
3. I am not any better. If I were to do a complete translation, I am sure to not be able to tranlate some parts (and even worse, translate some parts wrong)
4. my visits here are infrequent.

so carry on folks

Sorry Priya, visited this thread just now.
And your friend DID say that he/she would blush, right??
So would I

But in the interest of your curiosity, here goes:


malamalii taaruNya maajhe tuu pahaaTe paa.ngharaave
you should cover yourself with my silken young body in the early hours of the morning

mokaLyaa kesaa.nt maajhyaa tuu jiivaalaa gu.ntavaave
you should lose your way in my untied hair

laagunii tha.nDii gulaabii shirashirii yaavii ashii kii
I should get goose-pimples in this romantic cool weather

raajasaa, maajhyaat tuu an.h mii tujhyaamaajii bhinaave
darling, we should both be spreading inside each other

(gard raaiituun yaavaa bhaaralelaa gaar vaaraa
From the dense groves should come the enchanting cool breeze

tuu mukyaa oThaat maajhyaa da.nshataaje un pyaave)
you should drink the warm sunlight from my silent bitten lips

(chaa.ndaNyaachaa shwaas jaaiichyaa phulaa.nmaajii viraavaa
the breath of the stars should fade into the jaaee flowers

aapulyaa DoLyaat saar_yaa taarakaa.nnii viraghaLaave)
all the stars should melt into our eyes


taapalyaa maajhyaa tanuuchii taar jha.nkaaruun jaavii
the taut wires of my hot body should twang

reshamii sa.ngiit sparshaache punhaa tuu peTavaave
and you should re-kindle the music with your silken touches

re tulaa baahuu.nt maajhyaa ruupaga.ndhaa jaag yaavii
you should awaken when I hold you close in my arms

mii tulaa jaage karaave tuu malaa bilaguun jaave
I should awaken you and you should stick closely to me

gawwwwd.... where are the censors?

[quote=nm007,Jul 11 2005, 09:03 PM]
[quote=nm007,Jul 11 2005, 10:39 AM]lataa's marathi shringrarik songs seem to be sung with a quiet aliptataa, whereas aashaa just brings forth the wanting (please someone suggest the right word here)

[/quote]

NM, the word u look for would be 'passion'?

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

I just saw this!!!!! Was dumbstruck for a while!!!!
Got back my voice. Thanks a lot. No wonder my pal did not translate it -- main unko bhaiyya jo bolti hoon.

Great job Mandrake with the translation!



yup, passion is the word. (but not just the passion of love, but the passion of life)

The next one is not sung by anybody (as far as I know).
However the "greatest marathi poet ever" needs to be represented in this thread. So I will be itransifying the poem "pruthviiche premgiit" by kusumaagraj (who was awarded a very well deserverd dnyaanapiiTh, the second marathi writer with that award. Another one of his beautiful poems is swapnaachii samaaptii - kaaDh sakhe gaLyaatiil tujhe chaa.ndaNyaanche haat, kshitiijaachyaa paliikaDe ubhe divasaache duut)

For the non-marathi folk,
The poet has imagined that the earth is going round the sun because of its love for the sun and in this poem, the earth is telling the sun about her unrequited love

devanagarii

युगामागुनी चालली रे युगे ही
करावी किती भास्करा वंचना
किती काळ कक्षेत धावू तुझ्या मी
कितीदा करू प्रीतिची याचना

नव्हाळीतले ना उमाळे उसासे
न ती आग अंगात आता उरे
विझूनी अता यौवनाच्या मशाली
उरी राहिले काजळी कोपरे

परी अंतरी ज्योत प्रीतीची जागे
अविश्रांत राहील अन् जागती
न जाणे न नेणे कुठे चालले मी
कळे तू पुढे आणी मी मागुती

दिमाखात तारे नटोनी थटोनी
शिरी टाकती दिव्य उल्का फुले
परंतू तुझ्या मूर्तीवाचून देवा
मला वाटते विश्व अंधारले

तुवा सांडलेले कुठे अंतराळात
वेचुनिया दिव्य तेजःकण
मला मोहवाया बघे हा सुधांशू
तपाचार स्वीकारुनी दारुण

पिसारा प्रभेचा उभारून दारी
पहाटे उभा शुक्र हा प्रेमळ
करी याचना प्रीतीची लाजुनी
लाल होऊनिया लाजरा मंगळ

निराशेत संस्यस्त होऊनी बैसे
ऋषींच्या कुळी उत्तरेला ध्रुव
पिसाटापरी केस पिंजारुनीया
करी धूमकेतू कधी आर्जव

परी भव्य ते तेज पाहून पूजून
घेऊ गळ्याशी कसे काजवे
नको क्षुद्र शृंगार तो दुर्बळांचा
तुझी दूरता त्याहुनी साहवे

तळी जागणारा निखारा उफाळून
येतो कधी आठवाने वर
शहारून येते कधी अंग, तुझ्या
स्मृतीने उले अन् सले अंतर

गमे की तुझ्या रुद्र रूपात जावे
मिळोनी गळा घालुनिया गळा
तुझ्या लाल ओठांतली आग प्यावी
मिठीने तुझ्या तीव्र व्हाव्या कळा

अमर्याद मित्रा तुझी थोरवी अन्
मला ज्ञात मी एक धूलीकण
अलंकारण्याला परि पाय तुझे
धुळीचेच आहे मला भूषण

itrans

yugaamaagunii chaalalii re yuge hii
karaavii kitii bhaaskaraa va.nchanaa
kitii kaaL kakshet dhaavuu tujhyaa mii
kitiidaa karuu priitichii yaachanaa

navhaaLiitale naa umaaLe usaase
na tii aag a.ngaat aataa ure
vijhuunii ataa yauvanaachyaa mashaalii
urii raahile kaajaLii kopare

parii a.ntarii jyot priitiichii jaage
avishraa.nt raahiil an.h jaagatii
na jaaNe na neNe kuThe chaalale mii
kaLe tuu puDhe aaNii mii maagutii

dimaakhaat taare naTonii thaTonii
shirii Taakatii divya ulkaa phule
para.ntuu tujhyaa muurtiivaachuun devaa
malaa vaaTate vishva a.ndhaarale

tuvaa saa.nDalele kuThe a.ntaraaLaat
vechuniyaa divya tejaHkaN
malaa mohavaayaa baghe haa sudhaa.nshuu
tapaachaar sviikaarunii daaruN

pisaaraa prabhechaa ubhaaruun daarii
pahaaTe ubhaa shukra haa premaL
karii yaachanaa priitiichii laajunii
laal ho_uuniyaa laajaraa ma.ngaL

niraashet sa.nsyast ho_uunii baise
R^ishhii.nchyaa kuLii uttarelaa dhruva
pisaaTaaparii kes pi.njaaruniiyaa
karii dhuumaketuu kadhii aarjav

parii bhavya te tej paahuun puujuun
ghe_uu gaLyaashii kase kaajave
nako kshudra shR^i.ngaar to durbaLaa.nchaa
tujhii duurataa tyaahunii saahave

taLii jaagaNaaraa nikhaaraa uphaaLuun
yeto kadhii aaThavaane var
shahaaruun yete kadhii a.ng, tujhyaa
smR^itiine ule an.h sale a.ntar

game kii tujhyaa rudra ruupaat jaave
miLonii gaLaa ghaaluniyaa gaLaa
tujhyaa laal oThaa.ntalii aag pyaavii
miThiine tujhyaa tiivra vhaavyaa kaLaa

amaryaad mitraa tujhii thoravii an.h
malaa dnyaat mii ek dhuuliikaN
ala.nkaaraNyaalaa pari paay tujhe
dhuLiichech aahe malaa bhuushhaN

I have no idea about the details of this song. I guess, now your father can help us out !!!
Here you go......

-Dhananjay

Thanks Dhananjay,

sundaraa manaamadhe bharalii
gaayak: jayaraam shiledaar (thanks abhay)
chitrapaT: raamjoshii
sangiit: vasant desai
giit: shaahir raamjoshii

dad didnt remember the year. (and I didnt really expect that )
and I forgot to ask him who sang it, but abhay has that info.

The singer is Jayaram Shiledar who played Ramjoshi in the film.

Warm regards,
Abhay

This one is not a great poem, but its a great song none the less. (and its not quite laavaNii, so it goes here)

asaa nesuun shaaluu hiravaa
chitrapaT: kiichakavadh (1959)
gaayak: lataa ma.ngeshakar, sudhir phaDake aaNii itar
sangiit: maaster krishNaraav
giit: ga. di. maa.

NM,
This reminds me of another song from kiichakavadh -
dhunda madhumatii raatra re, naath re
tan man naache, yauvan naache
ugavalaa rajaniichaa naath re, naath re

I was wondering if it qualifies for shrungaar ras
I have the song in my collection....Will upload, if it seems OK for this thread !!!

-Dhananjay

of course Dhananjay. (If you feel like singing it to your wife/gf (real or imaginary ) in a romantic mood, it is shrungaar ras ) Please go ahead and u/l it.

Here it is.... Not sure of the effect it'll have on GF. If she reads too much into it, I'll end up with a swollen eye !!

lovely song.....I like this song very much....thanks Dhananjay

does malavoona tak deep qualify under shrungaar ras?.....if not then which ras is it?

"dhund madhumatii" is a very nice soft mdelodius tune. and ga. di. ma. has written a song with fitting words that match the softness of the tune. All in all a great song matched with a great tune!

details:

dhund madhumatii raat re
chitrapaT: kiichakavadh (1959)
gaayikaa: lataa ma.ngeshakar
sangiit: maaster krishNaraav
giit: ga. di. maa.

I would classify it as shrungaar (talks about love after a long "virah"). However it is in a different mood. (I get the feeling that the woman's love is not being returned with the same intensity )

mangesh paaDagaavakar, the eminent poet of the new generation is not represented in this thread
So here is

हात तुझा हातातून धुंद ही हवा
रोजचाच चंद्र आज भासतो नवा

श्रीनिवास खळ्यांची ही चाल, गायली आहे अरुण दाते आणी सुधा मल्होत्रा यांनी

lyrics to follow

itrans

haat tujhaa haataatuun dhu.nd hii havaa
rojachaach cha.ndra aaj bhaasato navaa

rojachech he vaare, rojachech taare
bhaasate parii naviin vishva aaj saare
hii kimayaa sparshaachii bhaarite jiivaa

yaa haLavyaa paaNyaavar moharalyaa Chaayaa
moharale hR^iday tase, moharalii kaayaa
chaa.ndaNyaat tharatharato madhur gaaravaa

janm janm durmiL haa kshaN asalaa yeto
swapnaa.nchyaa vaaTene chaa.ndaNyaat neto
bilagataach jaa_iichaa umalato thavaa

kshaNabhar miTale DoLe, sukh na malaa saahe
viraghaLuun cha.ndra aaj raktaatuun vaahe
aaj phule praaNaa.ntuun kesharii divaa

devanagari

हात तुझा हातातून धुंद ही हवा
रोजचाच चंद्र आज भासतो नवा

रोजचेच हे वारे, रोजचेच तारे
भासते परी नवीन विश्व आज सारे
ही किमया स्पर्शाची भारिते जीवा

या हळव्या पाण्यावर मोहरल्या छाया
मोहरले हृदय तसे, मोहरली काया
चांदण्यात थरथरतो मधुर गारवा

जन्म जन्म दुर्मिळ हा क्षण असला येतो
स्वप्नांच्या वाटेने चांदण्यात नेतो
बिलगताच जाईचा उमलतो थवा

क्षणभर मिटले डोळे, सुख न मला साहे
विरघळून चंद्र आज रक्तातून वाहे
आज फुले प्राणांतून केशरी दिवा