Anaman, perhaps you are trying to upload an mp3 file directly. As per rules here, you cannot do that. Either zip or rar the file and upload.

All the best

Thanks for your suggestion.
In fact I have tried .zip and .rar both. May be something to do with my office network. I will check this from a different place.

This song is NOT raga DES but raga DESI.

They are quite different from each other.

VSV

Thanks for your suggestion.
In fact I have tried .zip and .rar both. May be something to do with my office network. I will check this from a different place.

Here is the attachment. I had network problems earlier.

Film : Basant Bahar (1956)
Raag : Basant
MD : Vasant Desai
Voice: Pt Bhimsen Joshi & Manna Dey

Hello My Dear Friends,

I asked for some Songs a couple of weeks ago and I got a few. Thank u Very much
For yr Kind help. But still Iam looking for a song " Kaahaarbaa Nay Daadraa Baajaao "
Sang by Manna Dey, Can any 1 plz post this for me ? or if it is already here then just write The
Link .... Another song is " Lapak Jhapak tu Aare Badarwa " by Manna Dey, these 2 songs ....

Nature,
Lapak Jhapak has been uploaded at #36 here:
http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?show...indpost&p=98053

dEAR fORUM ,
i i AM NOT MUCH KNOWLEDGABLE WITH RAAGA ETC BUT i ENJOY CLASSICAL BASED SONGS, ONE OF MY FAV IS
rAFI SAABS bADA aADMI SONG "Ankhiyan sang ankhia --- aaj
jhoome me bar baar ,
nit aasa to mausam aa ee naa

I would request some great soul to please up load the following songs

Lata mangeshkarji

Jhann jhan baje payalia kaise jaoon pee ke milan ko

Film Buzdil by SD burman

2) na dim dirna tana de re na na ja na balam
Anil Biswas pardesi

Please please please

Thank you in advance

Guys, it seems there is dearth of classical based songs. Hardly any uploads these days.
Can anybody u/l the following -
Song - Koi Matwala aya more dware
Movie - Love in Tokyo
Raga - Kanada, darbari

Here you go ...

Thanks a ton.

Thank u very much Bibhas Ji .. Thank u. BTW Friends, how can I write .RAR files into CD ?
I tried it manytimes but couldn't do it. Writing as a DATA file must do it but the message I got
Was " Invalid File Format " ... Can any 1 please tell me how to do so ?

Nature,
you're most welcome. RAR is like a "zipped" file and you need to unrar the files to get the mp3 versions. You can use a program called "Winrar" to unrar the files (If you're using a mac, you can use Stuffit Expander). Once you have the mp3s, you can use one of any number of programs to burn audio CDs or mp3 CDs. I use iTunes for this.
Bibhas

Bibhas Ji, I have winrar and I used to listen to the Music by unraring it. But when I try to write the
Same file It can't do it. I will try it again, but do I have to make another file after unraring ?

hi frds
one thing that i want clarfy from you , whether Pure clasical songs are btter then semi classical songs with mass apeal???

if Pure classical songs are better then wats the point in discussing those hfm songs when the ulimate singers of classical music are non filmi???

okay if semi classical songs are best then wat according to you shd be the extent of classical content in these songs???

some times we tend to differentate betwen two songs on the basis of calssical /raga content rather then its overall listening pleasure!!

does making a classical song difficult than a catchy big hit song?????

i would like you people to clarify few of my queries!!

God bless
Sonu

My thoughts (I've taken the liberty to number your questions) -

1) The answer depends on your definition of "better". If you equate "betterness" with mass appeal, pure classical songs are definitely not "better". However, if purity of music is what "better" means, then you have a different answer altogether.

2) Well, there could be any number of reasons. Here's one - Maybe it is okay to discuss things that are not always "better".

3) We can discuss this point, even if semi-classical songs are not "the best" or "better". My thought - Songs in movies should converge to the situation at hand in the movie. After all, we are talking about playback singing here.

4) Yes, sometimes we do. And that's fine. Differentiating songs based on raags does not either diminish or enhance its overall listening value.

5) It could be either way. Creating a classical song based on a "difficult" raag could actually be a simple thing to do, since all you have to do is follow the rules set down in the raag. On the other hand, there's no way to define "mass appeal". So, creating a"hit song" seems to be much more difficult. Now let me turn the argument on its head - Since there are no set principles which define "hit songs", maybe all "hit songs" are actually flukes. Or maybe, the song has nothing to do with it being a hit. Maybe it's the actor's charisma, or the big banner or just the fact that the weather was good for a month, that causes a song to be a chart topper....maybe it's a combination of all these factors. The creation of the "pure/semi classical song", however, would involve hours of practice and mastery of various nuances. So, a classical song is more difficult to create. As you can see, depending on your frame of reference, you could conclude either way.

Hope this helps.

Thanks
Hits

Hi Friends....

Looking for a popular rendition by Shobha Gurtu.....(I guess it was her)

Really not sure whether the song appeared in any FILM, but I'm sure this song was used as the Title Track for a serial named "Gulmohar West" that used to come on Zee TV during its initial years. The song went as "Rang Saari...Gulaabi.....Chunariya Re......." Does anyone have this one???

This is in continuation of Hit ji's post to Sonu's query:

Composing a pure classical song is not a big deal for most composers. One needs to choose a raag, and compose a tune that remains within the confines of it's aaroh and avaroha and goes by the 'ang'. In between, a liberal sprinkiling of the pakad is essential.

The catch is in making the song simple and catchy. There are many film songs which can be termed 'pure classical' based on the criteria I mentioned above. And mind you, they do not have a single 'alaap-taan' in them.

Think of 'jaane kahaan gaye woh din'. Pure shivranjani.
'Naam gum jaayega'. Pure Yaman.
'Jab deep jale aana'. Pure yaman.
'Tu chhupi hai kahaan, main tadapta yahaan'. Malkauns.

The point is simple. The skill lies in composing a catchy and melodious number. Merely using a raag doesn't guarantee that. Also, using a raag doesn't necessarily make the song 'heavy' and beyond common reach. The above illustrations should prove the point.

Classical songs to bohat hain bhai, depends on what you call "classical". After all, all of our music is raag dhaari sangeet.

Anyway, uling songs i consider "classical" because the people singing them are not playback singers but legitimate hindustani vocalists instead. This one by Kishori Amonkar from Geet gaya patharon ne.

Chhed diye mere dil ke taar kyoon. The legendary Amir Khan sings for OP Nayyar, who (interestingly enough) always claimed he was not trained in classical music.

Chhed Diye Mere Dil Ke Taar - Amanat Ali, Fateh Ali - Raagini - 1958 - Ashok Kumar, Nasir Hussain

I have a very very faint recollection that the two singers of his song are Amanat Ali Khan of the Bhendibazaar Gharana (the guru-bhai of Amir Khan-Saheb and disciple of Ustad Aman Ali Khan) and Fateh Ali Khan of the Patiala Gharana. Amir Kan-saheb sang a Lalit in the same movie (jogiya more ghar aaye)

I may be off the mark. Can some please clarify this?

Regards-Archie.

Yeh Gaana Aaj tak kisine suna hi nahin??? Maine toh samjha tha ki yeh gaana bahut prasiddh hai???

That's accurate Archie....on both counts. I've corrected my previous post. Thanks for pointing it out.

Thanks Hits-ji for the confirmation. It's based on raag Kamod (same as Lata-bai's 'aye ri jaane na doongi' in Chitralekha).

Nayyar-saab was very versatile. Though a lot of his compositions were based on raag Pilu, he has a beautiful kedar (aap yun hi agar hum se milte rahen), yaman (savere ka suraj tumhare liye hain) and in one paritular song, a clever mix of nand (the line 'roop tera aisa darpan mein na samaay'), hameer (in the line 'mujhe naa mili jo woh khushi tu ne paayi') and tilang (in the line 'itna sukh dena jeevan mein naa samaay')

A very very competent composer indeed.

Regards-Archie.

Thnx Hits ji
for the reply and for clearing the doubts and found them very near to my point of view
i was away so couldnt reply early

acha abt point 4 i want to add that why shd we distinguish between two songs

one being classical with easy raags and other being simple hit song of movie....We always appreciate the classical song for its " qulaity" just forgeting that its not always difficult to make a classical song rather a good melodios song can take hell lot of labour!!
i think we shd drop this image that classical songs are always btter then other non classical songs !!

i will post soon
SJ fan
Sonu

I am still looking for the song "Kahaarbaa nay daadra Bajao"
And "Lapak Jhapak" By Manna Dey .. Can any 1 plz help me ? ....

Nature,
I had pointed you to the source for Lapak Jhapak in my post #107 in this thread. Didn't you download it ? (Too bad it's gone now).
For the other song, it might help to provide more details and/or post in the respective singer/MD forum.
Bibhas

Nature bhai i can upload the song for you in case you need it

PM me or wait for one day..........

let me get it


thnx
SJ fan
Sonu

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Lapak jhapak tu aa re badarwaa

Manna Dey

Boot Polish (1954)

Mus Shankar Jaikishan, Lyr Saraswati Kumar Deepak

Raag Adaana

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- A

Bibhas Ji yes I remember about what u said but there was a problem so I couldn't download it
Now I have downloaded this. I am sorry if created any kind of problem including wasting Server
Space ... Thank u all, Thank u very much especially to Anil Kumar Ji .....

Lyricist: ?

Jan Nisar Akhtar

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Here is a song in the Raga Bhairavi

"Mandve tale garibke, do phool khil rahe hain"

Singer, actor - C H Atma

Geet Gaaya Pattharonne (1964)

Music -Ramlal, Geet - Hasrat Jaipuri

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-A