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post Nov 30 2008, 04:11 PM
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In the Sangeet ke Sitarey forum, Faraaj has started a thread about film songs inspired by earlier songs. In many cases, the inspiration for a song is a classical/semi-classical bandish. This thread is meant for the longer classical and semi-classical pieces; I am starting it here so that classical music fans can also access these pieces easily.

The first piece being uploaded here is a "kajri" that inspired the famous Lata song from "Udan Khatola" - "more sai.nyaa.Njii utare.nge paar ho nadiyaa dhiire baho". It has been sung by many singers; the version being uploaded here is by the great Padmavati Shaligram (Gokhale) of the Jaipur Atrauli gharana. It is taken from a recording of a live concert where she also sang a wonderful Nand. The kajri is 18:16 minutes long and is encoded in mp3 at 128 kbps.



The post talking about the film song can be found at

http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?show...amp;st=15&#

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post Nov 30 2008, 05:42 PM
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post Dec 7 2008, 07:56 PM
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The thread continues with a Miyan Ki Malhar drut bandish, "bole re papiiharaa". The version uploaded here is by Gangubai Hangal and her daughter Krishna Hangal.

The film song can be accessed at http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?show...id=554675&# (post # 45).

Raaga Miyan Ki Malhar
Bandish: bole re papiiharaa
Duration: 6:06 minutes
Encoding: mp3 @ 160 kbps



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Next, we come to the famous thumri, "kaun galii gayo shyaam". Details and upload of its two film versions can be found in post # 46 at this link:

http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?show...id=554686&#

The recital being posted here is a live recording of Rasoolan Bai. As I said in the other thread, my (completely) untutored ears feel that there is a strong Jogiya element in her rendition of what is traditionally sung as a Khamaj thumri. Expert views are more than welcome!

The recording is 9:42 minutes long; the encoding is in mp3 @ 160 kbps.



(A short extract of this is included along with the film songs at the above link.)

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post Dec 8 2008, 01:48 PM
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Abhayp

Really enjoying your uploads! The snippets on the SKS forum are useful too but I obviously prefer hearing the complete piece.

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Rasoolan Bai is phenomenal! I definitely need more stuff by her...


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post Dec 8 2008, 03:07 PM
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Two marvellous renditions of the canonical Nat Bihag bandish, "jhan jhan jhan jhan paayal baaje", are being uploaded here. The details about the songs inspired by this bandish - and uploads of the inspired songs - can be accessed in post #49 at the following link:

http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?show...amp;st=45&#

The first classical version is a short rendition by 'aaftaab-e-mausiiqii' Faiyaz Khan of the Agra gharana. A 78 rpm recording that has been released subsequently on LP and CD, this rendition is a great illustration of how the essence of a raaga can be demonstrated in just over 3 minutes - 3:01 minutes, to be precise. The version being uploaded here has been encoded in mp3 @ 188 kbps (VBR).



A longer rendition (10:40 minutes) comes from Mallikarjun Mansur - and shows clearly why he is regarded as one of the best singers in the Hindustani tradition. Mansur has recorded this bandish both in drut laya (the version uploaded here) and in madhya-laya (a 21-minute rendition). The former recording is uploaded below, encoded in mp3 @ 128 kbps.



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QUOTE(Faraaj73 @ Dec 8 2008, 01:54 PM) *

Rasoolan Bai is phenomenal! I definitely need more stuff by her...


I shall upload more pieces by her but it will take a few days - I am going to have very limited connectivity for from the 10th till the 22nd. Am very happy to find a fellow-fan of Rasoolan Bai!

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post Dec 9 2008, 10:40 PM
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Abhayji,

This is indeed a fabulous thread and the postings so far have been really terrific.

I just had a humble request. If it were possible for you to post the Rasoolanbai pieces in a lossless format such as flac, that will be greatly appreciated. Of course, hamaraforums will not permit it but I am sure you will find many decent services that you can use. Especially if you are posting pieces that are not commercially available.

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QUOTE(abhayp @ Dec 8 2008, 03:07 PM) *

Two marvellous renditions of the canonical Nat Bihag bandish, "jhan jhan jhan jhan paayal baaje", are being uploaded here. The details about the songs inspired by this bandish - and uploads of the inspired songs - can be accessed in post #49 at the following link:

http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?show...amp;st=45&#

The first classical version is a short rendition by 'aaftaab-e-mausiiqii' Faiyaz Khan of the Agra gharana. A 78 rpm recording that has been released subsequently on LP and CD, this rendition is a great illustration of how the essence of a raaga can be demonstrated in just over 3 minutes - 3:01 minutes, to be precise. The version being uploaded here has been encoded in mp3 @ 188 kbps (VBR).



A longer rendition (10:40 minutes) comes from Mallikarjun Mansur - and shows clearly why he is regarded as one of the best singers in the Hindustani tradition. Mansur has recorded this bandish both in drut laya (the version uploaded here) and in madhya-laya (a 21-minute rendition). The former recording is uploaded below, encoded in mp3 @ 128 kbps.



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post Dec 12 2008, 02:54 AM
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Fantastic pair of threads Abhay and Faraaj!

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Next in this thread is the Malkauns bandish, "mandir dekh Dare". The canonical rendition of this by Bade Ghulam Ali Khan, and the Rafi rendition inspired by it, can be found in post # 59 on this link:

http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?show...id=560374&#

A longer rendition by Kankana Bannerjee, released in the mid-1990s on a Rhythm House release, is being uploaded here (9:29 min, mp3 @ 160 kbps):



If anyone has a longer - read concert - rendition of this by BGAK, please do upload it!

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Next is a bandish in Raag Bihag that has inspired film songs on both sides of the Radcliffe Line - "laT ulajhii sulajhaa jaa baalam". There have been many Hindustani vocal renditions of this bandish. The two chosen here are by Jasraj and by Kankana Bannerjee. The Jasraj version comes from the recording of a live concert given at Kolkata in 1989; the Kankana Bannerjee version first appeared on an MHV LP of hers in 1984 and has since been re-released on cassette and CD.

Since Kankana Bannerjee counts among her guru-s Pratap Narayan, elder brother of Jasraj, it is natural that the two renditions have a lot in common; the beauty lies in the fact that they both stamp their individuality on their respective renditions very clearly!

A small snippet of the KB rendition - and the two films songs inspired by it, one sung by Noor Jehan and the other by Geeta Dutt - can be found in post # 60 here:

http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?show...id=560701&#

The complete versions of the classical renditions appear below, both encoded in mp3 @ 160 kbps. First, the Jasraj version, which is 9:14 minutes long:



The Kankana Bannerjee version, which is 4:48 minutes long:



In their original form, both renditions are followed by another canonical Bihag bandish: "dekho morii ra.ng me.n bhigoye Daarii". The Jasraj recording - and, indeed, the complete concert - is available for listening on MusicIndiaOnline. If anyone is interested in the Kankana Bannerjee version, please let me know and I will post it here.

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Abhayji,

This is turning into a superb thread. I was really not aware of the Rafi rendition.

I am uploading Bade Ghulam Ali's "Mandir Dekh Dare" from the released AIR archives.
It is a zip file, mp3 encoded at 192K and duration is 12:49.

Look forward to many more interesting posts from you on this subject.

Cheers,

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QUOTE(abhayp @ Dec 29 2008, 02:43 PM) *

Next in this thread is the Malkauns bandish, "mandir dekh Dare". The canonical rendition of this by Bade Ghulam Ali Khan, and the Rafi rendition inspired by it, can be found in post # 59 on this link:

http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?show...id=560374&#

A longer rendition by Kankana Bannerjee, released in the mid-1990s on a Rhythm House release, is being uploaded here (9:29 min, mp3 @ 160 kbps):



If anyone has a longer - read concert - rendition of this by BGAK, please do upload it!

Warm regards,
Abhay

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QUOTE(Kaansen @ Dec 30 2008, 10:18 PM) *

Abhayji,

This is turning into a superb thread. I was really not aware of the Rafi rendition.

I am uploading Bade Ghulam Ali's "Mandir Dekh Dare" from the released AIR archives.
It is a zip file, mp3 encoded at 192K and duration is 12:49.

Look forward to many more interesting posts from you on this subject.


Thanks a ton for the compliment - and thanks a thousand times for the recording! I didn't know a longer rendition had been released.

Many more songs to come in this thread yet!

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There is also Anup Jalota version of Mandir Dekh Dare.

I have it on a casette but some reason my software for converting music from casettes to mp3 format has failed repeatedly so I can not share the piece with you. Hope someone else has it and will be kind enough to upload.

Prabhakar

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QUOTE(Kaansen @ Dec 30 2008, 10:18 PM) *

Abhayji,

This is turning into a superb thread. I was really not aware of the Rafi rendition.

I am uploading Bade Ghulam Ali's "Mandir Dekh Dare" from the released AIR archives.
It is a zip file, mp3 encoded at 192K and duration is 12:49.

Look forward to many more interesting posts from you on this subject.


Thanks a ton for the compliment - and thanks a thousand times for the recording! I didn't know a longer rendition had been released.

Many more songs to come in this thread yet!

Warm regards,
Abhay

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