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post Nov 10 2007, 11:41 PM
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QUOTE(anjvajay @ Nov 10 2007, 10:38 AM) *

Shukriya Madhavi,
Kisi doosari jaban ke lafz ke liye theek lafz talaash karna humesa mushkil hota hai. Maine dekha ki jyadater dictionaries me ‘Dharohar’ ka matlab ‘Deposit’ diya huwa hai. Lekin bure se bure translator ko agar 'cash deposit' ko hindi me translate karna ho to ise 'naqad dharohar' nahin likhega. Deposit ke liye hindi me koi sahi lafz nahin hai, theek waise hi jaise Dharohar ke liye English me. Dharohar ke sabse kareeb ka lafz Amaanat hai(Sahir ki dharohar=Sahir ki amaanat).

Dharohar ka root Sanskrit ka 'Dhar' hai jis ka matlab rakhana,pakadna ya sambhalna hota hai('Dharti' ka root bhi yahi 'dhar' hai ). Dharohar ka doosra hissa Sanskit ka 'Arh'(kabil-Able) hai jo 'Prakrit' ki chhalni se gujarte huwe 'Apbhrans'(jis se aaj kal India me boli jaanewali jaydater Indo-European jabane nikli hain) tak aate-aate 'Har' ho jata hai. Lobbo lubab ye ki Dharohar = rakhne ya smbhalne ke kabil.

Jabanon ko achchhi tarah janane ke liye unka carnet reference bahut jaroori ho jaata hai.
Dharohar ka 'Heritage' ke liye istemal naya hai. Lekin ab hindi me aam hai. Maslan : 'Taj ek waishwik dharohar(World Haritage) hai.' Lekin agar koi dictionary utha ke dekhe to use ab bhi Heritage ke liye 'Miraas' 'Viraasat' ya 'Rikth' to milega Dharohar shayad kahin nahin.

Khair linguistics se aur uljhane se behter hai ki is thread me kuchh aur add karne ki koshish karoon. Aapke bore hone ke liye shayad itna kaafi hai.


Ajay,

Apart from you fabulous uploads, your explanations are the fun part of your posts. Please don't stop that... ohmy.gif . Had not connected the "dhar" root to dharti, very interesting. Thank you for the songs, had just three of them. Have not heard them yet, am looking forward to listening to them.



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post Nov 10 2007, 11:42 PM
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QUOTE(anjvajay @ Nov 10 2007, 11:22 PM) *

Ka Se Kul Duniya Hamari Jisme Bharat Desh Hai-1
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Ka Se Kul Duniya Hamari Jisme Bharat Desh Hai-2
3:29@160Kbps

Mohe La De Chunariya Lal Ki Aise Nahin Roop Khilta
3:21@160Kbps

Lage Tose Nain Lage
http://talatmahmood.net/TALAT%20MAHMOOD%20...KI%20DEEWAR.mp3

Ashkon Me Jo Paya Hai Geeton Me Diya Hai
http://talatmahmood.net/TALAT%20MAHMOOD%20...KI%20DEEWAR.mp3



thanks very much.

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post Nov 10 2007, 11:52 PM
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QUOTE(anjvajay @ Nov 6 2007, 07:01 AM) *

Chalo Hato Jaao Sainya, Nahin Bolungi Nahin Bolungi
3:19@160Kbps


Raat Muskuraati Hai Dhadkane Jagati Hai
3:13@160Kbps


Nazar Se Dil Me Samane Wale Meri Mohabbat Tere Liye Hai
3:14@160Kbps


PS : 'Piye Ja Piye Ja Piye Ja - Khan Mastana, Balbir & Chorus' not available on record.


this song is available on 78 rpm--rec no---N51048-------song starts with these lines--aap aaye hain nasihat humen farmane(heard it last time long time back)

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PANDIT BOLA YE RAAT HAI----MULLA BHI BOLA YE RAAT HAI
YE SUBEH SUBEH KI BAAT HAI'

"brutality to an animal is cruelty to mankind-its only da difference in the victim."

you don't need testimonials and trumpets to prove kishore kumar the best'

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post Nov 11 2007, 12:23 AM
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QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ Nov 10 2007, 11:41 PM) *

QUOTE(anjvajay @ Nov 10 2007, 10:38 AM) *



Ajay,

Apart from you fabulous uploads, your explanations are the fun part of your posts. Please don't stop that... ohmy.gif . Had not connected the "dhar" root to dharti, very interesting. Thank you for the songs, had just three of them. Have not heard them yet, am looking forward to listening to them.

Shukriya Madhavi,
..likin kisi ne kaha tha na "mujhe dus kode lagaao lekin ek line likhne ko mat kaho" apna mamla bhi kuch aisa hi hai.
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post Nov 11 2007, 12:29 AM
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QUOTE(yob @ Nov 10 2007, 11:52 PM) *

QUOTE(anjvajay @ Nov 6 2007, 07:01 AM) *

Chalo Hato Jaao Sainya, Nahin Bolungi Nahin Bolungi
3:19@160Kbps


Raat Muskuraati Hai Dhadkane Jagati Hai
3:13@160Kbps


Nazar Se Dil Me Samane Wale Meri Mohabbat Tere Liye Hai
3:14@160Kbps


PS : 'Piye Ja Piye Ja Piye Ja - Khan Mastana, Balbir & Chorus' not available on record.


this song is available on 78 rpm--rec no---N51048-------song starts with these lines--aap aaye hain nasihat humen farmane(heard it last time long time back)

Shukriya Yob,
Mere paas jo teen disk hain un par sirf ye 6 song hi hain jo maine upload kiye hain. Mumkin hai ki ek disk missing ho. Shayad kisi mehrbaan ke paas nikal aaye. Abbasi Saahab bhi bahut dinon se iski talaash me hain.
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post Nov 11 2007, 12:35 AM
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QUOTE(anjvajay @ Nov 11 2007, 12:29 AM) *

QUOTE(yob @ Nov 10 2007, 11:52 PM) *

QUOTE(anjvajay @ Nov 6 2007, 07:01 AM) *

Chalo Hato Jaao Sainya, Nahin Bolungi Nahin Bolungi
3:19@160Kbps


Raat Muskuraati Hai Dhadkane Jagati Hai
3:13@160Kbps


Nazar Se Dil Me Samane Wale Meri Mohabbat Tere Liye Hai
3:14@160Kbps


PS : 'Piye Ja Piye Ja Piye Ja - Khan Mastana, Balbir & Chorus' not available on record.


this song is available on 78 rpm--rec no---N51048-------song starts with these lines--aap aaye hain nasihat humen farmane(heard it last time long time back)

Shukriya Yob,
Mere paas jo teen disk hain un par sirf ye 6 song hi hain jo maine upload kiye hain. Mumkin hai ki ek disk missing ho. Shayad kisi mehrbaan ke paas nikal aaye. Abbasi Saahab bhi bahut dinon se iski talaash me hain.


qasim bhai is a very good friend of mine----------darasal is disc ke dono side yahi song hai---baki teen disc main 2 songs each hain.

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PANDIT BOLA YE RAAT HAI----MULLA BHI BOLA YE RAAT HAI
YE SUBEH SUBEH KI BAAT HAI'

"brutality to an animal is cruelty to mankind-its only da difference in the victim."

you don't need testimonials and trumpets to prove kishore kumar the best'

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post Nov 11 2007, 12:37 AM
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Thanks for sharing.

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post Nov 11 2007, 12:43 AM
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QUOTE(anjvajay @ Nov 10 2007, 11:16 AM) *

Chandi Ki Deewar(1964)
MD : N. Dutta



Thanks for this rare album.

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post Nov 11 2007, 04:52 AM
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QUOTE(anjvajay @ Nov 10 2007, 12:16 PM) *

Chandi Ki Deewar(1964)
MD : N. Dutta

Kahin Karar Na Ho Aur Kahin Khushi Na Mile
Hamare Baad Kisi Ko Ye Zindagi Na Mile

Yahi Sulook Hai Gar Aadami Se Duniya Ka
To Kuchh Azab Nahin Duniya Me Aadmi Na Mile

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Barso Raam Dhadake Se, Budhiya Mar Gayi Faake Se
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Jo Kahne Se Tum Sharmati Ho Wo Baat Kaho To Main Kah Doon
3:05@160Kbps

Ye Duniya Rang Birangi Hai
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Ajayji thanks likhna ab bekaar aur bahut chhota lagta hai phir bhi aapka bahut bahut thanks for this album, sirf 5 songs the mere paas Chaandi Ki Deewar se!
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post Nov 11 2007, 09:47 PM
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Guru ji, Hari ji, Anupama ji : Most welcome!
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Jeewan Jyoti(1953)
MD : S D Burman

So Ja Re So Ja Meri Ankhiyon Ke Taare
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Saari Khushiyan Saath Aayeen Aap Jab Aaye
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Tasveeren Banati Hain, Kirne Si Chhanti Hain
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Balama Ne Man Har Leena Kaisa Jadoo Keena
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Lag Gayi Ankhiyan O More Balam
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post Nov 11 2007, 10:33 PM
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Chhayi Kaari Badaariya Bairaniyan Ho Raam
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2:53@160Kbps
Lag_Gai_Ankhiyan_O_More_Balam_Geeta_Dutt_Mohd_Rafi.rar ( 3.23 MB )
anjvajay bhai,

Thank you for the duet upload of the above song.


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Ajay,

I seem to have a couple of songs by Asha and Geeta of the original Lata versions. (So Ja and Chaayi Kari Badariya). Have too many unsorted files of that album, so give me a couple of days to sort them out, I am a little tied up right now. I think these rare versions were originally uploaded by Mahesh.

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Chaaii Kaari Badariya - Asha Bhosle - Jeevan Jyoti (1953) - S. D. Burman - Sahir - 3:20 - 128 kbps
So Ja Mere Akhiyon Ke Tare - Asha Bhosle - Jeevan Jyoti (1953) - S. D. Burman - Sahir - 3:25 - 96 kbps
Darshan Pyase - Asha Bhosle - Jeevan Jyoti (1953) - S. D. Burman - Sahir - 1:53 - 64 kbps
Chandni Ki Palki Mein Baithkar - Asha Bhosle - Jeevan Jyoti (1953) - S. D. Burman - Sahir - 4:15 - 128 kbps



So what is the reason for asha and lata version of the songs.
Is it that one is film version and the other is album version.
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