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post May 17 2007, 12:14 PM
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I must add, that "Mora gora ang lai le" is another example of an almost near perferct song (IMHO). Meaningful lyrics, great tune, nice folk based rhythmic music and voice of Goddess !

(Another perfect song at the top of my head will be Yeh duniya agar mil bhi jaaye toh kya hain..)

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QUOTE(parag_sankla @ May 17 2007, 01:44 AM) *

I must add, that "Mora gora ang lai le" is another example of an almost near perferct song (IMHO). Meaningful lyrics, great tune, nice folk based rhythmic music and voice of Goddess !

(Another perfect song at the top of my head will be Yeh duniya agar mil bhi jaaye toh kya hain..)

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Yes... Gulzar's sensuous lyrics with Lata's pristine voice supported by SDB... It reminds me of another incredible combination "Aaj Sajan Mohe " smile.gif



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post May 17 2007, 12:23 PM
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QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ May 17 2007, 12:18 PM) *

QUOTE(parag_sankla @ May 17 2007, 01:44 AM) *

I must add, that "Mora gora ang lai le" is another example of an almost near perferct song (IMHO). Meaningful lyrics, great tune, nice folk based rhythmic music and voice of Goddess !

(Another perfect song at the top of my head will be Yeh duniya agar mil bhi jaaye toh kya hain..)

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Yes... Gulzar's sensuous lyrics with Lata's pristine voice supported by SDB... It reminds me of another incredible combination "Aaj Sajan Mohe " smile.gif



Hey hey, now if I would have said that, it would have sounded that I am being biased about my favorite singer !

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post May 17 2007, 12:36 PM
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But Paragbhai, so what if you are biased towards your favorite singer? biggrin.gif
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Superb, - Madhavi, Mandrake, Nature, Parag and HumTum.

Just logged on and saw 'Humaare Peeth Peechhe Kya Ho Rahaa Hai' biggrin.gif

Excellent Idea and Thoughts, please do continue, and wherever possible I will def put in my Chavanni. smile.gif

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QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ May 17 2007, 12:18 PM) *

QUOTE(parag_sankla @ May 17 2007, 01:44 AM) *

I must add, that "Mora gora ang lai le" is another example of an almost near perferct song (IMHO). Meaningful lyrics, great tune, nice folk based rhythmic music and voice of Goddess !

(Another perfect song at the top of my head will be Yeh duniya agar mil bhi jaaye toh kya hain..)

Cheers
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Yes... Gulzar's sensuous lyrics with Lata's pristine voice supported by SDB... It reminds me of another incredible combination "Aaj Sajan Mohe " smile.gif

Both in the same vein, no doubt, but somehow Aaj Sajan Mohey tilts a little on the bhajan kinda side, in the tune I mean, whereas Mora Gora Rang is a complete love number even tho it refers to Shyam Rang Dai De, IMO.

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Ek Baar Chaley Jaate Hain Jo Din-Raat, Suboh-Shaam, Wo Phir Naheen Aate, Wo Phir Naheen Aate,
Zindagi Ke Safar Mein Guzar Jaate Hain Jo Makaam, Wo Phir Naheen Aate, Wo Phir Naheen Aate...

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Dosto,

Moka Bhi Hai Aur Datur Bhi Hai....

..enjoy 'Live' chat with Gulzar Sahab

Draft Transcript of Live Chat of Gulzar on Rediff on 17th July,1999

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swastik : namaskaar ... Gulzar saheb aaye kya?
Ajit Singh : Thodisi Zameen, Thoda Aasmaan Tinkon Ka Bas Ek Aashian ....
Mausam : Shaam se aankh main kuch nami si hain. Is Gulzaar Saab here??
vinay : hello sablog,
Darshan : Hi mausam: he'll be here in approx. 4 mins. But don't quote me on that, as I'm going on GMT!!
swastik : Ummeed hogi koi... 5 baje warna koi aata nahi... ;-)

Gulzar : Adaab everybody, nice meeting you all :-)
vinay : sir, dil se shuru kareN
Jehangir : Gulzar Sahab, Adaab. This is the postman from Karachi. Sultan-e-Mausiqui is at office he had also wished to join me now
Darshan : Adaab Arz, Gulzar sahib? Kaise hai aap?


Mausam : So here are we all But where's the man-in-Question??
Gulzar : Mausam: Main aa gaya hoon bas aap ki kami si hai:-)
Mausam : WOW , Woh ghadi aa gayi . We are flattered ,Gulzar Saab
sandeep : hello gulzaarsaab are u really there . aapko dil dhoondta hai ..

Milind Desai : Sir When is "Libaas" releasing?
Gulzar : Milind Desai: It is still in the laundry, I'm not sure of the producers plan. Vikas Mohan the editor and proprietor of Complete Cinema is the producer of the film. Ask him:-)

vinay : sir dil se ke baare meiN aap kya sochte haiN. to be frank i was disappointed by the overall effect
Gulzar : Vinay: Visually very very charming. Script required a little more clarity, the music was a superb experience. The fog in the visuals looked good but the fog in the story was blinding.

Kashif (USA) :I wanted to get your opinion about the future of urdu. and what should be the urdu -hindi relations since the are so close and yet different from each other.

Gulzar : Kashif: They are not so different to each other, the idioms of one are used in the other, each one compliments the other for beautifying the expression. The language that we use in films is perhaps the most appropriate, and speakable without any pretences. I think that's the right language of the people. Name it Urdu, Hindi or Hindustani. Urdu has a different (Persian) script, Hindi has Devnagri.Hindi as it is, is read in Urdu script. I wish Urdu be read in Hindi script the same way without any prejudice. A language can have two scripts like Punjabi which is written in Gurumukhi on this side of the border now and in Persian script on the other side. I wish Urdu be adopted in both the scripts with equal love.

Mehta : Gulzar Sir, Why Gulzar has became revolutionist who shouts against social and political corruption ?? You never made movies on these subjects before, ( Andhi was bit exceptional not fully), Why now ?

Gulzar : Mehta: my very first film Mere Apne had this political tone. The relations of the youth with the politicians of the time. Which was updated in Maachis. If you carefully look into the subjects you will find Hu Tu Tu is the updating of Aandhi. In between there was New Delhi Times and some other films also which reffered to the socio political conditions of our times. So it's not as abrupt as you feel.

Ajit Singh : Do you miss RD, Gulzar saab? I miss your partnership a lot!
sandeep : well gulzarji ..any words on Panchamda ...that come to your heart this moment ...
swastik : Gulzar saheb, Pancham ke baad Pancham ki said-reincarnation Jatin-Lalit ke saath kaam karne ka anubhav kaisa raha?
Gulzar : Ajit Singh: Swastik: RD was RD! Pancham to me and freinds. There can't be a duplicate of him. Everybody comes with ones own identity and that is more credible than being a reincarnation of some departed soul. Let RD be in peace. I miss him a lot...you can't put a vaccum into words.

swastik : I know that sir. That's why I said 'said' - but I would like to know the experience.
Ajit Singh : Thankyou Gulzar ji for sharing your thoughts about RD. I miss him very much. Your songs give life to me!!!

sandeep : gulzaarsaab, you must have developed a "special" relationship with sanjeev kumar who gave life to "mausam"
Gulzar : Sandeep: Indeed, Sanjeev was a very special freind like Pancham. Pamcham and Sanjeev were always the two anchors of my films. Both cheated me and left me alone. It was unfair of my friends.

swastik : They didn't only leave you alone sir. We are alone too without them.

pavanjha : How the tranformation of soft romantic poet (Aajkal paaon jameen par) to aggresive and hard hitting (Phir kati gardan sir katne lage hai) has taken place. In last thirty years you were never so aggresive in film songs....
Gulzar : Pavanjha: I was sarcastic perhaps in songs like Sab Kuch Theek Thak Hai in Mere Apne, then Paanch Saalon Ka Dene Hisaab Aaye Hain in Aandhi. Sarcasm didn't work so I so started hitting direct but I see it's not hard enough to make a dent.

vinay : sir, i think the one Gulzar that i like the most is the dialogue writer. Hu tu tu had some unparrellel witty pieces. Why don't u write for films other than yours these days?
Gulzar : Vinay: I do whenever they ask me to. I have written for Hrishida, Basuda, Ramesh Sippy, Romesh Sharma, Shekar Kapur,Prakash Jha and many others. Why don't you recommend me to them again?:-)
Uday : I think Vinay , same thing is equally true in Chupake Chupake or Masoom which are not directed by Gulzar Saab.

Niketan R : Coming back to Hu Tu Tu, there is so much difference between this film and your earlier political film Aandhi. In Aandhi ,the politician lady is selfless, wnats to do only public service and is of great moral character while the protagonist of Hu Tu Tu is corrupt and even has a child from her paramour. Why the major difference between the 2 characters. Is this your growing disgust at politics ?
Gulzar : Niketan R: Both the films reveal the ways of the politician. The distance of years has only made them worse. From Mere Apne to Maachis and Andhi to Hu Tu Tu.
vinay : sir maine ek baar aapse poochha tha, ek sau solah chaaNd ki raatoN ke baare meiN (during one of your Jaipur visits). us waqt aap vyast the. please bataayeN, aap kin chaar mahinoN ka zikra kar rahe haiN.
Gulzar : Vinay: It's not the number which is important, it's important that somebody kept the count of the moonlit nights of which they spent together.

Suresh : Which singer gave your lyrics the depth and feeling you really wanted?
Gulzar : Suresh: Different ones with different lyrics at different times.
swastik : Sir, what has been your experience with Jatin Lalit in Khubsoorat?
Gulzar : Swastik: Bahut Khoobsoorat:-)

vinay : sir. There's a lot of discussion about you and your work on the music newsgroup on the Net Rec.Music.Indian.Misc. The one recent discussion being about your debut song. Apparantly Mora gora rang lei le is been claimed by Shailendra's daughter as Shailendra's - the Antaras. Would you clarify please? And do u hapen to read, by any chance, the newsgroup? It is one of the best discussion forum about Indian Film Music.
Gulzar : Vinay: I only knew Shailendra, even before I came to films from Bombay Youth Choir and IPTA. Even if by chance any line had resembled his, he would have told me, he was there when my song was accepted by Sachinda and Bimalda. I have no more clarifications to give.
Niketan R : Thanks Gulzar Saab, We see that there is now an element of anger in Hu Tu Tu which we did not see much of earlier like Namkeen, Angoor(my favorite comedy of all time), Khushboo etc. As I said earlier the ending was very un -Gulzar like. My wife was shocked at the ending . She never expected such a violent act in a Gulzar movie. What was the end supposed to signify . Is this the amount of disgust with politics?
Gulzar : Niketan R: No, it was an expression of protest by the younger generation. We unfortunately have failed to give a better country to our younger generation than what we have inherited ourselves . It's a disgust with myself and the generations behind me who have not done their share to stand up against injustice. I do know there will be a turning point somewhere but I'm not sure I will be able to look into the eyes of the coming generation without guilt.

Niketan R : Today will you make a film like Angoor or Namkeen?
Gulzar : Niketan: Yes. Not to repeat the same but similar subjects if the producers agree. Namkeen for it's different relationships of four women of different age groups with one man in the house. And Angoor for a pure comedy without a melodramatic end.
mehta : I repeat my question? Sir, Please tell me about ALL TIME GREAT SANJEEV KUMAR,Tell me about how he worked?? Specially for your films Mausam & Angoor , what homework he has done to grip the character ?? How he was getting those sharp reactions and expressions ??
Gulzar : Mehta: The special quality with Sanjeev was to swallow the script, digest it and throw up:-) He played the characters with an internal intensity and not the external gestures. Look carefully in Mausam and Aandhi his get up and costume is almost the same yet how differently he plays the two characters.
Uday : Gulzarji, kya aapake partition ke zakhm abhi bhi vaise hi hai ? Kyon ki jab mai 'Dastak' sunta ya padhata hoon to zakhm abhi bhi taaje lagate hai ? Wohi baat Maachis mai Om Puri ke dialogues ke baare mai ? Aap uske baare mai kya sochate ho ?
Gulzar : Uday: I saw the entire bloodshed happening at a very early age of 10-11. I have seen the half burnt and stinking dead bodies being scraped from the road side with showels, thrown into the trucks to clear the way. Those images left me with nightmares for more than 25 years to follow. It is with much effort that I have dissolved them away from my concious thoughts. They still reappear sometimes with the newsclips with the evidence... Can I really get over it till the scene fades away from the society?
vinay : sir, u have given some more than obvious hints for your dislike of Mahatma Gandhi. The recent example being Hu Tu Tu (scene about Subhash Chandra Boseji's picture. Also Om Puri's monologues in Machis). Any particular reasons? Of course i don't agree with you (at least once in my life smile1.gif).
Gulzar : Vinay: No I have no dislike for Mahatma Gandhi. I dislike the way his followers have used him and are using him till date. Maachis was a refernce to them not to Mahatma Gandhi. Refernce to Subhash Chandra Bose is only a reminder of the religious unity of INA in Hu Tu Tu.
Suresh : In your opinion who was better - RD or SD? Why? Just curious!
Gulzar : Suresh: It's unfair to compare the two. Both were geniuses in their own generations times. Both have come down as genius gems to us. Long live their music. I do not like the remixes done on their works.

pavanjha : Some of your songs are out of reach of your fans like Gehrayee (rishte bas rishte hote hai,), Mammo (Hazaar baar chale hum). Similarly You did lots of serials for children. 'Chaddi pehan ke phool khila hai', 'Guchha hai', 'Tap tap tobi' to 'Potli baba ki' which are not available on audio. Can you do something for bringing out these scores?
Gulzar : Pavanji I'm aware of the tremendous effort you have done in collecting my works, I'm grateful. I take this oppurtunity to express my thanks. The works which you have enquired about are with different producers. So it is not possible to compile them, unless some musical company or somebody with your kind of initiative collects them and publishes them in a casstte. There are some songs of Pancham for films like Bharosa, Abhi Abhi , which never got released because the films were not completed. There are songs of Jaidevji and Vasant Desai, Laxmikant, Khayyam and some others which are lying scattered away. At another time I'll try to send you a list across and then see if I can collect the songs for you I do not promise all but atleast some of them.
anand : gulzaarsaab, who amongst your contemporaries do you have the greatest respect and admiration for...is it saahir, Shailendra, Neeraj or somebody else..please answer sir...
Gulzar : Anand: If I respect one it doesn't mean I respect the other less. Shailendra in my opinion was the greatest lyricist that happened to Hindi films in my times, though, D N Madhok was the earlier one. Shailendra knew the difference of a poem and a lyric. He brought the lyric close to the literary standard in a comman mans ballad. For example Mera Jootha Hai Japani. In the antra he sings the glory of the comman man, the antra which starts 'honge raje rajkunvar hum, hum bigade dil shahezade' Sahirsaab was a literary poet and remained so. He didn't accept the medium as much as the medium accepted him. Neeraj again in his won capacity was one great poet who came to films and left it to join politics.

Ajit Singh : Will HMV ever release 'Dil Padosi Hai' on CD?
Gulzar : Ajit Singh: I think it is available on CD.
Ajit Singh : The songs, I mean the master tapes have not been preserved by HMV. Which we know since they are making CDs made from tapes recorded from LPs. Will your songs will ever be reproduced in their original quality?

mehta : Gulzarji, What is relation between an director & an Actor as far as characterization of a movie character is concern? You dominate you actors OR your actors have free choice of act according to their perception of character & you just describe what kind of character you want?
Gulzar : Mehta: We all remain bound to the script. Nobody rises above the script including the director.

Ninad : Gulzaar saab, just one question, when you write the lyrics of a song, do you wrtie them based on the tune already coomposed or is the tune composed after you pen down the words? Or do both the processes go hand in hand?
Gulzar : Ninad: Actually both the processes work together simultaneously. With Pancham we used to keep tossing the ball into each others court till the first overhead smash. Even now working with Vishal, we toss the song the same way but quite often the ball is in my court to start the first service. Vishal being well versed with Urdu poetry is more at ease with this process.
kashif : gulzar sahib you consider your self a poet of urdu or hindi? Thanks
Gulzar : Kashif: Both are one language to me, though my script is Urdu. I write in Urdu copy it in Hindi and sing in Hindustani:-)
anand : Gulzaar ji...please ek couplet...bas ..fir hum yahaan se ravvana...please gulzaar ji hum sab ki taraf se ..a couplet about LIFE
anand : hey everybody..please write a line asking Gulzaar ji to write us a couplet..this session cant be complete without that..ok?..1..2..3..NOW..all of you please write down the request..


Gulzar : Anand/Mausam:

Har Ek Gham Nichod Ke, Har Ek Ras Jiye
Do Din Ki Zindagi Mein, Hazaron Baras Jiye


anand : :-)......:-).....THANK YOU SO MUCH GULZAARJI......BAHUT SHUKRIYA ..BADI MEHERBAANI....
anur : wah kya baat hai ,par aap ke under itna dard kyon hai
Mausam : I am flattered to be here ,this evening . And i am going to remember this for all my life . ek shair ne itna sukoon kabhi pehle nahi diya . REDIFF ,THANX A TON .
swastik : waah Gulzar sahab waah
anand : I AGREE WITH MAUSAM...THANX REDIFF FOR GIVING US THIS OPPURTUNITY TO BE ONEONONE WITH A LEGEND..

swastik : Gulzar sir, pleeeease ek bhasha se juDa sawal - is it right to keep the publicity matter and titles etc.. of Hindi films in English? and is it right for actors/actresses to speak in English in most off-screen appearances?
Gulzar : Swastik: Straightaway to confess. NO. In foreign film festivals many a times we have been questioned that why Indian and Pakistani films have English titles and the language of the film was not the same. In our own country it's not the same with Bengali and South India films, whether Tamil, Telegu, Kanada, Malayam... It's only in Hindi and Urdu films that we have this. I think it's more for the trade reasons that it has been imposed on us. Secondly English provides the all India link. For the second part of your question, it's not fair to speak English in Hindi programs and keep punching Hindi into English programs. Kyon theekh hai ki nahin?:-)

Gulzar : Last five minutes in the room.

anand : gulzaarji....hum sab ki taraf se...BAHUT BAHUT DHANYAWAAD..AAP AAYE..CHAND BAATEIN KI....WE ARE VERY GRATEFUL AND ENRICHED....AISE MAUKE BAHUT KAM NASSEB HOTE HAIN...ONCE AGAIN THANK YOU.....KHUDA AAPKO LAMBI UMAR DE..SO THAT WE MAY ALL BENEFIT FROM YOUR INSPIRATIONAL PEN
Mausam : Gulzar Saab : Tum jo keh do to Aaaj ki raat chaand doobega nahi ,Raat ko rok lo , Raat baat hain aur Zindagi Baaki to nahi pavanjha : BAS EK CHUP SI LAGI HAI. NAHIN UDAAS NAHIN.
pavanjha : Abhi na parda giraao Thehro

Darshan : Why is the flashback your favourite technique of film narration?
Gulzar : Darshan: I don't make concious effort for this, it is natural rendering or narratin or story for me. Even in my regular conversation I go back to describe past incidents as I'm doing with my friend Suparn right here. I feel that is a very natural way of narrating a story. We make it unnatural only when we iron it and straighten it out. The flashback also helps to dramatise the unity of time and place. Could I explain myself?

Koi khamosh zakhm lagti hai
Zindagi ek Nazm lagti hai


Bye, Doston, Khuda hafiz--Gulzar


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Could sumone post lyrics of "Anki chali banki chali", please


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QUOTE(bawlachintu @ May 17 2007, 07:40 AM) *

Could sumone post lyrics of "Anki chali banki chali", please


Hmmm... Baanki Chali...mmm Jhaanki chali
Panta Bhate Tatka Begun Pora....
Aanki chali baanki chali
Chowringhee mein Jhanki Chali
Panta bhate tatka begun pora


Ek gali se jhumman nikle
Ek gali se jhuniya
Beech sadak pe ho gayi saari
Bhaad mein jaaye duniya
Jhoom jhoom ke jhoomke naache Jhuniya
Nache Jhuniya bai
Sau sau phere leve jhumman
Khoob baji shehnai...
Aanki chali...

Jhumman ke ghar beti janmi
Jhuniya jaise gaal
Mooch marod ke nikle Jhumman
Ja pahunche sasural(2)
Baat Baat Pe Khansi Bole
Paani Mange Aag(?)
Pyase mar gaye Jhumman miya
Par na chhodi taap
Aanki chali...

Jeem Se Jhumman Jheem Jalebi...
Jhumman Jhunniya Jeem
Har litti(?) ki patti padke
Jhumman hue hakeem
Phool phool ke phulka phule
Pichak pichak pichkari
Nimki lave katha chuna
Mithhu Paan Supari
Aanki chali...


Aaki chali baaki chali


BC you owe me for this one...had to play the song ten times at least to catch all the words... Your comments please...

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Is it related to the character in the film? Has anyone seen the film?


In the movie Shabana (who is dumb and writes poetry to escape her reality) imagines/sings the song (phirse aiyoo) when she falls in love with Sanjeev Kumar who is really in love with the more practical Sharmila Tagore... The movie is about a truck driver who rents a room in a small village from a family of four women... the mother(Waheeda Rehman) and her three daughters (Sharmila Tagore, Shabana Azmi and Kiran Vairale).

A gem of a movie, it really has no plot, just derives its justification from the incredibly fascinating characters and the relationships between the four women and Sanjeev Kumar. The old woman, almost senile, wily about taking money to survive, the eldest just beyond the marriageable age, struggling under her responsibilities, harsh yet vulnerable, the middle one, dumb and ultra-sensitive, living in her own world, and the youngest, full of life and curious, just emerging out of her teens, dangerously veering towards the very world of "Nautanki" that her mother had left behind with such bitter memories.


Gulzar seems to have a fascination with names... or at least I am fascinated by names he chooses for his characters... The Eldest is "Nimki" (Sharmila Tagore) and middle one (Shabana) is "Mitthu" and the youngest one...as they ran out of flavours..."Chinki" . Waheeda Rehman is Jyoti(Jugni). I remember in Lekin too he has this beautiful name for his beautiful ghost... Reva... wonder what it means.


Aage... movie dekho and please comment karo...



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QUOTE(usrafian @ May 17 2007, 07:13 AM) *


Kaho Yaaro, Kaisi Rahii ??? rolleyes.gif
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Very very informative piece... USR...had not read this one before. Thank you. give me a couple of hours... will come back with some comments on the interview if no one beats me to it... biggrin.gif



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Thanks Madhavi for the background. Yes, I haven't seen Namkeen, just as I haven't seen many, many, many others. Since 1986, my movie watching rate can be put at about 2-3 a year (max!!)

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...had to play the song ten times at least to catch all the words...

You don't have to do this for most songs. There are lyrics available on sites like www.hindilyrix.com. Of course you need to correct the typos, and run the song once with the words just to check their correctness.

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post May 18 2007, 08:17 AM
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QUOTE(Mandrake @ May 18 2007, 07:52 AM) *

Thanks Madhavi for the background. Yes, I haven't seen Namkeen, just as I haven't seen many, many, many others. Since 1986, my movie watching rate can be put at about 2-3 a year (max!!)

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...had to play the song ten times at least to catch all the words...

You don't have to do this for most songs. There are lyrics available on sites like www.hindilyrix.com. Of course you need to correct the typos, and run the song once with the words just to check their correctness.



Suhas, thanks for the information on the lyrics. I tried to do a search by name of singer from the page

http://www.hindilyrix.com/singer.html

Its giving some internal error message. May be the site is down right now or the search functionality is not working.

Thanks again

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post May 18 2007, 09:23 AM
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Yes, I checked it. The site seems to be down, as none of the hyperlinks work.
Maybe you can try it later in the day.

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USRafian,

With reference to the conversation with Gulzar that you pasted, a few questions which you or s'one else might have any info on....

The date is 1999... wonder if there has been any follow up on that

1) Did Libaas ever get released?
2) The albums with RDB that he mentioned, Bharosa and Abhi Abhi... again has anything been done about them?

With regard to some of his movies that were mentioned in this conversation...
Interesting that he thought Mani Ratnam's Dil Se was not particularly well thought out... his ending in "Hu Tu Tu" is very similar, I was disappointed with it but maybe he was trying to make a different point.. hmm need to go back and see the movie again. The Nana Patekar angle was very bitter though.. I personally thought Maachis was much better thought out in terms of the violence that he depicted in it as it touches the lives of all the characters.

I always felt that violence was a very strong theme in a number of Gulzar's movies right from the beginning... Mere Apne is a brilliant movie, it is apparently a remake of a Bengali movie. Anyone has seen it ? camera.gif Someone pointed to the romantic lyrics of Ghar, as a far cry from those of Hu Tu Tu... Ghar too deals with violence of a kind...rape and its repurcussions on the life of an ordinary couple. "Kaanch Ke Khwab Hain Aakhon Mein Chub Jayenge".



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post May 19 2007, 10:44 AM
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Libaas a 1988 to be released movie was never released. Shall try and get more info on this very soon.

One movie of recent past, which I would like to highlight is Leela, featuring Vinod Khanna, Dimple Kapadia.
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