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post Feb 26 2007, 06:17 AM
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Thanks guys for the two slow versions of Zindagi Ki Yehi Reet Hai. I also have another slow version of the same song with a female voice, just wondering how many slow versions are there.



Thank you for the upload of Guru's version!

Guru's version had much more clarity in it. Somebody posted earlier that the film may have had Guru's voice in it. In the re-released version they may have replaced it with Shabbir Kumar's voice. Reminds me of Maine Pyar Kiya, with the song "mere rang mein." In the DVD, they completely edited the interludes of the song to make it sound original rather than the famous "Countdown" version.

Why they used Shabbir Kumar for the voice? My hypothesis is that they used his voice in the movie for the joke song "na maangu sona chandi, hum maange maafi didi, lo pakde hum kaan se" so they may as well use his voice in the movie.

If I was the music director and if I couldn't use the "yun" version, then I certainly would have opted for Amit Kumar of Sudesh Bhosle. Actually, I might have ended up with using Nitin Mukesh!!! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Regarding Azad's question, there are two slow versions:

1) Kavita Krishnamurthi with children chorus singing when Anil Kapoor was feeling sad that he failed and could not get food for the kids. Kavita K. was picturized on a little girl.

2) the sad version we discussed on this thread.

Speaking of Mr. India, do you think Amit Kumar will end up singing on Mr. India 2?

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QUOTE(raga_tala @ Feb 26 2007, 08:33 AM) *

QUOTE(azad @ Feb 25 2007, 05:25 PM) *

Thanks guys for the two slow versions of Zindagi Ki Yehi Reet Hai. I also have another slow version of the same song with a female voice, just wondering how many slow versions are there.



Thank you for the upload of Guru's version!

Guru's version had much more clarity in it. Somebody posted earlier that the film may have had Guru's voice in it. In the re-released version they may have replaced it with Shabbir Kumar's voice. Reminds me of Maine Pyar Kiya, with the song "mere rang mein." In the DVD, they completely edited the interludes of the song to make it sound original rather than the famous "Countdown" version.

Why they used Shabbir Kumar for the voice? My hypothesis is that they used his voice in the movie for the joke song "na maangu sona chandi, hum maange maafi didi, lo pakde hum kaan se" so they may as well use his voice in the movie.

If I was the music director and if I couldn't use the "yun" version, then I certainly would have opted for Amit Kumar of Sudesh Bhosle. Actually, I might have ended up with using Nitin Mukesh!!! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Regarding Azad's question, there are two slow versions:

1) Kavita Krishnamurthi with children chorus singing when Anil Kapoor was feeling sad that he failed and could not get food for the kids. Kavita K. was picturized on a little girl.

2) the sad version we discussed on this thread.

Speaking of Mr. India, do you think Amit Kumar will end up singing on Mr. India 2?


hey guys iam always shocked at people when they claim to know music and singers, i don,t even know hindi, but i love my indian music, please don,t be offended i might sound a little rude, but i get upset when people claim to know about music when they listen to it. i saw mr.india when i was a kid so i don,t remember the film.did not know shabbir sang this song zindagie, but i was tempted to listen, now that i did iam shocked and very happy to hear this sad version, but heres a turning point my friends, iam a 100 percent sure that zindagie is sung by my all time favorite singer mohammed aziz. if i can get a cd recording for this i will be a happy man. i want those who claim to know music to listen to the song and tell me its not aziz, iam aziz,s biggest fan in the whole world, if i don,t hear his voice each they,then there is no music for me. thanks for the song guys. take care and i don,t mean to sound rude.
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QUOTE(shazaad @ Feb 26 2007, 08:47 AM) *

QUOTE(raga_tala @ Feb 26 2007, 08:33 AM) *

QUOTE(azad @ Feb 25 2007, 05:25 PM) *

Thanks guys for the two slow versions of Zindagi Ki Yehi Reet Hai. I also have another slow version of the same song with a female voice, just wondering how many slow versions are there.



Thank you for the upload of Guru's version!

Guru's version had much more clarity in it. Somebody posted earlier that the film may have had Guru's voice in it. In the re-released version they may have replaced it with Shabbir Kumar's voice. Reminds me of Maine Pyar Kiya, with the song "mere rang mein." In the DVD, they completely edited the interludes of the song to make it sound original rather than the famous "Countdown" version.

Why they used Shabbir Kumar for the voice? My hypothesis is that they used his voice in the movie for the joke song "na maangu sona chandi, hum maange maafi didi, lo pakde hum kaan se" so they may as well use his voice in the movie.

If I was the music director and if I couldn't use the "yun" version, then I certainly would have opted for Amit Kumar of Sudesh Bhosle. Actually, I might have ended up with using Nitin Mukesh!!! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Regarding Azad's question, there are two slow versions:

1) Kavita Krishnamurthi with children chorus singing when Anil Kapoor was feeling sad that he failed and could not get food for the kids. Kavita K. was picturized on a little girl.

2) the sad version we discussed on this thread.

Speaking of Mr. India, do you think Amit Kumar will end up singing on Mr. India 2?


hey guys iam always shocked at people when they claim to know music and singers, i don,t even know hindi, but i love my indian music, please don,t be offended i might sound a little rude, but i get upset when people claim to know about music when they listen to it. i saw mr.india when i was a kid so i don,t remember the film.did not know shabbir sang this song zindagie, but i was tempted to listen, now that i did iam shocked and very happy to hear this sad version, but heres a turning point my friends, iam a 100 percent sure that zindagie is sung by my all time favorite singer mohammed aziz. if i can get a cd recording for this i will be a happy man. i want those who claim to know music to listen to the song and tell me its not aziz, iam aziz,s biggest fan in the whole world, if i don,t hear his voice each they,then there is no music for me. thanks for the song guys. take care and i don,t mean to sound rude.



btw i think in my opinion mohammed aziz version is better than kk,s maybe because iam an aziz fan just as you are a kk fan,anyways just enjoy the music u like.
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[quote name='shazaad' date='Feb 25 2007, 07:05 PM' post='344124']

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hey guys iam always shocked at people when they claim to know music and singers, i don,t even know hindi, but i love my indian music, please don,t be offended i might sound a little rude, but i get upset when people claim to know about music when they listen to it. i saw mr.india when i was a kid so i don,t remember the film.did not know shabbir sang this song zindagie, but i was tempted to listen, now that i did iam shocked and very happy to hear this sad version, but heres a turning point my friends, iam a 100 percent sure that zindagie is sung by my all time favorite singer mohammed aziz. if i can get a cd recording for this i will be a happy man. i want those who claim to know music to listen to the song and tell me its not aziz, iam aziz,s biggest fan in the whole world, if i don,t hear his voice each they,then there is no music for me. thanks for the song guys. take care and i don,t mean to sound rude.
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btw i think in my opinion mohammed aziz version is better than kk,s maybe because iam an aziz fan just as you are a kk fan,anyways just enjoy the music u like.
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While your liking and appreciation of Mohammed Aziz is highly respected, I can almost guarantee that the song was sung by Shabbir Kumar. MA had better voice control, range, and to some degree pronunciation than SK, which is why MA began to succeed. The way SK and MA sing certain words makes the difference a lot clearer. Listen to the "aa" vowel of SK in this track.

Sometimes, DVD quality things don't produce right sounds. For example, I was listening to "Aaya Aaya Toofan" on DVD and the quality and sound effects ate up most of the sound that it sounded like SK or MA was singing it. When I got the CDQ version, it sounded clearer and I could clearly tell Guru sang it.
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[quote name='raga_tala' date='Feb 26 2007, 10:32 AM' post='344135']
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hey guys iam always shocked at people when they claim to know music and singers, i don,t even know hindi, but i love my indian music, please don,t be offended i might sound a little rude, but i get upset when people claim to know about music when they listen to it. i saw mr.india when i was a kid so i don,t remember the film.did not know shabbir sang this song zindagie, but i was tempted to listen, now that i did iam shocked and very happy to hear this sad version, but heres a turning point my friends, iam a 100 percent sure that zindagie is sung by my all time favorite singer mohammed aziz. if i can get a cd recording for this i will be a happy man. i want those who claim to know music to listen to the song and tell me its not aziz, iam aziz,s biggest fan in the whole world, if i don,t hear his voice each they,then there is no music for me. thanks for the song guys. take care and i don,t mean to sound rude.
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btw i think in my opinion mohammed aziz version is better than kk,s maybe because iam an aziz fan just as you are a kk fan,anyways just enjoy the music u like.
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thanks for info but even on bad quality i could tell the singers, i don,t remember songs of toofan but if i heard i would of definitely recognized voice, on females voice sometimes it,s difficult but never i had trouble with male voices, for instance sum1 uploade a song from parvarish and saying amit kuar is the singer,shailendra singh sounds no where close to amit kumar.
While your liking and appreciation of Mohammed Aziz is highly respected, I can almost guarantee that the song was sung by Shabbir Kumar. MA had better voice control, range, and to some degree pronunciation than SK, which is why MA began to succeed. The way SK and MA sing certain words makes the difference a lot clearer. Listen to the "aa" vowel of SK in this track.

Sometimes, DVD quality things don't produce right sounds. For example, I was listening to "Aaya Aaya Toofan" on DVD and the quality and sound effects ate up most of the sound that it sounded like SK or MA was singing it. When I got the CDQ version, it sounded clearer and I could clearly tell Guru sang it.
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hey guys iam always shocked at people when they claim to know music and singers, i don,t even know hindi, but i love my indian music, please don,t be offended i might sound a little rude, but i get upset when people claim to know about music when they listen to it. i saw mr.india when i was a kid so i don,t remember the film.did not know shabbir sang this song zindagie, but i was tempted to listen, now that i did iam shocked and very happy to hear this sad version, but heres a turning point my friends, iam a 100 percent sure that zindagie is sung by my all time favorite singer mohammed aziz. if i can get a cd recording for this i will be a happy man. i want those who claim to know music to listen to the song and tell me its not aziz, iam aziz,s biggest fan in the whole world, if i don,t hear his voice each they,then there is no music for me. thanks for the song guys. take care and i don,t mean to sound rude.
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btw i think in my opinion mohammed aziz version is better than kk,s maybe because iam an aziz fan just as you are a kk fan,anyways just enjoy the music u like.
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well i took a listen again, from starting to end its all aziz,aziz is better than shabbir he did not go flat in 2 much of his songs, they are songs he sang so well, shabbir went off key and flat in a lot of songs, nevertheless i also love shabbir saab so no one take offense to my opinion.
thanks for info but even on bad quality i could tell the singers, i don,t remember songs of toofan but if i heard i would of definitely recognized voice, on females voice sometimes it,s difficult but never i had trouble with male voices, for instance sum1 uploade a song from parvarish and saying amit kuar is the singer,shailendra singh sounds no where close to amit kumar.
While your liking and appreciation of Mohammed Aziz is highly respected, I can almost guarantee that the song was sung by Shabbir Kumar. MA had better voice control, range, and to some degree pronunciation than SK, which is why MA began to succeed. The way SK and MA sing certain words makes the difference a lot clearer. Listen to the "aa" vowel of SK in this track.

Sometimes, DVD quality things don't produce right sounds. For example, I was listening to "Aaya Aaya Toofan" on DVD and the quality and sound effects ate up most of the sound that it sounded like SK or MA was singing it. When I got the CDQ version, it sounded clearer and I could clearly tell Guru sang it.
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Guru's version had much more clarity in it. Somebody posted earlier that the film may have had Guru's voice in it. In the re-released version they may have replaced it with Shabbir Kumar's voice. Reminds me of Maine Pyar Kiya, with the song "mere rang mein." In the DVD, they completely edited the interludes of the song to make it sound original rather than the famous "Countdown" version.

Why they used Shabbir Kumar for the voice? My hypothesis is that they used his voice in the movie for the joke song "na maangu sona chandi, hum maange maafi didi, lo pakde hum kaan se" so they may as well use his voice in the movie.

If I was the music director and if I couldn't use the "yun" version, then I certainly would have opted for Amit Kumar of Sudesh Bhosle. Actually, I might have ended up with using Nitin Mukesh!!! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


Well, SHabbir would have most probably been used because he had the parody that you mnetioned in the movie already....

As for Nitin Mukesh, well, if i had a free hand i would first use AMit Kumar and then perhaps a few other choices ahead of Nitin Mukesh....Manna De and Yesudas would have been my next choice after Amit because their voices have pitch closest to Guru...infact Manna De Had already once dubbed for Guru in Michael Hai to Cycle Hai....Yesudas again has similar pitch though on classical mould.....next would have been SP Balasubramaniam...he had arrived by then...and he could sing closer to Guru's voice, of course with some bit of restrain on his accentuated South Indian diction... next would have been Manhar, Nitin Mukesh and Suresh Wadkar....just my opinion...

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QUOTE(shazaad @ Feb 26 2007, 08:47 AM) *

QUOTE(raga_tala @ Feb 26 2007, 08:33 AM) *

QUOTE(azad @ Feb 25 2007, 05:25 PM) *

Thanks guys for the two slow versions of Zindagi Ki Yehi Reet Hai. I also have another slow version of the same song with a female voice, just wondering how many slow versions are there.



Thank you for the upload of Guru's version!

Guru's version had much more clarity in it. Somebody posted earlier that the film may have had Guru's voice in it. In the re-released version they may have replaced it with Shabbir Kumar's voice. Reminds me of Maine Pyar Kiya, with the song "mere rang mein." In the DVD, they completely edited the interludes of the song to make it sound original rather than the famous "Countdown" version.

Why they used Shabbir Kumar for the voice? My hypothesis is that they used his voice in the movie for the joke song "na maangu sona chandi, hum maange maafi didi, lo pakde hum kaan se" so they may as well use his voice in the movie.

If I was the music director and if I couldn't use the "yun" version, then I certainly would have opted for Amit Kumar of Sudesh Bhosle. Actually, I might have ended up with using Nitin Mukesh!!! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Regarding Azad's question, there are two slow versions:

1) Kavita Krishnamurthi with children chorus singing when Anil Kapoor was feeling sad that he failed and could not get food for the kids. Kavita K. was picturized on a little girl.

2) the sad version we discussed on this thread.

Speaking of Mr. India, do you think Amit Kumar will end up singing on Mr. India 2?


well i thank you for your opinion, i pray to almighty allah that u never become a music director, kishore kumar is not the only good singer, there are many others,i don,t know why sum of u guys hyped him up so much, others should get a chance to sing, not everyone has the same taste, furthermore aziz sang this sad version very well. i have sum kk songs that u will never dream of , i uploaded that sautela pati, there are many others that i have but i will keep it to myself. take care
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QUOTE(shazaad @ Feb 25 2007, 09:43 PM) *

QUOTE(shazaad @ Feb 26 2007, 08:47 AM) *

QUOTE(raga_tala @ Feb 26 2007, 08:33 AM) *

QUOTE(azad @ Feb 25 2007, 05:25 PM) *

Thanks guys for the two slow versions of Zindagi Ki Yehi Reet Hai. I also have another slow version of the same song with a female voice, just wondering how many slow versions are there.



Thank you for the upload of Guru's version!

Guru's version had much more clarity in it. Somebody posted earlier that the film may have had Guru's voice in it. In the re-released version they may have replaced it with Shabbir Kumar's voice. Reminds me of Maine Pyar Kiya, with the song "mere rang mein." In the DVD, they completely edited the interludes of the song to make it sound original rather than the famous "Countdown" version.

Why they used Shabbir Kumar for the voice? My hypothesis is that they used his voice in the movie for the joke song "na maangu sona chandi, hum maange maafi didi, lo pakde hum kaan se" so they may as well use his voice in the movie.

If I was the music director and if I couldn't use the "yun" version, then I certainly would have opted for Amit Kumar of Sudesh Bhosle. Actually, I might have ended up with using Nitin Mukesh!!! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Regarding Azad's question, there are two slow versions:

1) Kavita Krishnamurthi with children chorus singing when Anil Kapoor was feeling sad that he failed and could not get food for the kids. Kavita K. was picturized on a little girl.

2) the sad version we discussed on this thread.

Speaking of Mr. India, do you think Amit Kumar will end up singing on Mr. India 2?


well i thank you for your opinion, i pray to almighty allah that u never become a music director, kishore kumar is not the only good singer, there are many others,i don,t know why sum of u guys hyped him up so much, others should get a chance to sing, not everyone has the same taste, furthermore aziz sang this sad version very well. i have sum kk songs that u will never dream of , i uploaded that sautela pati, there are many others that i have but i will keep it to myself. take care


Shazaad, I please ask you to take back your prayer of me never becoming a music director. If this does come true, then all the hard work that I tried doing in learning how to play various Indian musical instruments, learning raga and tala theory, and listening to Indian music for hours and analyzing them would come to waste. Being a 2nd generation Indian, the music is what brought me back to my culture.

Secondly, there is a fine difference between hype and true praise. Each person has their likes and dislikes. Even if people in the KK forum do hype him, then what is the problem? As long as they keep their hyping under control (meaning that they don't go to other forums and bash other personalities), then that is perfectly fine. Nearly five years ago, when I saw yoodleeyoo.com, I thought it was the coolest thing in the world that Kishore Kumar fans called him Guru. It's all the matter of self-discipline.
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Thanks guys for the two slow versions of Zindagi Ki Yehi Reet Hai. I also have another slow version of the same song with a female voice, just wondering how many slow versions are there.



Thank you for the upload of Guru's version!

Guru's version had much more clarity in it. Somebody posted earlier that the film may have had Guru's voice in it. In the re-released version they may have replaced it with Shabbir Kumar's voice. Reminds me of Maine Pyar Kiya, with the song "mere rang mein." In the DVD, they completely edited the interludes of the song to make it sound original rather than the famous "Countdown" version.

Why they used Shabbir Kumar for the voice? My hypothesis is that they used his voice in the movie for the joke song "na maangu sona chandi, hum maange maafi didi, lo pakde hum kaan se" so they may as well use his voice in the movie.

If I was the music director and if I couldn't use the "yun" version, then I certainly would have opted for Amit Kumar of Sudesh Bhosle. Actually, I might have ended up with using Nitin Mukesh!!! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Regarding Azad's question, there are two slow versions:

1) Kavita Krishnamurthi with children chorus singing when Anil Kapoor was feeling sad that he failed and could not get food for the kids. Kavita K. was picturized on a little girl.

2) the sad version we discussed on this thread.

Speaking of Mr. India, do you think Amit Kumar will end up singing on Mr. India 2?


well i thank you for your opinion, i pray to almighty allah that u never become a music director, kishore kumar is not the only good singer, there are many others,i don,t know why sum of u guys hyped him up so much, others should get a chance to sing, not everyone has the same taste, furthermore aziz sang this sad version very well. i have sum kk songs that u will never dream of , i uploaded that sautela pati, there are many others that i have but i will keep it to myself. take care


Shazaad, I please ask you to take back your prayer of me never becoming a music director. If this does come true, then all the hard work that I tried doing in learning how to play various Indian musical instruments, learning raga and tala theory, and listening to Indian music for hours and analyzing them would come to waste. Being a 2nd generation Indian, the music is what brought me back to my culture.

Secondly, there is a fine difference between hype and true praise. Each person has their likes and dislikes. Even if people in the KK forum do hype him, then what is the problem? As long as they keep their hyping under control (meaning that they don't go to other forums and bash other personalities), then that is perfectly fine. Nearly five years ago, when I saw yoodleeyoo.com, I thought it was the coolest thing in the world that Kishore Kumar fans called him Guru. It's all the matter of self-discipline.

alright maybe i got a little heated, hope u succeed in your dreams of becoming talented,hope allah will let u choose the right path to success, good luck and take care no hard feelings.but i will say this in mind to the folks who are expert on the way someone sings, if u truly know music then u will make out the voices no matter if it resembles someone else or a clone, i can tell the difference between all the male voices so i consider myself knowing about music. every 1 has their time limit for singing as much as u love one singer eventually u will get tired and want something new, right now there are many good singers but where are they, majority is himesh he seems to be the man on top, i don,t personally like the new music but i wish himesh much success this is his time,i love kumar sanu and i even collect the bad songs, but where is he now, he gave great melodious tunes but now is someone else,s turn, i apprecaite variety and if i was a music director, i will give every1 a chance to sing a song that suits them. well good luck yaar.
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Thanks for all the discussions on the KK song of MR India.

Thanks for the sad version of the song.

As for why KK's voice was never used is still an enigma and its pointless to argue between us on the matter. There are many situations where a singers voice has been dropped and another singers voice used in film. It really does not prove anything regarding any singers ability or inability. Atleast that's what I think.

For instance - the Jadoo song of "Kaho Na Pyar Hai" was sung by both Udit Narayan and Adnan Sami. The Udit Narayan version was put in the film.

Same for Hum Tum song - two recorded and only one used.
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QUOTE(ravikumarofindia @ Feb 26 2007, 01:45 PM) *

Thanks for all the discussions on the KK song of MR India.

Thanks for the sad version of the song.

As for why KK's voice was never used is still an enigma and its pointless to argue between us on the matter. There are many situations where a singers voice has been dropped and another singers voice used in film. It really does not prove anything regarding any singers ability or inability. Atleast that's what I think.

For instance - the Jadoo song of "Kaho Na Pyar Hai" was sung by both Udit Narayan and Adnan Sami. The Udit Narayan version was put in the film.

Same for Hum Tum song - two recorded and only one used.



did not know this about kaho na pyar hai, iam not a fan of adnan sami but it would not matter to me if he sang it, love udit narayan and very happy that he sang this hot song, thanks for the info
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