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post Jun 2 2006, 07:45 PM
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Hi

I am starting a topic on Sahir Ludhianvi that has been posted in another forum before. It was started on his death anniversary, a nostalgia trip beginning with some of his romantic lyrics. Feel free to add on songs that make you feel mmmm....warm and woolly-headed wub.gif, angry and passionate mad.gif, sad and philosophical sleep.gif or just plain confused wacko.gif and... all those other complex emotions related to the thing called ...love??? ninja.gif



Remembering him through his romantic duets:

Situation: Dream Sequence.
To expand upon it: the impoverished hero and the heroine express their love for each other in gorgeous surroundings, which would otherwise not be possible given the hero's depressing penury. Moreover the situation is literally a dream, which is not realised as the heroine later on opts for a more stable marriage with a well established publisher.

Note the wonderful lyrics, the entire song is posed as question upon question with the female counteracting the male's romantic metaphors with her teasing counter images... Wonderfully captures the mood of the film and yet stands on its own as classic romantic chedkhani.



Hum aap ki aankhon mein is dil ko basa dein to
Hum moond ke palkon ko is dil ko saza dein to
Hum aap ki aankhon mein is dil ko basa dein to

In zulfon mein goondege hum phool mohabbat ke
Zulfon ko jhatak kar hum yeh phool gira dein to

Hum aap ko kwaabon mein la la ke satayenge
Hum aap ki aankhon se neendein hi uda de to

Hum aap ke kadmon par gir jayenge ghas khakar
Is par bhi na hum apne aanchal ki hawa dein to

Hum aap ki aankon mein is dil ko basa dein to
Hum moond ke palkon ko is dil ko saza dein to



"This isn't right, this isn't even wrong."
Wolfgang Pauli (1900-1958)

"There are no facts, only interpretations."
Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900)

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post Jun 2 2006, 07:51 PM
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Scene: Rolling on the haystack singing in pristine urdu:
To expand upon it: Sahir to the rescue, counteracting the physical jiggling and wriggling with his verbal ones: Wonderful, playful intimacy expressed by the girl " khushamad pe itne majboor kyun ho...manane ki aadat kahan pad gayee, satane ki taleem kya ho gayee....
And the same song is played out once again when the couple is separated, this time the khafa is for real...
What a song!

Male:tumhari nazar kyun Khafa ho gayee
Khata baksh do gar khata ho gayee
Female:hamara irada to kuch bhi na tha
tumhari khata khud sazaa ho gayee

Male:Sazaa hi sahi aaj kuch to mila hai
sazaa mein bhi ek pyar ka silsila hai
mohabbat ka ab kuch bhi anjaam ho
mulaqaat ki ek fiza ho gaye

Male:tumhari nazar kyun Khafa ho gayee
Khata baksh do gar khata ho gayee
Female:hamara irada to kuch bhi na tha
tumhari khata khud sazaa ho gayee

Female: Mulaqat par itne magroor kyun ho
Hamari khushamat pe itne majboor kyun ho
Manane ki aadat kahan pad gayee
Satane Ki taleem kya ho gayee

Male:Satate na hum to manate hi kaise
Tumhe hum apne nazdeek laate hi kaise
Isi din ka chahat ko armaan tha
Kubool aaj dil ki dua ho gayee

Male:tumhari nazar kyun Khafa ho gayee
Khata baksh do gar khata ho gayee



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post Jun 2 2006, 07:54 PM
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Situation: 70s, An adorable Neetu Singh and an adorable Shashi Kapoor tickling each other, on a Jeep...
Music RD Burman... using the top of form voices of Kishore and Asha... One almost does not note the lyrics. Expanding on the scene: Pause and note.... The boy asks the girl to guess what he is thinking about. The girl's imagination in the first stanza, is dreamily romantic, Socha hai tumne ki chalte hi jayen... Taaron se aage koi duniya basayen. The man has more risque thoughts...:Socha hai tumhe rasta bhulayen....

Then the second stanza, girl is no longer taking about taron se aage ki duniya but having masti, the man again is pushing the envelope....Phoolon se hoton ki laali churayen... Haye re na na croons the girl ...Mischevous, playful, risque, the lyrics are in tune with the bell-bottoms and the 70s, carried off wonderfully by the bubbly Neetu and Shashi Kapoor.



Keh doon tumhen ya chup rahoon
Dil mein mere aaj kya hai
Jo bolo to jaanu guru tumko manu
chalo yeh bhi wada hai

Female:Socha hai tumne ke chalte hi jayen
Taron se aage koi duniya basayen,
Theek hai, Aahan
To phir tum batao na...

Male:Socha hai yeh ki tumhe rasta bhulayen
Sooni jagah pe kahin cheden darayen
Hayre naa naa ye na karna

Keh doon tumhen ya chup rahoon
Dil mein mere aaj kya hai
Jo bolo to jaanun
Guru tum ko manun

Female:Socha hai tumne ki kuch gungunayen
Masti mein jhumen zara dhoomen machayen
Ab theek hai, aa huh
Male:Socha hai ye ke tumhen nazdeek layen
Phoolon se hoton ki laali churayen
Haaye na na ye na karna are nahi re nahi re....



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post Jun 2 2006, 08:12 PM
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QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ Jun 2 2006, 03:15 PM) *

Hi

I am starting a topic on Sahir Ludhianvi that has been posted in another forum before. It was started on his death anniversary, a nostalgia trip beginning with some of his romantic lyrics. Feel free to add on songs that make you feel mmmm....warm and woolly-headed wub.gif, angry and passionate mad.gif, sad and philosophical sleep.gif or just plain confused wacko.gif and... all those other complex emotions related with the thing called ...love??? ninja.gif



Remembering him through his romantic duets:

Situation: Dream Sequence.
To expand upon it: the impoverished hero and the heroine express their love for each other in gorgeous surroundings, which would otherwise not be possible given the hero's depressing penury. Moreover the situation is literally a dream, which is not realised as the heroine later on opts for a more stable marriage with a well established publisher.

Note the wonderful lyrics, the entire song is posed as question upon question with the female counteracting the male's romantic metaphors with her teasing counter images... Wonderfully captures the mood of the film and yet stands on its own as classic romantic chedkhani.



Hum aap ki aankhon mein is dil ko basa dein to
Hum moond ke palkon ko is dil ko saza dein to
Hum aap ki aankhon mein is dil ko basa dein to

In zulfon mein goondege hum phool mohabbat ke
Zulfon ko jhatak kar hum yeh phool gira dein to

Hum aap ko kwaabon mein la la ke satayenge
Hum aap ki aankhon se neendein hi uda de to

Hum aap ke kadmon par gir jayenge ghas khakar
Is par bhi na hum apne aanchal ki hawa dein to

Hum aap ki aankon mein is dil ko basa dein to
Hum moond ke palkon ko is dil ko saza dein to



Woww, what a description for such a beautifully rendered song. Sahir saab has written some of the best lyrics in the "Golden" era of 50's and 60's.
The songs/poems of "Pyaasa" are very uniquely different from each other.

Hats off to the genius of Sahir saab, Burmanda, Geetaji , Rafi saab and Hemantda.

Best Regards
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post Jun 7 2006, 02:11 AM
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Thanks Parag, for your response.

To continue with Sahir
Still talking of mohabbat...

Here are two songs in very different styles talking about the rest of the world vis a vis the lovers. The mood, the expressions, the perception of love and the world is so different and yet they make the same assertion,that when one is in love, the rest of the world can go take a jump!


The first song is from Tajmahal(1964),a historical film.

The world is ready to punish the lovers, yet it will only stoke the fires...Lata's voice rises to the grand assertion of sahir's verse... Takht kya cheez hai aur lal-o-jwahar kya hai/Ishq wale to khudai bhi luta dete hain...

The lovers have already exchanged their vows, and this precious, unique experience gives them the strength to defy the world: "aap ab shauq se de len jo sazaa deten hain"

Now shift your focus to a contemporary setting, Kabhi Kabhi(1976),two young lovers,rich,without a worry in the world, who don't have a clue about the past passions of their parents, are passionately in love and express their thoughts, in the man's voice...

Pyar is not a jurm, it is not even a "khata" in their context. Pyar kar liya to kya, pyar hai khata nahin(it is love, not a mistake). Love is more accepted."teri meri umr mein kisne ye kiya nahin" The carefree lovers breezily take love in their stride, everyone has experienced it, at least when they were young, and they are not going to let anything stop them.

Main bhi hoshmand hoon, tu bhi hoshmand hai, Us tarah jiyenge hum jis tarah pasand hai...Unki baat kyun sune jinse waasta nahin...

Rasm kya riwaaz kya, dharm kya samaj kya/Dushmano ka khauf kyun,Doston ki laaj kya...They will defy everything for it...



Tajmahal 1964

Jurm e ulfat pe hamen log sazaa dete hain
kaise nadan hain sholon ko hawa dete hain
Jurm-e-ulfat pe

Ham se deewane kahin tarq e wafa karte hain
Jaan jaaye ke rahe baat nibha dete hain

Aap daulat ke tarazu mein dilon ko tolen(2)
Hum mohabbat se mohabbat ka sila dete hain

Takht kya cheez hai aur Lalo jawahar kya hai(2)
Ishq wale to khudai bhi luta dete hain

Ham ne dil de bhi diya ehde wafa le bhi liya(2)
Aap ab shauq se de len jo sazaa dete hain

Jurm-e-ulfat pe hamen log sazaa dete hain..
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Kabhi Kabhi(1976)

Pyar kar liya to kya
Pyar hai khata nahin
Teri meri umar mein kisne yeh kiya nahin
Pyar kar liya to kya

Tere honth mere hoth sil gaye to kya hua
Dil ki tarah jism bhi mil gaye to kya hua
Isse pehle kya kabhi yeh sitam hua nahin

Main bhi hoshmand hoon tu bhi hoshmand hai
Us tarah jiyenge hum jis tarah pasand hai
Unki baat kyun sune jinse waasta nahin
Pyar kar liya to kya pyar hai khata nahin

Rasm kya riwaaz kya dharm kya samaj kya
dushmano ka khauf kyun, doston ki laaj kya
Yeh wo shauk hai ke jisse koi bhi bacha nahin
Pyar kar liya to kya



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post Jun 8 2006, 05:45 PM
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Excellent writeups Madhavi. smile1.gif


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post Jun 9 2006, 08:29 PM
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madhavi...wonderful thread. and wonderful elucidation of songs...!!! clap1.gif

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How did I miss this thread by Madhz!!!!!!!!!! bow.gif

Madhz more please more.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can I give a request so that you can write on it!!!!!!!!!!!!

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post Jun 9 2006, 09:37 PM
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Thanks BC, Divz and Nimii for your warm response. Sure, Nimii would love to oblige you. In the meantime...

The above were typical postures of love, made unique by Sahir's inimitable style, here are some examples of how he dramatically overturns common perceptions of love...

The most famous example is his nazm on the Tajmahal, the eminent metaphor of eternal love. The famous Shakeel Badayuni song, set to the music of Naushad made famous on the screen by Dilip Kumar and Vajyantimala: "Ek Shahenshah ne banwa ke haseen Tajmahal/Sari Duniya ko Mohabbat ki nishani di hai" from Leader,is overturned in this song from Ghazal, set to music by Madan Mohan. Cannot really say that the song is great(musically speaking), and the nazm(originally published in Talkhiyan), is heavily truncated for the movie, yet the fire of Sahir's pen still glitters in this song...


The man asks his beloved to choose a place other than the Tajmahal to meet him. The grandeur of the structure mocks the common man's love, which cannot be expressed so beautifully even when the emotions are pure...Read it in Sahir's own words, I have given a very rough explanation of some of the more uncommon words used in the song.


Taj tere liye ek mazhar-e-ulfat hi sahi
tujhko is wadi-e-rangeen ki aqeedat hi sahi
meri mehboob kahin aur mila kar mujhse
meri mehboob kahin aur mila kar mujhse

(mazhar e ulfat=mazhar of love, wadi-e-rangi=beautiful place, aqeedat=faith)


Anginat logon nein duniya mein mohabbat ki hai
kaun kehta hai ki sadiq na the jasbe unke
lekin unke liye tashhir ka samaan nahin
kyunki woh log bhi apni hi tarah muflis the
meri mehboob kahin aur mila kar mujhse
meri mehboob

(saadiq=pure, tashhir=advertisement,muflis=common man)


yeh chamanzaar, yeh jamuna ka kinara, yeh mahal(2)
Yeh munaqqash dar-o-dewaar, yeh mehraab yeh taaq
ek shahenshah ne daulat ka sahara lekar
hum garibon ki mohabbat ka udaya hai mazaak
meri mehboob meri mehboob,
meri mehboob kahin aur mila kar mujhse
Meri mehboob kahin aur mila kar mujhse

(chamanzaar=garden, munaqqash=decorated,taaq=arch)



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Great idea Madhavi......and very well executed !! You do have some talent for writing and expressing...even if you are re-expressing Sahir's great lyrics !!

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I am going to spend more time on this thread aaj se!!!!!!!!!!!! WONDERFUL MADHZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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QUOTE(Nimii @ Jun 9 2006, 10:05 PM) *
I am going to spend more time on this thread aaj se!!!!!!!!!!!! WONDERFUL MADHZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Lo! In donon ne bhi rhyming shuru kar diya!! biggrin.gif

Awesome Madhavi. You sure have a gift with 'em words bow.gif clap1.gif It somehow enhances the pleasure of Sahir's poetry.

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Tji mellow.gif sleep.gif We are trying to be reformed and get educated ok dry.gif , so dont pull our legs ok!

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