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zashakeel
post Oct 25 2003, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE (iqbal @ Oct 23 2003, 07:24 PM)
Hi Shakeel,
Thanks for making things clear and apologies for not going thorugh all the messages.

Main Raahee Anjaan Raahon Ka
O Yaaron Mera Naam Anjaana

OR

Main Jat Yamla Pagla Diwaanaaaaaaaaaa



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Dear Iqbal,

Its OK, MISUNDERSTANDING happens every where.

HUWE HAIN TUM PE ASHIQ HUM
BHALA MANO BURA MANO

Take care n bbye.

MY WISHES TO ALL FELLOW MEMBERS ON THE OCCASSION OF DIWALI.

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Mohammed Z.A. Shakeel



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post Oct 25 2003, 05:44 PM
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post Oct 25 2003, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE (Pradeep @ Oct 23 2003, 02:02 PM)
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The individual claims the right of free speech and estimates that there may be 10,000 of his/her type in India. Well, there are more than 10,000 donkeys in India too, who also express their right of free speech. With the right of free speech comes the greater responsibility of using that right wisely.

...but to go out and create a group with an explict objective of denigrating the great singer, even as infantile mischief, is indeed depraved.

But this outbound vitriol, against a person like Rafi, is disgusting. I feel sorry for the person who can think this way.

Perhaps Mohammed Rafi's benign and forgiving spirit will come to him (or her) and explain that this was indeed a shameful thing to do.
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Regards...Robin


Maybe in a perverted usage of the right to free speech this person can exercise his right. But, I hope we as humble Rafians will not be agitated or offended by this person's misguided anger/hate.
I hope that the group's creater/owner/sole-active-participant seeks a more balanced out look towards Mohammad Rafi as a singer and as a person.



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post Oct 25 2003, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE (Pradeep @ Oct 23 2003, 06:30 PM)
QUOTE (zashakeel @ Oct 23 2003, 12:37 PM)
membership.  Within 10 minutes of getting membership I left that group with a note to the owner to stop / scrap the group.

Shakeel, you should have stayed there for couple of days more... and gotten his postal address. We all could have paid him a visit with more Rafi songs biggrin.gif Joke.e..e.e


Pradeep,

I think u r right, but I was feeling pretty guilty to be in that group. I hope KCP or similar name, I don't remember exactly (one of the group member either MAS or SKS) will help us in getting the address, coz I saw his name there in the member's list.

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post Oct 25 2003, 09:06 PM
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The appropriate name of the founder should be "Pagal" and not anything else!
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post Oct 26 2003, 12:52 AM
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What a truly pathetic bunch of no-hopers especially as their motives are so transparent.

They are so clueless as their following statement indicates "...Pancham and Salil Chowdhury are the only two music directors who have seldmoly used Rafi in their compositions...". In actual fact, as we Rafians know, Pancham did quite a lot work with Rafi not least as Pancham was Nasir Hussain's staple MD through the late 1960s and 70s. Needless to say Rafi had always been the regular voice in Nasir's films. Indeed, it was Nasir Hussain who gave Pancham his first big budget film, namely Teesri Manzil. The Rafi & Pancham combination was the highlight of the year and the song Aaja Aaja Main Hoon Pyar Tera created an absolute sensation which in turn helped Pancham to establish himself amongst the group of elite MDs. The rest is history but the relationship which was forged between Pancham, Rafi and Nasir went on to produce some fantastic songs in films such as Carvaan, Yaadon Ki Baaraat, Hum Kisi Se Kum Nahin and Zamaane Ko Dikhana Hai amongst others. Additionally, there are many other songs, both before Mere Sapnon Ki Raani came along and after it, in which Pancham used Rafi to great effect as well.

With regards to Salil, my question would be - and no disrespect to him or his work - in how many films did he actually produce music? Furthermore, if one were to omit his contribution to HFM, would one lose a substanstial chunk of history concerning HFM? A highly talented MD he was no doubt, but not of much significance compared to others such as SJ, KA, LP, Naushad, Madan Mohan, Ravi, Roshan and SDB who all used Rafi regularly and indeed for some, in their estimation, no other singer was capable of singing their compositions. I presume these Rafiphobes are missing a whole chunk of HFM by ignoring Rafi as it would also mean closing one's mind to all the amazing compositions that were created during 1950s and 60s, music which formed the foundation for what followed thereafter. Their loss I would say.

These ghadde would've been better placed to have chosen Anil Biswas as their unrecruited mascot, as he is a MD who seldomly utilised Rafi's voice and indeed has openly said, in his opinion Rafi was not a good singer - actually his comments were more controversial, but quickly withdrawn after much of the HF industry came down on him like a ton of bricks. In their case though I doubt they've even heard of Biswas which is a likely indicator of both their age as well as their intelligence, the sum of which, I would wager, does not infringe into double figures.

The guy also makes some really crass comments regarding Yusuf Khan - adakaari ka baadshah as they say - it would normally make me laugh if it was not so indicative of his hatred of a particular minority group. This is especially as he does not seem to be able to accept the fact that members of that group can rise to the top of their professions. Two comments from the acting industry is all I will say in Yusuf's defence; firstly, Prithviraj Kapoor who after seeing a film of Yusuf's was reported to have said "Kash is ko dekh ke mera beta - Raj Kapoor - bhi kuchh seekh le". Secondly, Omar Shariff, who was one time asked who he thought was the greatest actor he had seen during a television interview. Without hesitation he said "Dilip Kumar". Yusuf is the king of subtlety, though I doubt this guy would even understand the meaning of the word let alone what it looks like when it is incorporated into acting.


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post Oct 26 2003, 07:04 PM
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Yes

I had joined the group ( as some of the people here, did ) just to find out who the hell was the founder !!!

I left a message to the group owner to change the name and talk ONLY about his/her interests, which were the music of the 70's, RDB, KK...there was no point in keeping that groupname, which disgraced the legend..


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