Ravi With Rafi Duets |
Ravi With Rafi Duets |
cinemaniac2 |
May 30 2004, 11:08 PM
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This is the first of the many Ravi/Rafi songs
this is from Gharana-1961 Ravi-Shakeel *Rajendra Kumar/Asha Parekh/Raaj Kumar. but this song is picturised on Agha and Shobha Khotte. the other duet from this film is very popular-i.e-jabse tumhe dekha hai also there is a duet bhajan-jai raghunandan jai siyaram. and of course there is rafi's classic solo- husn wale tera jawab nahin. but do u know which is the most popular song of this movie-it's a children's song dadi amma dadi amma maan jao-sung by-asha & kamal barot regards cinemaniac2 |
myawan |
May 31 2004, 04:41 AM
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thanks for this gooodie!
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cinemaniac2 |
Jun 3 2004, 09:39 PM
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this one is from -Ghunghat-1960
Ravi-Shakeel Badayuni * Pradeep Kumar,Asha Parekh,Bina Rai & Rehman song picturised on Pradeep Kumar & Asha Parekh. Ravi rarely used Lata Mangeshkar but in this movie there were 2 Lata solos, and these two songs were the only hit songs in this movie. 1-lage na mora jiya, sajana nahinn aaye 2-mori cham cham baje payaliya, aaj mile hai mohe sanwariya Rafi & Asha-Yeh zindagi ka mausam aur yeh sama suhana cinemaniac2 |
cinemaniac2 |
Jun 10 2004, 07:07 PM
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this one is from Grihasti-1963
Ravi-Shakeel * Manoj Kumar,Rajashri but this song is filmed on mehmood & shobha khote Ja Ja Re Ja Diwane Ja-Rafi & Asha |
cinemaniac2 |
Jun 20 2004, 10:37 PM
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one more and this one is beautiful.
Tu Nahi Aur Sahi--1960 Ravi-Asad Bhopali * Pradeep Kumar,Kum Kum,Nishi. |
myawan |
Jun 21 2004, 05:36 AM
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Thanks Cine!
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cinemaniac2 |
Jul 8 2004, 08:12 PM
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one more from grihasti-1963
Ravi-Shakeel Jane Teri Nazarone Kya-Rafi & Asha |
Bawra Jay |
Jul 8 2004, 09:01 PM
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A very interesting and very touching (Last Stanza) article from another saved clipping of ZEE Magazine article...
In Tune : Ravi Melodies of another day June'99, Volume I / No: 8 When and how did you take to music ? I used to sing from my childhood. Never really understood what ‘sa re ga ma’ was, never had any formal training, but I listened to old Hindi film songs and sang along. This was way back in 1935, when I was just a nine-year-old boy. The passion grew with me. My father (an avid music lover) arranged for a harmonium and a music teacher. To the teacher’s shock, I insisted that he skip the basic sa re ga ma and teach me to play the tune of Tum bin hamari kaun khabar le govardhan giridhari. A month’s practice and I was ready to perform. The audience response was incredible and I became a regular feature at satsangs and mehfils. This was in 1942. When did you seriously contemplate coming to Bombay and trying your luck? In 1945, I joined the Post & Telegraph office as an electrician at the Telephone Exchange and stayed there till 1950. Around this time I got married, and was into family life. I sang regularly at private gatherings, and was enrolled to sing on AIR as an amateur artist. To my bad luck, after Independence, the P&T department posted me to the border area of Punjab to set up a new telephone exchange. My family, especially my father, agreed to my decision to visit Bombay on a short leave of 20 days. Later, I quit my job and concentrated full time on music. Did at any time your family try to pressurise you into giving up your struggle and going back? At first, my father sent me forty to sixty rupees per month and I managed by skipping lunch and having only a late dinner. The entire day went in visiting the studios and garnering promises and more promises. Gradually, my family started worrying and my wife’s letters spoke of loneliness. I had come to Bombay in 1950 and it was already the beginning of 1952. Desperation was setting in and everyone had only one suggestion: come back home. Just then my luck changed. I got an offer to sing in a chorus with Hemant Kumar for Filmistan Studio. The song was Vande mataram from the film Anandmath. How long did your association with Hemantda last? Hemantda liked me and asked me to help him with his pronunciation of Urdu words. Thus I was with him through Shart, Samrat, Nagin, Champakali, Jagruti and Durgeshnandini of Filmistan and a few other outside films. Around this time my wife decided to come down to Bombay and stay with me against all odds. I found a godown (without electricity) in Kandivali, on a monthly rent of 30 rupees. It was a tough life. Around this time Devendra Goel’s Vachan happened. Goel had heard my compositions Chandamama door ke and Ek paise dede babu which I had written during my long walks between studios and liked them. Vachan was a hit and I came into my own. How did Hemantda react to this? After Nagin, Hemantda had signed about a dozen projects and I used to get 200 rupees per month from every production, thus I was earning 2400 rupees a month. When Vachan became a hit, Hemantda said it was time I became independent and concentrated on whatever assignments I got. I sensed the wisdom in his words and took the plunge. Were you really ready for an independent career or was it a gamble? I would call it a calculated risk. After leaving Hemantda I started visiting producers for work. Nadiadwala signed me for Mehendi and Ghar Sansar (for the song Yeh hawa yeh nadee ka kinara) and SD Narang signed me for Dilli Ka Thug (which had hits songs C.a.t cat...cat mane billi, Yeh raaten yeh mausam, Hum to mohabbat karega). Guru Dutt liked the songs of Mehendi, which was a Muslim social and offered me Chaudvin Ka Chand which turned out to be major hit. After that there was no dearth of offers. Gemini Films from Madras offered me many films including Ghunghat (Mori cham cham baje payaliya), Gharana (Husnewale tera jawab nahin, Dadi amma dadi amma maan jao), Grahasti, Aurat, Samaj Ko Badal Dalo (Amma ek roti de) and Paisa Ya Pyar. Did this improve your financial situation? In 1961, I started looking for a house of my own and when Nadiadwala heard about it, he offered to sell me a plot in Santa Cruz. I built my own house there and have been staying here since then. I have fond memories of this house because ever since I moved in, I had an uninterrupted run of success. I did the music for Bharosa (Is bhari duniya mein, Aaj ki mulaqat bas itni, Woh dil kahan se laaoon) and Khandan for Vassan Films, Do Kaliyan (Tumhari nazar kyon khafa) and Meherban for AVM, Nazrana for Venus Pictures, Gauri and Raakhi for Shivaji Ganesan. I also did two Gujarati films Gher Gher Matina Choolah and Verni Vasulat for Gemini and won a Gujarat State award for it. I was doing so many films in Madras that I was called the King of Madras. I suppose it was fate that all the films for which I did the music went on to be a hit. And with Jab chali thandi hawa, Raha gardishon mein hardum, Naseeb mein jisko jo likha tha and Lo aagayi unki yaad, all from film Do Badan, and Baar baar dekho hazaar baar dekho from film China Town becoming major hits I was on a high. By then I had completely given up my dreams of being a singer. How do you compare the styles of song picturisation then and now? Earlier, songs took the story ahead. Their picturisation was situation based, in keeping with the lyrics and mood of the song. And actors expressed a great deal with their eyes. Today’s heroes hide behind sunglasses. The camera lingers more on the exposed parts of a heroine’s body than her expressions. When a hero and heroine break into a duet, you see 20-30 dancers leaping into the frame from nowhere! Filmmakers justify such absurdity by saying that the public wants it. But I don’t agree. People see it because they don’t have a choice. Today’s biggest hits are forgotten in weeks, whereas old songs have sustained their appeal, and are popular even today. I feel a great sense of achievement when I see that young singers sing only old songs on music-based television programmes. But I am extremely saddened by the trend of remixing old songs which takes away their rich flavour. It is rather unfortunate that even old-timers are jumping on the bandwagon instead of protesting. Who among the singers of your time were you particularly in tune with? Almost all the leading singers of the time have sung my songs. But I rate Mohammed Rafi as the best. With him, I could always be sure that he would do justice to any tune, no matter how complex. He gave life to many of my songs like Sau baar janam lenge, Is bhari duniya mein koi bhi hamara na raha, Babul ki duwaayen leti jaa, Mili khakh mein mohabbat (Chaudhvin ka Chand), Choo lene do nazuk hoton se and Yeh zulf agar khulke Kaajal). Rafi was an extraordinary human being too. Amongst female singers Asha Bhosle has sung more songs for you than Lata Mangeshkar. Is there any particular reason for this? Lata has sung several significant numbers for me. Her songs Milti hai zindagi mein mohabbat in Ankhen, Woh dil kahan se laaon in Bharosa, Aye mere dil-e-nadaan in Tower House are very popular even today. But often, because of her tight schedules, I opted for Asha. She sang some outstanding numbers like Jab chali thandi hawa, Lo aagayi unki yaad in Do Badan, Aage bhi jaanena tu in Waqt, Tora man darpan kahalaye in Kaajal. Suman Kalyanpur was another good singer, who had sung popular numbers for me. As you come close to completing a silver jubilee of your association with the Hindi film industry do you have any regrets? Not really. But it does hurt sometimes that I didn’t get the kind of recognition I deserved. Maybe because I made no effort to buy publicity. Strangely, even singers who sing my songs regularly underplay my name. Years ago, I thought I would win an award for my score in Chaudvin Ka Chand, but I didn’t, though Mohammed Rafi and Shakeel Badayuni won awards for best singer and best lyricist. It happened again with Gumrah. Mahendra Kapoor was adjudged the best singer and Sahir Ludhianvi the best lyricist, but I was ignored. It happened a third time when Salma Agha (best singer) and Kamal Hasan (best lyricist) won awards for Nikaah, but the music director went unnoticed. Perhaps it was plain bad luck! Anyway, I never wanted an award that didn’t come my way legitimately. But the recognition I received from colleagues more than compensated for it Dadi Amma Dadi Amma Maan Jao- Asha & Kamal Barot - Gharana - 128 bitrate... Enjoy The way is not in the sky, the way is in the heart. --Gautama Buddha
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Jul 8 2004, 09:10 PM
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How come u missed Rafi's name out yaar? |
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Jul 8 2004, 09:17 PM
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Yaar Mere kyu ki mere pass jo song hai the one U/L us mein Rafi sahab ki awaaz kosso dorr tak nahi sunai deti hai The way is not in the sky, the way is in the heart. --Gautama Buddha
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Jul 9 2004, 12:14 AM
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Oh really? right, yes. I clearly see my mistake now (you know, just foolishly thinking that this is rafi's big slice of this little heaven). I saw this n just assumed that u were wrong abt the credits. I guess 'assume' really does make an 'ass' of 'u' n 'me'. Sorry. Never again will I question ur judgement. Incidentally, to change the subject completely. My dear chap it's interesting wot say. Surly, you must realise ur 'mistake' here also, no? (joke) YM |
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Bawra Jay |
Jul 9 2004, 08:03 PM
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Yaar Mere , its all going BUMPER.... Seedha upar jaa raha hai , didn't get you at all .... The way is not in the sky, the way is in the heart. --Gautama Buddha
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myawan |
Jul 9 2004, 08:14 PM
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very true Bawra
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cinemaniac2 |
Jul 9 2004, 08:15 PM
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i think he means u made a mistake of u'loading a non-rafi song here.
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Bawra Jay |
Jul 9 2004, 08:37 PM
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Hey posted here because it was with the context of the thread / topic....
Uff , you guys are getting even pickier than GALS...yeh karo woh na karo...idhar rakho udhar rakho....phewwwwww (Looking towards the heaven) ---> Rafi sahab aap hi bataye....aap hote tau kya aitraaz karte ki meri topic mei itna acha gane ki posting kyu ki The way is not in the sky, the way is in the heart. --Gautama Buddha
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