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[Ummer]

Wonderful uploads from 'Amar Jyoti' & 'Gumnaam'. Thank you maheshks & Ummer bhai

--Balaji

You are most welcome . One more trivia... Majority of early Pakistani movies including Classics like Gumnaam, Inteqaam, Pheray, Qatil etc were "Hindu Social" films, and most actors adopted Hindu screen names. Muslim social films started to become popular much later.

[rshakeel]

thanks Ummer

Shakeel

maheshks bhai please u/l this video again, i missed it,

thanks
Shakeel

Here you go Shakeel - Courtesy Maheshks

[rshakeel]

In this legendry song, Rafi’s part of the song Mere Sapnon ki rani Rohi Rohi is picturized on Faqeer, and Rafi imitate one Faqeer in his childhood, (he was impressed with faqeer’s voice) what a start for a legend!

I am sure Rafi was very happy that he not only sang the song with a legend (K.L.Saigal) but also that his voice is picturized on Faqeer

Shakeel

[mahesh]

mahesh bhai,
thanks a ton,
i would request for other songs of ek nazar[ which are very rare] either in audio or video format.

kuldeep kaur also had two other lovely geeta solo picturized on her-
1]-ek thi ladki[49]-chandni raat hai...unse kahna ki,
2]-baaz[53]-taare chandi afsane
regards,
mahesh

Talking of plagiary....I remember one old hit punjabi song.....saanu rab di saun tere naal pyar ho gaya ve channa sachi muchi ve channa sachi muchi.....(Can some kind soul provide the details?)....S D Barman used this tune in the following song :

BUS CHUPKE HI CHUPKE SE PYAR HO GAYA O PIYA TERA MERA

BUS AANKHON HI AANKHON MAIN IQRAAR HO GAYA O PIYA TERA MERA

SINGER GEETA ROY

MUSIC S D BARMAN

MOVIE EK NAZAR (1951)

LYRICS RAJINDER KRISHAN

SONG PICTURISED ON KULDEEP KAUR....THE OTHER ACTOR IS REHMAN

mahesh bhai,
thanks for all the rare videos.
i am desperately looking for all the songs ek nazar preferably in audio format.kindly upload them if possible.in asha forum you had promised priya ,to upload all songs of love and murder.in case you don't have all the songs ready in audio format,i can upload them for you.
thanks in advance,
mahesh

[maheshks]

Ummer Bhai...Amar Jyoti(1936) ka gaana aapke bachpan ka favourite gaana tha
Ummer Mahaashayji ki ummer kay hai
Bade bade buzurg baitthe hain yahaan par

Thanks to Urzung Saab and other brothers viz, Ummer, Pradeep, Balaji, Mahesh and Shakeel for taking part in this thread and appreciations.

Shakeel Bhai..one clarification...the song that Rafi Saab sang in Shahjehan movie was not his first song that he sang for hindi movies.

Mahesh Bhai..I will send you the other songs of the movie ek nazar(1952) in a few days.

[maheshks]

I find that 90% of the songs picturised on Shyama were sung by Geeta Roy/Dutt. Whether anyone has observed this? So Geeta Roy/Dutt was the voice for Shyama in hindi songs.

Here is one of those beautiful songs of this combination.

TAQDEER NE LOOTA MUJHE TAQDEER NE LOOTA
MANZIL PE LAA KE PYAR NE BEGANA KAR DIYA

SINGER : GEETA ROY
MOVIE : SHRIMATIJI(1952)
MUSIC : HANSRAJ BEHL?
LYRICS : HASRAT JAIPURI
SONG IS PICTURISED ON SHAYAMA AND THE HERO SEEN IN THE SONG IS NASIR KHAN

[unni]

Mahesh:

I was recently watching sequences from the 1951 "NAGINA" and thought the hero bore resemblances to Dilip Kumar (Yusuf Khan). The name of the male lead was listed as Nasir Khan. Isn't he Dilip Kumar's real-life brother who also took of role of his on-screen brother, the police officer, in "GUNGA JUMNA"?

[maheshks]

Correct Unni Bhai...his son Ayub Khan has also acted in some movies during late ninties and you can see him (son) in some TV serials now a day.

[Ummer]

Correct Unni Bhai...his son Ayub Khan has also acted in some movies during late ninties and you can see him (son) in some TV serials now a day.

Hello Unni Ji,
Nasir Khan's (Dilip Kumar's younger brother) name will always be remembered for being the hero of Pakistan's first feature film Teri Yaad (1948). He acted in one more Pak film Shahida (1949). He got involved with a woman belonging to a feudal Punjabi family. As a result of this imbroglio he had to leave Pakistan and settle in India. According to his wife Begum Para, Nasir Khan had some good films with Nutan. Two which are coming to my mind right now are Aagosh(1953) and Nagina (1951). He worked with almost all top heroines of his time from Shamim, Shyama to Nargis, Suraiya.

Dilip Kumar elder brother Ayub Sarwar got settled in Pakistan. He was a writer and scripted Aadmi, which won three Nigar Awards in 1958 including best picture Award.

Nasir Khan and Asha Posley in Pakistan's maiden production Teri Yaad (1948).

[Ummer]

Ummer Bhai...Amar Jyoti(1936) ka gaana aapke bachpan ka favourite gaana tha
Ummer Mahaashayji ki ummer kay hai
Bade bade buzurg baitthe hain yahaan par

Thanks to Urzung Saab and other brothers viz, Ummer, Pradeep, Balaji, Mahesh and Shakeel for taking part in this thread and appreciations.

Shakeel Bhai..one clarification...the song that Rafi Saab sang in Shahjehan movie was not his first song that he sang for hindi movies.

Mahesh Bhai..I will send you the other songs of the movie ek nazar(1952) in a few days.

Mahesh Ji,
lol! Actually my Mom used to play that song when I was little. It was a part of 4 cassette set with commentaries by Amin Sayani. I dont remember the exact title, but it was "50 years of Indian Talkies - 1932-1982". I used to like this song alot . When Amar Jyoti was released, not even my parents were born then . This film belongs to my GrandParents generation .

As far as my age is concerned, only Priya knows my real age on this forum

Ummer.

[urzung khan]

Correct Unni Bhai...his son Ayub Khan has also acted in some movies during late ninties and you can see him (son) in some TV serials now a day.

Hello Unni Ji,
Nasir Khan's (Dilip Kumar's younger brother) name will always be remembered for being the hero of Pakistan's first feature film Teri Yaad (1948). He acted in one more Pak film Shahida (1949). He got involved with a woman belonging to a feudal Punjabi family. As a result of this imbroglio he had to leave Pakistan and settle in India. According to his wife Begum Para, Nasir Khan had some good films with Nutan. Two which are coming to my mind right now are Aagosh(1953) and Nagina (1951). He worked with almost all top heroines of his time from Shamim, Shyama to Nargis, Suraiya.

Dilip Kumar elder brother Ayub Sarwar got settled in Pakistan. He was a writer and scripted Aadmi, which won three Nigar Awards in 1958 including best picture Award.

Nasir Khan and Asha Posley in Pakistan's maiden production Teri Yaad (1948).

Thanks for Teri Yaad's picture. By 1948 she looked more like a vamp than heroine.
The production of Shahida was started before partition. Its three songs were composed
by Master Ghulam Haider in 1947. Its production was again started in early 1948 but
could only be released after TY.
One of the reasons Nasir Khan left Pakistan was to get rid of his engagement with
Swarnlata's daughter.
Teri Yaad had five songs by Asha. I do not know if their records were issued or not.
She was a good singer. Her solo in Pagdandi was very very popular: aankh ke
paanii aankh me.n reh ban ke kisii kii nishaani.

[Ummer]

Correct Unni Bhai...his son Ayub Khan has also acted in some movies during late ninties and you can see him (son) in some TV serials now a day.

Hello Unni Ji,
Nasir Khan's (Dilip Kumar's younger brother) name will always be remembered for being the hero of Pakistan's first feature film Teri Yaad (1948). He acted in one more Pak film Shahida (1949). He got involved with a woman belonging to a feudal Punjabi family. As a result of this imbroglio he had to leave Pakistan and settle in India. According to his wife Begum Para, Nasir Khan had some good films with Nutan. Two which are coming to my mind right now are Aagosh(1953) and Nagina (1951). He worked with almost all top heroines of his time from Shamim, Shyama to Nargis, Suraiya.

Dilip Kumar elder brother Ayub Sarwar got settled in Pakistan. He was a writer and scripted Aadmi, which won three Nigar Awards in 1958 including best picture Award.

Nasir Khan and Asha Posley in Pakistan's maiden production Teri Yaad (1948).

Thanks for Teri Yaad's picture. By 1948 she looked more like a vamp than heroine.
The production of Shahida was started before partition. Its three songs were composed
by Master Ghulam Haider in 1947. Its production was again started in early 1948 but
could only be released after TY.
One of the reasons Nasir Khan left Pakistan was to get rid of his engagement with
Swarnlata's daughter.
Teri Yaad had five songs by Asha. I do not know if their records were issued or not.
She was a good singer. Her solo in Pagdandi was very very popular: aankh ke
paanii aankh me.n reh ban ke kisii kii nishaani.

and it is very very sad that the first heroine of Pakistan died in extreme poverty.

One interesting thing to note about Nasir Khan is that all C.H. Atma songs (as playback singer) were picturized on Nasir Khan in Nagina (1951) and Aasmaan (1952).

[unni]

Ummer-bhai:

Thanks for the info about Nasir Khan. So two brothers were in Pakistan while one, Yusuf Khan, was running a canteen in Poona (or "tarkaariwala" as Madhubala's father contemptuously said! ) before he entered films in Bombay.

Thanks also for the historical note, that the 1948 film 'TERI YAAD" was the first feature film produced in independent Pakistan. In British India, Lahore was Bombay's twin-city in film-making.

[divz]

the video songs uplaoded in the thead are awesome.. and the write ups by people like maheshks, urzung sab,ummer ji and others make this thread even more intresting... i really enjoy the information, stories related with songs and the actors

many thanks to you all for making this thread an interesting one keep them coming

divz

[urzung khan]

Who is going to upload the video of:

'beena madhur madhur kachhu bol'

by Sarswati Rane (Mane) from 1944 Ram Rajiya

urzung khan