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post May 19 2007, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(usrafian @ May 17 2007, 06:43 PM) *

Gulzar : Anand/Mausam:

Har Ek Gham Nichod Ke, Har Ek Ras Jiye
Do Din Ki Zindagi Mein, Hazaron Baras Jiye


waah !!! ye kisi movie ki hai ya impromptu hai ?
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Kaho Yaaro, Kaisi Rahii ??? rolleyes.gif
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bahut khoob usr saheb !!! gulzar saheb se bhent ho gayaa, hum prasanna ho gaye.
bahut bahut shukriyaa aapkaa, aisi interview aur hai to upload kijiyegaa, preferably audio/video ... bow.gif

QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ May 18 2007, 05:31 AM) *


Gulzar seems to have a fascination with names... or at least I am fascinated by names he chooses for his characters... The Eldest is "Nimki" (Sharmila Tagore) and middle one (Shabana) is "Mitthu" and the youngest one...as they ran out of flavours..."Chinki" . Waheeda Rehman is Jyoti(Jugni). I remember in Lekin too he has this beautiful name for his beautiful ghost... Reva... wonder what it means.


Aage... movie dekho and please comment karo...

naam mein kuchh to baat hai mmuk ji. i think i like mitthu wub.gif vaise nimki bhi achchhaa hai but
it's too funny. biggrin.gif lyrics ke liye dhanyawaad !!!

main movie nahi dekhi, review please ... mellow.gif

QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ May 18 2007, 09:32 PM) *

Mere Apne is a brilliant movie, it is apparently a remake of a Bengali movie. Anyone has seen it ? camera.gif

which movie ? detail please.

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Aur Jo Nahi Milte, Vohin Vaastav mein milte hai
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Ye keval Shabdo ki heraa-pheri nahi hai
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post May 19 2007, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE(NATURE @ May 19 2007, 11:58 AM) *

QUOTE(usrafian @ May 17 2007, 06:43 PM) *

Gulzar : Anand/Mausam:

Har Ek Gham Nichod Ke, Har Ek Ras Jiye
Do Din Ki Zindagi Mein, Hazaron Baras Jiye


waah !!! ye kisi movie ki hai ya impromptu hai ?


Pakka 'impromptu' hai laugh.gif

Kabhii Maang Kar Le Liye Gam Kisii Ke
Kabhii Apane Gam Kar Diye Hain Paraaye
Ye Bedard Yaaden Ye Hamdard Aansuu
Badii Duur Tak Chhodane Saath Aaye


This is also by Gulzar Sahab but not 'impromptu'.

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aisi interview aur hai to upload kijiyegaa, preferably audio/video ... bow.gif


Zaruur . biggrin.gif

ThankU Nature Ji & Madhavi Ji for your comments on Gulzar's Chat.

From begining, Sampoorn Singh 'Gulzar', has emotionally suffered alot which is clearly expressed in his poetries/songs/stories.

I wonder , which was his 1st movie, 'Kabuliwala' or 'Bandini'.

As discussed above by Parag Ji, 'Mora Gora Ang Layee Le' was Gulzar's 1st song (Bandini) under the priceless guidance of Shailendra Mahan. I rate this song as top-most of Gulzar.

Many 'Maanjhi-songs' are written by various great lyricist like Majrooh's-'Sun Mere Bandhu Re' Shailendra's-'Vahaan Koun Hai Tera' & so on but Gulzar's two 'Maanjhi Songs' are on top of ALL & will remain (I suppose)..

Ganga Aaye Kahan Se (Kabuliwala) & Janam Se Main Banjaara O Bandhu (Rahgir).

Ofcourse, rarely touched subject 'Children's song' no one can touch Gulzar !!! wub.gif

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And what about that lovely, lovely Khushboo song, 'O maajhee re, apna kinara nadiya ki dhara hai'?
Those lyrics are also awesome!!
Saahilon pe behne waale kabhi suna toh hoga nahi
kaagazon ki kashtiyon ka koi kinara hota nahi
koi kinara maajhdhaare se mile woh apna kinara hai...

What an idea!! If any river-bank can shift to come midstream, only such a bank can be mine!!

Paaniyon mein beh rahe hain kayee kinaare toote huye
raaston mein mil gayee hain sabhee sahaare chhoote huye
koi sahara maanjhdhaare se mile woh apna sahara hai...

I think it so acutely expresses the anguish of a man who's caught up in the strong currents of life's unpredictable ways. Left to himself, he doesn't seem able to find his way to solid ground, so he asks - can the ground come and meet me midstream?

Wow!

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QUOTE(usrafian @ May 19 2007, 01:12 PM) *

QUOTE(NATURE @ May 19 2007, 11:58 AM) *

QUOTE(usrafian @ May 17 2007, 06:43 PM) *

Gulzar : Anand/Mausam:

Har Ek Gham Nichod Ke, Har Ek Ras Jiye
Do Din Ki Zindagi Mein, Hazaron Baras Jiye


waah !!! ye kisi movie ki hai ya impromptu hai ?


Pakka 'impromptu' hai laugh.gif

Kabhii Maang Kar Le Liye Gam Kisii Ke
Kabhii Apane Gam Kar Diye Hain Paraaye
Ye Bedard Yaaden Ye Hamdard Aansuu
Badii Duur Tak Chhodane Saath Aaye


This is also by Gulzar Sahab but not 'impromptu'.

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aisi interview aur hai to upload kijiyegaa, preferably audio/video ... bow.gif


Zaruur . biggrin.gif

ThankU Nature Ji & Madhavi Ji for your comments on Gulzar's Chat.

From begining, Sampoorn Singh 'Gulzar', has emotionally suffered alot which is clearly expressed in his poetries/songs/stories.

I wonder , which was his 1st movie, 'Kabuliwala' or 'Bandini'.

As discussed above by Parag Ji, 'Mora Gora Ang Layee Le' was Gulzar's 1st song (Bandini) under the priceless guidance of Shailendra Mahan. I rate this song as top-most of Gulzar.

Many 'Maanjhi-songs' are written by various great lyricist like Majrooh's-'Sun Mere Bandhu Re' Shailendra's-'Vahaan Koun Hai Tera' & so on but Gulzar's two 'Maanjhi Songs' are on top of ALL & will remain (I suppose)..

Ganga Aaye Kahan Se (Kabuliwala) & Janam Se Main Banjaara O Bandhu (Rahgir).

Ofcourse, rarely touched subject 'Children's song' no one can touch Gulzar !!! wub.gif

USR


Uttam, first of all, thanks a ton for posting such a nice interview of Gulzar sahab. It did shed light on many aspects of his career.

It will be a great idea if we can have a thread on children's songs.

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QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ May 18 2007, 09:32 PM) *

Mere Apne is a brilliant movie, it is apparently a remake of a Bengali movie. Anyone has seen it ? camera.gif

which movie ? detail please.


The name of the bangla film was "Aponjon" which translated would mean 'Mere Apne'.


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QUOTE(Mandrake @ May 19 2007, 11:45 AM) *

And what about that lovely, lovely Khushboo song, 'O maajhee re, apna kinara nadiya ki dhara hai'?
Those lyrics are also awesome!!
Saahilon pe behne waale kabhi suna toh hoga nahi
kaagazon ki kashtiyon ka koi kinara hota nahi
koi kinara maajhdhaare se mile woh apna kinara hai...

What an idea!! If any river-bank can shift to come midstream, only such a bank can be mine!!

Paaniyon mein beh rahe hain kayee kinaare toote huye
raaston mein mil gayee hain sabhee sahaare chhoote huye
koi sahara maanjhdhaare se mile woh apna sahara hai...

I think it so acutely expresses the anguish of a man who's caught up in the strong currents of life's unpredictable ways. Left to himself, he doesn't seem able to find his way to solid ground, so he asks - can the ground come and meet me midstream?

Wow!


Yes what a song... Jeetendra redeemed himself in Gulzar's movies...two of the great Gulzar on-the-move songs have been picturized on him... Musafir hoon yaaron and O Maanjhi Re. The third is the one picturized on Sanjeev in Namkeen "Raah pe chalte hain" not as popular but... wub.gif



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Gulzar seems to have a fascination with names... or at least I am fascinated by names he chooses for his characters... The Eldest is "Nimki" (Sharmila Tagore) and middle one (Shabana) is "Mitthu" and the youngest one...as they ran out of flavours..."Chinki" . Waheeda Rehman is Jyoti(Jugni). I remember in Lekin too he has this beautiful name for his beautiful ghost... Reva... wonder what it means.


Aage... movie dekho and please comment karo...

naam mein kuchh to baat hai mmuk ji. i think i like mitthu wub.gif vaise nimki bhi achchhaa hai but
it's too funny. biggrin.gif lyrics ke liye dhanyawaad !!!

main movie nahi dekhi, review please ... mellow.gif


She flavors the movie with her name... smile.gif
Have not seen the movie in a long time... instead let me mention some of the scenes that stuck in my memory...

Sanjeev Kumar is uncomfortably perched on the bed and the two younger sisters are standing near the doorway just staring at him... he gets up to change the bulb that does not work, asks them to get him a stool which they obligingly do, then get him a knife(!!!) to fix the switch when he realises that the bulb is all right and finally tell him that they have not had electricity for years and then run away giggling...

Sanjeev is annoyed at the ramshackle room he has got and complains to the the guy who negotiated for him that they did not even offer him food at night and on top of it took the advance and did not bother to return him the change.

The bond between the sisters and the moments of enjoyment they share in their very restricted life is wonderfully shown in the song "Aanki Chali"...where the three of them get ready to crush the spices that they sell to the local motel... Listen to the wonderful rhythm of the song... RDB's forte...using everyday objects to produce music...they beat the spices with a long wooden pole which they push towards each other rhythmically singing that wonderful nonsense... with those teasing tougue twisters... "jhumman jhunniya..." "phool phool ke phulka" "pichak pichak pichkari"

QUOTE(NATURE @ May 19 2007, 01:28 AM) *


QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ May 18 2007, 09:32 PM) *

Mere Apne is a brilliant movie, it is apparently a remake of a Bengali movie. Anyone has seen it ? camera.gif

which movie ? detail please.


Mere Apne(1970)

Remake of Apanjan (1968) by Tapan Sinha who is a very respected name in Bengali Cinema...He has a long association with Hindi cinema too. His Kabuliwala(1956) got the Golden Berlin Bear award and was remade in hindi by Bimal Roy. He wrote the wonderful story of Bawarchi. He also directed a few films in Hindi, he redirected his orginial Sagina Mahato (1970) as Sagina(1973). Some other films that he directed were Safed Hanthi, Aadmi aur Aurat, Ek Doctor Ki Maut, Arjun Pandit.

To come back to Apanjan, the original had the magnificent Chhaya Devi - remember the grand old lady in Alaap who is Amitabh's teacher? - in the role that Meena Kumari did. Am attaching a picture of Chhaya Devi...

More about Mere Apne later...


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QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ May 18 2007, 09:32 PM) *

Mere Apne is a brilliant movie, it is apparently a remake of a Bengali movie. Anyone has seen it ? camera.gif

which movie ? detail please.


The name of the bangla film was "Aponjon" which translated would mean 'Mere Apne'.



Oops Shaibaal missed your post...have you seen it by any chance?



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Oops Shaibaal missed your post...have you seen it by any chance?


That's ok... your post was for more detailed anyway. smile.gif

To answer your question, no I haven't had the opportunity but those that have tell me it is a great movie.

There is this song - Roz akeli aaye, roz akeli jaaye, chaand katora liye bhikharan raat - from Mere Apne that I believe was never included in the final film. Salilda, well, lifted the entire tune from a Nazrul Geeti (as the songs of Kazi Nazrul Islam are referred to) - 'meghla nishi bhorey, mon je kemon korey'. The funny thing is that one of the more popular recordings of this bangla song is in the voice of Kumar Sachin Dev Burman (!) smile.gif Just an interesting trivia that I thought I would mention.

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There is this song - Roz akeli aaye, roz akeli jaaye, chaand katora liye bhikharan raat - from Mere Apne that I believe was never included in the final film. Salilda, well, lifted the entire tune from a Nazrul Geeti (as the songs of Kazi Nazrul Islam are referred to) - 'meghla nishi bhorey, mon je kemon korey'. The funny thing is that one of the more popular recordings of this bangla song is in the voice of Kumar Sachin Dev Burman (!) smile.gif Just an interesting trivia that I thought I would mention.


Shaibaal,

That song by Lata is so beautiful...how interesting that that SDB sang that Nazrul Geet... would love to hear that version... (anyone??? closedeyes.gif... and if one is that much of a purist then it could be u/d in the SDB section... biggrin.gif )




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Okay googled for the song with "nazrul" thanks to Shaibaal and came across some more interesting trivia on "Roz Akeli Aaye". The song was not used in the film as it was supposed to be sung by Meena Kumari and she was so ill that it could never be shot. Gulzar refused to have the song in the film as a background song so it was not included...

Two stanzas of the song were released but there were actually three stanzas. Apparently Gulzar released the song in one of his compilations and this one had a different stanza along with the common one. The compiled song is uploaded in the salilda.com site that was created by his ardent fan Gautam Choudhury.

Here is the compiled version of the song... (the first stanza is missing in most available copies of the song...)


Roj akeli aaye re roz akeli jaye
Chand katora liye bhikharan raat

Motiyon jaise taare aanchal mein hain saare(2)
Haye re phir kya maange bhikharan raat...
Roj akeli...

Jogan jaisi laage na soye na jaage(2)
Bani gali mein jaye bhikharan raat...
Roj akeli...

Roj lagaye phera hai koi nanha savera(2)
God mein bhardo aayi bhikharan raat...
Roj akeli...


Gulzar and raat and chand are old friends... here he gives a very definite twist to the usual romantic imagery used in hindi songs for raat and chand... Raat as a "bhikaran" with the chand as her "begging bowl"...



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how interesting that that SDB sang that Nazrul Geet... would love to hear that version... (anyone??? closedeyes.gif... and if one is that much of a purist then it could be u/d in the SDB section... biggrin.gif )


http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?show...mp;#entry311811

Just posted the song here. I have only got a 32 kbps version I am afraid but the sound is not too bad. I know Asha Bhonsle has also recorded the same song in bangla but I do not have a copy of the same. Enjoy! smile.gif

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Shaibaal,

Thank you for the prompt upload... in the past week I badgered another group for this song... and got the SDB version and have been listening to it ever since. Beautiful rendition... So now for some further demands... how about a translation of the song and some info on Nazrul geeti(your source will not be revealed... biggrin.gif )... Most of the web information on Nazrul geeti end up giving basically biographical details about Kazi Nazul Islam.

On another note... did not know it had been sung by AB too (wonder who provided the music), I was told that Manna Dey also sang a version of the same song. The "Main Albeli" track from Buzdil is also based on this song (source:Srinivas).



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Okay googled for the song with "nazrul" thanks to Shaibaal and came across some more interesting trivia on "Roz Akeli Aaye". The song was not used in the film as it was supposed to be sung by Meena Kumari and she was so ill that it could never be shot. Gulzar refused to have the song in the film as a background song so it was not included...

Two stanzas of the song were released but there were actually three stanzas. Apparently Gulzar released the song in one of his compilations and this one had a different stanza along with the common one. The compiled song is uploaded in the salilda.com site that was created by his ardent fan Gautam Choudhury.

Here is the compiled version of the song... (the first stanza is missing in most available copies of the song...)


Roj akeli aaye re roz akeli jaye
Chand katora liye bhikharan raat

Motiyon jaise taare aanchal mein hain saare(2)
Haye re phir kya maange bhikharan raat...
Roj akeli...

Jogan jaisi laage na soye na jaage(2)
Bani gali mein jaye bhikharan raat...
Roj akeli...

Roj lagaye phera hai koi nanha savera(2)
God mein bhardo aayi bhikharan raat...
Roj akeli...


Gulzar and raat and chand are old friends... here he gives a very definite twist to the usual romantic imagery used in hindi songs for raat and chand... Raat as a "bhikaran" with the chand as her "begging bowl"...

I protest for 'Roz Akeli Aaye' song.

I have seen ‘Mere Apne’ very next day, when it was released, I still remembers this movie for

-‘Roz Akeli Aaye’ song picturised on Meena Kumari but can’t remember whether the song was in background OR by Meena Kumari but the song was very much there. (perhaps, later on it may have been removed, if so then why !?!? )

-The other song ‘Koii Hota Jisko Apna Hum Apna Keh Lete Yaaro’ ,remained head-hunting for quit long period.

-Handsome young Vinod Khanna

-Young ‘khoonkhaar’ Shatru having cut mark near his lips

-Thaki-Thaki Sii Meena Kumari

- College students ‘Gang War’ (I was newbie in college hence it had made strong IMPACT in memory)

It was a emotional movie.

After seeing the movie, I remarked -‘Gulzar’ a dangerous entity.

Next his movie I have seen was ‘Masoom’. My God !!!.
After seeing this movie, I noted down in my diary(after few months, of course it took months to came out of his trauma) – Not to see his movie again.

Bhoole-Bhatke, Doston Ne ‘Mousam’ dikha di. Haaye Rabba !!!
Bhai Sahab, Kaan Pakad Ke Uthak-Baithak Ki, Teen Dafaa, Sapney Mein Bhi Gulzar Movie Nahin Dehkoonga.

And you know, I have seen Aandhi on Chhaya Geet (TV). I mean the song & for me , it was almost equal to see whole movie. The song was..

Tere Bina Zindagi Se Koii
Sikwa To Nahin…

& ‘the killer’ dialogues inserted in between


Sanjiv Kumar: Suno Arti, Ye Jo Phulon Ki Belen Nazar Aati Hain Na Ye Darasal Arabi Main Aayaten Likhii Huyi Hain. Inhe Din Ke Vaqt Dekhna Bilkul Saaf Nazar Aati Hain. Din Ke Vaqt Ye Paani Se Bharaa Rahataa Hai. Din Ke Vaqt.. Ye Jo Phuvvaare Hain.....

Suchitra Sen: Kyon Din Ki Baaten Kar Rahe Ho. Kahaan Aa Paauungi Main Din Ke Vaqt

Sanjiv Kumar: Ye Jo Chaand Hai Na Ise Raat Main Dekhnaa... Ye Raat Main Nikaltaa Hai..

Suchitra Sen: Ye To Roj Nikaltaa Hogaa

Sanjiv Kumar: Haan Lekin Kabhii Kabhii Amaavas Aa Jaati Hai. Waise To Amaavas 15 Dinon Ke Baad Aati Hai Lekin Is Baar Bahut Lambi Thhii

Suchitra Sen: Nau Baras Lambi Thhii Naa..

Sitar takes over as another awkward silence builds up in moments....

Jee Main Aata Hai
Tere Daaman Main
Sar Chhupa Ke Hum
Rote Rahen ,Rote Rahen

Bhai-Logo, Mere Jaise Aadmi Ke Liye Itna Hi Dose Kafee Hai Agar theater Main Film Dekhta to Stretcher par hi Baahar Aata.

Later on, many friends asked me to see his other light movies, like Parichay, Khoobsurat etc, but I said -NO, Uski Hansee main bhi rona chhupa hota hai hence not seen openly (chori-chori chupke-chupke dekh hi letaa hoon, bina dekhe bhi nahin rahaa jaata na. Haan, dekhta huun par instalment mein, thoda abhi toda baad mein. Eksaath digest nahin kar pataa huun) exception was 'bawarchi' biggrin.gif [One of, 'Hatimtai Ke saat sawaal' .. Ek Baar Dekha Hai Phir Dekhne Ki Tamnna Hai laugh.gif .]


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USR ji,

That was straight from the heart... aapka andaaz-e-bayan padh kar maza aa gaya.... tongue1.gif I am surprised about your info about the song being included in the movie... most of the write-ups on the song mention that it was not included. Have a dvd that definitely does not have the song, but that naturally does not prove anything, I have a dvd of Namkeen that has chopped off two songs and the ending and made it completely different!!! angry.gif

Yes, one of my first impressions of Mere Apne was that both Vinod Khanna and Shatrughan looked so young... and it is a movie about youth...

Meena Kumari, despite the annoying wig and the bad make-up was, I thought, brilliant in the movie. She is an old lonely widow who lives in the village and is suddenly remembered by a very distant nephew who takes her to the city professing that he is concerned about her loneliness but in reality is in dire need of a maidservant who will look after his son as both the husband and wife go out to work. Meena Kumari brought up on old world values goes to the city and very soon realises the equation...

I remember some scenes so vividly in the movie. The wife Sumita Sanyal is getting ready to go to work and is trying to shrug off her irritation at Meena Kumari's interference... At this point Meena Kumari is vocally showing her disapproval of short hair and pants that modern working women wear...complaining that one cannot distinguish men from women nowadays... and then suddenly the scene shifts to years ago when her husband (Deven Verma) who used to work for the Nautanki and often played female roles is dressing up for the play and is adjusting his wig and saree with professional care... and Meena Kumari bursts into giggles of fond memories... Talk about gender-benders... The scene is handled so deftly by Gulzar(I do want to see the original), picking up a very common point of conflict and manages to build empathy for the old woman who comes across as so much more broadminded even while she is annoyingly old-fashioned... Baghban despite some emotional moments when one sneaked and wiped a tear(cursing Amitabh Bachchan!!!) was so melodramatic and didactic and quite unpalatable logically...

On the other hand there are these two warring bands of unemployed youth who have nothing better to do but get involved in street fights and who are exploited by the political parties for their own agenda... Shunned and feared by the rest of the colony, they and Meena Kumari forge an unlikely bond which is not too treacly and over-the-top... Kudos to the director again. The movie builds to its tragic climax with so much inevitability... her death is so meaningless and her body being taken away by the municipal van is mourned only by the shocked group of young people who watch it helplessly...



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