Does God Exist ?, Yes, Says the Prince of Mathematicians !!! Options

[NATURE]

Got this Article recently, would like to share with you all. If u have anything in your
Mind about all these, please come forward. I could be a good listener !!!
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�€ more fundamental than e

Gauss's proof of God's existence was e^(i*�€) + 1 = 0. Since the five most important numbers are bound by
such beautiful identity, argued Gauss, therefore God must exists. π is arguably the most important constant
of geometry and e of complex algebra. Therefore to Gauss, a true mathematician, such an equation provided
infallible proof of the Almighty's existence (Douglas Adams has since then offered alternate explanations
though). So far so good, but problems start to pour in if we start thinking from a physics point of view.

The number e has no significance if we look from a physics point of view. How on earth can I dare to speak
such absurdities? After all, does e not occur in every single rate law and in every single perturbation
(oscillation) equation? Well, it does, but only as long as you choose to be the ostrich with its head buried
neck deep in sand. Each of those phenomena which involve e as their essential constant are described by
linear equations and linearity is at best a myth. The only reason why we have such abundance of linear
equations and consequently of e in physics is that the researchers of the past century preferred to be
ostriches.

All natural phenomena are hopelessly nonlinear. Reasons for this omnipresent nonlinearity are many. The
world that we live in is three dimensional. This makes it possible for objects to trace such paths the
description of which will necessarily bring in nonlinearities (anything which does not move on a straight line
in some coordinate system moves on a curve whose locus is described by a nonlinear equation).
Kinematically speaking a one-dimensional world would then be linear. The second reason for nonlinear
nature of nature is the fact that most fundamental interactions follow the inverse square law. This means
that the fundamental forces of nature vary nonlinearly with space. Since all inter-particle interaction can
ultimately be shown to be a manifestation of one of these forces (gravitational/electromagnetic/nuclear)
therefore these interactions have to be nonlinear in nature.

As contrast to e, π is free from all such aberrations because its roots are in pure geometry, something much
more profound and robust than equations of physics. A physicist may propose a new law of gravity and we
might have to bow to his superior insight or such a thing might never happen. The point is that we can't
prove conclusively that what Newton said was (or is) the absolute truth. Compared to this, a proof of the
fact that the perimeter of all circles is bound to their radii by π can be found in any elementary textbook of
plain geometry. This proof was, is, and will remain. An aberration to it is not possible under any
circumstance. In a space of any dimension there will always be a generalization of a sphere and hence the
importance of π in describing isotropic phenomena will remain unquestioned. Ironically, a one dimensional
space has no circle and hence no π and it is only space in which e has any physical relevance !!!
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This post has been edited by NATURE: Feb 2 2006, 11:55 AM

[Mandrake]

God!! Whatever is this article about?

Just a couple of thoughts: whatever happened to the (Never)humble 'i'? No discussion on its merits/demerits?
n and e are variables or constants depending on which discipline they are used in.
n can be used as generally as ' 'n' number of things' or as specifically as the impossible-to-miss Actual Neutral Axis in any structural component in flexure.
e can be used as eccentricity which is variable, or the Young's Modulus of Elasticity in it's capital state (where steel has a value of 2.1 x 10^6 kg/sq.cm.).

Also, the area of a circle based on its diameter and 'pi' is only valid as long as the circle is drawn on a flat surface. Draw that circle on a sphere and all such certainties go for a toss

What say you - Nature?

[divz]

Hey Ishwar... ye kya hia............

dono pagal ho gayehain...

[shivani]

Just a couple of thoughts: whatever happened to the (Never)humble 'i'? No discussion on its merits/demerits?

you also have a problem with that?

[Mandrake]

Shivani, ek main hoon jo aapse narm andaaz mein pesh aa raha hoon - coz I want to make friends with intelligent people... aur ek aap hain, jo meri har baat mein khot nikaal rahi ho...

[shivani]

Shivani, ek main hoon jo aapse narm andaaz mein pesh aa raha hoon - coz I want to make friends with intelligent people... aur ek aap hain, jo meri har baat mein khot nikaal rahi ho...

sigh!

1. I am not intelligent.. just pasable.
2. Maine koi khot nahi nikala on the contrary I have been complimenting you.
3. My comment meant was a Q asking you too feel as if God is the biggest egoist (or projected so ). Should he be the humblest one around

(and I understand that by making me explain you were just teasing me.. )
sigh!

[Mandrake]

Thanx Shivani for seeing through the mist

God confuses me no end... a fellow that's never been seen... a fellow who threatens to get angry if we don't go by his ways - and yet is supposed to be ultra-kind (heck, my dad was kinder than god)... is one in number for all, except to the Indians who have 33 crores to choose from (was India always overpopulated in different ways?)

The rationals who believe him in measured quantities do well in life... the total believers whose faith borders on the blind get left behind.... He says he'll help those who help themselves (then why is he required?)... ALL mythologies tell stories of the utterly shameless behaviours of MOST gods including our king of gods Indra of the Greek king of gods Zeus, and still we worship them.....

Gaaawd!

[visuja]

Sigh.. log linearity se itne jalte kyun hain !!!

Local scales mein linaerise karo and yenjaaay !! kuchh gadbad hua to locality badlo aur phir se linarise karo !!!

Jeevan bhar yahio to karte hain .... small steps at a time !

1. pehle 2 saal ghar mein udham machaaye, roye, tantrums et al.
2. phir 3 saal KG mein tp kiya...
3. phir 4-5 saal primary school mein bagal ki ladki se dosti ki..
4. phir 5-6 saal bagal ke girl's school par line maarey..
5. agar 10th pass hue to junior college mein ladki pataayi....
6. Nahin pati..to 12th ke baad undergraduate days mein sheher bhar ke colleges ke festivals mein hissa liye.... taaki sabke fashion shows dekh sakein .... both formal and informal !
7. Phir pardes gaye / naukri lagi..... to gharwaale ladki dhoondhna shuru karte hain....
8. Phir...... .... abhi is domain par pahuncha nahin hoon..to main kya kahoon..... meri singularity ki domain par atka hua hoon....

Ab itnii saari ladkiyon ko ek saath deal karte..to us non linearity ka koi andaaza hai kisiiko !!
Wunly one gal at a time... usko line pe laate laate khud ka location (thikaana) bhool jaate hain...aur phir linearise karna padta hai !

Aage ke linearised experiences humaare yahaan ke anubhavit log bataayenge !

[shivani]

I can completely understand your feelings.
I am told often ( mom in law) that it is not God himself but his disciples who describe him in that fashion. The God himself is humble and kind and generous.
But.. what kind of generosity is this.. praise me and salvation is yours and the faith has to be complete and unquestioning.
Am also told ( or so I tell them when they are trying to "convert" me) I will understand and believe in that entity when he wishes it... or whenever time comes.
Maybe that is true.. maybe not..

PS: What is Visu talking about? completely lost there.

[visuja]

oops ! yahaan kahaan beech mein apna munh khol diya maine !

God, if thou exist.....help me to save myself !!!!
If thou dont exist, I'll help myself by

[Mandrake]

Can one HONESTLY say that god is actually watching us every second, keeping tabs, evaluating our actions? Doesn't he have better thinds to do?

Where are you Catch? Need your inputs

I think, he set up a system and has become busy elsewhere. We are merely products...

[Mandrake]

Visu helped himself - meaning he had divine help

[shivani]

nahi re visuja.. aap thehriye.. I think I spammed again.. and should keep away

[Mandrake]

Visu, you've succeeded in sowing giant trees of self-doubt in Shivani's mind.

She reminds me of that little Russian girl...

[shivani]

Where are you Catch? Need your inputs

he is God's record keeper ?? thats why he has so much info !!
mmmm

Visu, you've succeeded in sowing giant trees of self-doubt in Shivani's mind.

She reminds me of that little Russian girl... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink2.gif)

Someone's trying to lure me back.
beware.. I might come back with lots of Qs.