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attashah15
post May 24 2005, 03:49 AM
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this is to ask you poeple whether he is the same as he was in 1990?
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post May 24 2005, 03:54 AM
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this is to ask you poeple whether he is the same as he was in 1990?
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i think he has lost his voice quality
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i think he has lvvost his voice quality
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post May 24 2005, 12:52 PM
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allow me to disagree

often we do get the feeling that his voice is not the same as it was in the 90's, but this illusion is shattered when you listen to a few of his recent songs

1.mere jeewan saathi: he sings with the power and intensity that he sang 'ashiqui ' with

2.koi mere dil mein hai: his voice still has the same softness ,surround sound and gentle expression like 'sochenge tumhein pyaar'

3.jaane kahaan leke jaaye zindagi (dreams): he can still pull off tough solo's and make them sound like evergreen classics, somewhat like 'kuch na kaho'

i feel that it is music and music directors in general who have lost touch, the popularity of the likes of ARR and SEL, have changed (if not harmed) melody, and KS doesn't seem to fit well into un-emotional and shallow compositions, which makes his voice sound less magical

if you listen to all his songs, you will realise that the magic is still there

thanks for posting the topic and raising the question thumbs-up.gif

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post May 24 2005, 02:31 PM
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His voice and pronounciation, both have improved since 90s. Hope it goes strnger by the hour.

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post May 24 2005, 04:09 PM
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Any new songs sung recently by him??

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Any new songs sung recently by him??

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these are the three songs i mentioned in my previous post on www.raaga.com (click on link to go to the movie and select song )

tumko dulhan banayenge-mere jeewan saathi
http://www.raaga.com/channels/hindi/movie/h000823/

koi mere dil mein hai
http://www.raaga.com/channels/hindi/movie/h000780/

jaane kahaan-dreams
jaane kahaan

do post your reviews and comments rolleyes.gif

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His voice and pronounciation, both have improved since 90s. Hope it goes strnger by the hour.


thanks pradeep

i am curious regarding what makes you percieve that? most people percieve the contrary (i believe neither)....i think his voice is the same, he just has an immense variation in singing style

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I do think that KS voice has changed, but i feel that it is his own fault. He can still comeback into form all he needs is to practise. I feel that he has lost the control and and depth he used to have. He is still a very good singer no doubt and at one time was the undisputed king. Even his rival Udit conceeded that KS was a better singer than him but look at the position now, Udit is very much ahead of KS. It is quite sad for me as a KS fan to write this but it is my honest feeling. His songs in 'Zindagi Ek Juaa' are a force to be reckoned with. His vocal quality in that album was unparralleled and even to this day i get goosebumps when i listen to his versions of 'dil to dil hai', 'yeh zindagi hai ek juaa', 'kabhi kuch khoya' but sadly at this time i doubt his ability to sing like that ever again.

Age is a big factor when talking about voice quality and it could simply be that time has taken its toll on him e.g. Lata's voice is a prime example of what time can do, eve rafi and kishore endured changes to their vocals over time. And considering the amount of songs he has sung 9000+ its no surprise that his voice has changed. Even in the examples mentioned above he is lacking that 'x' factor in his voice which was so evident in albums like Aashiqui, Saajan, Dil hai ke maanta nahin, Zindagi Ek Juaa, and many more.

Many ppl criticise Sanu for having a nasal style but i dont have a problem with that. I feel his nasal style brings more emotions to a song and he used to use that style earlier on in his career so it is not a new thing. Problem is that nowadays it seems that every one of songs has a prominent nasal touch to it whereas in the 90s he used this effect sparingly (notice zindagi ek juaa, his vocals are comlpetely free of this effect) and only when the song or situation demanded it. But now, even in MJS, although his voice is bass heavy and has good projection, there is a defiante nasal edge. I'm not having a go at KS but if he is still as versatile as he used to be then how come he is lacking in control and displays a constant nasal touch.

Maybe its lack of practise but his quality has deteriorated and i can only hope and pray that he comes back to form and it is sad to see a singer of his stature be relegated to the sidelines by other 'ordinary' singers.
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HE IS BEST AS EVER

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QUOTE(attashah15 @ May 24 2005, 03:49 AM) *

this is to ask you poeple whether he is the same as he was in 1990?


hiya,

im a proper genuine music buff & my answer to ur quetion would be a very strong no-

his not the same kumar sanu of 1990 & yes his definitely lost his voice quality.

his pronounciation was never there in the first place & as for versatility he often struggled even in his peak

days. apart from low scale romantic numbers he always seemed uncomfortable.

kumar sanu has lost his audience because the audience of today have moved on to singers with more range

& versatility eg:

udit narayan, sonu nigam, k.k., kunal gunjawala, shaan etc etc.

kumar sanu to me has always been a weaker, less versatile singer than say an amit kumar whos simply

incredible & completely versatile at any scale!

every kumar sanu track was composed with him & his scale in mind.

unfortunatel kumar sanu has fallen short & his novality has certainly worn off without doubt.

his had his phase.

p.s.

lets not forget had the great kishore kumar not sadly died in october 1987.

there wouldnt have been a kumar sanu in the first place!!!


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post Oct 20 2006, 03:05 PM
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well, from a singer point of view i can be very sure that sanu bhai's voice didnt change at all...singers with bad habits could loose their voice quality by drinking too much alcohol or smoking too much, as far as i am concerned sanu doesnt drink alcohol, i have never seen him smoking a cigaret or having any big bad habit....anyways its not true that when you get old your voice will go bad, perhapes when you grow older , your voice shoud become more stronger and more surreela and more bigger than b4, listen to kishore's "hume aur jeene ki chaahat na hoti" and also listen to songs when guru was 20 year old or so, a big different.....yes its true when you get too old like lata ji then you will loose your voice quality, sanu bhai is not that old yet, now if you compare those songs that were composed in 1990s and now , you will see a big different between the 2, songs that are composed today has a maximum life of 3 or the most 6 months , but songs that were composed and arranged around 90s or b4 90s are always "ever green" they always sound wonderfull...tell me how often you can listen to songs that were composed lately? your ears will get tired of them after hearing them more than 3 times......so its not sanu bhai's fault, i truly believe its the kind of songs that they compose and arrange today for selling perpuses or market demands ( bad) songs that are composed now days has no meaning no feeling nothing ( sad) perhapes its all the videos, special effects in videos or bodies that makes is sell....
i truly admire KS... try to sing a simple song of guru, record it and then listen to your own voice no matter how good you are , but still you will find yourself not good enough, you have to a be very very good singer to sing guru's songs to an accepable level....listen to songs like "hume tumse piar kitna" or " yaadon ki baarat" or "rat kali ek khaab" by KS , then if you have good ears you'll know what i am talking about !
KS lost control, by shwoing alots of attitude to music directors and people around him......
last but not least: i believe KS has an amazing vocal range, listen to the song " mohabat ho na jaaye" from the movie "qusoor" grab an harmonium and check where the song starts from (very low pitch) when he says "dekha jo tumko....." and check when he sings the antra "muhabat ho na jaye deewaana kho na jaaye" very very high pitch, if you dont call this amazing range, then i have no idea what an amazing vocal range is ??

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QUOTE(attashah15 @ May 24 2005, 03:49 AM) *

this is to ask you poeple whether he is the same as he was in 1990?



hiya mate,

kumar sanu just has something missing.

id prefer amit kumar any day because...

his been around since 1964 & still sounds too good.

sadly- kumar sanu is simply just not versatile enough to compete.

sorry to be too honest.

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QUOTE(shabbirkumar786 @ Oct 15 2006, 07:43 PM) *

QUOTE(attashah15 @ May 24 2005, 03:49 AM) *

this is to ask you poeple whether he is the same as he was in 1990?


hiya,

im a proper genuine music buff & my answer to ur quetion would be a very strong no-

his not the same kumar sanu of 1990 & yes his definitely lost his voice quality.

his pronounciation was never there in the first place & as for versatility he often struggled even in his peak

days. apart from low scale romantic numbers he always seemed uncomfortable.


kumar sanu has lost his audience because the audience of today have moved on to singers with more range

& versatility
eg:

udit narayan, sonu nigam, k.k., kunal gunjawala, shaan etc etc.

kumar sanu to me has always been a weaker, less versatile singer than say an amit kumar whos simply

incredible & completely versatile at any scale!

every kumar sanu track was composed with him & his scale in mind.

unfortunatel kumar sanu has fallen short & his novality has certainly worn off without doubt.

his had his phase.

p.s.

lets not forget had the great kishore kumar not sadly died in october 1987.

there wouldnt have been a kumar sanu in the first place!!!


So, you are saying that KS is just a 'clone' of Kishore da, nothing more.
Bash, you're making a lot of KS fans very unhappy, don't you think? closedeyes.gif

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if by speaking the truth i upset people then im sorry but the truth will always be the truth!

u just cant ignore facts noorie- can u?


i do like a lot of kumar sanu songs especially the ones where he doesnt copy kishoreda.


kumar sanu is a kishore clone just like sonu nigam is a rafi clone!

the only difference is that sonu nigam is much more talented & versatile!

if kumar sanu was that good he'd be singing today wudnt he?


i once spoke to him in birmingham, england u.k. & he told me that he cud have sang 'JEEVAN SE BHARI

TERI ANNKHEIN from safar' better than kishoreda. (what cheek & arrogance, mind u that was 1996)


still i ll give him credit for all his done!



take care.

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