Magic Of Gulshan Bawra |
Magic Of Gulshan Bawra |
simplefable |
Mar 1 2008, 05:02 PM
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Alok..thanks for this gem of a song..I had a screechy version earlier..
OOpss...on hearing this, i think i have the same one. Can any one Upload a better version? Tried to edit with PolderbitS but am not satisfied with the result.. Thanks.. After silence that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music.
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bawlachintu |
Mar 16 2008, 07:41 PM
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Alok..thanks for this gem of a song..I had a screechy version earlier.. OOpss...on hearing this, i think i have the same one. Can any one Upload a better version? Tried to edit with PolderbitS but am not satisfied with the result.. Thanks.. I am satisfied with whatever I have. In case u want a cleaner version, make a request in Rafi forum. You will not get any response for the requests made in my thread. You know why Are mujhe meri request pe nahin milte hain, tumhe kahan se milenge Make an id of a gal and start requesting, fir dekho ek ki jagah 2 2 upload honge Here is the best singer of universe "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." -George Bernard Shaw ." |
mmuk2004 |
Mar 17 2008, 12:02 AM
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Arre ye lo, BC, aap kyun khafa hote ho...
I too had the same version as SF so did not upload. Have been intending to write on GB for a long time. A very strange career, in his long career he has written a mere 240 songs. He was closely associated with RDB, hence seen as part of the "modern" gang, hence not much is thought of his lyrics . He writes incredibly intimate, passionate lyrics, even in some of the fast paced RDB tracks which do not ostensibly seem to require them, but benefit tremendously from them. And one tends to forget that he has been writing for a long time, here is a favorite song that was a very early association of Kalyanji-Anandji and Gulshan Bawra, the beautiful Lata Hemant duet from Satta Bazaar: Satta Bazaar-1959 Tumhein Yaad Hoga, Kabhi Hum Mile The Mohabbat ki Raahon Mein Mil Ke Chale The... Bhula do Mohabbat Mein Hum Tum Mile The Sapna Hi Samjho Ke Mil Ke Chale The Dooba Hun Gham Ki Gehrayiyon Mein Sahara Hai Yaadon Ka Tanhaiyon Mein(2) Bhula do mohabbat... Kahin aur dil ki duniya basa lo kasam hai tumhen wo kasam tod daalo(2) Tumhein yaad hoga... Nayee dil ki duniya basa na sakunga Jo bhoole ho tum wo bhula na sakunga(2) Bhula do... Agar zingadi ho apne hi bas mein Tumhari kasam hum na bhulen wo kasmen(2) Tumhein yaad hoga... KA-Satta Bazaar(1959)-Tumhe Yaad Hoga(Hemant_Lata_GBawra).mp3 128/4:43 "This isn't right, this isn't even wrong." Wolfgang Pauli (1900-1958) "There are no facts, only interpretations." Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900) |
parag_sankla |
Mar 17 2008, 12:19 AM
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Make an id of a gal and start requesting, fir dekho ek ki jagah 2 2 upload honge Is that true BC ji ?? LOL... Please visit www.geetadutt.com
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mmuk2004 |
Mar 17 2008, 02:48 AM
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That was G Bawra's first hit song. Gulshan Bawra had to struggle through the sixties to get himself to be taken seriously, till the Upkaar break that he got, once again under Kalyanji Anandji's baton. But this time he is being passionate about his country....here is one of the most popular patriotic songs promoting the kisan as the hero, echoing the jai jawan jai kisan sentiments popularized by Shashtri in 1965 and very adroitly exploited by our very own Bharat Kumar
Upkaar(1967) Mere Desh Ki Dharti Sona Ugle Ugle Heere Moti mere desh ki dharti... Bailon ke gale mein jab ghungroo Jeevan ka raag sunate hain Gham koson door ho jata hai Khushiyon ke kawal muskate hain Sunke jahat ki awaazein Yun lage kahin shehnai baje Aate hi mast baharon ke Dulhan ki tarah har khet saje Jab chalte hai is dharti pe hal Mamta angdayiyan leti hain Kyun na pooje is mati ko Jo jeevan ka sukh deti hai Is dharti pe jisne janam liya(2) Usne hi paya pyar tera Yahan apna paraya koi nahin Hai sab pe Maa upkaar tera Mere desh ki dharti... Ye bagh hai Gautam Nanak ka Khilte aman ke phool yahan Gandhi Subash Tagore Tilak Aise hain chaman ke phool yahan Rang hara Hari Singh Nalve se Rang lal hai Lal Bahadur se Rang bana basanti Baghat Singh Rang aman Kabir Jawahar se... "This isn't right, this isn't even wrong." Wolfgang Pauli (1900-1958) "There are no facts, only interpretations." Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900) |
mmuk2004 |
Mar 17 2008, 03:25 AM
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Here are some excerpts from an interview where Bawra recalls those early days of struggle:
"Dharmendra, Manoj Kumar, Prakash Mehra, Satyen Chowdhary and I were co-strugglers. We would visit producers' offices and in the night hit out for the country liquor bar in Yari Road, miss the last bus and then walk back all the way," he recalls bemusedly. Dharmendra would wait for his money- order from home and the day he received it, "would guzzle 20 glasses of sweet-lime juice at Andheri station." And here's his comment on the "Desh Ki Dharti" song: "As the goods clerk, I would marvel at the sacks and sacks of golden wheat that came in from Punjab, inspired by the bounty of the land I wrote an ode to it - 'Mere desh ki dharti sona ugle ugle heere moti' then. Years later when Manoj had become a hero and I recited these lines to him, he just leapt for joy and said he would use them in his film Upkaar," Bawra relates. http://www.indiafm.com/features/2007/07/09/2839/index.html "This isn't right, this isn't even wrong." Wolfgang Pauli (1900-1958) "There are no facts, only interpretations." Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900) |
parag_sankla |
Mar 17 2008, 04:55 AM
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Arre ye lo, BC, aap kyun khafa hote ho... I too had the same version as SF so did not upload. Have been intending to write on GB for a long time. A very strange career, in his long career he has written a mere 240 songs. He was closely associated with RDB, hence seen as part of the "modern" gang, hence not much is thought of his lyrics . He writes incredibly intimate, passionate lyrics, even in some of the fast paced RDB tracks which do not ostensibly seem to require them, but benefit tremendously from them. And one tends to forget that he has been writing for a long time, here is a favorite song that was a very early association of Kalyanji-Anandji and Gulshan Bawra, the beautiful Lata Hemant duet from Satta Bazaar: Satta Bazaar-1959 Tumhein Yaad Hoga, Kabhi Hum Mile The Mohabbat ki Raahon Mein Mil Ke Chale The... Bhula do Mohabbat Mein Hum Tum Mile The Sapna Hi Samjho Ke Mil Ke Chale The Dooba Hun Gham Ki Gehrayiyon Mein Sahara Hai Yaadon Ka Tanhaiyon Mein(2) Bhula do mohabbat... Kahin aur dil ki duniya basa lo kasam hai tumhen wo kasam tod daalo(2) Tumhein yaad hoga... Nayee dil ki duniya basa na sakunga Jo bhoole ho tum wo bhula na sakunga(2) Bhula do... Agar zingadi ho apne hi bas mein Tumhari kasam hum na bhulen wo kasmen(2) Tumhein yaad hoga... KA-Satta Bazaar(1959)-Tumhe Yaad Hoga(Hemant_Lata_GBawra).mp3 128/4:43 Madhavi, since you have give some details on Gulshan Bawra, would you happen to know what is the first song he penned for HFM ? I believe some time in late fifties... Thanks Parag Please visit www.geetadutt.com
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mmuk2004 |
Mar 17 2008, 05:49 AM
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Madhavi, since you have give some details on Gulshan Bawra, would you happen to know what is the first song he penned for HFM ? I believe some time in late fifties... Thanks Parag Parag, According to the write-up on GB in hindilyrics.com ( http://www.hindilyrix.com/lyricists/lyrici...shan-bawra.html ), Kalyanji Virji (then composing as a single composer) gave him his first break in Chandrasena(1959). The song was "Main Kya Janu Kahan Lage Ye Sawan Matwala Re" that was sung by Lata Mangeshkar. "This isn't right, this isn't even wrong." Wolfgang Pauli (1900-1958) "There are no facts, only interpretations." Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900) |
parag_sankla |
Mar 17 2008, 07:23 AM
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Madhavi, since you have give some details on Gulshan Bawra, would you happen to know what is the first song he penned for HFM ? I believe some time in late fifties... Thanks Parag Parag, According to the write-up on GB in hindilyrics.com ( http://www.hindilyrix.com/lyricists/lyrici...shan-bawra.html ), Kalyanji Virji (then composing as a single composer) gave him his first break in Chandrasena(1959). The song was "Main Kya Janu Kahan Lage Ye Sawan Matwala Re" that was sung by Lata Mangeshkar. Hi Madhavi Thanks for the link and the information. Cheers Parag Please visit www.geetadutt.com
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bawlachintu |
Mar 17 2008, 10:06 PM
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Make an id of a gal and start requesting, fir dekho ek ki jagah 2 2 upload honge Is that true BC ji ?? LOL... Sanch ko anch kya. Try maar ke dekh lo Here is the best singer of universe "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." -George Bernard Shaw ." |
bawlachintu |
Mar 17 2008, 10:09 PM
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Parag, According to the write-up on GB in hindilyrics.com ( http://www.hindilyrix.com/lyricists/lyrici...shan-bawra.html ), Kalyanji Virji (then composing as a single composer) gave him his first break in Chandrasena(1959). The song was "Main Kya Janu Kahan Lage Ye Sawan Matwala Re" that was sung by Lata Mangeshkar. Film doob gayi isliye Gulshan Bawra ko agla mauka jaldi nahin mila. Here is the best singer of universe "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." -George Bernard Shaw ." |
suhana_safar |
Mar 18 2008, 08:39 AM
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I have had the pleasure of meeting GB.
Gulshan Bawra - whose name is actually Gulsham Kumar Mehra is amonst the unsung lyricts of HFM but that fact that he has penned about 250 songs songs in a career spanning for more than 4 decades is a testimony of the quality factor of his songs. It is hard to find one meaningless song penned by him. The song Mere Desh ki Dharti is amonsgt his best. His first song was sung by Lata ji and he is a great fan and friendof Rafisaab. My favorite songs penned by him are from filsm like Upkaar, Haath Ki safai, Zanjeer and Adalat. He has worked mostly with KA and RDB. He has also given special and guest appearances in films. I have some wonderful information about Gulshan and Rafisaab during the recording of the song in Zanjer. Happy to share if you guys are interested. Cheers SS PLAYBACK SINGING STARTS AND ENDS WITH RAFISAAB. IN TERMS OF QUALITY, CONSISTENCY & VERSATILITY, RAFISAAB IS INFINITE LIGHT YEARS AHEAD OF ALL SINGERS BEFORE, DURING AND AFTER HIM. |
bawlachintu |
Mar 18 2008, 04:43 PM
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I have some wonderful information about Gulshan and Rafisaab during the recording of the song in Zanjer. Happy to share if you guys are interested. Cheers SS Jaroor jaroor Here is the best singer of universe "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." -George Bernard Shaw ." |
suhana_safar |
Mar 19 2008, 05:25 AM
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[Jaroor jaroor This is more or less how the incident goes. It was the month of Ramadan and Rafisaab was fasting when he was called by KA to record the duet "dewane hein dewano ko". Gulshan ji was also present at the recording. Lata ji kept on asking retakes as she was not happy with her delivery of the song. Rafisaab said to KA that he has getting tired and had enough and left the studio a bit upset. Gulshan ji ran after Rafisaab to console him and said "Rafisaab this song is presented on me on the screen". Rafisaab stopped and smiled and said "pehle kyun nahi bataya ke gana aap par hein" Rafisaab went back to the studio and had one more recording and this time Lataji was satisfied with her song delivery. Gulshan ji says Rafisaab sang the song beautifully on all the previous attempts but in the final recording he sang the song for me and on the screen it looked as if I am singing. PLAYBACK SINGING STARTS AND ENDS WITH RAFISAAB. IN TERMS OF QUALITY, CONSISTENCY & VERSATILITY, RAFISAAB IS INFINITE LIGHT YEARS AHEAD OF ALL SINGERS BEFORE, DURING AND AFTER HIM. |
mmuk2004 |
Mar 19 2008, 09:52 PM
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Thank you SSji for this personal, interesting anecdote. I enjoy reading about these as they bring the personalities that we admire for their talent, alive. Like, for example, Dharmendra guzzling 20 glasses of nimbu pani as a struggling star, after getting his money-order from home
Gulshan Bawra acted in a number of films to keep the afloat in the sixties. And before he hit the gold mine again with “Yaari hai” in ‘73 he wrote some other beautiful tracks, mostly for Kalyanji Anandji’s films. Almost all the songs from Vishwas, for example are hauntingly simple and heartfelt. Here are two of the famous “virah” geets from the film: Vishwas(1969): MD: Kalyanji Anandji Chandi ki deewar na todi pyar bhara dil tod diya(3) Ek dhanwan ki beti ne nirdhan ka daman chod diya Chandi ki deewar na todi Kal tak jisne kasme khayin usne saath nibhane ki Aaj wo apne sukh ke khatir ho gayi ek begane ki Shahnayiyon ke goonj mein dabke reh gayi aah deewane ki Dhanwano ke deewane ka gham se rishta jod diya Ek dhanwan… Wo kya samjhe pyar ko jinka sab kuch chandi sona hai Dhanwano ki is duniya mein dil to ek khilona hai Sadiyon se dil tootta aaya dil ka ye bas rona hai Jab tak chaha dil se khela aur jab chaha tod diya Ek dhanwan ki… Aap se humko bichde huye Ek zamana beet gaya Apna muqaddar bigde hue Ek zamana beet gaya Aap se milke in aankhon ne Kitne khwab sajaye the Jis gulshan mein hamne milke Geet wafa ke gaaye the Us gulshan ko ujde hue Ek zamana beet gaya… Kismat humko le aayi hai Gulshan ke veerane mein Aansun bhi nakaam rahe hain Dil ke aag bujhane mein Is veerane mein jalte hue Ek zamana beet gaya "This isn't right, this isn't even wrong." Wolfgang Pauli (1900-1958) "There are no facts, only interpretations." Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900) |
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