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> Oscars Not The Best Criteria To Judge Our Talent !, Lot many Indians could have won !
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post Feb 27 2009, 12:33 AM
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Check out what Sarod ustad Ali akbar khan has to say on A R rehman and on other talent among Indian artists !



Is Rehman the best ever?

Ranjan Das Gupta

Ustad Ali Akbar Khan is happy but not overwhelmed by A.R. Rahman winning the Golden Globe for his original score in “Slumdog Millionaire”.
In a rare conversation from the U.S., he says, “Yes, it is a matter of pride for the Indian film fraternity. It has put Indian film music on the international scene and Rahman deserves a lot of credit. But it does not signify that Rahman is the greatest composer for films in India.”
Call of music
Though Ali Akbar Khan maintains a safe distance from film music he does occasionally hear film tunes, specially the ones composed in Hindi.
He claims, “Did not A.R. Rahman compose the hit number ‘Aye Ajnabi’ for ‘Dil Se’? It is a direct lift of Shanker Jaikishan’s immortal number, ‘Manzil Wohi Hain’ from ‘Kathputli’ in 1957 rendered melodiously by Subir Sen. Even his ‘Chal Chaiyyan Chaiyyan’ is very similar to Shanker Jaikishan’s ‘Oh Maiya Bata Maiya’ from ‘Shree 420’. He just fastened the beats.”
The sarod maestro feels strongly that Indian composers have never got their due in the West.
He explains, “Rarely do western composers have knowledge of Indian classical ragas or folk music. I see no reason as to why Pandit Ravi Shanker’s tunes for the ‘Apu’ trilogy or Vilayat Khan’s background score for ‘Jalsaghar’ should not get Oscar awards. They are at par with the best musical compositions of any Hollywood or European classics. Though Satyajit Ray’s sense of Indian classical music was limited, his own compositions for ‘Teen Kanya’, ‘Charulata’ and ‘Goopy Gayen Bagha Bayen’ are of international standards. Thank God, he was awarded a Lifetime Achievement Oscar prior to his death.”
Ali Akbar Khan remembers his conversation with Maurice Jar, the legendary composer of “Bridge On The River Kwai”, “Lawrence Of Arabia” and “Dr. Zhivago” in the late ’60s, “Maurice was very interested in Indian classical music after watching ‘Devi’ and hearing my score for the film. He told me that the Oscar jury will ironically lend a deaf ear to my score as Indian classics are like acid to them generally. He also questioned the abilities of many of the jury members’ idea and knowledge of Indian ragas. Similar views were expressed to me by no less a director than John Huston.”
Ali Akbar Khan remembers, “Sir Richard Attenborough was wrong in using the London Philharmonic Orchestra to conduct music for his ambitious ‘Gandhi’ by removing Ravi Shankar’s compositions. Ravi Shankar would have done more justice to ‘Gandhi’ than the London Philharmonic Orchestra. I am not demeaning western classical music. I am myself an ardent listener and admirer of philharmonic orchestras. But, each director should appoint a person of the soil, where he is shooting his film.”
That brings in the question that A.R. Rahman, an Indian composer was the right choice for “Slumdog Millionaire” as the theme, location and even music needed to be rooted in India with Hindi essence.
The Ustad agrees, “I am not denying his selection. He is technically very strong but if Salil Chowdhury or Madan Mohan had got chances in Hollywood, they would have worked wonders. Our legendary composers have never received international recognition in the real sense of the term. Yes, Jaikishan’s tunes have been hummed in Soviet Russia, Eastern Europe and China. But did Hollywood and Western Europe ever consider his or the others’ worth?”

http://blogs.thehindu.com/delhi/?p=12757

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Ek aur article. where Zakir Hussain says he doesnt care much for oscars then the compliments he got from his dad.! ( Iam looking for exact interview but this one has almost same wordings )

Being called 'Ustad' by Ravishankar my biggest award: Zakir

After winning the Grammy for a second time recently, tabla player Zakir Hussain is elated on being called an 'Ustad' by sitar maestro Pt Ravishankar and says it is unforgettable and the most rewarding experience than any award.

"For me, every award means the good wishes of maestros. Getting an award feels like I am not lagging behind the art, culture and critics," the mesmerising tabla player said during a programme in the capital.

Hussain says, "I treasure most two awards in my life. The first was when my father and teacher Ustad Allah Rakha Khan appreciated my performance and said 'theek hai' (it is alright).
( note this : achha bhi nahin " just theek hai " usper itni khushi ! !!! )

"The second was when sitar player Pt Ravishankar at a joint performance introduced me as 'Ustad' Zakir Hussain. I was just 20-years-old at that time," he says. Music is beyond any religion and community, pointed out the maestro.

"Indian classical music is old and has a rich tradition. The music based on sufism is above all boundaries and all religions. It is secular and there is no place for any demarcations made by the any religion be it Hindu or Muslim," he said.


Talking about the younger generation and the music they opt, he said, "The youngsters of our country like to eat all varieties of food. Similarly they go for all kinds of music. The youth in India is more aware than that of west," Zakir Hussain adds.

"Classical music learners are more devoted and focused. They are more hard-working than what I was when I was of their age," he says.

"Classical music is very popular in foreign countries and its popularity is growing rapidly. So, instead of calling it globalisation, 'Indialisation' is the right word," he adds.

Elaborating on the growing interest in classical music, he says the ratio of audience attending classical music programmes has increased compared to that of any movie award function.

Speaking about today's music players, he said that they are versatile. "Today, the youth learning classical music has the ability to play Raag Darbari and Raag Malkos and is also well-versed with jazz, pop and fusion. The future of this art is very bright in the hands of such youngsters," says Hussain.

Talking about his companion of the Grammy award winning 'Global Drum Project', he says, "Mickey Hart and me are rhythm players, and we are both keen learners. That is why we might have done many projects together. Despite being a world famous musician he used to telephone at 1 or 2 in the morning to talk about the creation of a note and to tell me that we would listen to it in the morning," says Hussain recalling his days spent practicing with Hart.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/being-ca...gges.../427944/

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Twice Grammy nominated artist : louis banks ( grandfather of Fusion music n jazz in india !) ! Jab louis ne colloboaration kara to grammy nomination bhi mil gaya. Zakir karta hai to award milta hai. magar there is no award for Indian music !!


It feels great and unreal: Louis Banks

He's the man behind Mile Sur Mera Tumhare and the soundtrack of Mera Bharat Mahan.

Famous for spearheading the jazz movement in India, Louis Banks is 'having a great time living a full life dedicated to music.' Touch wood.

He is happy that his collaborative album Miles from India has been nominated for Grammy Awards 2009 and also surprised at being recognised by the west. As for the rest, the jazz maestro wants to make more music and enjoy life. Excerpts from the interview:

Q: Your album Miles from India has been nominated in the Best Contemporary Jazz Album category for Grammy Awards 2009. How does it feel?
A: It feels great and also unreal because the recognition has come from the other side, which is a rarity. We must be doing something right.

Q: There are only two Indians who have won a Grammy. What do you think is the reason behind this?
A: Only collaborative efforts have been recognised. It's a world market and pure ethnic music has no place in it. The category of world music is self-explanatory. There has to be collaboration.

Q: Tell us something about Miles from India. How is it different from your previous works?
A: Firstly it's a huge collaboration. It's the first time I have been involved in such a trans continental blending, so it's huge and very challenging but rewarding as well. My previous works have been with small, self-contained groups with just a few western musicians and the music was original. But Miles from India is entirely the music of Miles arranged differently with a strong Indian base.

Q: When did your musical journey begin? What made you interested in jazz? What kind of music influenced you the most?
A: I started learning from the age of four, began playing professionally from the age of thirteen and became full time professional with my own group in my twenties. I moved to Calcutta in the seventies and made a name as a jazz pianist. R D Burman discovered me and brought me to Bombay and the rest is history.

Jazz has influenced me the most, but I listen to everything and incorporate different genres in my music

Q: Do you listen to popular music?
A: I do but not full time..it's mostly out of curiosity.

Q: A R Rahman has recently won a Golden Globe. You've been nominated for the Grammys. How does it feel to see so many Indians getting famous?
A: I have not been nominated for the Grammys per se as an individual artist, it's an album nomination in the contemporary jazz category, which I have co produced and arranged. So in that respect I will definitely get credit for it. If it wins, It'll be great.

Finally finally...Indian musicians are now making a mark internationally. The turning point is that the world is taking notice and great world-class institutions like the Golden Globe, Oscars, Grammys are recognising the good work that is done here. It's a proud moment for India. A R Rahman has opened the doors for the future of international music by Indians and this will motivate the next generation to achieve more in the world arena.

Q: What's next? Tell us something about your future projects?
A: Make more music. I am making some new albums with my son Gino, writing a lot of new music, performing a lot everywhere and just having a great time living a full life dedicated to music. I am happy. It's God's blessings.


PS : members are welcome with their views on this topic . I might not be able for replies ! bahut time lete hain aise discusions lol !! bhaago ! tongue1.gif

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one article from telegraph.

WOW - Rishtey mein woh slumdog ke baap lagte hain

he Academy would have been as dazed as Dev if it had only seen some of Bolly's best

Rishtey mein woh slumdog ke baap lagte hain — that would describe many bollywood underdog tales through the decades. We pick a handful from this decade that the oscar academy should watch to get the big picture

Gandhi My Father: Debutant director Feroz Abbas Khan’s searing account of how Gandhi’s son searched for a father and always found the Mahatma. The Slumdog connection? Produced by Anil Kapoor and detailed sound design by Resul Pookutty. Chandni Bar: A slice of life in Mumbai popular yet painful, seductive yet sordid. Madhur Bhandarkar’s ruthless documentation of life in the dance bar was buoyed by a brilliant performance from Tabu.

Maqbool: Macbeth finds a new address in Mumbai’s underworld. Director Vishal Bhardwaj creates a Shakespearean world where cops become witches and dons become kings. Modern Indian cinema at its lethal best. Liked Irrfan in Slumdog? Try this. And don’t miss Pankaj Kapur, Tabu and Naseer-Om. Hazaaron Khwaishein Aisi: Sudhir Mishra mixes passion with politics in this intimate portrait of India in the 1970s. With splendid performances and a knockout soundtrack, this was a rare cinematic achievement. Forget Freida, fall for Chitrangda!

Omkara: Vishal Bhardwaj again. Shakespeare again. Brilliant again. This time Othello inhabits the UP badlands with rustic rawness replacing Mumbaiyaa bhaigiri. Replete with a chartbusting musical score and a breathtaking performance from Saif Ali Khan, if this one doesn’t qualify as world cinema, what does? Chak De! India: Sixteen girls from different states come together with hockey sticks to win the World Cup for India and vault gender and regional barriers. Inspirational and entertaining, Shimit Amin’s championing of the underdog also had a retribution bit with a pinch of religious bias slipped in.

Company: Danny Boyle must have seen this one. The godfather of Mumbai underworld films Ram Gopal Varma uses the Dawood Ibrahim-Chhota Shakeel dynamics to create a hard-hitting magnum opus, from slums to skyscrapers. Black Friday: Bombay on the boyle, er, boil. An episodic look at the prologue and epilogue of the 1993 Mumbai blasts, Anurag Kashyap tells it as it was. It’s a shame that this wasn’t even sent to the Film Federation, forget the Oscars.

Iqbal: If you are only looking for underdog stories, look no further than this small little gem from Nagesh Kukunoor. It’s high time Americans learnt the game because when Bollywood meets bat and ball, there’s no stopping us. Lage Raho Munnabhai: Commerical
Bollywood cinema at its heartwarming best. Rajkumar Hirani makes a goon chant Gandhism and put his principles into practice in today’s world. Fantastical wish fulfilment with a message. Gotcha?
We left out Laagan and Rang de Basanti since they were sent to the oscars.


http://www.telegraphindia.com/1090225/jsp/...ry_10585255.jsp



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Beautiful speech of Rasol pokutty -winner of oscar award for sound :


QUOTE
I dedicate this award to my country. This is not just a sound award but a piece of history that has been handed over to me," a beaming and emotional Pookutty said while dedicating the trophy to a billion Indians.

"I come from a country and civilisation that gave the world the word that precedes silence and is followed by more silence. That word is 'Om'. So I dedicate this award to my country," said Kerala-born sound technician.

Pookutty shared the honours with colleagues Ian Tapp and Richard Pryke.

"This is unbelievable. I share the stage with two magicians, who captured the noise and cacophony of Mumbai to create the soul stirring artful sound of 'Slumdog Millionaire'," he said.


video :
http://ishare.rediff.com/filevideo-resul-p...h-id-577618.php

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