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Posted by: King Kishore Apr 4 2007, 04:25 PM

Gulzar

Want to share some of this Genius' works, friends.

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Starting with 'Sunset Point' - The Album

http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?act=ST&f=16&t=34785&st=45#

Posted by: King Kishore Apr 15 2007, 05:20 PM

Namkeen (1982) - CDQ



Aanki Chali Baanki Chali - Asha
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Aisa Laga Koi Surma Najar Maan - Alka Yagnik
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Badi Der Se Megha Barsaa - Asha
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Phir Se Aaiyo Badra Bidesi - Asha
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Raah Pe Rehte Hain - Kishore + Gulzar + Pancham - Doesnt get any better
http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?showtopic=33745&st=75&gopid=362204&#

KK

Posted by: mirsa Apr 17 2007, 01:01 PM

Thanks a lot KK for this wonderful ablum of Namkeen

Posted by: King Kishore Apr 17 2007, 02:55 PM

QUOTE(mirsa @ Apr 17 2007, 01:01 PM)

Posted by: mmuk2004 May 17 2007, 07:42 AM

QUOTE(King Kishore @ Apr 15 2007, 06:50 AM)

Namkeen (1982) - CDQ



Aanki Chali Baanki Chali - Asha
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Aisa Laga Koi Surma Najar Maan - Alka Yagnik
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Badi Der Se Megha Barsaa - Asha
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Phir Se Aaiyo Badra Bidesi - Asha
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Raah Pe Rehte Hain - Kishore + Gulzar + Pancham - Doesnt get any better
http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?showtopic=33745&st=75&gopid=362204&#

KK

Posted by: Mandrake May 17 2007, 08:00 AM

QUOTE(King Kishore @ Apr 4 2007, 04:25 PM)

Posted by: mmuk2004 May 17 2007, 08:19 AM

Suhas and Sunny,

Please karo ... love Gulzar's songs...

Posted by: Mandrake May 17 2007, 09:46 AM

Madhavi, how about you taking up the posting of lyrics of any song posted here?

Posted by: mmuk2004 May 17 2007, 10:09 AM

QUOTE(Mandrake @ May 16 2007, 11:16 PM)

Madhavi, how about you taking up the posting of lyrics of any song posted here?

Posted by: NATURE May 17 2007, 10:17 AM

QUOTE(Mandrake @ May 17 2007, 10:46 AM)

Madhavi, how about you taking up the posting of lyrics of any song posted here?

Posted by: Mandrake May 17 2007, 10:20 AM

Lol..saara nahi... let us share. Everytime a song is uploaded, let us choose whether we want to upload the lyrics. If you don't, I will. Chalega?
I know it can be a rather tedious job (I've done it on the marathi forum in the past, and Lata was kind enough to take up that part later. I'd then provide the translations).
Commentary, of course, is everybody's job

Posted by: Mandrake May 17 2007, 10:21 AM

Nature
That's called REAL HELP

Posted by: mmuk2004 May 17 2007, 10:34 AM

QUOTE(NATURE @ May 16 2007, 11:47 PM)

2. Phirse Aaiyo Badra Bidesi:

Phir se aaeeyo, badaraa bidesee
Tere pankho pe, motee jadoongee
Bhar ke jaaeeyo, humaaree talayyaa
Mai talayyaa, kinaare miloongee
Tujhe mere kaale kamaleewaale kee saundh

Tere jaane kee rut main jaanatee hoo
Mood ke aane kee reet hain ke nahee
Kaalee daragaa se poochhoongee jaa ke
Tere man mein bhee pareet hain ke nahee
Kachchee puliyaa se, ho ke gujareeyo
Kachchee puliyaa kinaare miloongee

Too jo ruk jaaye, meree atareeyaa
Mai atareeyaa pe, zaalar lagaa doo
Daaloo chaar taabeej gale se
Apane kaajal se, bindeeyaa lagaa doo
Chhoo ke jaaeeyo, humaare bagiche
Mai pipal ke aade miloongee [/b]

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hope it works fine.
from the very recent works, i just love his "tere bina" from guru.

Posted by: Mandrake May 17 2007, 10:43 AM

Dunno about you 'bidesi's but in my country, we do put phoolon ki jhaalar on the main door on important days...

Posted by: mmuk2004 May 17 2007, 11:08 AM

Yes I love that... Can someone explain exactly what "kali kamliwale" means...


Okay just checked it out, have always wondered..

Kamli coat: A coat made from a coarse woolen blanket which, patched innumerable times, Meher Baba wore almost continuously over a period of years; now on display in the Museum Room on Meherabad Hill.


In the "Yashomati Maiyya" song... it refers to Krishna... Interesting.... Gulzar seems to have deliberately used cultural images that haze the boundaries between Hindu and Muslim religious practices... "Kali dargah" "kali kamli wale" ... "ataria pe jhalar" ...

Posted by: parag_sankla May 17 2007, 11:28 AM

QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ May 17 2007, 11:08 AM)

Posted by: Mandrake May 17 2007, 11:33 AM

Why did Gulzar do this 'hazing'? Is it related to the character in the film? Has anyone seen the film?
Gulzar does get nostalgic about the pre-1947 undivided India very often. In his collection of poems, 'Pukhraaj', he has that lovely poem about the 'mehmaan' who come visiting from across the border...

Posted by: mmuk2004 May 17 2007, 11:36 AM

QUOTE(parag_sankla @ May 17 2007, 12:58 AM)

QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ May 17 2007, 11:08 AM)

Yes I love that... Can someone explain exactly what "kali kamliwale" means...


Okay just checked it out, have always wondered..

Kamli coat: A coat made from a coarse woolen blanket which, patched innumerable times, Meher Baba wore almost continuously over a period of years; now on display in the Museum Room on Meherabad Hill.


In the "Yashomati Maiyya" song... it refers to Krishna... Interesting.... Gulzar seems to have deliberately used cultural images that haze the boundaries between Hindu and Muslim religious practices... "Kali dargah" "kali kamli wale" ... "ataria pe jhalar" ...

Madhavi, I think "Kamali" is close to the word "Kambal" which is a kind of blanket. It is generally made of wool, is coarse and is supposed to protect from the winter, as you have mentioned.

About Lord Krishna, I think its always believed that he was not the one with a fair complexion. Kala Kisan ji is a famous saying in the Northern part of India.



Parag

Posted by: mmuk2004 May 17 2007, 11:41 AM

QUOTE(Mandrake @ May 17 2007, 01:03 AM)

Posted by: Mandrake May 17 2007, 11:45 AM

Here's a list of Gulzar's movies (as a lyricist) -
1955 SWAMI VIVEKANAND
1961 KABULIWALA
1963 BANDINI
1965 PURNIMA
1966 BIWI AUR MAKAN
1960 Do Dooni Chaar
1966 SANNATA
1968 Aashirwaad
1968 Rahgir
1970 KHAMOSHI
1971 ANAND
1971 GUDDI
1971 SEEMA
1971 Mere Apne
1972 ANUBHAV
1972 PARICHAY
1974 DOOSRI SITA
1975 AANDHI
1975 KHUSHBOO
1976 MAUSAM
1977 GHARONDA
1977 KINARA
1977 PALKON KI CHHAAON MEIN
1977 SHAQUE
1977 Khatta Meetha
1978 DEVTA
1978 GHAR
1979 GOLMAAL
1980 GRAH PRAVESH
1980 SITARA
1980 SWAYAMVAR
1980 THODI SI BEWAFAI
1981 BASERA
1981 GEHRAYEE
1981 NARAM GARAM
1982 ANGOOR
1982 NAMKEEN
1983 MASOOM
1983 Sadma
1984 TARANG
1985 Ghulami
1986 Jeeva
1986 EK PAL
1987 Jaliyan Wala Bagh
1991 LEKIN
1993 Maya Memsaab
1993 Rudaali
1996 Maachis
1997 Chachi 420
1997 Daayra
1999 Hu Tu Tu
1999 Jahan Tum Le Chalo
2000 Fiza
2005 Bunty Aur Babli
2006 Omkara


Anand Niketan ? (early)
Diler Hasina ? (v early)

Okay, edited as per Hum Tum and Madhavi's inputs.

Posted by: Mandrake May 17 2007, 11:48 AM

Pukhraaj is a collection of poems. Written in urdu (but using devnaagari script)
Spent years reading it

Posted by: HumTum May 17 2007, 11:49 AM

You have missed out Do dooni chaar, Ashirwaad and Rahgeer from whatever little I remember. Gulzaronline.com is a good reference for his filmography.

Posted by: mmuk2004 May 17 2007, 11:56 AM

Do Dooni Chaar - 1960
Aashirwaad - 1968
Rahgir - 1968
Mere Apne - 1971
Khatta Meetha - 1977
Sadma - 1983
Ghulami - 1985
Jeeva - 1986
Jaliyan Wala Bagh - 1987
Maya Memsaab - 1993
Rudaali - 1993
Maachis- 1996
Chachi 420 - 1997
Daayra - 1997
Hu Tu Tu - 1999
Jahan Tum Le Chalo - 1999

Anand Niketan ? (early)
Diler Hasina ? (v early)

Posted by: mmuk2004 May 17 2007, 12:00 PM

Bandini 1963

Just one song in it "Mora gora ang laye le/mohe shyam rang daye de"

Posted by: parag_sankla May 17 2007, 12:01 PM

Since we are talking about Gulzar here, I would like to add something which I read in RMIM some time back.

There was a lot of discussion about his 2 songs from Anubhav. Many members posted their views about "Meri jaan mujhe jaan na kaho" and "Mera dil jo mera hota"

The kind of word-play he has achieved in Meri jaan mujhe jaan na kaho is amazing.

( On a side note, Anubhav had another song penned by Kapil Kumar which is "Koi chupake se aake, sapane sula ke mujh ko jaga ke bole ke main aa raha hoon..."..Wow..kya baat hain ! Sapane sulake ..mujhko jagake...simply superb)

Cheers
Parag

Posted by: HumTum May 17 2007, 12:04 PM

Madhavi sis not to forget the unreleased songs of the movie Devdas that had lovely numbers by Kishore and Lata under R.D.Burman's baton.

Posted by: mmuk2004 May 17 2007, 12:05 PM

QUOTE(HumTum @ May 17 2007, 01:34 AM)

Madhavi sis not to forget the unreleased songs of the movie Devdas that had lovely numbers by Kishore and Lata under R.D.Burman's baton.

Posted by: mmuk2004 May 17 2007, 12:08 PM

QUOTE(parag_sankla @ May 17 2007, 01:31 AM)

Posted by: parag_sankla May 17 2007, 12:09 PM

QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ May 17 2007, 12:00 PM)

Posted by: mmuk2004 May 17 2007, 12:11 PM

QUOTE(parag_sankla @ May 17 2007, 01:39 AM)

QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ May 17 2007, 12:00 PM)

Bandini 1963

Just one song in it "Mora gora ang laye le/mohe shyam rang daye de"

Is it the first song of Gulzar as a lyricist ? Thats what I knew all these years.

Not sure...

Posted by: parag_sankla May 17 2007, 12:14 PM

I must add, that "Mora gora ang lai le" is another example of an almost near perferct song (IMHO). Meaningful lyrics, great tune, nice folk based rhythmic music and voice of Goddess !

(Another perfect song at the top of my head will be Yeh duniya agar mil bhi jaaye toh kya hain..)

Cheers
Parag

Posted by: mmuk2004 May 17 2007, 12:18 PM

QUOTE(parag_sankla @ May 17 2007, 01:44 AM)

Posted by: parag_sankla May 17 2007, 12:23 PM

QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ May 17 2007, 12:18 PM)

QUOTE(parag_sankla @ May 17 2007, 01:44 AM)

I must add, that "Mora gora ang lai le" is another example of an almost near perferct song (IMHO). Meaningful lyrics, great tune, nice folk based rhythmic music and voice of Goddess !

(Another perfect song at the top of my head will be Yeh duniya agar mil bhi jaaye toh kya hain..)

Cheers
Parag

Yes... Gulzar's sensuous lyrics with Lata's pristine voice supported by SDB... It reminds me of another incredible combination "Aaj Sajan Mohe "

Posted by: HumTum May 17 2007, 12:36 PM

But Paragbhai, so what if you are biased towards your favorite singer?

Posted by: King Kishore May 17 2007, 03:45 PM

Superb, - Madhavi, Mandrake, Nature, Parag and HumTum.

Just logged on and saw 'Humaare Peeth Peechhe Kya Ho Rahaa Hai'

Excellent Idea and Thoughts, please do continue, and wherever possible I will def put in my Chavanni.

Sunny

Posted by: King Kishore May 17 2007, 03:52 PM

QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ May 17 2007, 12:18 PM)

QUOTE(parag_sankla @ May 17 2007, 01:44 AM)

I must add, that "Mora gora ang lai le" is another example of an almost near perferct song (IMHO). Meaningful lyrics, great tune, nice folk based rhythmic music and voice of Goddess !

(Another perfect song at the top of my head will be Yeh duniya agar mil bhi jaaye toh kya hain..)

Cheers
Parag

Yes... Gulzar's sensuous lyrics with Lata's pristine voice supported by SDB... It reminds me of another incredible combination "Aaj Sajan Mohe "

Posted by: usrafian May 17 2007, 05:43 PM

Dosto,

Moka Bhi Hai Aur Datur Bhi Hai....

..enjoy 'Live' chat with Gulzar Sahab

Draft Transcript of Live Chat of Gulzar on Rediff on 17th July,1999

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swastik : namaskaar ... Gulzar saheb aaye kya?
Ajit Singh : Thodisi Zameen, Thoda Aasmaan Tinkon Ka Bas Ek Aashian ....
Mausam : Shaam se aankh main kuch nami si hain. Is Gulzaar Saab here??
vinay : hello sablog,
Darshan : Hi mausam: he'll be here in approx. 4 mins. But don't quote me on that, as I'm going on GMT!!
swastik : Ummeed hogi koi... 5 baje warna koi aata nahi... ;-)

Gulzar : Adaab everybody, nice meeting you all :-)
vinay : sir, dil se shuru kareN
Jehangir : Gulzar Sahab, Adaab. This is the postman from Karachi. Sultan-e-Mausiqui is at office he had also wished to join me now
Darshan : Adaab Arz, Gulzar sahib? Kaise hai aap?


Mausam : So here are we all But where's the man-in-Question??
Gulzar : Mausam: Main aa gaya hoon bas aap ki kami si hai:-)
Mausam : WOW , Woh ghadi aa gayi . We are flattered ,Gulzar Saab
sandeep : hello gulzaarsaab are u really there . aapko dil dhoondta hai ..

Milind Desai : Sir When is "Libaas" releasing?
Gulzar : Milind Desai: It is still in the laundry, I'm not sure of the producers plan. Vikas Mohan the editor and proprietor of Complete Cinema is the producer of the film. Ask him:-)

vinay : sir dil se ke baare meiN aap kya sochte haiN. to be frank i was disappointed by the overall effect
Gulzar : Vinay: Visually very very charming. Script required a little more clarity, the music was a superb experience. The fog in the visuals looked good but the fog in the story was blinding.

Kashif (USA) :I wanted to get your opinion about the future of urdu. and what should be the urdu -hindi relations since the are so close and yet different from each other.

Gulzar : Kashif: They are not so different to each other, the idioms of one are used in the other, each one compliments the other for beautifying the expression. The language that we use in films is perhaps the most appropriate, and speakable without any pretences. I think that's the right language of the people. Name it Urdu, Hindi or Hindustani. Urdu has a different (Persian) script, Hindi has Devnagri.Hindi as it is, is read in Urdu script. I wish Urdu be read in Hindi script the same way without any prejudice. A language can have two scripts like Punjabi which is written in Gurumukhi on this side of the border now and in Persian script on the other side. I wish Urdu be adopted in both the scripts with equal love.

Mehta : Gulzar Sir, Why Gulzar has became revolutionist who shouts against social and political corruption ?? You never made movies on these subjects before, ( Andhi was bit exceptional not fully), Why now ?

Gulzar : Mehta: my very first film Mere Apne had this political tone. The relations of the youth with the politicians of the time. Which was updated in Maachis. If you carefully look into the subjects you will find Hu Tu Tu is the updating of Aandhi. In between there was New Delhi Times and some other films also which reffered to the socio political conditions of our times. So it's not as abrupt as you feel.

Ajit Singh : Do you miss RD, Gulzar saab? I miss your partnership a lot!
sandeep : well gulzarji ..any words on Panchamda ...that come to your heart this moment ...
swastik : Gulzar saheb, Pancham ke baad Pancham ki said-reincarnation Jatin-Lalit ke saath kaam karne ka anubhav kaisa raha?
Gulzar : Ajit Singh: Swastik: RD was RD! Pancham to me and freinds. There can't be a duplicate of him. Everybody comes with ones own identity and that is more credible than being a reincarnation of some departed soul. Let RD be in peace. I miss him a lot...you can't put a vaccum into words.

swastik : I know that sir. That's why I said 'said' - but I would like to know the experience.
Ajit Singh : Thankyou Gulzar ji for sharing your thoughts about RD. I miss him very much. Your songs give life to me!!!

sandeep : gulzaarsaab, you must have developed a "special" relationship with sanjeev kumar who gave life to "mausam"
Gulzar : Sandeep: Indeed, Sanjeev was a very special freind like Pancham. Pamcham and Sanjeev were always the two anchors of my films. Both cheated me and left me alone. It was unfair of my friends.

swastik : They didn't only leave you alone sir. We are alone too without them.

pavanjha : How the tranformation of soft romantic poet (Aajkal paaon jameen par) to aggresive and hard hitting (Phir kati gardan sir katne lage hai) has taken place. In last thirty years you were never so aggresive in film songs....
Gulzar : Pavanjha: I was sarcastic perhaps in songs like Sab Kuch Theek Thak Hai in Mere Apne, then Paanch Saalon Ka Dene Hisaab Aaye Hain in Aandhi. Sarcasm didn't work so I so started hitting direct but I see it's not hard enough to make a dent.

vinay : sir, i think the one Gulzar that i like the most is the dialogue writer. Hu tu tu had some unparrellel witty pieces. Why don't u write for films other than yours these days?
Gulzar : Vinay: I do whenever they ask me to. I have written for Hrishida, Basuda, Ramesh Sippy, Romesh Sharma, Shekar Kapur,Prakash Jha and many others. Why don't you recommend me to them again?:-)
Uday : I think Vinay , same thing is equally true in Chupake Chupake or Masoom which are not directed by Gulzar Saab.

Niketan R : Coming back to Hu Tu Tu, there is so much difference between this film and your earlier political film Aandhi. In Aandhi ,the politician lady is selfless, wnats to do only public service and is of great moral character while the protagonist of Hu Tu Tu is corrupt and even has a child from her paramour. Why the major difference between the 2 characters. Is this your growing disgust at politics ?
Gulzar : Niketan R: Both the films reveal the ways of the politician. The distance of years has only made them worse. From Mere Apne to Maachis and Andhi to Hu Tu Tu.
vinay : sir maine ek baar aapse poochha tha, ek sau solah chaaNd ki raatoN ke baare meiN (during one of your Jaipur visits). us waqt aap vyast the. please bataayeN, aap kin chaar mahinoN ka zikra kar rahe haiN.
Gulzar : Vinay: It's not the number which is important, it's important that somebody kept the count of the moonlit nights of which they spent together.

Suresh : Which singer gave your lyrics the depth and feeling you really wanted?
Gulzar : Suresh: Different ones with different lyrics at different times.
swastik : Sir, what has been your experience with Jatin Lalit in Khubsoorat?
Gulzar : Swastik: Bahut Khoobsoorat:-)

vinay : sir. There's a lot of discussion about you and your work on the music newsgroup on the Net Rec.Music.Indian.Misc. The one recent discussion being about your debut song. Apparantly Mora gora rang lei le is been claimed by Shailendra's daughter as Shailendra's - the Antaras. Would you clarify please? And do u hapen to read, by any chance, the newsgroup? It is one of the best discussion forum about Indian Film Music.
Gulzar : Vinay: I only knew Shailendra, even before I came to films from Bombay Youth Choir and IPTA. Even if by chance any line had resembled his, he would have told me, he was there when my song was accepted by Sachinda and Bimalda. I have no more clarifications to give.
Niketan R : Thanks Gulzar Saab, We see that there is now an element of anger in Hu Tu Tu which we did not see much of earlier like Namkeen, Angoor(my favorite comedy of all time), Khushboo etc. As I said earlier the ending was very un -Gulzar like. My wife was shocked at the ending . She never expected such a violent act in a Gulzar movie. What was the end supposed to signify . Is this the amount of disgust with politics?
Gulzar : Niketan R: No, it was an expression of protest by the younger generation. We unfortunately have failed to give a better country to our younger generation than what we have inherited ourselves . It's a disgust with myself and the generations behind me who have not done their share to stand up against injustice. I do know there will be a turning point somewhere but I'm not sure I will be able to look into the eyes of the coming generation without guilt.

Niketan R : Today will you make a film like Angoor or Namkeen?
Gulzar : Niketan: Yes. Not to repeat the same but similar subjects if the producers agree. Namkeen for it's different relationships of four women of different age groups with one man in the house. And Angoor for a pure comedy without a melodramatic end.
mehta : I repeat my question? Sir, Please tell me about ALL TIME GREAT SANJEEV KUMAR,Tell me about how he worked?? Specially for your films Mausam & Angoor , what homework he has done to grip the character ?? How he was getting those sharp reactions and expressions ??
Gulzar : Mehta: The special quality with Sanjeev was to swallow the script, digest it and throw up:-) He played the characters with an internal intensity and not the external gestures. Look carefully in Mausam and Aandhi his get up and costume is almost the same yet how differently he plays the two characters.
Uday : Gulzarji, kya aapake partition ke zakhm abhi bhi vaise hi hai ? Kyon ki jab mai 'Dastak' sunta ya padhata hoon to zakhm abhi bhi taaje lagate hai ? Wohi baat Maachis mai Om Puri ke dialogues ke baare mai ? Aap uske baare mai kya sochate ho ?
Gulzar : Uday: I saw the entire bloodshed happening at a very early age of 10-11. I have seen the half burnt and stinking dead bodies being scraped from the road side with showels, thrown into the trucks to clear the way. Those images left me with nightmares for more than 25 years to follow. It is with much effort that I have dissolved them away from my concious thoughts. They still reappear sometimes with the newsclips with the evidence... Can I really get over it till the scene fades away from the society?
vinay : sir, u have given some more than obvious hints for your dislike of Mahatma Gandhi. The recent example being Hu Tu Tu (scene about Subhash Chandra Boseji's picture. Also Om Puri's monologues in Machis). Any particular reasons? Of course i don't agree with you (at least once in my life ).
Gulzar : Vinay: No I have no dislike for Mahatma Gandhi. I dislike the way his followers have used him and are using him till date. Maachis was a refernce to them not to Mahatma Gandhi. Refernce to Subhash Chandra Bose is only a reminder of the religious unity of INA in Hu Tu Tu.
Suresh : In your opinion who was better - RD or SD? Why? Just curious!
Gulzar : Suresh: It's unfair to compare the two. Both were geniuses in their own generations times. Both have come down as genius gems to us. Long live their music. I do not like the remixes done on their works.

pavanjha : Some of your songs are out of reach of your fans like Gehrayee (rishte bas rishte hote hai,), Mammo (Hazaar baar chale hum). Similarly You did lots of serials for children. 'Chaddi pehan ke phool khila hai', 'Guchha hai', 'Tap tap tobi' to 'Potli baba ki' which are not available on audio. Can you do something for bringing out these scores?
Gulzar : Pavanji I'm aware of the tremendous effort you have done in collecting my works, I'm grateful. I take this oppurtunity to express my thanks. The works which you have enquired about are with different producers. So it is not possible to compile them, unless some musical company or somebody with your kind of initiative collects them and publishes them in a casstte. There are some songs of Pancham for films like Bharosa, Abhi Abhi , which never got released because the films were not completed. There are songs of Jaidevji and Vasant Desai, Laxmikant, Khayyam and some others which are lying scattered away. At another time I'll try to send you a list across and then see if I can collect the songs for you I do not promise all but atleast some of them.
anand : gulzaarsaab, who amongst your contemporaries do you have the greatest respect and admiration for...is it saahir, Shailendra, Neeraj or somebody else..please answer sir...
Gulzar : Anand: If I respect one it doesn't mean I respect the other less. Shailendra in my opinion was the greatest lyricist that happened to Hindi films in my times, though, D N Madhok was the earlier one. Shailendra knew the difference of a poem and a lyric. He brought the lyric close to the literary standard in a comman mans ballad. For example Mera Jootha Hai Japani. In the antra he sings the glory of the comman man, the antra which starts 'honge raje rajkunvar hum, hum bigade dil shahezade' Sahirsaab was a literary poet and remained so. He didn't accept the medium as much as the medium accepted him. Neeraj again in his won capacity was one great poet who came to films and left it to join politics.

Ajit Singh : Will HMV ever release 'Dil Padosi Hai' on CD?
Gulzar : Ajit Singh: I think it is available on CD.
Ajit Singh : The songs, I mean the master tapes have not been preserved by HMV. Which we know since they are making CDs made from tapes recorded from LPs. Will your songs will ever be reproduced in their original quality?

mehta : Gulzarji, What is relation between an director & an Actor as far as characterization of a movie character is concern? You dominate you actors OR your actors have free choice of act according to their perception of character & you just describe what kind of character you want?
Gulzar : Mehta: We all remain bound to the script. Nobody rises above the script including the director.

Ninad : Gulzaar saab, just one question, when you write the lyrics of a song, do you wrtie them based on the tune already coomposed or is the tune composed after you pen down the words? Or do both the processes go hand in hand?
Gulzar : Ninad: Actually both the processes work together simultaneously. With Pancham we used to keep tossing the ball into each others court till the first overhead smash. Even now working with Vishal, we toss the song the same way but quite often the ball is in my court to start the first service. Vishal being well versed with Urdu poetry is more at ease with this process.
kashif : gulzar sahib you consider your self a poet of urdu or hindi? Thanks
Gulzar : Kashif: Both are one language to me, though my script is Urdu. I write in Urdu copy it in Hindi and sing in Hindustani:-)
anand : Gulzaar ji...please ek couplet...bas ..fir hum yahaan se ravvana...please gulzaar ji hum sab ki taraf se ..a couplet about LIFE
anand : hey everybody..please write a line asking Gulzaar ji to write us a couplet..this session cant be complete without that..ok?..1..2..3..NOW..all of you please write down the request..


Gulzar : Anand/Mausam:

Har Ek Gham Nichod Ke, Har Ek Ras Jiye
Do Din Ki Zindagi Mein, Hazaron Baras Jiye

anand : :-)......:-).....THANK YOU SO MUCH GULZAARJI......BAHUT SHUKRIYA ..BADI MEHERBAANI....
anur : wah kya baat hai ,par aap ke under itna dard kyon hai
Mausam : I am flattered to be here ,this evening . And i am going to remember this for all my life . ek shair ne itna sukoon kabhi pehle nahi diya . REDIFF ,THANX A TON .
swastik : waah Gulzar sahab waah
anand : I AGREE WITH MAUSAM...THANX REDIFF FOR GIVING US THIS OPPURTUNITY TO BE ONEONONE WITH A LEGEND..

swastik : Gulzar sir, pleeeease ek bhasha se juDa sawal - is it right to keep the publicity matter and titles etc.. of Hindi films in English? and is it right for actors/actresses to speak in English in most off-screen appearances?
Gulzar : Swastik: Straightaway to confess. NO. In foreign film festivals many a times we have been questioned that why Indian and Pakistani films have English titles and the language of the film was not the same. In our own country it's not the same with Bengali and South India films, whether Tamil, Telegu, Kanada, Malayam... It's only in Hindi and Urdu films that we have this. I think it's more for the trade reasons that it has been imposed on us. Secondly English provides the all India link. For the second part of your question, it's not fair to speak English in Hindi programs and keep punching Hindi into English programs. Kyon theekh hai ki nahin?:-)

Gulzar : Last five minutes in the room.

anand : gulzaarji....hum sab ki taraf se...BAHUT BAHUT DHANYAWAAD..AAP AAYE..CHAND BAATEIN KI....WE ARE VERY GRATEFUL AND ENRICHED....AISE MAUKE BAHUT KAM NASSEB HOTE HAIN...ONCE AGAIN THANK YOU.....KHUDA AAPKO LAMBI UMAR DE..SO THAT WE MAY ALL BENEFIT FROM YOUR INSPIRATIONAL PEN
Mausam : Gulzar Saab : Tum jo keh do to Aaaj ki raat chaand doobega nahi ,Raat ko rok lo , Raat baat hain aur Zindagi Baaki to nahi pavanjha : BAS EK CHUP SI LAGI HAI. NAHIN UDAAS NAHIN.
pavanjha : Abhi na parda giraao Thehro

Darshan : Why is the flashback your favourite technique of film narration?
Gulzar : Darshan: I don't make concious effort for this, it is natural rendering or narratin or story for me. Even in my regular conversation I go back to describe past incidents as I'm doing with my friend Suparn right here. I feel that is a very natural way of narrating a story. We make it unnatural only when we iron it and straighten it out. The flashback also helps to dramatise the unity of time and place. Could I explain myself?

Koi khamosh zakhm lagti hai
Zindagi ek Nazm lagti hai


Bye, Doston, Khuda hafiz--Gulzar


***************


Kaho Yaaro, Kaisi Rahii ???
USR

Posted by: bawlachintu May 17 2007, 06:10 PM

Could sumone post lyrics of "Anki chali banki chali", please

Posted by: mmuk2004 May 18 2007, 04:31 AM

QUOTE(bawlachintu @ May 17 2007, 07:40 AM)

Posted by: mmuk2004 May 18 2007, 04:45 AM

QUOTE(usrafian @ May 17 2007, 07:13 AM)

Kaho Yaaro, Kaisi Rahii ???
USR

Posted by: Mandrake May 18 2007, 07:52 AM

Thanks Madhavi for the background. Yes, I haven't seen Namkeen, just as I haven't seen many, many, many others. Since 1986, my movie watching rate can be put at about 2-3 a year (max!!)

Posted by: parag_sankla May 18 2007, 08:17 AM

QUOTE(Mandrake @ May 18 2007, 07:52 AM)

Posted by: Mandrake May 18 2007, 09:23 AM

Yes, I checked it. The site seems to be down, as none of the hyperlinks work.
Maybe you can try it later in the day.

Posted by: mmuk2004 May 18 2007, 08:32 PM

USRafian,

With reference to the conversation with Gulzar that you pasted, a few questions which you or s'one else might have any info on....

The date is 1999... wonder if there has been any follow up on that

1) Did Libaas ever get released?
2) The albums with RDB that he mentioned, Bharosa and Abhi Abhi... again has anything been done about them?

With regard to some of his movies that were mentioned in this conversation...
Interesting that he thought Mani Ratnam's Dil Se was not particularly well thought out... his ending in "Hu Tu Tu" is very similar, I was disappointed with it but maybe he was trying to make a different point.. hmm need to go back and see the movie again. The Nana Patekar angle was very bitter though.. I personally thought Maachis was much better thought out in terms of the violence that he depicted in it as it touches the lives of all the characters.

I always felt that violence was a very strong theme in a number of Gulzar's movies right from the beginning... Mere Apne is a brilliant movie, it is apparently a remake of a Bengali movie. Anyone has seen it ? Someone pointed to the romantic lyrics of Ghar, as a far cry from those of Hu Tu Tu... Ghar too deals with violence of a kind...rape and its repurcussions on the life of an ordinary couple. "Kaanch Ke Khwab Hain Aakhon Mein Chub Jayenge".

Posted by: HumTum May 19 2007, 10:44 AM

Libaas a 1988 to be released movie was never released. Shall try and get more info on this very soon.

One movie of recent past, which I would like to highlight is Leela, featuring Vinod Khanna, Dimple Kapadia.

Posted by: NATURE May 19 2007, 11:58 AM

QUOTE(usrafian @ May 17 2007, 06:43 PM)

Kaho Yaaro, Kaisi Rahii ???
USR

QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ May 18 2007, 05:31 AM)

QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ May 18 2007, 09:32 PM)

Mere Apne is a brilliant movie, it is apparently a remake of a Bengali movie. Anyone has seen it ?

Posted by: usrafian May 19 2007, 01:12 PM

QUOTE(NATURE @ May 19 2007, 11:58 AM)

QUOTE(usrafian @ May 17 2007, 06:43 PM)

Gulzar : Anand/Mausam:

Har Ek Gham Nichod Ke, Har Ek Ras Jiye
Do Din Ki Zindagi Mein, Hazaron Baras Jiye

waah !!! ye kisi movie ki hai ya impromptu hai ?

aisi interview aur hai to upload kijiyegaa, preferably audio/video ...

Posted by: Mandrake May 19 2007, 10:15 PM

And what about that lovely, lovely Khushboo song, 'O maajhee re, apna kinara nadiya ki dhara hai'?
Those lyrics are also awesome!!
Saahilon pe behne waale kabhi suna toh hoga nahi
kaagazon ki kashtiyon ka koi kinara hota nahi
koi kinara maajhdhaare se mile woh apna kinara hai...

What an idea!! If any river-bank can shift to come midstream, only such a bank can be mine!!

Paaniyon mein beh rahe hain kayee kinaare toote huye
raaston mein mil gayee hain sabhee sahaare chhoote huye
koi sahara maanjhdhaare se mile woh apna sahara hai...

I think it so acutely expresses the anguish of a man who's caught up in the strong currents of life's unpredictable ways. Left to himself, he doesn't seem able to find his way to solid ground, so he asks - can the ground come and meet me midstream?

Wow!

Posted by: parag_sankla May 19 2007, 10:44 PM

QUOTE(usrafian @ May 19 2007, 01:12 PM)

QUOTE(NATURE @ May 19 2007, 11:58 AM)

QUOTE(usrafian @ May 17 2007, 06:43 PM)

Gulzar : Anand/Mausam:

Har Ek Gham Nichod Ke, Har Ek Ras Jiye
Do Din Ki Zindagi Mein, Hazaron Baras Jiye

waah !!! ye kisi movie ki hai ya impromptu hai ?

Pakka 'impromptu' hai

Kabhii Maang Kar Le Liye Gam Kisii Ke
Kabhii Apane Gam Kar Diye Hain Paraaye
Ye Bedard Yaaden Ye Hamdard Aansuu
Badii Duur Tak Chhodane Saath Aaye

This is also by Gulzar Sahab but not 'impromptu'.

QUOTE

aisi interview aur hai to upload kijiyegaa, preferably audio/video ...

Zaruur .

ThankU Nature Ji & Madhavi Ji for your comments on Gulzar's Chat.

From begining, Sampoorn Singh 'Gulzar', has emotionally suffered alot which is clearly expressed in his poetries/songs/stories.

I wonder , which was his 1st movie, 'Kabuliwala' or 'Bandini'.

As discussed above by Parag Ji, 'Mora Gora Ang Layee Le' was Gulzar's 1st song (Bandini) under the priceless guidance of Shailendra Mahan. I rate this song as top-most of Gulzar.

Many 'Maanjhi-songs' are written by various great lyricist like Majrooh's-'Sun Mere Bandhu Re' Shailendra's-'Vahaan Koun Hai Tera' & so on but Gulzar's two 'Maanjhi Songs' are on top of ALL & will remain (I suppose)..

Ganga Aaye Kahan Se (Kabuliwala) & Janam Se Main Banjaara O Bandhu (Rahgir).

Ofcourse, rarely touched subject 'Children's song' no one can touch Gulzar !!!

USR

Posted by: shaibaal May 20 2007, 09:17 AM

QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ May 18 2007, 09:32 PM)

Mere Apne is a brilliant movie, it is apparently a remake of a Bengali movie. Anyone has seen it ?

which movie ? detail please.

Posted by: mmuk2004 May 20 2007, 09:18 AM

QUOTE(Mandrake @ May 19 2007, 11:45 AM)

Posted by: mmuk2004 May 20 2007, 09:25 AM

Gulzar seems to have a fascination with names... or at least I am fascinated by names he chooses for his characters... The Eldest is "Nimki" (Sharmila Tagore) and middle one (Shabana) is "Mitthu" and the youngest one...as they ran out of flavours..."Chinki" . Waheeda Rehman is Jyoti(Jugni). I remember in Lekin too he has this beautiful name for his beautiful ghost... Reva... wonder what it means.


Aage... movie dekho and please comment karo...

naam mein kuchh to baat hai mmuk ji. i think i like mitthu vaise nimki bhi achchhaa hai but
it's too funny. lyrics ke liye dhanyawaad !!!

main movie nahi dekhi, review please ...

QUOTE(NATURE @ May 19 2007, 01:28 AM)

QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ May 18 2007, 09:32 PM)

Mere Apne is a brilliant movie, it is apparently a remake of a Bengali movie. Anyone has seen it ?

which movie ? detail please.

Posted by: mmuk2004 May 20 2007, 09:37 AM

QUOTE(shaibaal @ May 19 2007, 10:47 PM)

QUOTE

QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ May 18 2007, 09:32 PM)

Mere Apne is a brilliant movie, it is apparently a remake of a Bengali movie. Anyone has seen it ?

which movie ? detail please.

The name of the bangla film was "Aponjon" which translated would mean 'Mere Apne'.

Posted by: shaibaal May 21 2007, 04:19 AM

Posted by: mmuk2004 May 21 2007, 08:54 AM

QUOTE(shaibaal @ May 20 2007, 05:49 PM)

There is this song - Roz akeli aaye, roz akeli jaaye, chaand katora liye bhikharan raat - from Mere Apne that I believe was never included in the final film. Salilda, well, lifted the entire tune from a Nazrul Geeti (as the songs of Kazi Nazrul Islam are referred to) - 'meghla nishi bhorey, mon je kemon korey'. The funny thing is that one of the more popular recordings of this bangla song is in the voice of Kumar Sachin Dev Burman (!) Just an interesting trivia that I thought I would mention.

Posted by: mmuk2004 May 21 2007, 09:01 AM

Okay googled for the song with "nazrul" thanks to Shaibaal and came across some more interesting trivia on "Roz Akeli Aaye". The song was not used in the film as it was supposed to be sung by Meena Kumari and she was so ill that it could never be shot. Gulzar refused to have the song in the film as a background song so it was not included...

Two stanzas of the song were released but there were actually three stanzas. Apparently Gulzar released the song in one of his compilations and this one had a different stanza along with the common one. The compiled song is uploaded in the salilda.com site that was created by his ardent fan Gautam Choudhury.

Here is the compiled version of the song... (the first stanza is missing in most available copies of the song...)


Roj akeli aaye re roz akeli jaye
Chand katora liye bhikharan raat

Motiyon jaise taare aanchal mein hain saare(2)
Haye re phir kya maange bhikharan raat...
Roj akeli...

Jogan jaisi laage na soye na jaage(2)
Bani gali mein jaye bhikharan raat...
Roj akeli...

Roj lagaye phera hai koi nanha savera(2)
God mein bhardo aayi bhikharan raat...
Roj akeli...

Gulzar and raat and chand are old friends... here he gives a very definite twist to the usual romantic imagery used in hindi songs for raat and chand... Raat as a "bhikaran" with the chand as her "begging bowl"...

Posted by: shaibaal May 29 2007, 02:52 AM

how interesting that that SDB sang that Nazrul Geet... would love to hear that version... (anyone??? ... and if one is that much of a purist then it could be u/d in the SDB section... )

Posted by: mmuk2004 May 29 2007, 09:15 AM

Shaibaal,

Thank you for the prompt upload... in the past week I badgered another group for this song... and got the SDB version and have been listening to it ever since. Beautiful rendition... So now for some further demands... how about a translation of the song and some info on Nazrul geeti(your source will not be revealed... )... Most of the web information on Nazrul geeti end up giving basically biographical details about Kazi Nazul Islam.

On another note... did not know it had been sung by AB too (wonder who provided the music), I was told that Manna Dey also sang a version of the same song. The "Main Albeli" track from Buzdil is also based on this song (source:Srinivas).

Posted by: usrafian May 29 2007, 11:21 AM

QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ May 21 2007, 09:01 AM)

Posted by: mmuk2004 May 29 2007, 06:14 PM

USR ji,

That was straight from the heart... aapka andaaz-e-bayan padh kar maza aa gaya.... I am surprised about your info about the song being included in the movie... most of the write-ups on the song mention that it was not included. Have a dvd that definitely does not have the song, but that naturally does not prove anything, I have a dvd of Namkeen that has chopped off two songs and the ending and made it completely different!!!

Yes, one of my first impressions of Mere Apne was that both Vinod Khanna and Shatrughan looked so young... and it is a movie about youth...

Meena Kumari, despite the annoying wig and the bad make-up was, I thought, brilliant in the movie. She is an old lonely widow who lives in the village and is suddenly remembered by a very distant nephew who takes her to the city professing that he is concerned about her loneliness but in reality is in dire need of a maidservant who will look after his son as both the husband and wife go out to work. Meena Kumari brought up on old world values goes to the city and very soon realises the equation...

I remember some scenes so vividly in the movie. The wife Sumita Sanyal is getting ready to go to work and is trying to shrug off her irritation at Meena Kumari's interference... At this point Meena Kumari is vocally showing her disapproval of short hair and pants that modern working women wear...complaining that one cannot distinguish men from women nowadays... and then suddenly the scene shifts to years ago when her husband (Deven Verma) who used to work for the Nautanki and often played female roles is dressing up for the play and is adjusting his wig and saree with professional care... and Meena Kumari bursts into giggles of fond memories... Talk about gender-benders... The scene is handled so deftly by Gulzar(I do want to see the original), picking up a very common point of conflict and manages to build empathy for the old woman who comes across as so much more broadminded even while she is annoyingly old-fashioned... Baghban despite some emotional moments when one sneaked and wiped a tear(cursing Amitabh Bachchan!!!) was so melodramatic and didactic and quite unpalatable logically...

On the other hand there are these two warring bands of unemployed youth who have nothing better to do but get involved in street fights and who are exploited by the political parties for their own agenda... Shunned and feared by the rest of the colony, they and Meena Kumari forge an unlikely bond which is not too treacly and over-the-top... Kudos to the director again. The movie builds to its tragic climax with so much inevitability... her death is so meaningless and her body being taken away by the municipal van is mourned only by the shocked group of young people who watch it helplessly...

Posted by: usrafian May 30 2007, 10:18 AM

ThankU Madhavi Ji for your comment .

Very nice description of theme behind 'Mere Apne'.

Let's wait for 'mesmerising spell' from our magician-the great (about Gulzar's poetry, he had mentioned) !!!

Aadtan Tumne Kar Diye Vaade,
Aadtan Humne Aitbar Kiya .

USR

Posted by: shaibaal May 31 2007, 10:42 PM

QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ May 28 2007, 11:45 PM)

Shaibaal,

Thank you for the prompt upload... in the past week I badgered another group for this song... and got the SDB version and have been listening to it ever since. Beautiful rendition... So now for some further demands... how about a translation of the song and some info on Nazrul geeti(your source will not be revealed... )... Most of the web information on Nazrul geeti end up giving basically biographical details about Kazi Nazul Islam.

On another note... did not know it had been sung by AB too (wonder who provided the music), I was told that Manna Dey also sang a version of the same song. The "Main Albeli" track from Buzdil is also based on this song (source:Srinivas).

Posted by: mmuk2004 Jun 1 2007, 08:29 PM

QUOTE(shaibaal @ May 31 2007, 12:12 PM)

Posted by: mmuk2004 Jun 1 2007, 08:30 PM

Can someone please post the lyrics of "Haal Chal Theek Thaak Hai"

Posted by: Hari Ram Jun 1 2007, 08:38 PM

I have a question on Gulzar's Aandhi movie.
I thought this movie was banned during Indira Gandhi's emergency era.
When the movie reappeared, did they cut out any songs or scenes?

Hari Ram

Posted by: Hari Ram Jun 1 2007, 08:41 PM

QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ Jun 1 2007, 10:00 AM)

Posted by: mmuk2004 Jun 1 2007, 08:53 PM

QUOTE(Hari Ram @ Jun 1 2007, 10:08 AM)

Posted by: Hari Ram Jun 1 2007, 09:33 PM

QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ Jun 1 2007, 10:23 AM)

QUOTE(Hari Ram @ Jun 1 2007, 10:08 AM)

I have a question on Gulzar's Aandhi movie.
I thought this movie was banned during Indira Gandhi's emergency era.
When the movie reappeared, did they cut out any songs or scenes?

Hari Ram

Hari Ram ji,

Please call me Madhavi... okay googled and got this from a site:

QUOTE

Before Aandhi was banned during emergency by then govt (congress) it showed Suchitra Sen's character smoking and having a drink. Upon it's next release Gulzar was forced to cut these scenes. Gulzar needs to release the original version restoring all those cuts.

Here is a cut and paste from P1j's post in HF on Gulzar's Aandhi:

(link: http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?showtopic=16880)

Posted by: Mandrake Jun 2 2007, 11:41 AM

Is mod se jaate hain.... is loosely based on a poem written by Gulzar. It is said that the poem was written more in quiet angst than happiness. It was the time when his relationship with Rakhee was strained.

Us mod pe baitha hoon
jis mode se jaati hain
har ek taraf raahen...

Ik roz toh yoon hoga
jis mod pe baitha hoon
us mod pe aakar tum
ruk jaaogi, keh dogi
woh kaunsa raasta hai
jis raah se jaana hai...

Posted by: mmuk2004 Jun 7 2007, 10:39 AM

QUOTE(Hari Ram @ Jun 1 2007, 11:03 AM)

Posted by: mmuk2004 Jun 7 2007, 10:45 AM

QUOTE(Mandrake @ Jun 2 2007, 01:11 AM)

Posted by: mmuk2004 Jun 12 2007, 12:20 PM

Jahan Tum Le Chalo (1999)
Vishal Bharadwaj

Jahan Tum Le Chalo - Atthanni Si Zindagi.mp3
Suresh Wadkar
128/3.10

Gulzar's musings on Life... Kabhi Chand Ki Tarah tapki, kabhi raah mein padi paayi atthani si zindagi...

The page is dying on me...will upload the rest of the album later.

Posted by: mmuk2004 Jun 12 2007, 01:16 PM

Here are the lyrics of the song... could not catch some of the words though...

Kabhi Chand ki tarah tapki
Kabhi Raah Mein Padi paayi
Attanni Si Zindagi ye zindagi
Kabhi Cheenk Ki tarah Khanki
Kabhi Jeb Se Nikal Aayi
Attani Si Zindagi...

Kabhi Chehre Pe Jadi Dekhi
Kahin Mod Pe Khadi Dekhi
Sheeshe ke martbano(?) mein
Dukano Pe Padi Dekhi
Chaukanni Si Zindagi
Ye Zindagi...

(?) Laga Ke Milti Hai
Masoomiyat Se Khilti Hai
Kabhi (?) haath mein lekar
Shakhon Pe Baithi Hilti Hai
Nahni si Zindagi yeh zindagi

Posted by: mmuk2004 Jun 12 2007, 07:16 PM

Uploading the rest of the songs

Jahan Tum Le Chalo - You Face(Gary Lawyer).mp3
128/4.08
Jahan Tum Le Chalo - Yeh Kaisi Chaap(Lata_SureshW).mp3
128/5.08
Jahan Tum Le Chalo - Thak Gayee Ho To(Lata_Suresh).mp3
128/4.41
Jahan Tum Le Chalo - Shauq Khwab Ka(Lata).mp3
128.4.04
Jahan Tum Le Chalo - Dekho To Aasman(Suresh).mp3
128/5.46
Jahan Tum Le Chalo - Atthanni Si Zindagi(Suresh).mp3
128/3.10

Posted by: Hari Ram Jun 12 2007, 08:10 PM

QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ Jun 12 2007, 02:46 AM)

Posted by: mmuk2004 Jun 12 2007, 08:16 PM

QUOTE(Hari Ram @ Jun 12 2007, 09:40 AM)

QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ Jun 12 2007, 02:46 AM)

Here are the lyrics of the song... could not catch some of the words though...

Kabhi Chand ki tarah tapki
Kabhi Raah Mein Padi paayi
Attanni Si Zindagi ye zindagi
Kabhi Cheenk Ki tarah Khanki
Kabhi Jeb Se Nikal Aayi
Attani Si Zindagi...

Kabhi Chehre Pe Jadi Dekhi
Kahin Mod Pe Khadi Dekhi
Sheeshe ke martbano(?) mein
Dukano Pe Padi Dekhi
Chaukanni Si Zindagi
Ye Zindagi...

(?) Laga Ke Milti Hai
Masoomiyat Se Khilti Hai
Kabhi (?) haath mein lekar
Shakhon Pe Baithi Hilti Hai
Nahni si Zindagi yeh zindagi

Madhavi,

Thanks for these songs. I am not familiar with this song; but happened to have the lyrics.

I have the questionable words as follows:
'Sheeshe ke martbaanon'
'tamage lagaake milte hai ...'
'kabhi phool haath mein lekar ...'

Hari Ram

Posted by: Hari Ram Jun 12 2007, 08:26 PM

QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ Jun 12 2007, 09:46 AM)

Thanks Hari Ram for your prompt response. You seem to have quite an eclectic fund of knowledge.

Madhavi

Posted by: anjvajay Jun 14 2007, 12:34 PM

QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ Jun 12 2007, 07:16 PM)

Posted by: mmuk2004 Jun 14 2007, 08:15 PM

Thanks Anjvajay just corrected the info.

A shift from "modern" Gulzar to early Gulzar and one of his signature songs...

Song: Hamne dekhi hai in aankhon ki mehakti khushboo.
Film: Khamoshi (1969)
Singer: Lata
Music: Hemant Kumar
Lyrics: Gulzar

Hamne dekhi hai un aankhon ki mehekti khushboo
Haath se chooke ise rishton ka ilzaam na do
Sirf ehsaas hai ye rooh se mehsoos karo
Pyar ko pyar hi rehne do koi naam na do

Pyar koi bol nahin pyar awaaz nahin
Ek khamoshi hai sunti hai kaha karti hai
Na ye bujhti hai na rukti hai na thehri hai kahin
Noor ki boond hai sadiyon se baha karti hai
Sirf ehsaas hai ye rooh se mehsoos karo
Pyar ko pyar hi rehne do koi naam na do
Hamne dekhi hai...

Muskurahat si khili rehti hai aankhon mein kahin
Aur palkon pe ujale se chupe rehte hain
Hont kuch kehte nahi kaapte hoton pe magar
Kitne khamosh se afsane ruke rehte hain
Sirf ehsaas hai ...

Am recycling a couple of older posts from another forum:

Posted by: mmuk2004 Jun 23 2007, 12:48 PM

Ek Hi Khwab Kai Baar Dekha Hai Maine
Kinara(1977)


Ek hi khwab kai baar dekha hai maine
Tune saari mein udas li hai meri chabhiyan...ghar ki
Aur chali aayi hai bas yunhi mera haath pakad kar
Ek hi khwab kai baar dekha hai maine....

Tikku...

Mej par phool sajate hue dekha hai kai baar(2)
Aur bistar se kai baar jagaya hai tujhko
Chalte phirte tere kadmon ki woh aahat bhi suni hai
Ek hi khwab kai baar dekha hai maine

Ye Chitthi hai ya kavita
Abhi tak to kavita hai

Gungunati hai nikli hai nahake jab bhi(2)
Apne bheege hue baalon se tapakta pani
Mere chehre pe chitak deti hai...tu tikku ki bachhi
Ek hi khwab kai baar..

Tash ke patton pe ladti hai kabhi kabhi khel mein mujhse (2)
Aur kabhi ladki bhi hai ke bas khel rahi hai mujhse
Aur aagosh mein nanhe ko liye...
Will you shut up...

Aur janti ho Tikku jab maine ye khwab dekha tha
Apne bistar pe mein us waqt pada jaag raha tha...

Here is the video link of the song on YouTube:


One of my favorite songs... the intimacy is so vividly captured in the lyrics, the score, the singers and the pair enacting the scene... Fits in beautifully in the movie... Dharmendra is Hema's fiance who is tragically killed in an accident by Jeetendra. Inspite of Jeetendra's love (and the movie is definitly the love story of Hema and Jeetendra)... Hema is trapped in the past and does not want to come out of it and the song is a revelation of the passion and harmony of that past relationship which is contrasted with the jarring sets of circumstances that the relationship between Jeetendra and Hema is built upon and Gulzar's genius is to show the beauty and passion in both ... What a gorgeous movie it was... supported by Pancham's incredible score. Each song in the album is a gem.

RD always grumbled affectionately about this song and the "Mera Kuch Samaan Song" as two of the most eccentric tracks that he had to compose for Gulzar...Note the guitar strumming in the song... by Bhupinder...

Posted by: mmuk2004 Jun 23 2007, 12:48 PM

Found a very informative interview in which Gulzar talks in detail about the song... am pasting that article here posted in Pancham yahoo groups by Vinayak...


Subject: Gulzar talks about Ek hi Khwaab - Filmfare April 2005
List-id: <pancham.yahoogroups.com>

http://www.filmfare.com/articleshow/1076771.cms?&right=1&fright=1&botlink=1

Lo, Chaabiyan aa gayeen
Pancham Always had the last word

I'd always wanted to write songs that could be part of the narrative,
or in the form of a scene that could be set to music. Generally
speaking, songs are treated like item numbers in Hindi movies. The
story pauses for the song and then continues till the next song
arrives. I wanted to do something different.

Ek hi khwab kayee baar dekha hai maine from Kinara was one such
experiment. Though it never set a trend, it was well appreciated. It's
not a song, it's a scene that has been shot musically. It has lines
like, 'Tiku ki bacchi, will you shut up?'

When I took Ek hi khwab to Pancham, his first reaction was, "Kya hai
yeh... gaana hai ya scene hai?" I told him, "Yeh scene hai, par isse
gaana hai." At which, he smacked his forehead in exas- peration and
exclaimed, "Koi kaam seedha nahin karta hai."

After much grumbling, he deigned to read the song. He'd just reached
the second line when his frown deepened. The line was Tune sari mein
uddas li hain meri chaabiyan ghar ki. He pushed away his harmonium and
started off again, "Is this a song? Chaabiyan koi poetry hoti hai?"
Every time he hummed the tune, he'd stop at chaabiyan, grumble some
more and request me to change the word. But I was adamant. He tried
his best to make me change my mind but I didn't budge.

(For a long time after that, he'd address me as Chaabiyan. Every time
I entered his music room, he'd go, "Lo, Chaabiyan aa gayeen." And
after that incident, he'd get after me whenever I used an unusual
word. Which was quite often.)

The song was recorded in Hema Malini's and Bhupinder's voices. Now
Hema is very surili; she really sings well. And every time she'd sing
her lines, Bhupi would get upset. When he couldn't hold back any
longer, he burst out, "She's too good, yaar!"

(I'd seen something similar happening between Manna De and Meena
Kumari in Pinjare Ke Panchi. He wouldn't say anything to her but he'd
come up to me and the sound recordist and complain, "Yaar, it's very
difficult to sing in front of her. Main unko dekhoon, ya unse baat
karoon, ya gaana gaoon?

After we recorded Ek hi khwab, Pancham decided he wanted to add to
the song. So he just handed Bhupi a pair of headphones and told him to
strum his guitar spontaneously. Would you believe it; Bhupi did it in
one take. He asked for another take but Pancham felt the first was
perfect. That's why I always say that Pancham always had the last
word. He knew his job and you couldn't question him.

Next came the picturisation. The song was supposed to be a flashback
in the film and we wanted a star for a guest appearance. I was a
little embarrassed to ask Hema Malini to put in a word with
Dharmendra. Though their romance was already in the air, they were
still hush-hush about it and were still in the we-are-just-friends
stage. But when we were discussing the names of actors we could
approach, she surprised me by asking shyly, "Why my friend cannot play
that role?"

She didn't have to name him; you could read his name written all over
her face. So I called up Dharmendra and he agreed to do the role right
then, on the phone. I remain grateful to him for that; it was such a
beautiful gesture. I think he liked working with me, because one day
he asked me, "Kya guest role hi karvaoge mujhse? "
I told him we'd work together and offered him the title role in
Devdas. It was the role of a lifetime. Unfortunately the movie was
shelved after two schedules. I still feel he was the best choice for
that role. I never worked with him ever again. My dream of working
with Dharmendra ended there. Bas ek hi khwab kayee baar dekha maine...

Posted by: Talaikya Jun 23 2007, 06:54 PM

Goosebumps all over the place!!! Thank you

Posted by: bawlachintu Jun 23 2007, 10:03 PM

QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ Jun 23 2007, 12:48 PM)

RD always grumbled affectionately about this song and the "Mera Kuch Samaan Song" as two of the most eccentric tracks that he had to compose for Gulzar...Note the guitar strumming in the song... by Bhupinder...

Posted by: bawlachintu Jun 24 2007, 05:29 PM

Audio of " Ek hi khwab"

Gulzar ki commentary free

Film: Kinara
Singer: Bhupendra
Commentary: Gulzar

128/44.1 Duration: 8.11 min

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Posted by: bawlachintu Jun 24 2007, 05:48 PM

QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ May 18 2007, 04:31 AM)

QUOTE(bawlachintu @ May 17 2007, 07:40 AM)

Could sumone post lyrics of "Anki chali banki chali", please

Hmmm... Baanki Chali...mmm Jhaanki chali
Panta Bhate Tatka Begun Pora....
Aanki chali baanki chali
Chowringhee mein Jhanki Chali
Panta bhate tatka begun pora


Ek gali se jhumman nikle
Ek gali se jhuniya
Beech sadak pe ho gayi saari
Bhaad mein jaaye duniya
Jhoom jhoom ke jhoomke naache Jhuniya
Nache Jhuniya bai
Sau sau phere leve jhumman
Khoob baji shehnai...
Aanki chali...

Jhumman ke ghar beti janmi
Jhuniya jaise gaal
Mooch marod ke nikle Jhumman
Ja pahunche sasural(2)
Baat Baat Pe Khansi Bole
Paani Mange Aag(?)
Pyase mar gaye Jhumman miya
Par na chhodi taap
Aanki chali...

Jeem Se Jhumman Jheem Jalebi...
Jhumman Jhunniya Jeem
Har litti(?) ki patti padke
Jhumman hue hakeem
Phool phool ke phulka phule
Pichak pichak pichkari
Nimki lave katha chuna
Mithhu Paan Supari
Aanki chali...


Aaki chali baaki chali

BC you owe me for this one...had to play the song ten times at least to catch all the words... Your comments please...

Posted by: HumTum Jun 26 2007, 09:48 AM

http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=36175&view=findpost&p=384998

Khud se baatein karte --- Maya memsaab -- a rarely explored song. If someone can provide the lyrics and the meaning, I would appreciate. Thks.

Posted by: mmuk2004 Jun 28 2007, 06:54 PM

Maya Memsaab (1992)

khud se baatein karte rehna
Baatein karte rehna
Aankhen moonde din mein meethi
Raatein bharte rehna

Khudse kehna jaati hoon main
Khudse kehna aayi main
Aisa bhi to hota hai na
Behki si tanhai mein
Tanhai mein tasveeron ke
Chehre bharte rehna...

Bheege bheege mausam mein kyun
Bharkha pyaasi lagti hai
Jee to khush hota hai lekin
Ek Udasi rehti hai
Ay we hi bas roothi khud se
Ay wein man se(?) rehna...

Ketan Mehta's uneven film based on Flaubert's Madame Bovary. As often happens with adaptations, comparisons are inevitable. The story is about a bored house-wife with an overly romantic sensibility (in the novel she is shown as reading "romances" and Ketan Mehta innovatively changes it to Deepa Sahi's obsession with Hindi films). However, the book which is a sympathetic yet unrelenting critique of the romantic sensibility as well as an exposure of the emptiness of provincial life is sort of lost in the film which indulges in romantic and lush picturizations of Maya's dreams... I am not sure that using Gulzar as the lyricist of the movie was a strength or not...

In the song Maya's loneliness is evident but the perceptions (barkha pyaasi, tanhai mein tasveeron ke chehre bharte rehna...etc etc) seem more Gulzarish than the character's. And the same goes for the other superb songs in the movie... they don't fit with the character IMO...

A request: There is a short song in the movie by HMangeshkar: "Maya Jaagi Chhaya jaagi" . Could someone upload it please? TIA

Posted by: G.Nabee Jun 28 2007, 09:42 PM

QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ Jun 28 2007, 09:24 AM)

Posted by: mmuk2004 Jun 28 2007, 11:05 PM

QUOTE(G.Nabee @ Jun 28 2007, 11:12 AM)

QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ Jun 28 2007, 09:24 AM)

Maya Memsaab (1992)

...........................

A request: There is a short song in the movie by HMangeshkar: "Maya Jaagi Chhaya jaagi" . Could someone upload it please? TIA

Here it is:

Song: Maya Jaagi Chhaya jaagi
Film: Maya Memsaab (1993)
Singer: Hridayanath Mangeshkar
MD: Hridayanath Mangeshkar
Lyrics: Gulzar
Mp3, 128 kbps, 2.81 MB, 3m 04s

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Posted by: OMkar Jul 21 2007, 01:16 AM

QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ Jun 12 2007, 07:16 PM)

Posted by: anjvajay Jul 21 2007, 04:03 AM

QUOTE(OMkar @ Jul 21 2007, 01:16 AM)

QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ Jun 12 2007, 07:16 PM)

Uploading the rest of the songs

Jahan Tum Le Chalo - You Face(Gary Lawyer).mp3
128/4.08
Jahan Tum Le Chalo - Yeh Kaisi Chaap(Lata_SureshW).mp3
128/5.08
Jahan Tum Le Chalo - Thak Gayee Ho To(Lata_Suresh).mp3
128/4.41
Jahan Tum Le Chalo - Shauq Khwab Ka(Lata).mp3
128.4.04
Jahan Tum Le Chalo - Dekho To Aasman(Suresh).mp3
128/5.46
Jahan Tum Le Chalo - Atthanni Si Zindagi(Suresh).mp3
128/3.10

Ooooooooooooo Maaadhavijiiiii, Yeh Kya Kar Diya Aapne???? Itna Achha Ganaa Upload Kar Diya??? Kyon????? Oh, thank u soooo much much!!

Posted by: anjvajay Jul 21 2007, 03:54 PM

QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ Jun 12 2007, 07:16 PM)

Posted by: usrafian Jul 21 2007, 04:18 PM

QUOTE(anjvajay @ Jul 21 2007, 04:03 AM)

Posted by: anjvajay Jul 21 2007, 05:09 PM

Posted by: anjvajay Jul 21 2007, 10:56 PM

QUOTE(Mandrake @ May 17 2007, 11:45 AM)

Posted by: mmuk2004 Jul 21 2007, 11:12 PM

QUOTE(anjvajay @ Jul 21 2007, 05:24 AM)

QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ Jun 12 2007, 07:16 PM)

Uploading the rest of the songs

Jahan Tum Le Chalo - You Face(Gary Lawyer).mp3
128/4.08
Jahan Tum Le Chalo - Yeh Kaisi Chaap(Lata_SureshW).mp3
128/5.08
Jahan Tum Le Chalo - Thak Gayee Ho To(Lata_Suresh).mp3
128/4.41
Jahan Tum Le Chalo - Shauq Khwab Ka(Lata).mp3
128.4.04
Jahan Tum Le Chalo - Dekho To Aasman(Suresh).mp3
128/5.46
Jahan Tum Le Chalo - Atthanni Si Zindagi(Suresh).mp3
128/3.10

Madhavi,
Omkarji ne 'Jahan Tum Le Chalo' ki taraf dhyan khicha to maine ise fir se suna aur paya ki 'Thak Gayee Ho To' solo hai Suresh ki aawaz me, aur 'Yeh Kaisi Chaap' solo hai Vishal ki arddhangini(Rekha Bharadwaj) ki aawaz me.

Gulzar ne ek interview me 'Shauq Khwab Ka' ke Rekha version ka zikr kiya tha. Any chance?

Posted by: mmuk2004 Jul 21 2007, 11:22 PM

QUOTE(usrafian @ Jul 21 2007, 05:48 AM)

QUOTE(anjvajay @ Jul 21 2007, 04:03 AM)

Omkarji,
Gul chaho to niklo shoo-e-'Gulzar',
kabhi-kabhi.
Hardam na sahi, magar aye mare yaar,
kabhi-kabhi.

Bahut Khoob anjvajay Ji.

Aapne Bhi Tou Kucch Anmol Moti Bikher Rakhe Hain Apne Thread(on) Main.

Inaam Sahab Ek Gulzar Ki Kavita Ke Baare Mein Keh Rahe Thhey,
'Shaayed Ye Ho,
Shaayed Ye Hi Hogi' (Gulzarish-Style Main )

Subahaa-Subahaa Ek Khwaab Ke Dastak Par, Darwazaa Khola,
Dekha,
Sarhad Ke Us Par Se Kucch Mehmaan Aaye Hain,
Aankhon Se Mayuus Thhey Saare,
Chehere Saare Sune-Sunaaye.

Paanv Dhoye, Haath Dhulaaye,
Aangan Mein Aasan Lagwaaye,
Aur Tandoor Pe Makki Ke,
Kucch Mote-Mote Rott Pakaaye.

Potali Mein Mehman Mere,
Picchli Faslon Ka Guud Laaye Thhey,
Aankh Khul To Dekha,
Ghar Mein Koii Nahin Thaa,
Haath Lagaa Kar Dekha ,
To Tandoor Abhi Takk Buujha Nahin Thaa,
Aur Onthon Par Mitthe Guud Ka Zayeka,
Ab Takk Chhipak Rahaa Thaa.

Khwaab Thaa Shaayed.
Khwaab Hi Hoga.
Shab Par Sunaa Hai
Kal Raat Chhali Thi Goli,
Sarhad Par Sunaa Hai,
Kucch Khwaab Masood(?) Hua Hai.

Gulzaar Sahab Ki Awaaz Mein Bhi suno...

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USR

Posted by: anjvajay Jul 21 2007, 11:42 PM

QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ Jul 21 2007, 11:12 PM)

QUOTE(anjvajay @ Jul 21 2007, 05:24 AM)

QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ Jun 12 2007, 07:16 PM)

Uploading the rest of the songs

Jahan Tum Le Chalo - You Face(Gary Lawyer).mp3
128/4.08
Jahan Tum Le Chalo - Yeh Kaisi Chaap(Lata_SureshW).mp3
128/5.08
Jahan Tum Le Chalo - Thak Gayee Ho To(Lata_Suresh).mp3
128/4.41
Jahan Tum Le Chalo - Shauq Khwab Ka(Lata).mp3
128.4.04
Jahan Tum Le Chalo - Dekho To Aasman(Suresh).mp3
128/5.46
Jahan Tum Le Chalo - Atthanni Si Zindagi(Suresh).mp3
128/3.10

Madhavi,
Omkarji ne 'Jahan Tum Le Chalo' ki taraf dhyan khicha to maine ise fir se suna aur paya ki 'Thak Gayee Ho To' solo hai Suresh ki aawaz me, aur 'Yeh Kaisi Chaap' solo hai Vishal ki arddhangini(Rekha Bharadwaj) ki aawaz me.

Gulzar ne ek interview me 'Shauq Khwab Ka' ke Rekha version ka zikr kiya tha. Any chance?

Ajay,

Just checked the "Thak Gayee Ho" song, it is not a duet but a solo. I got all the song info from Ultra-India and had not checked against the songs. No, I am afraid I don't have the Rekha solo.

Madhavi

Posted by: jairaj Jul 26 2007, 05:52 AM

I missed Roz Akeli AAye Roz Akeli Jaaye
Can someone please upload for me Thanks in anticipation.

Posted by: mmuk2004 Jul 26 2007, 09:34 PM

QUOTE(anjvajay @ Jul 21 2007, 01:12 PM)

Posted by: anjvajay Jul 26 2007, 10:38 PM

QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ Jul 26 2007, 09:34 PM)

QUOTE(anjvajay @ Jul 21 2007, 01:12 PM)

Speaking of Desh Deepak's 'first' then, the song 'Aththanni Si Zindagi' seems to stand out

The lyrics of the song complement its lilting melody and beat. The song is about life's spontanaeity.
But more lasting, I think, will be the song Jhooth Bolta Hai Roz Roz Aaina, sung by Lataji and then again by Rekha Bhardwaj. It has more depth.

You've teamed up with Vishal regularly since you first worked with him on the theme song of the serial, 'Daane Anaar Ke'. What is so special about his music?

I was responsible for giving him his first feature film break - we did Maachis together. He brought melody back into music when there was only beat. In Jahan Tum... too, it's his melody that holds you.

Will music always be dear to the Indian Audience?

Music has a natural place in our lives. Right from the shlok you recite in your morning puja and the milkman who comes whistling on his cycle, to the fakir singing as he begs for alms and your mother humming around the kitchen...music fills our spaces naturally.
it will always be dear to us.

Ajay, here are the lyrics of "Jhooth Bolta Hai" Jahan Tum Le Chalo

Shauk khwab ka hai aur neend aaye na
Jhooth bolta hai roz roz aaina

Saans jo sulagti hai(2)
To aankh jalti hai
Kya pata ye dil ki hai ya meri galti hai
Kisko main mana karoon dhuwan udaye na
Jhooth bolta hai...

Nukhta cheen hai dil mera(2)
mujhe sukoon nahin
Main kahoon ke yoon to dil kahe ke yun nahin
Jaanti hoon sab magar samajh mein aaye na
Jhooth bolta hai

Thoughful lyrics again...when Gulzar does not become too fanciful, his lyrics seem so descriptive of the cotrariness of real emotions as it is here... "Main kahoon ke yun to dil kahe ke yun nahin/Janti hoon sab magar samajh mein aaye na" or for that matter "saans jo sulagti hai/to aankh jalti hai" . Lata's voice does not sound too great though and it would indeed be interesting to hear a fresh voice singing this song. From the reviews of the film it seems however that the film was pretentious and boring... what a terrible combination!!!

Posted by: bawlachintu Oct 8 2007, 09:01 PM

Ek akela is shehar mein

Film: Gharonda
Music: Jaidev
Voice:Bhupendra

Duration: 5.04 Specs: 128/44.1

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Posted by: pinky Oct 8 2007, 09:27 PM

QUOTE(bawlachintu @ Oct 8 2007, 09:01 PM)

Posted by: HarshBhatt Oct 13 2007, 07:28 PM

Guddi (1971)

Actors : Amitabh Bachchan, Ashok Kumar, Dharmendra, Jaya Bachchan, Sunita sanyal, Vijay Sharma
Director : Hrishikesh Mukherjee
Lyrics : Gulzar
Music Director : Vasant Desai
Producer : Sippy N C
Singer : Vani Jairam
Theme : Family Drama
Year : 1971


1.Bol Re Papihara 03:35

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2.Hari Bin Kaise Jivoon Re 03:29

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3.Hum Ko Man Ki Shakti Dena 04:29

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Posted by: mannu kumar Feb 12 2008, 02:27 PM

hi you have uploaded the songs of jahan tum le chalo and very very thanks for that as i have searched the whole internet for the it and is availabel nowhere except here. i have very special memory associated with the song.... well but can u tell me how to download the song tee seem to be link

Posted by: savitarajan Feb 13 2008, 12:47 PM

Hi,

Amitabh is not seen in this movie. He was in the cast initially and i think did a few shots too. Hrishida had wanted a new face for the hero and had to cast Sumit Sanyal (correction)since Anand got released earlier.

FYI

Savita

QUOTE(HarshBhatt @ Oct 13 2007, 08:28 PM)

Posted by: mmuk2004 Mar 21 2008, 06:32 AM

Masoom (1982)

Huzoor is kadar bhi na itra ke chaliye
Khule aam aanchal na lehra ke chaliye

Koi manchala gar pakad lega aanchal
Zara sochiye aap kya keejiyega
Laga de agar badh kar zulfon mein kaliyan
To kya apni zulphein jhatak deejiyega...

Badi dil nasheen hain hasee ki ye ladiyan
Ye moti magar na bikhraya keejye
Uda ke na le jaye jhonka hawa ka
Lachakta badan yun na lehraya keejye

Bahut khoobsurat hai har baat lekin
Agar dil bhi hota to kya baat hoti
Likhi jaati phir dastaan-e-mohabbat
Ek afsane jaisi mulakat hoti

Sophisticated flirting... gorgeous song and superb lyrics... The affluent buisness man Naseer is partying at a close friend's(Saeed Jaffrey) house and they are both slightly drunk reminscing about their youth. They sing together teasing Shabana(Naseer's wife) who is both amused and annoyed... note the subtle interplay of moods in the song. Shekhar Kapoor, when he manages to finish any movie makes it so nuanced, in the case of Masoom, I find it superior to the original book, Man, Woman and Child.

Gulzar is superb in his use of "aap" ...remember his "Aap ki aankhon Mein kuch...and aap ki badmashiyan." The song moves forward in suggestive playful threats, that flatter the girl...umm....as long as it is not realised .

Koi manchala gar pakad lega aanchal
Zara sochiye aap kya keejiyega
Laga de agar badh kar zulfon mein kaliyan
To kya apni zulphein jhatak deejiyega...

When finally Shabana is annoyed, note the bantering, beautiful lines...

"Bahut khoobsurat hai har baat lekin
Agar dil bhi hota ko kya baat hoti..."

Note the use of tabla, unusual always for Pancham, with the wonderful guitar and is that a santoor in the pauses? I wonder if Bhupendra also played the guitar for the song.

Check out the vid... saw it after a long time... it has not dated one little bit.

Posted by: mmuk2004 Apr 5 2008, 10:27 PM

Lekin(1991)


Kesariya baalma, o ri
Bawri bole log
Na main jiuti na mariyo main
Birha mharo rog re
Bawri bole log, log re...

Chadte din ki aanch batorun
Til til, til til sab jal jaun
Dhalte sanjh ki rakh kuredun
Ret mein sab ral jaye, sab ral jay
Na mil payi na bichadi main
Kaiso ye sanjog re
Bawri bole log re...

Maaru thal ki laambi chhaiyyan
Nis din, nis din kuch likh jaun
Mero sandeso koi suna jo
Jis ko wo, jis ko wo, dikh jaye
Preet ko dekhen nagri wale
Peed na dekhen log re
Bawri bole log re...

The song (based on 'rag' maand) plays with the opening credits of the film and sets its tone. A soul trapped between life and death, unable to escape.... "Na main jevti na mariyo main/birha mharo rog re/bawri bole log." And the last stanza captures the poetry of the entire movie...in the long shadows of the desert, I write something everyday... if someone could hear my message they would see it... "Preet ko dekhen nagri wale/peed na dekhen log re," they do not see the pain behind the romance... the entire movie is about this, a soul trapped in pain, and the man who relives that experience entrapped by it in his turn...

Posted by: mmuk2004 Apr 5 2008, 10:29 PM

Love this movie...it is a confused hotch potch of all kinds of theories of parapsychology, rebirth and ghost literature. But it works...or, at for me, it did. It is a movie full of implausible suggestions, but they are so evocative that they hold you enthralled, enriched by a rather barren, alien landscape of sharply etched sandunes, a gorgeous Dimple, holding you with her pain-filled eyes, those fascinating songs and a story that comes alive through Gulzar's dialogues that are a wierd mix of modern pragmatism and extreme romanticism.

Vinod Khanna is a government officer in the archeological department, who is fascinated with antiques. The movie begins with him fiddling with an old lock and key forgetting everything in his concentration. He is sent to a remote village in Rajasthan to evaluate and restore an old building, and on the train he is cautioned by a traveller not to cut his nails... it invites ghosts, he warns Khanna. The next shot has Dimple who seems to have arrived from nowhere in his compartment and who disappears rather mysteriously. (yes, I know, typical bhoot elements of hindi films... but you have to see Dimple's expression and that train as it pulls to a stop at a remote station in the middle of the night...I am reminded so strongly of those old days when we would travel as students and the train would sometimes stop at a remote station in the middle of the night and we would get glimpses of places we would never see again.)

The next shot is sharply realistic, he meets up with an old college friend (Amjad Khan) who is the local big wig, an IAS officer who is pretty much in charge of the village. Vinod Khanna stays at at the guest house and at Amjad's place, the casual scenes thrown in between their interactions... reveal so much detail. Gulzar, quietly shows a Hindu-Muslim couple, and the perfect harmony in which they live. Amjad reads his namaz and Bina Rai(?) is heavily decked up as a traditional Hindu married woman sporting a big bindi. Wish the movie had more of Amjad, he is lives the role of an IAS officer in a small village, who is familiar with the territory and is experienced in handling difficult situations...It is such a non-dramatic role which Amjad plays with an extremely nuanced ease.

to be contd.

Posted by: mmuk2004 Apr 5 2008, 10:33 PM

Part 1: Lekin (with the Kesariya song)




and Part 2:

Posted by: saagarmenon May 10 2008, 08:49 PM

IS there is better quality of the hapy version of dil dhoondtha hai available?