Gulzar - The Lyricist - The Genius, Songs, Albums & Discussion Options Rating

[usrafian]

ThankU Madhavi Ji for your comment .

Very nice description of theme behind 'Mere Apne'.

Let's wait for 'mesmerising spell' from our magician-the great (about Gulzar's poetry, he had mentioned) !!!

Aadtan Tumne Kar Diye Vaade,
Aadtan Humne Aitbar Kiya .

USR

[shaibaal]

Shaibaal,

Thank you for the prompt upload... in the past week I badgered another group for this song... and got the SDB version and have been listening to it ever since. Beautiful rendition... So now for some further demands... how about a translation of the song and some info on Nazrul geeti(your source will not be revealed... )... Most of the web information on Nazrul geeti end up giving basically biographical details about Kazi Nazul Islam.

On another note... did not know it had been sung by AB too (wonder who provided the music), I was told that Manna Dey also sang a version of the same song. The "Main Albeli" track from Buzdil is also based on this song (source:Srinivas).

Madhavi,

You can listen to the Asha Bhonsle version here -

http://www.esnips.com/doc/67dc73c4-bbd1-4c...HLA-NISHI-BHORE

SD's version is indeed wonderful. About translations, what you need is a poetic one and not the literal one - and I don't have the necessary skills with the language - actually any language.

I am a huge fan of Nazrul Geeti. Unlike his illustrious contemporary, he had very modest means. The language of his poetry therefore is not of the same (for want of a better word) 'class' but more down to earth. Works for me! Also, he used almost 200 ragas for his compositions and also invented a few of his own. There is more - but maybe I should start a thread in the Bangla section with a few of my favorites....

[mmuk2004]

Madhavi,

You can listen to the Asha Bhonsle version here -

http://www.esnips.com/doc/67dc73c4-bbd1-4c...HLA-NISHI-BHORE

SD's version is indeed wonderful. About translations, what you need is a poetic one and not the literal one - and I don't have the necessary skills with the language - actually any language.

I am a huge fan of Nazrul Geeti. Unlike his illustrious contemporary, he had very modest means. The language of his poetry therefore is not of the same (for want of a better word) 'class' but more down to earth. Works for me! Also, he used almost 200 ragas for his compositions and also invented a few of his own. There is more - but maybe I should start a thread in the Bangla section with a few of my favorites....

Shaibaal,

Thank you for the link for the Asha version... the tune's been jazzed up a bit... I prefer the SDB version.

Please, please do start a thread on Nazrul Geeti in the Bangla forum... would love to listen to some of your favorites along with a little bit of a write-up for the uninitiated...like me...

[mmuk2004]

Can someone please post the lyrics of "Haal Chal Theek Thaak Hai"

[Hari Ram]

I have a question on Gulzar's Aandhi movie.
I thought this movie was banned during Indira Gandhi's emergency era.
When the movie reappeared, did they cut out any songs or scenes?

Hari Ram

[Hari Ram]

Can someone please post the lyrics of "Haal Chal Theek Thaak Hai"

MMUK2004,

Here is the Mere Apne song lyrics. I haven't verified it's accuracy.

haal chaal Thiik Thaak hai, sab kuchh Thiik Thaak hai
##B.A.## kiyaa hai, ##B.A.## kiyaa, lagataa hai vo bhii ay.nvay.n kiyaa
kaam nahii.n hai varanaa yahaa.N aap kii du_aa is sab Thiik Thaak hai

aab\-o\-havaa
aab\-o\-havaa desh kii bahut saaf hai
kaayadaa hai, kaanuun hai, inasaaf hai
allaah miyaa.N jaane koii jiye yaa mare
aadamii ko khuun vuun sab maaf hai
aur kyaa kahuu.N, chhoTii moTii chorii
rish{}vat khorii detii hai apanaa guzaaraa yahaa.N
aap kii du_aa se baakii Thiik Thaak hai

gol mol roTii kaa pahiyaa chalaa \- 2
piichhe piichhe chaa.Ndii kaa rupaiyaa chalaa
roTii ko bechaarii ko chiil le gayii (oh terii)
chaa.Ndii le ke mu.Nh kaalaa kauvaa chalaa
aur kyaa kahuu.N, maut kaa tamaashaa
chalaa hai betahaashaa, jiine kii furasat nahii.n hai yahaa.N
aap kii du_aa se baakii Thiik Thaak hai ##(very good)##

[mmuk2004]

I have a question on Gulzar's Aandhi movie.
I thought this movie was banned during Indira Gandhi's emergency era.
When the movie reappeared, did they cut out any songs or scenes?

Hari Ram

Hari Ram ji,

Please call me Madhavi... okay googled and got this from a site:

Before Aandhi was banned during emergency by then govt (congress) it showed Suchitra Sen's character smoking and having a drink. Upon it's next release Gulzar was forced to cut these scenes. Gulzar needs to release the original version restoring all those cuts.

Here is a cut and paste from P1j's post in HF on Gulzar's Aandhi:

(link: http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?showtopic=16880)

Nov 5 2005, 01:16 AM Post #1


‘Do you have any idea of sur and taal?’ How aandhi got its songs - Gulzar
[Published in Latest Filmfare]

Time for a flashback once again. Since November 6 marks the 20th death anniversary of Sanjeev Kumar, I’ve chosen one of Sanjeev’s and my favourite films, Aandhi, as the topic of this month’s conversation.

In a way, Sanjeev and I grew up together. I knew him from his early National Theatre days. I was associated with IPTA (Indian People’s Theatre Association) and we’d often meet while rehearsing at the Bhulabhai auditorium in Mumbai. Sanjeev had played the old man in All My Sons, with Leela Chitnis playing his wife, and he must have been just 22 or 23 when he played the character. The best compliment he received was from Prithviraj Kapoor who asked him after the show, “Who was that old man?” Sanjeev was thrilled that the thespian himself hadn’t recognised him.

As far as I was concerned, Sanjeev Kumar was born an old man for me and he played a role much beyond his age the very first time he worked with me, in Parichay. If you’ve observed, his age group and costumes were almost the same in both Mausam and Aandhi. And yet how differently he portrayed the two characters. This is something budding actors must learn from him —changing a costume is not enough to play a different character.

So how did Aandhi come about? The story started with J Om Prakash, who wanted to make a film with Sanjeev Kumar and Suchitra Sen. He asked me to direct it. Sachin Bhowmick, who’d written the story, narrated it to me, in the presence of Sanjeev Kumar and Omji. But I felt the heroine’s role didn’t do justice to Suchitraji’s talent. I told them, if this is the story you want to make, there’s no need to trouble Suchitraji. Any actress could do the role. To my pleasant surprise, Sachinda agreed with me.

The question then arose: What should we make? I told them I’d think about a story. And came up with a synopsis revolving around a politician who arrives at a hotel to discover the hotel manager is her estranged husband. To begin with the husband is very traditional, conservative. He doesn’t like his wife going out to work. But towards the end, he realises his mistake. So when the wife tells him she wants to give up her career, he tells her, “No, you have a duty to the nation. I don’t want to see you defeated—at home or outside it. I’m there with you.” The change in the husband drives the point home that a woman has as much right to go out as the man.

Contrary to popular opinion, my story wasn’t based on Indira Gandhi’s life. It had nothing to do with Indiraji. She was just the role model for the lady politician. Frankly, who better could there be? She was such a dynamic lady.

But one theatre publicised the movie with the line, “See the Prime Minister of India.” Filmfare published a photograph of that theatre and a controversy erupted. The Emergency was on and the movie was banned in its 23rd week. I was in Moscow with the print of the film when I got the news. We tried our best to get the ban revoked and J Omji pursued the matter relentlessly.

We were then asked to make a few changes in the movie. It was suggested that the protagonist, ie Suchitraji, should declare in the film that she’s a great fan of Indiraji’s. So the scene was added on, to make it clear that Suchitraji isn’t Indira Gandhi. And we got it passed by Indiraji’s government.


But Indira Gandhi lost the elections soon after. Some people asked me to revert to my original movie. But I said, it’s just a matter of time before she comes back. And that’s exactly what happened—she was back after two years.

One interesting aspect that was brought to my notice after the movie was ready was that there’s just one female character in the entire film! There’s a mention of her daughter but you never see her. I hadn’t realised that, Omji hadn’t, even the actors hadn’t!

But Sanjeev Kumar complained, “Yaar, every time I hear your script, you tell me it’s my film, but when I see the movie, to heroine ki hoti hai.” But I personally thought the movie belonged to both Sanjeev and Suchitra. If the story is about a husband and wife, how can it be just the wife’s story? I remember that when Meghna was making Filhaal, several heroes rejected the movie because they felt pregnancy is a woman’s problem. How can pregnancy be a woman’s problem without a man being involved? Similarly, in Aandhi, it’s just that the woman is the cause of conflict, so it seems as if the focus
is on her.

The music of Aandhi was a big high for Pancham and me. In the song Is mod se jaate hain kuch sust kadam raste, there’s a line Patthar ki haveli ko sheeshe ke gharondon mein, tinkon ke nasheman tak. After he’d composed the song, I found Pancham deep in thought. Suddenly, he asked me, “Gullu, where is this nasheman?” He thought it was the name of some place that the roads led to. I had to tell him that nasheman meant a ghosla or nest.
Cut to when we were shooting the song. This time it was Sanjeev’s turn to ask me the same question. “I’ve never had to ask the meaning of any lyrics. But what does nasheman mean?” he queried.

As for Tere bina zindagi se, it simply happened one day at Pancham’s house. I had dropped in and found him composing a tune for a Durga Pooja album with Gauri Prassano, one of Bengal’s top lyricists. The lyrics went something like Amar deri holo je. I was so struck by the tune that I just started writing Hindi lyrics for it even as they were polishing it. After Gaurida left, Pancham asked me, “Now what do you want me to compose for you?” I told him, “Yehi gaana karenge.”

So we kept the original tune for the mukhda, and he composed something else for the antara. But when I inserted some dialogue into the lyrics, Pancham scolded me, “Do you have any idea of sur and taal? You cut in with your dialogue anywhere you want. It’s not done!” But we did it!

Lyrics >>>>
of Tere bina zindagi se
Tere bina zindagi se koi
shikwa toh nahin, shikwa nahin,
shikwa nahin, shikwa nahin
Tere bina zindagi bhi lekin zindagi toh nahin, zindagi nahin,
zindagi nahin, zindagi nahin

Tere bina. zindagi se koi
shikwa toh nahin...

Kaash aisa ho tere kadamon se
Chunke manzil chalein,
aur kahin, door kahin—2
Tum agar saath ho,
manzilon ki kami to nahin
Tere bina zindagi se koi
shikwa toh nahin, shikwa nahin
shikwa nahin, shikwa nahin

Ji mein aata hai tere daman mein
Sar chupake hum
rote rahen, rote rahen—2
Teri bhi aankhon mein aansooyon ki nami toh nahin

Tere bina zindagi se koi shikwa toh nahin...

Tum jo keh do to aaj ki raat
Chaand dubega nahin,
raat ko rok lo—2
Raat ki baat hai aur zindagi baki toh nahin
Tere bina zindagi se koi
shikwa toh nahin...

[Hari Ram]

I have a question on Gulzar's Aandhi movie.
I thought this movie was banned during Indira Gandhi's emergency era.
When the movie reappeared, did they cut out any songs or scenes?

Hari Ram

Hari Ram ji,

Please call me Madhavi... okay googled and got this from a site:

Before Aandhi was banned during emergency by then govt (congress) it showed Suchitra Sen's character smoking and having a drink. Upon it's next release Gulzar was forced to cut these scenes. Gulzar needs to release the original version restoring all those cuts.

Here is a cut and paste from P1j's post in HF on Gulzar's Aandhi:

(link: http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?showtopic=16880)

Madhavi,

Sure, hence forth I will remember your first name.
My user name is one of those that doesn't carry a 'ji'.

Thanks for fetching the article on Aandhi so quickly. After you mention about the female character's smoking and drinking scenes, I recollect some parts of the movie. A few years ago, I watched this movie from a VCD.
I don't recollect seeing Suchitra Sen smoking or taking liquor. But there is scene where Sanjeev Kumar jokingly asks her if she would like a Coca Cola. Then the scene leads to a flash back of Suchitra Sen having a DUI accident.

Hari Ram

[Mandrake]

Is mod se jaate hain.... is loosely based on a poem written by Gulzar. It is said that the poem was written more in quiet angst than happiness. It was the time when his relationship with Rakhee was strained.

Us mod pe baitha hoon
jis mode se jaati hain
har ek taraf raahen...

Ik roz toh yoon hoga
jis mod pe baitha hoon
us mod pe aakar tum
ruk jaaogi, keh dogi
woh kaunsa raasta hai
jis raah se jaana hai...

[mmuk2004]

Thanks for fetching the article on Aandhi so quickly. After you mention about the female character's smoking and drinking scenes, I recollect some parts of the movie. A few years ago, I watched this movie from a VCD.
I don't recollect seeing Suchitra Sen smoking or taking liquor. But there is scene where Sanjeev Kumar jokingly asks her if she would like a Coca Cola. Then the scene leads to a flash back of Suchitra Sen having a DUI accident.

Hari Ram

Hari Ram,

Thank you for the lyrics of "Haal chaal"...

Wow aapki memory ki daad deni hogi... Just saw parts of Aandhi again and you remembered that scene very accurately... I think Gulzar added the "blame it on coca cola" scene later on in the movie (for those who don't remember, Suchitra Sen comes in drunk into a hotel where Sanjeev is the asst. manager and he gets her a room and then has to put her in bed when she goes off to sleep in the bathroom with the taps running). Suchitra later explains to him that her coca-cola had been laced with drinks... and there is a brief flash back of an obligingly stray villain lacing her drinks... However, must say that one is rather glad that Gulzar added that scene, if it allowed him to keep the drunk scene with Suchitra and Sanjeev intact...it is such a wonderfully executed one... their first meeting...

[mmuk2004]

Is mod se jaate hain.... is loosely based on a poem written by Gulzar. It is said that the poem was written more in quiet angst than happiness. It was the time when his relationship with Rakhee was strained.

Us mod pe baitha hoon
jis mode se jaati hain
har ek taraf raahen...

Ik roz toh yoon hoga
jis mod pe baitha hoon
us mod pe aakar tum
ruk jaaogi, keh dogi
woh kaunsa raasta hai
jis raah se jaana hai...

Suhas,

That poem set me thinking about just how much of autobiography you can read into a work of art... I never realised it before or maybe I am reading too much into it now but it does seem that Aandhi has fairly strong autobiographical elements in in.

Went back to Aandhi after years...Sanjeev Kumar is an amateur poet in the movie a fact that crops up at various points in the movie. and then I read a comment in some review of Meghna Gulzar's book on her father (which is apparently mentioned in the book) that Gulzar's fixed routines and his "lights-out-at-ten" schedule had provoked Rakhee to say "Agar aap shayar na hote to bade hi ordinary hote"

Check this out...

Suchitra on the phone listening to Sanjeev's recitation...wonderful love scene laced with just the right blend of realism and humor that comes alive in the perfect inflections brought to it by Sanjeev and Suchitra.


Sanjeev:
Aao tumko utha loon kandhon par
Tum uchak kar shareer hothon se
Choom lena ye chand ka matha...

Aaj ki raat dekha na tumne
Kaise jhuk jhuk ke kohiyon ke bal
Chand itna kareeb aaya hai...

Suchitra:Beautiful..wonderful..
Sanjeev: acchi hai na
Suchitra:Bahut hi acchi hai
Sanjeev:Pata hai... jab tum achha kehti ho... to bahut hi accha lagta hai.
Suchitra:Tumhari saath ye kavita na hoti na, to tum bahut hi ordinary aadmi hote.
Sanjeev:Kaise na hoti... barah saal ka tha jab mushairon mein padhna shuru kiya tha

(Btw, this "barah saal ki umr mein kar liya tha" is Sanjeev's pet brag line in the movie...)

Suchitra:Tumne Saare kaam barah saal ke umr mein kar liye the
Sanjeev: Haan saare kaam barah saal ke umr mein kar liye the...siwaye shaadi ke...
Suchitra: Woh kyun nahin kiya...
Sanjeev:Tum jo nahin mili warna woh bhi kar leta...
Suchitra:Bach gaye tum... nahin to kunware hi reh jaate...

This scene leads to the other classic duet of Aandhi

Tum Aa Gaye Ho Noor Aa Gaya Hai
Nahin to charagon se lau ja rahi thi
Jeene ki tumse vajah mil gayee hai
Badi bevajah zindagi ja rahi thi

Kahan se chale kahan ke liye
Ye Khabar nahin thi magar
Koi bhi sira jahan ja mila
Wohin tum miloge
Ki hum tak tumhari dua aa rahi thi

Din duba nahin raat dubi nahin
Jaane Kaisa hai safar
Khwabon ke diye aankhon mein liye
Wahin aa rahe the
Jahan se tumhari sada aa rahi thi

Tum aa gaye ho...

All the three magnificent duets of Aandhi are redolent with an intense sense of regret, of loss...not just the "Tere Bina Zindagi Se" song but even the two other songs that are used as romantic duets... For some reason I have always been disappointed with the picturization of the songs..."Ke hum tak tumhari dua aa rahi thi..." such an evocative song... beautifully sung and beautifully composed... seems rather wasted when used in a very ordinary way with Suchitra and Sanjeev strolling along some ruins or mountains with sundry, close-up shots of flowers or an eagle circling the sky...Similarly with the "Is mod Se Jaate Hain" song... the lyrics of the song are somewhat sombre "Ye soch ke baithi hoon/Ik raah to woh hogi/Tum tak jo pohachti hai... " similar in tone with the poem really (Ik roz toh yoon hoga/jis mod pe baitha hoon/us mod pe aakar tum/ruk jaaogi). It fits rather uncomfortably in the movie as a romantic duet...


While it is silly to look for exact parallels from Gulzar's life in Aandhi, the movie is heavy with the sense of a regret about a relationship gone wrong. The regret is expressed in the lyrics and dialogues and not really explored analytically in the movie...and for some reason the brouhaha over Aandhi's political parallels with Indira Gandhi's life mutes these other more personal parallels with Gulzar's life.

[mmuk2004]

Jahan Tum Le Chalo (1999)
Vishal Bharadwaj

Jahan Tum Le Chalo - Atthanni Si Zindagi.mp3
Suresh Wadkar
128/3.10

Gulzar's musings on Life... Kabhi Chand Ki Tarah tapki, kabhi raah mein padi paayi atthani si zindagi...

The page is dying on me...will upload the rest of the album later.

[mmuk2004]

Here are the lyrics of the song... could not catch some of the words though...

Kabhi Chand ki tarah tapki
Kabhi Raah Mein Padi paayi
Attanni Si Zindagi ye zindagi
Kabhi Cheenk Ki tarah Khanki
Kabhi Jeb Se Nikal Aayi
Attani Si Zindagi...

Kabhi Chehre Pe Jadi Dekhi
Kahin Mod Pe Khadi Dekhi
Sheeshe ke martbano(?) mein
Dukano Pe Padi Dekhi
Chaukanni Si Zindagi
Ye Zindagi...

(?) Laga Ke Milti Hai
Masoomiyat Se Khilti Hai
Kabhi (?) haath mein lekar
Shakhon Pe Baithi Hilti Hai
Nahni si Zindagi yeh zindagi

[mmuk2004]

Uploading the rest of the songs

Jahan Tum Le Chalo - You Face(Gary Lawyer).mp3
128/4.08
Jahan Tum Le Chalo - Yeh Kaisi Chaap(Lata_SureshW).mp3
128/5.08
Jahan Tum Le Chalo - Thak Gayee Ho To(Lata_Suresh).mp3
128/4.41
Jahan Tum Le Chalo - Shauq Khwab Ka(Lata).mp3
128.4.04
Jahan Tum Le Chalo - Dekho To Aasman(Suresh).mp3
128/5.46
Jahan Tum Le Chalo - Atthanni Si Zindagi(Suresh).mp3
128/3.10

[Hari Ram]

Here are the lyrics of the song... could not catch some of the words though...

Kabhi Chand ki tarah tapki
Kabhi Raah Mein Padi paayi
Attanni Si Zindagi ye zindagi
Kabhi Cheenk Ki tarah Khanki
Kabhi Jeb Se Nikal Aayi
Attani Si Zindagi...

Kabhi Chehre Pe Jadi Dekhi
Kahin Mod Pe Khadi Dekhi
Sheeshe ke martbano(?) mein
Dukano Pe Padi Dekhi
Chaukanni Si Zindagi
Ye Zindagi...

(?) Laga Ke Milti Hai
Masoomiyat Se Khilti Hai
Kabhi (?) haath mein lekar
Shakhon Pe Baithi Hilti Hai
Nahni si Zindagi yeh zindagi

Madhavi,

Thanks for these songs. I am not familiar with this song; but happened to have the lyrics.

I have the questionable words as follows:
'Sheeshe ke martbaanon'
'tamage lagaake milte hai ...'
'kabhi phool haath mein lekar ...'

Hari Ram