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post Sep 11 2010, 08:14 PM
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Faraaj,

I have not lost that other song too, after all!!!

Here it goes!!

""Jab Se Nabi Aankhon Mein--Yeh Haal Hai Mera Kursat Mein" --Islamic Devotional-Rafi (Identical to the Jadoo-1951--"Pyar Ke Sagar" song)



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PS. The other one requested by you is in my previous post!!

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post Sep 12 2010, 04:43 AM
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QUOTE(Faraaj73 @ Sep 11 2010, 06:20 PM) *

1. "Hue Hum Jin Ke Liye Barbaad"--Film:Deedar(1951)--MD:Naushad--Rafi

2. "Basi Hai Dil Mein Nabi Ki Yaad"--Islamic Naat--Rafi


1. "Pyar Ke Sagar Se Nikli--Ek Jhoot Hai Jis Ka Duniya Ne"--Film:Jadoo(1951)--MD:Naushad--Rafi

2. "Jab Se Nabi Aankhon Mein--Yeh Haal Hai Mera Kursat Mein" --Islamic Devotional-Rafi

Appreciate if some member (probably Venkat) can kindly upload the two Islamic versions of the famous Naushad compositions.



Thanks Venkat

Now I know what you mean by identically tuned!!! Based on the voice I'd suggest these two recordings, which are lovely by the way, can't have been recorded much after the original filmic rendering. Good stuff!

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post Sep 12 2010, 06:53 AM
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QUOTE(Faraaj73 @ Sep 12 2010, 04:43 AM) *

QUOTE(Faraaj73 @ Sep 11 2010, 06:20 PM) *

1. "Hue Hum Jin Ke Liye Barbaad"--Film:Deedar(1951)--MD:Naushad--Rafi

2. "Basi Hai Dil Mein Nabi Ki Yaad"--Islamic Naat--Rafi


1. "Pyar Ke Sagar Se Nikli--Ek Jhoot Hai Jis Ka Duniya Ne"--Film:Jadoo(1951)--MD:Naushad--Rafi

2. "Jab Se Nabi Aankhon Mein--Yeh Haal Hai Mera Kursat Mein" --Islamic Devotional-Rafi

Appreciate if some member (probably Venkat) can kindly upload the two Islamic versions of the famous Naushad compositions.



Thanks Venkat

Now I know what you mean by identically tuned!!! Based on the voice I'd suggest these two recordings, which are lovely by the way, can't have been recorded much after the original filmic rendering. Good stuff!



You are right, Faraaj, that both the songs in these pairs are of the same period!! But, that said, we are not sure whether the Islamic one is first or the film one is first!!

For your information, in all these eleven pairs that this thread has 'discovered' or identified, both the songs are almost identically tuned, not just in parts, but in the complete songs, ie. both in mukhdas and antaras!!!! That is what makes these pairs special!!

Otherwise, you see lots and lots of songs which are similar in parts with some other songs, but NOT IDENTICAL with the other song on mukhda as well as antara!!!

Venkat

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post Sep 13 2010, 05:11 AM
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Venkatji, I know two more identical pairs:

1. Islamic Devotional Song - Chalo Baghdad Chalo - Mohd.Rafi & Unknown Female Singer
Pakeezah - Chalo Dildaar Chalo - Mohd.Rafi & Lata Mangeshkar


2. Shaadi Se Pehle (1980) - Teri Saanson Mein Kaisi Khushboo Hai - Mohd.Rafi & Asha Bhonsle (MD - Sapan Jagmohan)
Teri Talaash Mein - Koi Deewana Tujhe Chaahega - Mohd.Rafi & Asha Bhonsle (MD - Sapan Jagmohan)

Both have identical Mukhdas n Anatars. If you need any of these songs, I'll send you em via email.
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post Sep 13 2010, 09:06 AM
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QUOTE(Anupama @ Sep 13 2010, 05:11 AM) *

Venkatji, I know two more identical pairs:

1. Islamic Devotional Song - Chalo Baghdad Chalo - Mohd.Rafi & Unknown Female Singer
Pakeezah - Chalo Dildaar Chalo - Mohd.Rafi & Lata Mangeshkar


2. Shaadi Se Pehle (1980) - Teri Saanson Mein Kaisi Khushboo Hai - Mohd.Rafi & Asha Bhonsle (MD - Sapan Jagmohan)
Teri Talaash Mein - Koi Deewana Tujhe Chaahega - Mohd.Rafi & Asha Bhonsle (MD - Sapan Jagmohan)

Both have identical Mukhdas n Anatars. If you need any of these songs, I'll send you em via email.


Anu, please do send me 1. Koi Deewana Tujhe Chahega and 2. Islamic--Chalo Baghdad Chalo


Thanks,

Venkat

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Venkkatji, I just sent you both the audios.

I'm listening to Chalo Baghdad Chalo.... It doesn't sound like Rafi sahab to me but I got it from Rafi sahab's Islamic CD. Whoever is singing this sounds like him. It could be Rafi sahab and the audio is just not clear enuf for one to be certain that it is him. Kindly listen to it and tell me what you think.

This site also mentions Rafi sahab as the singer:
http://www.getacd.es/escuchar_1zWhpo1VWnk/bidaai_qawali
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post Sep 13 2010, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE(Anupama @ Sep 13 2010, 09:41 AM) *

Venkatji, I know two more identical pairs:

1. Islamic Devotional Song - Chalo Baghdad Chalo - Mohd.Rafi & Unknown Female Singer
Pakeezah - Chalo Dildaar Chalo - Mohd.Rafi & Lata Mangeshkar


2. Shaadi Se Pehle (1980) - Teri Saanson Mein Kaisi Khushboo Hai - Mohd.Rafi & Asha Bhonsle (MD - Sapan Jagmohan)
Teri Talaash Mein - Koi Deewana Tujhe Chaahega - Mohd.Rafi & Asha Bhonsle (MD - Sapan Jagmohan)

Both have identical Mukhdas n Anatars. If you need any of these songs, I'll send you em via email.

Anupama

Could you pls upload Chalo Baghdad Chalo? Thanks!


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There is only one better thing than music - live music. - Jacek Bukowski

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QUOTE(venkat @ Sep 13 2010, 09:06 AM) *

QUOTE(Anupama @ Sep 13 2010, 05:11 AM) *

Venkatji, I know two more identical pairs:

1. Islamic Devotional Song - Chalo Baghdad Chalo - Mohd.Rafi & Unknown Female Singer
Pakeezah - Chalo Dildaar Chalo - Mohd.Rafi & Lata Mangeshkar


2. Shaadi Se Pehle (1980) - Teri Saanson Mein Kaisi Khushboo Hai - Mohd.Rafi & Asha Bhonsle (MD - Sapan Jagmohan)
Teri Talaash Mein - Koi Deewana Tujhe Chaahega - Mohd.Rafi & Asha Bhonsle (MD - Sapan Jagmohan)

Both have identical Mukhdas n Anatars. If you need any of these songs, I'll send you em via email.


Anu, please do send me 1. Koi Deewana Tujhe Chahega and 2. Islamic--Chalo Baghdad Chalo


Thanks,

Venkat



Anuji,

Can you please upload highlighted song from Teri Talaash Mein.

Thanks

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post Sep 14 2010, 02:39 AM
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QUOTE(Faraaj73 @ Sep 13 2010, 06:30 AM) *

QUOTE(Anupama @ Sep 13 2010, 09:41 AM) *

Venkatji, I know two more identical pairs:

1. Islamic Devotional Song - Chalo Baghdad Chalo - Mohd.Rafi & Unknown Female Singer
Pakeezah - Chalo Dildaar Chalo - Mohd.Rafi & Lata Mangeshkar


2. Shaadi Se Pehle (1980) - Teri Saanson Mein Kaisi Khushboo Hai - Mohd.Rafi & Asha Bhonsle (MD - Sapan Jagmohan)
Teri Talaash Mein - Koi Deewana Tujhe Chaahega - Mohd.Rafi & Asha Bhonsle (MD - Sapan Jagmohan)

Both have identical Mukhdas n Anatars. If you need any of these songs, I'll send you em via email.

Anupama

Could you pls upload Chalo Baghdad Chalo? Thanks!


Faraaj-ji, I'm uploading the CD version of this song. YT has the song in slightly better quality.

Islamic Devotional Song - Chalo Baghdad Chalo
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Chalo Baghdad Chalo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-PVY3KTU10



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QUOTE(Rushin @ Sep 13 2010, 11:29 AM) *

QUOTE(venkat @ Sep 13 2010, 09:06 AM) *

QUOTE(Anupama @ Sep 13 2010, 05:11 AM) *

Venkatji, I know two more identical pairs:

1. Islamic Devotional Song - Chalo Baghdad Chalo - Mohd.Rafi & Unknown Female Singer
Pakeezah - Chalo Dildaar Chalo - Mohd.Rafi & Lata Mangeshkar


2. Shaadi Se Pehle (1980) - Teri Saanson Mein Kaisi Khushboo Hai - Mohd.Rafi & Asha Bhonsle (MD - Sapan Jagmohan)
Teri Talaash Mein - Koi Deewana Tujhe Chaahega - Mohd.Rafi & Asha Bhonsle (MD - Sapan Jagmohan)

Both have identical Mukhdas n Anatars. If you need any of these songs, I'll send you em via email.


Anu, please do send me 1. Koi Deewana Tujhe Chahega and 2. Islamic--Chalo Baghdad Chalo


Thanks,

Venkat



Anuji,

Can you please upload highlighted song from Teri Talaash Mein.

Thanks



Rushinji, the person I got the song from requested me not to upload it on any public forum. If it was my work or without any condition to it, I'd have shared happily. I can guide you to the YT link of this song:

Koi Deewana Tumhein Chahega
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0AFXL2ykFQ

Teri Saanson Mein
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsjGeq_tngk


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QUOTE(Anupama @ Sep 13 2010, 02:44 PM) *

Venkkatji, I just sent you both the audios.

I'm listening to Chalo Baghdad Chalo.... It doesn't sound like Rafi sahab to me but I got it from Rafi sahab's Islamic CD. Whoever is singing this sounds like him. It could be Rafi sahab and the audio is just not clear enuf for one to be certain that it is him. Kindly listen to it and tell me what you think.

This site also mentions Rafi sahab as the singer:
http://www.getacd.es/escuchar_1zWhpo1VWnk/bidaai_qawali

Hi Anupama

Having heard Chalo Baghdad Chalo on YouTube its definitely not Rafi. The singer is trying to imitate Rafi but struggles (as would anyone!) on the higher pitch...


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There is only one better thing than music - live music. - Jacek Bukowski

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QUOTE(Faraaj73 @ Sep 14 2010, 03:55 PM) *

QUOTE(Anupama @ Sep 13 2010, 02:44 PM) *

Venkkatji, I just sent you both the audios.

I'm listening to Chalo Baghdad Chalo.... It doesn't sound like Rafi sahab to me but I got it from Rafi sahab's Islamic CD. Whoever is singing this sounds like him. It could be Rafi sahab and the audio is just not clear enuf for one to be certain that it is him. Kindly listen to it and tell me what you think.

This site also mentions Rafi sahab as the singer:
http://www.getacd.es/escuchar_1zWhpo1VWnk/bidaai_qawali

Hi Anupama

Having heard Chalo Baghdad Chalo on YouTube its definitely not Rafi. The singer is trying to imitate Rafi but struggles (as would anyone!) on the higher pitch...


Yeah, Faraaj! It is certainly not Rafi!! Even Anupama had her doubts (expressed in a post of hers above!)!!!

Venkat

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Friends,

Time now to update our latest list of TWELVE (12) identically tuned pairs of Rafi songs, both in Mukhdas and Antaras!!!!


Pair 1

1. "Ek Chameli Ki Mandwe Tale"--Film: Cha Cha Cha(1964)---MD:Iqbal Quereshi--Rafi and Asha (Lyrics: Maqdoom Moinuddin)

2. "Aaj Mausam Ki Masti Mein Gaaye Pawan"--Film:Banarasi Thug(1962)---MD:Iqbal Quereshi---Rafi and Lata (Lyrics: Hasrat Romani)

Pair 2---This is actually a Triplet!

1. "Tu Hind Bane Ya na Musalmaan Banega, Insaan Ki Aulad"---Film:Dhool Ka Phool(1959)---MD:N.Datta---Rafi (Lyrics: Sahir Ludhianvi)

2. "Kya Kya Na Sitam Tujh Pe Huve Mehlon Ki Raani"---Film:Mohini(1957)---MD:N.Datta---Rafi (Lyrics: Raja Mehdi Ali Khan)

3. "Gham Hon Ke Sitam Tu Kabhi Aansoo Na Bahana"--MOVIE : NAI MAA (1960)--MUSIC : RAVI--Rafi (Lyrics: Shevan Rizvi)

Pair 3

1. "Main Kal Phir Milungi"--Film:Dr.Vidya(1962)--MD:SDB--Rafi & Lata (Lyrics: Majrooh Sultanpuri)

2. "Kisi Ki Mohabbat Mein"--Film:Kaise Kahoon(1964)--MD:SDB--Rafi & Asha (Lyrics: Shakeel Badyuni)


Pair 4

1. "Parwadigarey Aalam Tera Hi Hai Sahara....Film: Haatim Tai(1956)--MD:S.N.Tripathi--Rafi (Lyrics: Akhthar Romani)

2. "Choota Watan Hamara ,Hafiz Khuda Tumhara...Film:Khuda Ka Banda(1957)--MD:S.N.Tripathi--Rafi (Lyrics: Shevan Rizvi)

Pair 5

1."Agar Milgayi Mujhko, Rah-e-Madina, Mohammed Ke Nakshe"--Islamic devotional--Rafi

2. "Unhe Qissa-e-Gham"--Non-Filmi--Rafi

Pair 6

1. "Hue Hum Jin Ke Liye Barbaad"--Film:Deedar(1951)--MD:Naushad--Rafi

2. "Basi Hai Dil Mein Nabi Ki Yaad"--Islamic Naat--Rafi

Pair 7

1. "Har Bekass Ke GhamKhaar Ho Tum"--Islamic Devotional--Md:Khayyam--Rafi

2. "Mere Geeton Ka Singhaar Ho Tum"--Non-Filmi--MD:Khayyam--Rafi

Pair 8

1. "Pyar Ke Sagar Se Nikli--Ek Jhoot Hai Jis Ka Duniya Ne"--Film:Jadoo(1951)--MD:Naushad--Rafi

2. "Jab Se Nabi Aankhon Mein--Yeh Haal Hai Mera Kursat Mein" --Islamic Devotional-Rafi

Pair 9

1."So Ja Sanam Teri Jawan Palkon Tale"--Film:Rocky Mera Naam(1973)--MD:Sapan Jagmohan--Rafi (Lyrics: Naqsh Lyalpuri)

2. "Pyaar Lage Raat Aur Din Ka Yeh Milan Pyar Ki"--Film:Habari(1979)--MD:Sapan Jagmohan--Rafi & Sulakshana Pandit (Lyrics: M.G.Hashmat)

Pair 10

1. "Bol Bol Bol My Little Dove"---Film:Baap Bete(1959)---MD:Madan Mohan--Rafi (Lyrics:Rajendra Krishna)

2. "Kaun Yeh Aaya Mehfil Mein"---Film:Dil Deke Dekho(1959)--MD:Usha Khanna---Rafi & Usha Khanna (Lyrics: Majrooh Sultanpuri)


Pair 11

1. "Aag Raag Se Aag Lagaa Do, Aag Lagaa Do"---Film:Sultan-e-Alam--1956-- MD:S.Mohinder---Rafi (Lyrics: Tanveer Naqvi)

2. "Iss Gulshan Ko Aag Lagaa Do, Aag Lagaa Do"--Film: Zarak Khan-1963---MD:S.Mohinder---Rafi & Suman (Lyrics: Anand Bakshi)


Pair 12


1. "Koi Deewana Tumhe Chaahega, Kabhi Tum Ne Socha Bhi Na Hogaa" -Film:Teri Talaash Mein - 1968--MD: Sapan Jagmohan--Mohd.Rafi & Asha Bhonsle (Lyrics: Naqsh Lyalpuri)

2. "Teri Saanson Mein Kaisi Khushboo Hai" -Film: Shaadi Se Pehle -1980-MD: Sapan Jagmohan--Mohd.Rafi & Asha Bhonsle (Lyrics: Gauhar kaanpuri)


More later!!!

Venkat


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QUOTE(Anupama @ Sep 14 2010, 02:41 AM) *

QUOTE(Rushin @ Sep 13 2010, 11:29 AM) *

QUOTE(venkat @ Sep 13 2010, 09:06 AM) *

QUOTE(Anupama @ Sep 13 2010, 05:11 AM) *

Venkatji, I know two more identical pairs:

1. Islamic Devotional Song - Chalo Baghdad Chalo - Mohd.Rafi & Unknown Female Singer
Pakeezah - Chalo Dildaar Chalo - Mohd.Rafi & Lata Mangeshkar


2. Shaadi Se Pehle (1980) - Teri Saanson Mein Kaisi Khushboo Hai - Mohd.Rafi & Asha Bhonsle (MD - Sapan Jagmohan)
Teri Talaash Mein - Koi Deewana Tujhe Chaahega - Mohd.Rafi & Asha Bhonsle (MD - Sapan Jagmohan)

Both have identical Mukhdas n Anatars. If you need any of these songs, I'll send you em via email.


Anu, please do send me 1. Koi Deewana Tujhe Chahega and 2. Islamic--Chalo Baghdad Chalo


Thanks,

Venkat



Anuji,

Can you please upload highlighted song from Teri Talaash Mein.

Thanks



Rushinji, the person I got the song from requested me not to upload it on any public forum. If it was my work or without any condition to it, I'd have shared happily. I can guide you to the YT link of this song:

Koi Deewana Tumhein Chahega
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0AFXL2ykFQ

Teri Saanson Mein
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsjGeq_tngk



Thanks Anuji,

Very useful links.


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two very well known songs. even though they are variations of the the mukhdas and antaras they seem so similar and so hummable and so soothing!` and i don't seem to tire listening to them too!-

1.jaane kis roop ki. film-archana. rafisaab. sj

2. jab bhi yeh dil udas hota hai. film-seema-rafisaab.sj
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