With Lata-bai, Arguably the finest combination ever |
With Lata-bai, Arguably the finest combination ever |
archimoz |
Mar 24 2005, 09:23 PM
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'aye dil kahaan teri manzil' from 'maya'. 95% of the song is sung by Dwijen Mukherjee. The story goes that one lead violin player was missing on the day of the recording. Salil-babu's genius took over and he had Lata-bai (who was present there) to substitute for the high pitched violin movements). The end result is so stunning that one is left with open jaws.
Lata-bai's effort can give an inferiority complex to a professional soprano. Regards-Archie. |
archimoz |
Mar 24 2005, 10:02 PM
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A divine number from the movie 'awaaz' (1955). Salil-babu broke away from the 'lorie-tradition' in two ways. First, he used short phrases unlike other lories like 'dheere se aaja re ankhiyan mein' or 'nanhi kali soney chali hawa dheere aana' or 'neend pari lorie gaaye' (Salil-babu himself). Secondly, from the 3rd stanza, the song jumps to a high pitch, unlike lories which do not have much of a variance in the range of notes used in the song.
However, even after using the high pitch phrases, the essence of the song remains soothing, calming, and comforting. And as for the lyrics (I think it is Shailendra), they almost bring tears. Lata-bai has put her heart and soul in this song. Regards-Archie |
archimoz |
Mar 24 2005, 10:29 PM
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A beautiful bhajan 'jaagiye gopala' (based on raag durga) from the movie 'jawaahar' (1960). Lyrics by Prem Dhawan.
A super soft number 'haay jhilmil' from 'laal batti' (1957). Lyrics by Majrooh Sultanpuri. A beautiful number 'aha re magan' from 'honeymoon' (1060). Lyrics by Shailendra. A classy number 'ankhon mein kaajal' from 'jhoola' (1962). Once again, note the gorgeous prelude in western symphony style which seamlessly blends into the song that has traces of indian classical music in it. (The 1st & 2nd lines are based on raags hamir & kedar respectively). A lovely song 'bole pihu pihu papihara' from 'ek gaon ki kahani' (1957). Lyrics by Shailendra. Superb rendition by Lata-bai. Hope you like the numbers. Regards-Archie. |
archimoz |
Mar 24 2005, 10:37 PM
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Almost one a half decades after the above 5 gems, the Lata-Salil team are as dazzling as ever.
This song from Anokha Daan is one of sheer beauty. Salil-babu, the genius, still remains the king of harmony, orchestration, preludes, interludes and sudden but beautiful twists & turns in his music. Lyrics by Gulzar. Regards-Archie. |
archimoz |
Mar 24 2005, 10:42 PM
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A racy Lata Manna duet from Sapne Suhane. Lyrics by Shailendra. Note the beautiful choral effect in this song,
Regards-Archie. |
abhayp |
Mar 25 2005, 10:02 PM
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QUOTE(archimoz @ Mar 24 2005, 10:42 PM) A racy Lata Manna duet from Sapne Suhane. Lyrics by Shailendra. Note the beautiful choral effect in this song, Regards-Archie. Now *this* is very interesting indeed - in the recording I have of this song, the words differ significantly from the version you have uploaded! The version I have has the following mukhadaa: naam meraa nimmo mukaam ludhiyaanaa sang liye doloon main pyaar kaa khazaanaa ho rahoongi teri laa dil nazaraanaa yoon hi re yoon hi tu mat lalachaanaa The version you have uploaded goes: naam meraa nimmo makaam ludhiyaanaa sang liye doloon main pyaar kaa *taraanaa* *de chuki hoon baalam ko* dil nazaraanaa *yahi re yahi hai meraa Thikaanaa* In the first stanza, again, the first line in my version goes: o dekh dekh zaalim na ab tarasaa dil na jalaa dil na jalaa are main ne tujhe chaahaa kyaa yah bhii hai khataa sach batalaa batalaa aadat hain mardon ki pichhe pad jaanaa jhooth mooth karate hain pyaar kaa bahaanaa While your version has: o dekh dekh *nimmo* na ab *bharamaa* ... aadat hain mardon ki *batiyaan banaanaa* ... What gives?? Does the movie have the song twice? Or is one of these two a 'cover version'? My version indubitably has Lata, while the version you have uploaded also - to my ears - has Lata. Help, someone! Warm regards, Abhay |
Talaikya |
Mar 25 2005, 10:05 PM
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Abhay ji,
First things first - upload, upload, upload!! T You must be the change you want to see in the world - Mahatma Gandhi |
Talaikya |
Mar 25 2005, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE(archimoz @ Mar 24 2005, 11:32 AM) A divine number from the movie 'awaaz' (1955). And as for the lyrics (I think it is Shailendra), they almost bring tears. Regards-Archie The lyricist is Vishwamitra Adil, and yes they do bring tears. The song "Jhun jhunjhunaa" is based on the famous bengali song "Ghoom aay re aay" first recorded by Protima Bandopaddhaay in 1955. The lyrics of this song was written back in 1946 by then famous poet Mangalacharan Chattopaddhaay and Salil composed the music in two parts. The first part is quite slow and the second part is fast. This song was performed by the IPTA delegation with dance in Geneva during the ILO conference in 1952. Salil used both parts of this song to compose two others. He composed "Aaa jaa re aa nindiyaa to aa" based on the slow part for the film "Do Bigha Zameen" and composed "Jhun jhun jhunaa" based on the fast part. Courtesy : www.salilda.com A very informative and comprehensive site This post has been edited by Talaikya: Mar 25 2005, 10:24 PM You must be the change you want to see in the world - Mahatma Gandhi |
sangeetbhakt |
Mar 25 2005, 10:24 PM
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QUOTE(abhayp @ Mar 25 2005, 09:32 AM) QUOTE(archimoz @ Mar 24 2005, 10:42 PM) A racy Lata Manna duet from Sapne Suhane. Lyrics by Shailendra. Note the beautiful choral effect in this song, Regards-Archie. Now *this* is very interesting indeed - in the recording I have of this song, the words differ significantly from the version you have uploaded! The version I have has the following mukhadaa: naam meraa nimmo mukaam ludhiyaanaa sang liye doloon main pyaar kaa khazaanaa ho rahoongi teri laa dil nazaraanaa yoon hi re yoon hi tu mat lalachaanaa The version you have uploaded goes: naam meraa nimmo makaam ludhiyaanaa sang liye doloon main pyaar kaa *taraanaa* *de chuki hoon baalam ko* dil nazaraanaa *yahi re yahi hai meraa Thikaanaa* In the first stanza, again, the first line in my version goes: o dekh dekh zaalim na ab tarasaa dil na jalaa dil na jalaa are main ne tujhe chaahaa kyaa yah bhii hai khataa sach batalaa batalaa aadat hain mardon ki pichhe pad jaanaa jhooth mooth karate hain pyaar kaa bahaanaa While your version has: o dekh dekh *nimmo* na ab *bharamaa* ... aadat hain mardon ki *batiyaan banaanaa* ... What gives?? Does the movie have the song twice? Or is one of these two a 'cover version'? My version indubitably has Lata, while the version you have uploaded also - to my ears - has Lata. Help, someone! Warm regards, Abhay Often songs would be re-recorded since the censors object to something in the lyrics. Maybe they thought "lalchaana" and "peechhe paDna" were too risque. Who knows. THe version that was uploaded is the one that I know, but then again, I have not paid that much attention to the lyrics on this song. Would love to hear your version. Please upload as T-ji requested. A similar situation was true in the song "Mai soya akhiyaN meeche" in the film "Phagun". There is a line "Mai soyi akhiyaN meeche teri baahoN ke neeche". That was considered unacceptable and in the film, it is replaced with this horrible screechy instrument playing the tune. It was almost as if OPN or who-ever did it in protest. |
Talaikya |
Mar 25 2005, 10:29 PM
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Archie ji,
That was a wonderful treat. I hadn't heard any except the Anokha Daan number. Not surprisingly, none are available with SaReGaMa, and they do have other numbers from Anokha Daan! Now the hunt for CD able versions begins. Till then, I will continue to enjoy your uploads. Thank you. T You must be the change you want to see in the world - Mahatma Gandhi |
sangeetbhakt |
Mar 25 2005, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE(archimoz @ Mar 24 2005, 08:53 AM) 'aye dil kahaan teri manzil' from 'maya'. 95% of the song is sung by Dwijen Mukherjee. The story goes that one lead violin player was missing on the day of the recording. Salil-babu's genius took over and he had Lata-bai (who was present there) to substitute for the high pitched violin movements). The end result is so stunning that one is left with open jaws. Lata-bai's effort can give an inferiority complex to a professional soprano. Regards-Archie. First of all thanx for all these lovely songs. It was fun to hear them again. WHile I have them, it is still nice to get mp3 versions. About this song, I don't think the voice is Lata's at all. I think it is Sabita. Lata's voice at higher pitches is much thinner like you hear in the KK/Lata duet in "Half ticket". This sounds more like Sabita. |
archimoz |
Mar 26 2005, 07:42 AM
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QUOTE(sangeetbhakt @ Mar 25 2005, 10:35 PM) QUOTE(archimoz @ Mar 24 2005, 08:53 AM) 'aye dil kahaan teri manzil' from 'maya'. 95% of the song is sung by Dwijen Mukherjee. The story goes that one lead violin player was missing on the day of the recording. Salil-babu's genius took over and he had Lata-bai (who was present there) to substitute for the high pitched violin movements). The end result is so stunning that one is left with open jaws. Lata-bai's effort can give an inferiority complex to a professional soprano. Regards-Archie. First of all thanx for all these lovely songs. It was fun to hear them again. WHile I have them, it is still nice to get mp3 versions. About this song, I don't think the voice is Lata's at all. I think it is Sabita. Lata's voice at higher pitches is much thinner like you hear in the KK/Lata duet in "Half ticket". This sounds more like Sabita. Dear Mr. Sangeetbhakt, I think it is Lata. Firstly, it sounds (to my ears) like her voice and secondly, Mr. Gautam Chowdhury (owner of the site www.salilda.com) had told me of it. Gautam-da is an authority on Salil-babu and used to know him personally. Regards-Archie. |
archimoz |
Mar 26 2005, 07:52 AM
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All these songs have ben given to me by Gautam Chowdhury, the owner of www.salilda.com. So all thanks are due to him. I'm just a conduit for sharing the goodies and propagate the genuis of this composer.
I had also uploaded some Asha-tai numbers (courtesy Gautam-da) on: http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?showtopic=3131 Hope you enjoy them. Regards-Archie. |
abhayp |
Mar 26 2005, 10:57 AM
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Mar 28 2005, 04:11 AM
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QUOTE(archimoz @ Mar 24 2005, 09:59 AM) A beautiful bhajan 'jaagiye gopala' (based on raag durga) from the movie 'jawaahar' (1960). Lyrics by Prem Dhawan. A super soft number 'haay jhilmil' from 'laal batti' (1957). Lyrics by Majrooh Sultanpuri. A beautiful number 'aha re magan' from 'honeymoon' (1060). Lyrics by Shailendra. A classy number 'ankhon mein kaajal' from 'jhoola' (1962). Once again, note the gorgeous prelude in western symphony style which seamlessly blends into the song that has traces of indian classical music in it. (The 1st & 2nd lines are based on raags hamir & kedar respectively). A lovely song 'bole pihu pihu papihara' from 'ek gaon ki kahani' (1957). Lyrics by Shailendra. Superb rendition by Lata-bai. Hope you like the numbers. Regards-Archie. Archie or anyone, Who stars in the 1960 Jawahar? |
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