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, I Now Know Not Eleven, But Twlve Pairs!

 
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mohanflora
post Jun 23 2007, 07:55 AM
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Hi guys!
How could you all miss out on this classic pair! Sung about 6-7 years apart Rafisaab sounds the same, if not better. RDB is the common factor, so is the music, so are the lyrics, both songs hits! Anything more identical?

1. Koi aur duniya mein tumsa haseen-Pyar Ki Kahani-Rafi-RDB

2. Maina poocha chand se-Abdullah-Rafi-RDB
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post Jun 23 2007, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE(nasar @ Jun 21 2007, 01:29 PM) *

Venkat Saab here is the song you wanted




Thanks Nasar.

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"If music be the food of love, play on;
Give me excess of it, that, surfeiting,
The appetite may sicken, and so die."

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post Jun 23 2007, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(maheshks @ Jun 21 2007, 12:30 PM) *

Here is the song from 78 rpm record

Gham hon ke sitam tu kabhi aansoo na bahana
jhuk jaayega ik din tere kadmon pe Zamana.


SINGER : MOHD RAFI
MOVIE : NAI MAA (1960)
MUSIC : RAVI




This song was also sung by Suman Kalyanpuri.


Thanks Mahesh Bhai.

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धन्यबाद

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"If music be the food of love, play on;
Give me excess of it, that, surfeiting,
The appetite may sicken, and so die."

— From Twelfth Night (I, i,1-3)
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post Jun 23 2007, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE(im4afi @ Jun 23 2007, 03:17 AM) *

One more find
Parwadigarey aalam tera he hai sahara....Haatim tai
and almost idenical tune in mukhda and antras and antraz have same theme also
Choota watan hamara ,hafiz khuda tumhara... details?


Parverdigarey aalam...4.10 mts 128 kbps film version



Choota watan hamara haafiz kuda tumhara 3.08 mts


Im4afi Ji,

I knew the Parwardigar-e-Alam song from Hatim Tai(1956) earlier. Now, I have d/led and listened to your "Choota Watan Hamahara" song from Khuda Ka Banda(1957). I am happy to find that both are almost identical both in Mukhda and Antaras, except that there is just a 5% variation in the Antaras. But, in my view , this pair qualifies to be in our list of almost identical pairs! So, we have the fourth one in our list!

Incidentally, here too, both the songs in the pair were composed by S.N.Tripathi.

Thanks very much.

Venkat

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post Jun 23 2007, 01:31 PM
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QUOTE(mohanflora @ Jun 23 2007, 07:55 AM) *

Hi guys!
How could you all miss out on this classic pair! Sung about 6-7 years apart Rafisaab sounds the same, if not better. RDB is the common factor, so is the music, so are the lyrics, both songs hits! Anything more identical?

1. Koi aur duniya mein tumsa haseen-Pyar Ki Kahani-Rafi-RDB

2. Maina poocha chand se-Abdullah-Rafi-RDB


Mohan Ji,

Thank you, very much. Before I d/l these, could you confirm from your side whether these are almost identical both in Mukhda and Antaras. From memory, I can gauge that the Mukhdas are certainly almost identical, but I have no clue nor memory of their Antaras.

Venkat

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post Jun 23 2007, 09:01 PM
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Thanks a lot hari ram , anupama and im4rafi ji bow.gifbow.gif



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post Jun 23 2007, 09:19 PM
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Here is a pair that came to mind,

Ajeeb dastaan hai yeh, film: Dil Apna Preet Purai.

Ajeed Zindagi hai yeh, film: Door Nahin Manzil.

Both have music by SJ.
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post Jun 23 2007, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE(maheshks @ Jun 22 2007, 10:04 PM) *

QUOTE(venkat @ Jun 22 2007, 12:13 PM) *

Sincere thanks, Sri, for sharing those strong 'Ghazal' resemblances.

PA Ji and Sri,

Continuing on this identical pair brought out by PA, when I d/led from here and listened to the Kaise Kahoon song(Rafi & Asha) first, I found that I knew it quite well. But, subsequently, when I d/led and listened to the Dr.Vidya song (Rafi & Lata), I could not recall having heard it at all earlier. So, it is possible that the earlier Dr. Vidya (1962) song somehow did not become very popular or become 'a hit'. So, it could be that SDB had thought that this tune, very nice one that it is, deserves one more attempt at popularisation! And he repeated it in 1964 (two years later) in Kaise Kahoon!

One more thing. See the similarity of this S.D.Burman pair with the other Iqbal Quereshi pair! In both pairs, the earlier song belongs to 1962 and the later one belongs to 1964. And in both pairs, the earlier song is by Rafi-Lata and the later one by Rafi-Asha. What is more, in both pairs the later song is more popular than the earlier song!

Come to think of it, even in the N.Datta pair, the later song (Tu Hind Bane Ya) is more popular than the earlier song(Kya Kya Na Sitam).


Venkat


Venkatji there are many such incidents where the MDs have used their earlier tunes and
the later ones were much more popular than the earlier songs.

For example Roshan used the tune of the song...mera dil kahaan hai..asha..chandni chowk
again in rahein na rahein hum...mamta...lata.

madan mohan used....aankhon aankhon main ho gaye mast ishaare...khajanchi..asha
again in....nainon waali ne hai mera dil luta...lata...mera saya.

SDB used same tunes with slight variations in many songs

1. saari khushiaan saath aayin aap jab aaye...shamshad in jeevan jyoti (53)
reused in tum re sang to rain bitaayi...sagina...kishor and lata

2. tasveerein banati hain....asha in jeevan jyoti
re-used in dil pukare aa re aa re...jewel thief

Sri Bhai

paish karoon.....

remember the mushaaira in the movie gazal..... laugh.gif

khatte angoor ke baagaat kise paish karoon
apni mummy se jaake poochh apna haath kisey paish karoon laugh.gif



upload these songs.............mahesh..........pleeeease
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post Jun 24 2007, 02:48 AM
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Don't you think "Unhe Qissem-e-Ghum" has the same tune as "Agar Mil Gayi Moojh Ko Rahe Madina
Unhey qissa e ghum sunaney say pehlay 128 kbps .shair o shairi 2.20 mts film???????


agar mil gaee mujh ko rahey madeena...128 kbps...3.24 mts
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post Jun 24 2007, 02:50 AM
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Two songs, same tune, one a solo, the other a duet from 'TANGEWALI" (1955), music by Salil Chowdhury:
Cannot recollect now please find
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post Jun 24 2007, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE(im4afi @ Jun 24 2007, 02:50 AM) *

Two songs, same tune, one a solo, the other a duet from 'TANGEWALI" (1955), music by Salil Chowdhury:
Cannot recollect now please find


Im4afi Ji,

We are looking for two songs from two different films with almost identical tunes, both in Mukhda and Antaras. Also, preferably, there should be Rafi Saab in both!

As far as pairs of two songs from the same film with almost identical tunes are conerned, there are plenty. Examples: Ehsan Mera Hoga--by Rafi and Lata separately in Junglee ; Main Kamsin Hun Nadaan Hoon--by Rafi and Lata separately in Aayi Milan Ki Bela, etc.

Venkat

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post Jun 26 2007, 04:16 AM
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hello venkat,iam attaching these two songs which in my opinion are very identical in both mukda and antaras.if you examine the line phir wohi dil laya hoon of the first song and then examine the line suno ji ye calcutta hai ,you will find both songs are identical.Even the music is identical.
Here O P Nayyar has repeated the tune of the song of phir wohi dil laya hoon from earlier film howrah bridge.both Rafi gems.
please let me know what you think. smile.gif

attached:banda parwar thaam lo jigar
by rafi
film phir wohi dil laya hoon[1963]
music op nayyar
bitrate128kbps
duration 3.36mins

attached:eent ki dukki paan ka eeka
by rafi
film howrah bridge[1958]
music op nayyar
bitrate128kbps
duration 4.04mins



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QUOTE(venkat @ Jun 24 2007, 01:23 PM) *

QUOTE(im4afi @ Jun 24 2007, 02:50 AM) *

Two songs, same tune, one a solo, the other a duet from 'TANGEWALI" (1955), music by Salil Chowdhury:
Cannot recollect now please find


Im4afi Ji,

We are looking for two songs from two different films with almost identical tunes, both in Mukhda and Antaras. Also, preferably, there should be Rafi Saab in both!

As far as pairs of two songs from the same film with almost identical tunes are conerned, there are plenty. Examples: Ehsan Mera Hoga--by Rafi and Lata separately in Junglee ; Main Kamsin Hun Nadaan Hoon--by Rafi and Lata separately in Aayi Milan Ki Bela, etc.

Venkat


Any more ideas please?

Venkat

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QUOTE(INTEQAAM @ Jun 26 2007, 04:16 AM) *

hello venkat,iam attaching these two songs which in my opinion are very identical in both mukda and antaras.if you examine the line phir wohi dil laya hoon of the first song and then examine the line suno ji ye calcutta hai ,you will find both songs are identical.Even the music is identical.
Here O P Nayyar has repeated the tune of the song of phir wohi dil laya hoon from earlier film howrah bridge.both Rafi gems.
please let me know what you think. smile.gif

attached:banda parwar thaam lo jigar
by rafi
film phir wohi dil laya hoon[1963]
music op nayyar
bitrate128kbps
duration 3.36mins

attached:eent ki dukki paan ka eeka
by rafi
film howrah bridge[1958]
music op nayyar
bitrate128kbps
duration 4.04mins

HOW ABOUT THESE TWO GUYS?
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QUOTE(INTEQAAM @ Jun 26 2007, 04:16 AM) *

hello venkat,iam attaching these two songs which in my opinion are very identical in both mukda and antaras.if you examine the line phir wohi dil laya hoon of the first song and then examine the line suno ji ye calcutta hai ,you will find both songs are identical.Even the music is identical.
Here O P Nayyar has repeated the tune of the song of phir wohi dil laya hoon from earlier film howrah bridge.both Rafi gems.
please let me know what you think. smile.gif

attached:banda parwar thaam lo jigar
by rafi
film phir wohi dil laya hoon[1963]
music op nayyar
bitrate128kbps
duration 3.36mins

attached:eent ki dukki paan ka eeka
by rafi
film howrah bridge[1958]
music op nayyar
bitrate128kbps
duration 4.04mins


Inteqam Bhai,

Sincere thanks for participating and uploading two beautiful OPN songs. Of course, as these are well-known ones, I knew both of them earlier. But, I have specially played and heard them again.

But, Inteqam Bhai, in my humble view, the tunes of these two songs are not almost identical, either in Mukhda or Antaras. Well, I do agree with you that they are very similar in the feel, mood and flavor.

Regards,

Venkat

P.S. Yes, I have just noticed that you have uploaded both the songs of the SDB's identical pair (the Kaise Kahoon-1964 one and the Dr.Vidya-1962 one), as early as June 13, 2007 itself in your Rafi thread. Good work, Inteqam Bhai.

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