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post Aug 28 2005, 04:39 AM
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QUOTE(gkshyam @ Aug 26 2005, 12:12 AM)
smile1.gif tongue.gif laugh.gif tongue.gif Vivekaah...!!!!!!
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Lesson 1 - That would be an address to multiple Viveks!
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post Aug 28 2005, 07:35 AM
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Hits ! bow.gif Trust you to see the obvious! Even shyam wouldnt have realised he was typing Sanskrit !!

Yahaan to sirf do Vivek hain HF par...teesra kaun ?? unsure.gif

Ok.. proceeding by trial and error, let me make a few blunders and the gurus here can correct me:

atra Bhavatah biBhAsah pashyAmi. sah kimapi 'post' (=sUchih ?) na karishyati sad1.gif iti kA ?

Let me also translate what i tried to write: (kya pata..galti se theek likh diya ho tongue.gif) --- I see bibhas Sir here. He doesnt post anything. Why so?
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post Aug 28 2005, 09:46 AM
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QUOTE(visuja @ Aug 26 2005, 10:41 AM)
I think hits shd be the teacher here.. for acc to me, you have a pretty good understanding of the language ..... er.. care to lead us here too ? unsure.gif
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VISUJA. Tumne toh mera patta directly kataa diya sad1.gif

(M wanders through the gali-koochas, in tatters, singing 'kuchh log yahaan per aise hain..'
sometimes he changes the song and also sings 'matlab nikal gaya hai oh pehchaantey nahi..') doh.gif

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post Aug 28 2005, 08:19 PM
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rollf.gif Mandrake. Mujhe kya pata tumhein sanskrit mein bhi dilchaspi hai wink2.gif (though did give u some credit !! I did expect u that u'd have taken a formal training in this one too !!)
chalo.seems hits is busy with something...why dont u fill in for him ? tongue.gif
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post Aug 28 2005, 08:40 PM
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QUOTE(visuja @ Aug 28 2005, 08:19 PM)
rollf.gif Mandrake.  Mujhe kya pata tumhein sanskrit mein bhi dilchaspi hai wink2.gif (though did give u some credit !! I did expect u that u'd have taken a formal training in this one too !!)
chalo.seems hits is busy with something...why dont u fill in for him ? tongue.gif
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Fill in??? blab.gif
Fill in????? doh.gif
Kyon? Mujhmein zara-si bhi originality nahi hai kya?

(M changes record/cassette/CD : 'ye kya kiya re duniyawale, jahaan ke ghum...' Mukesh-mode shuru hota hai)

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post Sep 4 2005, 01:08 PM
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kEnapi EtAni pOsTAni pashyanti ?? unsure.gif camera.gif

Me gonna have a field day obliterating all rules of Sanskrit grammar with no one to correct me ! rollf.gif tongue.gif .....

on second thoughts... sad1.gif cry.gif...

mAta mitram pita chEti svabhAvAt trtayam hitam bow.gif
kAryakAraNataschAnyE bhavanti hitabuddhayah angry2.gif


mAtA = mother
mitram = friend
pita = father
chEti -- cha + iti
cha = and
iti = thus
svabhAvAt = by behaviour / nature
trtayam = trio
hitam = for benifit

By nature, the trio of mother, friends and father (worry about your) welfare.

kAryakAraNataschAnyE --- kArya-kAraNatah + cha + anyE
kArya-kAraNatah = (own) work (and) reason / personal benefits
anyE = others
bhavanti = become
hitabuddhayah = make-believe / feign (your) welfare (any sandhi here ? unsure.gif)

For their own personal needs, others feign being your well-wishers

Me making any sense .. O Panini's at HF ?? camera.gif
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post Sep 4 2005, 01:32 PM
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doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

O Krishna, what did you say in the Geeta?

krodhadbhavati sammoha...buddhinaasha....

(M logs onto the net, and books a flight to the Himalayas....)

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post Sep 4 2005, 01:44 PM
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Suddenly M pauses.... what if Visuja cannot understand?
He quickly turns, strides to the computer, and deftly taps the keyboard:

krodhAdbhavati saMmohaH saMmohAtsmRtivibhramaH
smRtibhraMshAdbuddhinAsho buddhinAshAtpraNashyati

Then, whistling 'The Good, The Bad and The Ugly', he sauters to the door...

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post Sep 4 2005, 01:50 PM
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M !! bow.gif It is indeed one of my fav passages in the Geeta bow.gif (and one of verrrrrry few that I manage to understand tongue.gif)

dhyAyato vishhayAn pumsah, sangastEshhUpajAyatE
sangAt sanjAyatE kAmah, kAmAt krOdhObhijAyatE
krOdhAdbhavati sammOhah sammOhAt smRtivibhramaH
smRtibhramshAd buddhinAshah buddhinAshAt praNashyati
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Generally spot my own behaviour at the anger / sorrow stage and try to analyse what is it that I'm attached to smile1.gif ... budhhinaash tak pahuncha nahin hoon...wink2.gif ..shaayad..unsure.gif
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post Sep 4 2005, 01:57 PM
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Arey agyaan baalak, buddhinaash tera nahi mera ho raha hai... :hair-pull:

(A quick FF on the player, and the air is filled with the soulful Mukesh:
zinda hoon is tarah ke ghum-e-zindagi nahi
jalta hua chiraag hoon par roshni nahi...)

V instantly peeks in from behind the door!! His glance darts around, trying to find who this Roshni babe is...

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post Sep 4 2005, 02:08 PM
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Although translations would be widely available, lemme try and give meanings for individual words:

dhyAyato --- dhyAyatah = (he/she) concentrates
vishhayAn - has a deeper meaning ... I think it means 'wordly objects'
pumsah - person
sangastEshhUpajAyatE --- sangah + tEshhu + upajAyatE
sangah = association
teshhu = among / with them
upajAyatE - arises / starts
(when) a person concentrates on 'wordly objects', he starts associating with them

sangAt = from association
sanjAyatE = arises / springs forth
kAmah = desire
kAmAt = from desire
krOdhObhijAyatE --- krOdhah + abhijAyatE
krOdhah = anger (also means sorrw here, I suppose unsure.gif)
abhijAyatE = arises
From association, springs forth desire (and) from desire arises anger

krOdhAt = from anger
bhavati = exists (from)
sammOhah = delusion
sammOhAt = from delusion
smRtivibhramah = forgetfullness (forgetting whats right and wrong)
Delusion exists (due to) anger (and) from delusion (arises) forgetfulness

smRtibhramshAt = from forgetfullness
budhhinAshah = total loss (of) intellect / wisdom
buddhinAshAt = from loss (of) wisdom
praNashyati = utter destruction
Forgetfullnes leads to loss of wisdom (and) loss of wisdom spells utter destruction

*Vivek enjoys the free rein thats being given to him at this thread tongue.gif rolleyes.gif*
poor bibhas .. u started the thread na ? unsure.gif
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post Sep 6 2005, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE(visuja @ Sep 4 2005, 04:38 AM)

*Vivek enjoys the free rein thats being given to him at this thread tongue.gif rolleyes.gif*
poor bibhas .. u started the thread na ? unsure.gif
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Vivek,
Enjoy it. I am enjoying reading all the translations (Dhanyosmi Vivekah) too. Though I knew the general meaning of the shlokas, it helps to see the sandhis broken down and roots displayed. Bhautika shAstrAdhyayanam karishyAmi, Me on a short break to learn physics before I tackle Sankrit.
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post Sep 20 2005, 08:43 AM
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Bibhas, your impromptu sanskrit is quite excellent ! Mujhe 5 min sochna padta hai to come up with a short sentence, that too after referring to google and a dictionary! sad1.gif

kutra sarvE janAh? camera.gif
atra kopi (kah + api) na pashhyAmi ! unsure.gif
sad1.gif
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post Sep 20 2005, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE(visuja @ Sep 19 2005, 11:13 PM) *

Bibhas, your impromptu sanskrit is quite excellent ! Mujhe 5 min sochna padta hai to come up with a short sentence, that too after referring to google and a dictionary! sad1.gif

vivekah, mama samskrutamapi bahu durbalam. atah EtAni shubhavachanAni svIkAranEchhAmi.

QUOTE(visuja @ Sep 19 2005, 11:13 PM) *

kutra sarvE janAh? camera.gif
atra kopi (kah + api) na pashhyAmi ! unsure.gif
sad1.gif


sarvE prAyah vibhinna vAda-vivAde vilInAh santi.

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post Sep 20 2005, 11:51 PM
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vivekah, mama samskrutamapi bahu durbalam. atah EtAni shubhavachanAni svIkAranEchhAmi.

Vivek (multiple from an earlier lesson) meri sanskrit bahut kamzor hai. isliye itni prashansa swikar nahi kar sakta .
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sarvE prAyah vibhinna vAda-vivAde vilInAh santi.

sab log alag alag vaad vivaad ( threads) main vilagn hain ??


How did I fair biggrin.gif
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