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Posted by: Nimii Aug 4 2004, 10:39 AM

Log on to yoodleeyoo.com to listen to the musical tribute.

Pradeep is the person behind this wonderful tribute.

Kudos to him

10 selections of Guru not so commonly heard numbers have been selected.

May this day be a fruitful, happy and enjoyable one for all of you.

Happy Birthday to Kishore Kumar Khandwewala!

N

Posted by: rom Aug 4 2004, 05:53 PM

Great selection of songs in the tribute at yoodleeyoo.com! Congratulions to Pradeep for doing a great job yet again!

Posted by: Pradeep Aug 4 2004, 05:56 PM

Nahin ROMji.. Its Nimii who has conceptualized and arranged everything. Maine tho sirf voice diya hai.

Posted by: Nimii Aug 4 2004, 06:30 PM

Posted by: Pradeep Aug 4 2004, 07:18 PM

hehh I have ur emails.. I will forward it off

Posted by: gurubaran Aug 5 2004, 05:50 AM

Hi Guys, I heard the tribute on our website. Wonderful compilation. Excellent songs. The magic of Kishoreda's voice is absolutely great. We miss you Kishore Da.

Posted by: Nimii Aug 5 2004, 07:52 AM

Posted by: Pradeep Aug 5 2004, 09:31 AM

But then I do get replies from ur email addy. Shayad someone has hacked into ur email.

Posted by: Nimii Aug 5 2004, 09:36 AM

Posted by: unni Aug 5 2004, 10:07 AM

"The Times of India" woke up on August 05:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-803021,curpg-1.cms

Posted by: suhana_safar Aug 5 2004, 10:38 AM

I am taking this time out to give my full hearted tribute to the master entertainer Kishore Kumar.

I was about 4 years when I heard Kishore da along with Rafisaab and I was immediately attracted to their legendry vocals.

However as years went on, I realised that it was incomplete to think of KK only as a singer as he was a man with various talents. A classy music director, fantastic actor, amazing writer, class singer and also a good human being who was not well understood by many.

People are always comparing KK and other legendry singers and every one is entitled to their views however Kishore Kumar was a total talented personality a complete artiste and I can't think of any one else who came come close to KK as a total entertainer.

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Posted by: asif21_04 Aug 5 2004, 02:23 PM

Nice post...SS ! I couldn't agree with you more because even I believe that KK has been the most versatile and talented artist Bollywood has seen. KK was so much more than just a singer and that's why I don't understand all the more why people are always comparing KK to other singers, mainly Rafi.

Kishore was my absolute favorite till just a few years ago (when I was a teen) because I could relate to 70's style music more back then and Kishore ruled in the 70's. But even though he was my favorite back then and listened mostly to his songs, it was always clear that Rafi was the greatest singer just because he had the most ideal singing voice, limitless range, great expression in his voice and an effortlessness in singing which nobody else had or has. Kishore was a great great singer too (bettered only by Rafi and nobody else) but was found out in many genres (ghazals, bhajans, qawwalis etc.). But then again, I have always regarded Kishore as a genius because he excelled in so many other fields. I don't think anyone else has managed that yet in Bollywood.

Again...I don't mean to start a debate here because I absolutely love the Guru, his songs and his movies. I have noticed that this is a great forum with very nice and friendly people and I just wanted to express my humble opinions in a free and candid fashion.

Salute to the Most versatile and gifted Bollywood Artist (Sampoorn Kalaakar) KK on his B'day !!

Posted by: ani218122 Aug 5 2004, 03:36 PM

Dear Mr Asif,

I do cater to start the debate which you have not intended to start, in your own words. Reasons as under please:-

> don't understand all the more why people are always comparing KK to other singers, mainly Rafi.

- yes sincerely.. Even I wonder how people compare other male signers to KK. There can be no comparison, as far as playback singing is concerned in Hindi cinema.

> But even though he was my favorite back then and listened mostly to his songs, it was always clear that Rafi was the greatest singer just because he had the most ideal singing voice, limitless range, great expression in his voice and an effortlessness in singing which nobody else had or has.

- The word 'Greatest' does not fall into any relative scale my friend! Could have been preserved for posterity for Md.Ali.. but Md. Rafi?

And how was it always clear ? Mind eludicating please? For the attibuties you have pointed out, I would mark Rafi lesser than Kishore in all .

What is a 'Ideal singing voice'? Is there any?
What is meant by Limitless range????? Am to G++ ???
Great expression - people will die laughing when they hear Rafi had more expression than Kishore
Effortlessness? 21 retakes in Tasveer tere dil mein, 19 in Jane kya dhuntdi rehti hai, incomplete takes for Aja aja pyar tera, songs of Dosti..Can add many more!

>Kishore was a great great singer too (bettered only by Rafi and nobody else) but was found out in many genres (ghazals, bhajans, qawwalis etc.).

- Is it?? How can you be so sure? What makes u think KK was bettered by Rafi and nobody else? Maybe if you can site 100 'great greats' of Rafi, somebody else might be able to site 200 'great greaters' of Guru, somebody 250 great great greaters of Manna , somebody 1000 great great great greaters of Yesudas (given his output in all languages)!

>Again...I don't mean to start a debate here because I absolutely love the Guru, his songs and his movies. I have noticed that this is a great forum with very nice and friendly people and I just wanted to express my humble opinions in a free and candid fashion.

-Your love for Guru notwithstanding, dont you think your views and your statements are in contradiction? In retrospect, they do not seem to reflect the 'humble' you. You mean to start no debate. Piquently, you have started it already.

A word of advice my dear friend Asif ,

Do not make a comparison which you cannot defend logically. U could have said that Rafi was a more learned singer, 'jyada seekha tha', hence could handle numbers mandating classical knowledge in a better way as compared to Kishore. And definitely Kishore was a more spontaneous singer of the 2, with a rounder and stronger voice . The discussion would have ended there with a note of thanks from either side. Relationship between the 2 could have blossomed like a Kishore Rafi Jugalbandi. Paradoxically, ur appeal for freindship literally has streaks of cries for war!

Forgive my candour.
Anirudha

Posted by: asif21_04 Aug 5 2004, 04:26 PM

Hi Ani,

Hey ...chill out buddy !:)

So... what I was fearing has happened !! I totally respect your opinions and you are entitled to hold them because they are your opinions. I could definitely debate and present you very strong answers to some of your comments, but as I said in the beginning I didn't in any way,shape or form intended it to be like this.

I dunno why you took everything so personally !! I was commenting from a very unbiased perspective. I am not a fan of anyone...and I don't really care that much to be a fan of any person. I am just a music aficionado...nothing more and nothing less.

Peace

Posted by: rom Aug 5 2004, 04:36 PM

Well Asif, instead of the tribute to Guru on his 75th birthday (for which this thread was created), you did compare him with Rafi, and showed him in worse light... at least on this one occasion better grace should have been shown!
As for being unbiased, a man without biases doesn't exist. Show me one and I'd show you God!
But finally, as you said indeed, peace! Let's pay tributes to Guru, the Genius, and let aside debates forever!

Posted by: unni Aug 5 2004, 05:58 PM

We just commemorated the death of Mohd. Rafi and we just celebrated the birth of Kishore Kumar.

Rafi-sahab to Kishore-da marks an unforgettable era in the annals of HFM.

Sadly, not one additional note will emerge from their golden throats.

Melody and harmony were hallmarks when they sang.

As fans of these legends, let us not insult their memories by saying one extra word that is lacking in harmony.

Instead, let us just be grateful to them and enjoy the legacy they left back for us, each of us is his/her own way.

Posted by: rahulgopaljoshi Aug 5 2004, 07:53 PM

Hello All

No DOubt Kishore Da and Rafi Ji were legendary singers. They were among the best talents that Hindi film Industry; for that matter India ever had !!

Its important to note that both of them were great friends, and respected each oher's abilities . SO who are we people to start such perry comparisons ? We do not have ability to even understand fully thier greatness.. Forget comaparing them !!

THe tributes to Kishore Da, and Rafi Saab , were superb.Hats Off to Pradeep , Nimmi and everybody else involved.. Happy BIrth Day to Kishore da from me !! You taught us to sing, laugh and cry together ..You taught to live and gave a purpose to it !!

Regards

Rahul Gopal Joshi

( Is it possible to post some of the songs from the tribute on BBM Files ? )

Posted by: suhana_safar Aug 6 2004, 05:29 AM

Anirudha: - yes sincerely.. Even I wonder how people compare other male signers to KK. There can be no comparison, as far as playback singing is concerned in Hindi cinema.


Well what we observe over all these years is that Rafisaab is always being comparec (needlessley) to others.

One must also realise that although there was not much of an age difference between Rafisaab and Kishire da, Rafisaab's experience in singing was second next to one. He sang fore 4 decades, 3 decades of which were till the 70's which saw the emergence of Kishore da.

Thus as music lovers we all need to respect the fact that both these legends had their own set of styles, talent and experience and hence any comparison is futile.

Ani:And definitely Kishore was a more spontaneous singer of the 2, with a rounder and stronger voice

Thats what I call lack of understanding of music and contribution of other great legends.
Kk was definitely spontanoeus but to say he was more than Rafisaab is being naive and insulting.

Asif I can appreciate your point of view but this is a time to pay tribute to KK's contribution and not anything else.

Lastly please let these legends rest in peace, they have achieved what others cant even dream of.
And please no more of he was better, learned or anything else.

Its important to note that both of them were great friends, and respected each oher's abilities . SO who are we people to start such perry comparisons ? We do not have ability to even understand fully thier greatness.. Forget comaparing them !![/COLOR]

Well said rahul, that sums it up.

Posted by: ani218122 Aug 6 2004, 08:33 AM

Suhana_Safar wrote:

>Thats what I call lack of understanding of music and contribution of other great legends.
>Kk was definitely spontanoeus but to say he was more than Rafisaab is being naive and >insulting.


Your mail appears to be resting on a bundle of anti-Kishore sentiments rather than relying on logic. Kishore was, always more spontaneous than Rafi, for that matter more spontaneous than anybody else in the playback zone. No 2 ways about it. That’s the way I think.. probably most musical hearts do!

Moreover, u people are slinging mud at Kishore in a forum meant for the maverick, then trying to cover it up all in the name of Rafi-Kishore friendship.

Pathetic!!

Nimii, Vampy , mujhko kahan laake pheka yaar!



Disgruntled yours


Anirudha

Posted by: suhana_safar Aug 6 2004, 09:01 AM

Your mail appears to be resting on a bundle of anti-Kishore sentiments rather than relying on logic. Kishore was, always more spontaneous than Rafi, for that matter more spontaneous than anybody else in the playback zone. No 2 ways about it. That’s the way I think.. probably most musical hearts do!

Moreover, u people are slinging mud at Kishore in a forum meant for the maverick, then trying to cover it up all in the name of Rafi-Kishore friendship.

Pathetic!!

Nimii, Vampy , mujhko kahan laake pheka yaar!


Now you have confirmed that you do not have an iota of understanding about anything let alone music.

It is for hideous people like you that such debates come into existence.

Well heart reader stop wasting our useful time by your gubbile mails.

Kahan Kahan se a jate hein.

Posted by: Nimii Aug 6 2004, 09:01 AM

Posted by: Pradeep Aug 6 2004, 09:01 AM

Anirudh, I am sorry.. let me apologize for Suhana Safar's statement. Everyone is welcome to HF I thank Nimii and Vampy for inviting you here.

SuhanaSafar, lets not move away from the theme of this thread.

Plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Posted by: suhana_safar Aug 6 2004, 09:05 AM

Anirudh, I am sorry.. let me apologize for Suhana Safar's statement. Everyone is welcome to HF I thank Nimii and Vampy for inviting you here.

SuhanaSafar, lets not move away from the theme of this thread.

Plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz \

Pradeep who has moved away from the thread. This gullible member was the one who got needlessley irked .

Kindly read her/his mails before you apologise or point finger at me.

Posted by: Nimii Aug 6 2004, 09:07 AM

hmmm .. shuru ho gaya tamasha!!!!!!!!!

chal shuru ho ja.. (Rafi Sahab and Guru song from Hum Joli)

hehehehehe

N

Posted by: Pradeep Aug 6 2004, 09:08 AM

The theme of this thread is to wish Kishore Da on his bday. And not to compare or throw snow at each other.
Suhana, I am not pointing a finger at you. This is a forum dedicated to Kishore.
Okay? Now plzzzzzzzzzzzzz.. stop this.

Posted by: ani218122 Aug 6 2004, 09:09 AM

>Now you have confirmed that you do not have an iota of understanding about >anything let alone music.


ROTFL.. ROTFL

>It is for hideous people like you that such debates come into existence.

My dear Suhana Safar, it is people like Asif and U who started the debate, Un-Instigated, Unprovoked, Intentionally to create a stir in the Kishore forum, that too on the man’s 75ht Birth anniversary!

>Well heart reader stop wasting our useful time by your gubbile mails.

- Who has invited u to read my mails anyway? It is your prerogative totally.


>Kahan Kahan se a jate hein.

- Main kahan se hun logon ko pata hai, acchi tarah se. Aap ke jaisa phoney name leke nahin ghumto hun.

Posted by: Pradeep Aug 6 2004, 09:11 AM

Okay Anirudh, point well proved. now plzzzzzzzzzzzzz ....

Posted by: ani218122 Aug 6 2004, 09:12 AM

Thanks Pradeep.


Regards

Anirudha

Posted by: Pradeep Aug 6 2004, 09:13 AM

WhenI was in school, u know.. one song during my younger days impressed me was...

Zindagi Ki Yahi Reet Hai, Haar Ke Baad Hi Jeet Hai..
Thode Aansu Hein, Thodi Kushi,
Aaj Gham Hai Tho Kal Hai Khushi..
....

Posted by: suhana_safar Aug 6 2004, 09:14 AM

Pradeep,

I will stop this for KK's sake but its a shame that you have not said a word to this notorioulsy stupid .....heart reader.

I challenge you to find one word or line that was in anyway ttying to defame the name of Kishore da.

Its better you read the mails before commenting anything.

Posted by: suhana_safar Aug 6 2004, 09:18 AM

This was my post....can any sane person tell me what is wrong with this mail.

"I am taking this time out to give my full hearted tribute to the master entertainer Kishore Kumar.

I was about 4 years when I heard Kishore da along with Rafisaab and I was immediately attracted to their legendry vocals.

However as years went on, I realised that it was incomplete to think of KK only as a singer as he was a man with various talents. A classy music director, fantastic actor, amazing writer, class singer and also a good human being who was not well understood by many.

People are always comparing KK and other legendry singers and every one is entitled to their views however Kishore Kumar was a total talented personality a complete artiste and I can't think of any one else who came come close to KK as a total entertainer."

Posted by: Pradeep Aug 6 2004, 09:18 AM

Suhana, please find the sentence where I 've said what you have claimed

Please stop this <--------------- please stop the debate. I never said you insulted kishore. Lets continue with the theme or the subject of the thread.

Posted by: Pradeep Aug 6 2004, 09:20 AM

Yeh Dostiii hamnahin chhodenge... Thodenge Dam Agar.. tera saath na chhodengeeee...

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Posted by: rahulgopaljoshi Aug 6 2004, 07:52 PM

Hello

There were so many discussions after my reply, but no one addressed to the last request I made . SOme of the songs ( in particular, CHand Chal tu Jara ..) , can they be posed for all of us on BBM ? I am not sure if this tribute couls be off in future; hence making the request

Once again..

Aasmaan mein CHanda SUraj
jaise Rafi aur Kishore
DOno aise Madhur Sur Chhede
Kheench Le Hamen Unki oor ..

Rahul GOpal Joshi

Posted by: gurubaran Aug 7 2004, 03:59 AM

Gr8 Stuff Nimii, I would be very nice and kind of you if the same compilation is u/l'd here in the forum. It will be helpful for people like me who do not have some songs from the compilation. Waiting for it

Posted by: rom Aug 13 2004, 07:04 PM

Just a news item to share with you, guys.
MTV will have Guru as the Apna Artist of the Month for August.


MTV remembers ever-green Kishore Da this August
Indiantelevision.com Team
(13 August 2004 4:00 pm)
MTV has chosen Kishore Kumar as the Apna artist of the month. The music channel will honour the great singer, actor, music director and director on his 75 birth anniversary.
Kishore Da's unforgettable golden voice will be played by VJ Nikhil on MTV Select from Monday 16 August to Friday 20 August at 4 pm
The channel has slotted a special programme Kishore Express, which will be telecast on 17 August at 3 pm. The programme will feature some of Kishore Kumar's captivating music and hilarious movie scenes.
What the present actors and actress have to say about singing maestro will be featured on 17 August at 7:30 pm
In addition to special programming, the channel will also conduct contest wherein the winner can win free CD's of Kishore Kumar by participating in the contest on www.mtvindia.com.

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Posted by: zankib Aug 15 2004, 01:50 PM

Try capturing video through TV tuner card and pc. Forget VCR.
I have lost one programme recorded on VCR.

Mere paas Cable connection nahin hai na . Khawob mein hi
yaad kar leta hun.


zankib

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QUOTE(asif21_04 @ Aug 5 2004, 04:26 PM)

Hi Ani,

Hey ...chill out buddy !:)

So... what I was fearing has happened !! I totally respect your opinions and you are entitled to hold them because they are your opinions.[color=#990000] I could definitely debate and present you very strong answers to some of your comments, but as I said in the beginning I didn't in any way,shape or form intended it to be like this.

I dunno why you took everything so personally !! I was commenting from a very unbiased perspective. I am not a fan of anyone...and I don't really care that much to be a fan of any person. I am just a music aficionado...nothing more and nothing less.

Peace