 Classical/semi-classican Compositions That Inspired Film Songs, Companion to the Sangeet Ke Sitarey thread "Famous Songs And Thei |
Classical/semi-classican Compositions That Inspired Film Songs
, Companion to the Sangeet Ke Sitarey thread "Famous Songs And Thei
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| abhayp |
 Jan 2 2009, 12:38 PM
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Raag Gaud Malhar comes next, with the old but little-heard drut bandish "garajat barasat bhiijat aa_iilo". The rendition of the bandish being uploaded here in by Malini Rajurkar. It is taken from an old cassette release and belongs to the days when Madame Rajurkar's awesome singing had a slightly frantic edge that has, mercifully, mellowed over the years (her recital at the Sawai Gandharva last month was a thoroughly delightful experience!).
The duration is 9:09 minutes and the recording is encoded in mp3 @ 147 kbps (VBR). The recording was sent to me by a friend at my express request - a million thanks to him! A 1-minute snippet of this rendition, as also the two spectacular film songs created by Roshan based on this bandish, can be found in post # 64 on the following link: http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?show...id=561286&# Warm regards, Abhay |
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| abhayp |
Jan 2 2009, 07:28 PM
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The series continues with the famous Bhairavi thumri, "lagat karejawaa me.n choT." A 78 rpm recording by Jaddan Bai (very reminiscent of Rasoolan Bai) and the film adaptation sung by Manna De can be found in post # 65 at
http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?show...id=561390&# There are many renditions of this thumri. I am uploading here two that I like a lot, although they are both by khayaaliyaa-s (who typically don't make very good thumri singers!). The first is a 78 rpm recording by Sawai Gandharva (3:17 minutes, mp3 @ 160 kbps): The last piece is a longer, leisurely rendition by Sawai Gandharva's 'paTTa-shishya', Bhimsen Joshi. His thumri-s don't always work very well, coming off quite often as modified khayals instead. Two recordings show conclusively that, if he puts his mind to it, he can sing a thumri as well as any semi-classical specialist: this recording (most probably from the late 1980s) and his virtuoso 1951 rendition of "ras ke bhare tore nain", released by Music Today a few years ago. Here, then, is his version of "lagat karejawaa me.n choT" (11:55 minutes, mp3 @ 96 kbps): Warm regards, Abhay |
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| Kaansen |
Jan 2 2009, 08:59 PM
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Great choice Abhayji. And very apt comments too. One of the best threads I have come across. Cheers, Kaansen |
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| abhayp |
Jan 2 2009, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE(Kaansen @ Jan 2 2009, 08:59 PM)  Great choice Abhayji. And very apt comments too. One of the best threads I have come across. Cheers, Kaansen Thanks, Kaansen! I am enjoying myself thoroughly; I hope those who read these posts and listen to the uploads share that sense of enjoyment. A request: no 'ji', please! Warm regards, Abhay This post has been edited by abhayp: Jan 2 2009, 09:43 PM |
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| sangeetbhakt |
Jan 2 2009, 11:57 PM
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I am a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuge fan of Malini Rajurkar's rendition of "Garjat barsat bheejat aailo". I am pretty amused by your characterization of it as having a "frantic edge"
 I actually like that edge for this particular song. I heard her sing live about 10 years back in New Jersey - the first time I ever heard her sing and was completely enthralled by her singing. WHen I found this cassette of hers with this rendition, I was in 7th heaven. Thanks for uploading an mp3 of it since I have still not gotten round to digitizing that cassette. And considering all the other comments that have already been floated about the sister threads in SKS and here, I probably do not need to add, but will "Great great threads". |
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| abhayp |
Jan 3 2009, 01:06 AM
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QUOTE(sangeetbhakt @ Jan 2 2009, 11:57 PM) I am a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuge fan of Malini Rajurkar's rendition of "Garjat barsat bheejat aailo". I am pretty amused by your characterization of it as having a "frantic edge" I actually like that edge for this particular song. I heard her sing live about 10 years back in New Jersey - the first time I ever heard her sing and was completely enthralled by her singing. WHen I found this cassette of hers with this rendition, I was in 7th heaven. What wouldn't I give to hear her sing it live!  Re. "frantic edge" - it was a feature that I found somewhat extraneous even though I have always been a big fan of hers. I don't regret the disappearance of that edge over the years, but neither do I let it interfere with my enjoyment of her earlier singing. Thanks for the compliments! Warm regards, Abhay |
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| RajanCS |
Jan 3 2009, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(abhayp @ Jan 2 2009, 07:28 PM) The series continues with the famous Bhairavi thumri, "lagat karejawaa me.n choT." A 78 rpm recording by Jaddan Bai (very reminiscent of Rasoolan Bai) and the film adaptation sung by Manna De can be found in post # 65 at http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?show...id=561390&# There are many renditions of this thumri. I am uploading here two that I like a lot, although they are both by khayaaliyaa-s (who typically don't make very good thumri singers!). The first is a 78 rpm recording by Sawai Gandharva (3:17 minutes, mp3 @ 160 kbps): The last piece is a longer, leisurely rendition by Sawai Gandharva's 'paTTa-shishya', Bhimsen Joshi. His thumri-s don't always work very well, coming off quite often as modified khayals instead. Two recordings show conclusively that, if he puts his mind to it, he can sing a thumri as well as any semi-classical specialist: this recording (most probably from the late 1980s) and his virtuoso 1951 rendition of "ras ke bhare tore nain", released by Music Today a few years ago. Here, then, is his version of "lagat karejawaa me.n choT" (11:55 minutes, mp3 @ 96 kbps): Warm regards, Abhay Excellent upload and comments, Abhay Regards, Rajan |
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| abhayp |
Jan 4 2009, 11:42 PM
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[When preparing to upload these pieces in Raag Yaman, I noticed that the member 'pradeepjoshi' has already uploaded one rendition of "ai rii aalii piyaa bin" by Kishori Amonkar just a couple of days ago. I am, however, going ahead with these uploads anyway because I have already posted on the companion thread; also, I am travelling for almost a month starting tomorrow and may not have high-speed Net access till I return home.]
Next in line in the traditional and well-known Yaman bandish, "ai rii aalii piyaa bin". Roshan had Lata Mangeskhar sing this bandish in its original form for the film "Raag Rang" in 1952. That song can be found in post # 66 on this link: http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?show...id=561935&# I am uploading below three renditions of this bandish. Although is both famous and popular, it is not heard much today primarily because performers don't seem to sing this raag at concerts these days. (Do they perhaps think it is too basic a raag? Misguided souls, if so!) The renditions here are all by masters. First off, a recording of a live recital by Kishori Amonkar (this is a different recording from the one uploaded by Pradeep). She is in good form here; in the hour-long original recording, she starts with another canonical chiiz in Yaman, "mo man lagan laagii", moves on to this bandish, and then sings a tarana. "ai ri aalii" is sung for 10:18 minutes. The male voice in the background (heard clearly in a taan toward the end) is of her disciple Raghunandan Panshikar. The upload here is in mp3 @ 160 kbps. The second upload is a much shorter rendition by Bhimsen Joshi. I am not sure of the provenance of this recording, but I like it a lot and am uploading it despite below-average audio quality. (Please keep this in mind before you decide to download the file!) The 4:25-minute recording is encoded in 160 kbps. The last recording is the rarest of the lot: it is by Ganesh Ramchandra Behre (1890-1965), better known as Behre-buwa. A direct disciple of Abdul Karim Khan, Behre-buwa also learnt from three other legends: Bhaskarbuwa Bakhle, Vazebuwa, and Rajab Ali Khan. There are hardly any recordings of Behre-buwa's in the public domain. This one is taken from an old radio recital. As in the BJ clip above, be warned that the audio quality is not great - although, given the age and the source of the recording (recorded on spool tape off the radio), it is not as bad as I would have expected! The duration of this rendition is 4:33 minutes and it is encoded in mp3 @ 160 kbps. Warm regards, Abhay |
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| Faraaj73 |
Jan 12 2009, 03:04 PM
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One of Lata's most beautiful (and beautifully sung) filmi songs is Bajubandh Khul Khul Jaye from the film Bazoobandh (1954) based on Raag Bhairavi, that most popular of raags for film music. I have uploaded both this song and a wonderful 3m 32sec Ustad Bade Ghulam Ali Khan rendition of Bajubandh here:
http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?s=&a...st&p=563925 As companion pieces, I upload two other longer renditions. The first is by Ustad Barkat Ali Khan of the Kasur Gharana - who was also Bade Ghulam Ali Khan Saab's brother - running at 8m 36s. The second is by the late Ustad Amanat Ali Khan of the Patiala Gharana running at 9m 27s. It would be unfair to compare these two renditions with that of the giant Ustad Bade Ghulam Ali Khan - but both are very good. Both are mp3/192 kbps... Enjoy! Kind Regards Faraaj This post has been edited by Faraaj73: Jan 12 2009, 03:21 PM Kind Regards Faraaj Music expresses that which cannot be said and on which it is impossible to be silent. - Victor Hugo There is only one better thing than music - live music. - Jacek Bukowski I hate music, especially when it's played. - Jimmy Durante No good opera plot can be sensible, for people do not sing when they are feeling sensible. - W. H. Auden |
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| abhayp |
Jan 12 2009, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(Faraaj73 @ Jan 12 2009, 03:04 PM) As companion pieces, I upload two other longer renditions. The first is by Ustad Barkat Ali Khan of the Kasur Gharana - who was also Bade Ghulam Ali Khan Saab's brother - running at 8m 36s. Lovely uploads, Faraaj! I am a big fan of Barkat Ali Khan's - I hadn't heard his rendition of this thumri before. Thanks a ton! I am uploading another rendition of this beautiful thumri by Sureshbabu Mane, son and disciple of Abdul Karim Khan and elder brother of Hirabai Barodekar. Sureshbabu was a wonderful singer who died tragically early. This is from an 78 rpm recording; the sound quality is not the best but is sufficient to convey the beauty of the rendition. The duration is 3:56 minutes and the recording in encoded in mp3 @ 160 kbps. Warm regards, Abhay This post has been edited by abhayp: Jan 12 2009, 04:31 PM |
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| Faraaj73 |
Jan 12 2009, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(abhayp @ Jan 12 2009, 10:00 PM) Lovely uploads, Faraaj! I am a big fan of Barkat Ali Khan's - I hadn't heard his rendition of this thumri before. Thanks a ton! I am uploading another rendition of this beautiful thumri by Sureshbabu Mane, son and disciple of Abdul Karim Khan and elder brother of Hirabai Barodekar. Sureshbabu was a wonderful singer who died tragically early. This is from an 78 rpm recording; the sound quality is not the best but is sufficient to convey the beauty of the rendition. The duration is 3:56 minutes and the recording in encoded in mp3 @ 160 kbps. Warm regards, Abhay Hi Abhay His voice resembles his father's...I feel that Ustad Karim Khan Saab had a slightly soft, almost feminine voice....unlike for example Ustad Faiyaz Khan (I still regularly hear his Jhan Jhan Payal Baje - obscenely good!!!)....however, he more than compensates that with his singing ability..... Do download the Barkat Ali Khan rendition....I don't want to play favourites and compare him to Ustad Amanat Ali but he's given an excellent rendition..... I have more filmi/classical coming up over the next ten days....keeping the seat warm for you  ....I expect payback in the form of some Faiyaz Khan and Rasoolan Bai pieces!!!Kind Regards Faraaj This post has been edited by Faraaj73: Jan 12 2009, 04:48 PM Kind Regards Faraaj Music expresses that which cannot be said and on which it is impossible to be silent. - Victor Hugo There is only one better thing than music - live music. - Jacek Bukowski I hate music, especially when it's played. - Jimmy Durante No good opera plot can be sensible, for people do not sing when they are feeling sensible. - W. H. Auden |
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| Faraaj73 |
Jan 13 2009, 03:34 PM
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Dedicated Member Group: Members Posts: 2198 Joined: 1-July 08 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 58864 |
You will find three short Bahar pieces in the companion thread in Sangeet Ke Sitaare. They are:
Bhimsen Joshi, Manna Dey - Ketaki Gulab Juhi Champak Ban Salamat Ali Khan - Des Des Ki Thi Jung Zohrabai Agrewali - Tori Jele Jele Edi Edi All are available at the following link: http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?s=&a...st&p=564268 Kind Regards Faraaj Kind Regards Faraaj Music expresses that which cannot be said and on which it is impossible to be silent. - Victor Hugo There is only one better thing than music - live music. - Jacek Bukowski I hate music, especially when it's played. - Jimmy Durante No good opera plot can be sensible, for people do not sing when they are feeling sensible. - W. H. Auden |
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| Kaansen |
Feb 20 2009, 03:00 PM
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Abhay,
Eagerly awaiting some more gems from you. Kaansen QUOTE(abhayp @ Jan 2 2009, 09:42 PM) Thanks, Kaansen! I am enjoying myself thoroughly; I hope those who read these posts and listen to the uploads share that sense of enjoyment. A request: no 'ji', please! Warm regards, Abhay |
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| Faraaj73 |
Feb 20 2009, 04:32 PM
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Dedicated Member Group: Members Posts: 2198 Joined: 1-July 08 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 58864 |
QUOTE(Kaansen @ Feb 20 2009, 08:30 PM) Abhay, Eagerly awaiting some more gems from you. Kaansen I second that! Those posts are among the very best in the past one year...and the erudite commentary makes them especially valuable.... Kind Regards Faraaj Music expresses that which cannot be said and on which it is impossible to be silent. - Victor Hugo There is only one better thing than music - live music. - Jacek Bukowski I hate music, especially when it's played. - Jimmy Durante No good opera plot can be sensible, for people do not sing when they are feeling sensible. - W. H. Auden |
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| bawlachintu |
Mar 9 2009, 03:32 PM
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Can anyone shed some light on
Meera Bhajan- "Jo tum todo piya -classical and bollywood connection. Here is the best singer of universe "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." -George Bernard Shaw ." |
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