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Hari Ram
post Dec 7 2007, 10:05 PM
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QUOTE(Yasmin @ Dec 7 2007, 10:11 AM) *

oh great upload Hari Ram smile1.gif
thanx a lot
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You are welcome

QUOTE(Yasmin @ Dec 7 2007, 10:23 AM) *

i cudnt find Sahir's Songs from Azadi ki raah par anywhere on earth
can u help me in it sir ?

Yasmin,

I don't have any. Anjvajay recently uploaded ' dil fida karte hain' song; but it is not written by Sahir.

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post Dec 16 2007, 08:39 AM
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QUOTE(Hari Ram @ Dec 1 2007, 08:40 AM) *

QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ Nov 30 2007, 07:07 PM) *

Okay, only this much for today... rolleyes.gif will hopefully complete this by the weekend... In the meantime, if anyone has a good audio copy of "Ye Ishq Ishq Hai" please do upload.

Madhavi,

I have the following three audios of this song:

yeh ishq ishq hai ishq ishq - 7:08 min
naa to kaarwaan ki talaash hai - 7:22 & 11:53min

The audio of 11:53 duration might be from Sukesh.
I can upload any of the above audios.

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Hari Ram and Aurous,

Sorry for the late reply, just saw this. Yes please, would really like either of you to upload the long version of "ye ishq ishq hai". (11:53mts).





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post Dec 16 2007, 09:42 PM
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Madhavi,

Here is your requested song.

Film: Barsaat Ki Raat (1960)
Music: Roshan
Lyrics: Sahir Ludhianvi
Singers: Manna Dey, S. D. Batish, Asha Bhosle, Sudha Malhotra, Mohammad Rafi
Title: na to kaarvan ki talaash hai, na to hamsafar ki talaash hai ... yeh ishq ishq hai, ishq ishq


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post Dec 17 2007, 01:05 AM
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Thank you Hari Ram, for your prompt upload.

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post Feb 26 2009, 01:17 PM
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Coming back to this thread after a while:

For Ajay: Miss his contributions in this forum and elsewhere.

Doraha(1952_Anil Biswas)

Mohabbat tark ki maine (abandoned/given up)
Gareban (outer clothers/cloak) see liya maine

Zamane ab to khush ho
Zehar ab ye bhi pee liya maine

Abhi zinda hoon lekin sochta rehta hoon ye dil mein(2)
Ke ab tak is tamanna ke sahare jee liya maine
Mohabbat tark...

Tujhe apna nahin sakta magar itna bhi kya kam hai(2)
Ke kuch ghadiyan tere khwabon mein khokar jee liya maine
Mohabbat...

Bas Ab to mera daman chhod do bekar umeedon
Bahut dukh seh liye maine bahut din ji liya maine
Mohabbat tark


Thus he begins his successful film career, resplendent with songs of love, stating in the very first line of his very first song, that he has abandoned it. This tussle with the emotion, the tension between desire and despair, is one of the central motifs of Sahir's poetry. It is in expressing this that he is at his most personal.

The lover has abandoned love, he has covered his vulnerability (gareban see liya...) and he turns to the rest of the world... are you satisfied, now that I have taken this poison... Sahir's lover still seems involved with the world, even when he is in the throes of rejecting it...

In fact the song has a number of themes that are central to Sahir's poems/lyrics. The loneliness of the lover, the "antagonistic" world, the woman who can never be his etc.

I have a question. I was closely following the lyrics of the song when I realised that it differs slightly from the lyrics of the poem,(I checked a couple of places on the web). Could not find much information on it apart from the fact that this was his first song for films, and that he got the job with the help of Prem Dhawan, who recommended him to Anil Biswas, and who penned the other Talat song in the film. The third Talat solo was written by someone else (am forgetting his name). Back to my question: Was the song previously part of some collection, that Sahir used for the film later? He has done that with some other poems too.

Here are the lyrics of the poem

Mohabbat Tark Ki Main Ne Garebaan Si Liyaa Main Ne
Zamaane Ab To Khush Ho Zahar Ye Bhee Pi Liyaa Main Ne

Abhee Zindaa Hun Lekin Sochataa Rahataa Hun Khalvat Mein
Ki Ab Tak Kis Tamannaa Ke Sahaare Ji Liyaa Main Ne
[Khalvat=solitude]

Unhen Apanaa Nahin Sakataa Magar Itanaa Bhee Kyaa Kam Hai
Ki Kuchh Muddat Hasin Khvaabon Mein Kho Kar Ji Liyaa Main Ne

Bas Ab To Daaman-E-Dil Chhod Do Bekaar Ummido
Bahut Dukh Sah Liye Main Ne Bahut Din Ji Liyaa Main Ne

In the last stanza, he calls upon his hope to let him go, he is tired of this struggle and beautifully captures it in the simple repetion of the word "bahut": "Bahut dukh seh liye maine/Bahut din ji liya maine" Sahir has this knack of delivering his punch lines with incredible simplicity: Bahut dukh seh liye maine/Bahut din ji liya maine... you cannot analyse these lines to death, they are what they mean and yet they form the core of Sahir's existential angst. They take me straight to another incredible song: "Teri duniya main jeene se/To behtar hai ke mar jayen..." You cannot get more direct than this and yet what resonances the song sets up!

And Talat's rendition... that direct vulnerability is so appealing.

Of the many copies of Mohabbat Tarq Ki Maine that I have, I could not find a single clear one. Can someone upload a good copy of the song?



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QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ Feb 26 2009, 03:47 AM) *

Coming back to this thread after a while:

For Ajay: Miss his contributions in this forum and elsewhere.

Doraha(1952_Anil Biswas)

Mohabbat tark ki maine (abandoned/given up)
Gareban (outer clothers/cloak) see liya maine

Zamane ab to khush ho
Zehar ab ye bhi pee liya maine

Abhi zinda hoon lekin sochta rehta hoon ye dil mein(2)
Ke ab tak is tamanna ke sahare jee liya maine
Mohabbat tark...

Tujhe apna nahin sakta magar itna bhi kya kam hai(2)
Ke kuch ghadiyan tere khwabon mein khokar jee liya maine
Mohabbat...

Bas Ab to mera daman chhod do bekar umeedon
Bahut dukh seh liye maine bahut din ji liya maine
Mohabbat tark


Thus he begins his successful film career, resplendent with songs of love, stating in the very first line of his very first song, that he has abandoned it. This tussle with the emotion, the tension between desire and despair, is one of the central motifs of Sahir's poetry. It is in expressing this that he is at his most personal.

The lover has abandoned love, he has covered his vulnerability (gareban see liya...) and he turns to the rest of the world... are you satisfied, now that I have taken this poison... Sahir's lover still seems involved with the world, even when he is in the throes of rejecting it...

In fact the song has a number of themes that are central to Sahir's poems/lyrics. The loneliness of the lover, the "antagonistic" world, the woman who can never be his etc.

I have a question. I was closely following the lyrics of the song when I realised that it differs slightly from the lyrics of the poem,(I checked a couple of places on the web). Could not find much information on it apart from the fact that this was his first song for films, and that he got the job with the help of Prem Dhawan, who recommended him to Anil Biswas, and who penned the other Talat song in the film. The third Talat solo was written by someone else (am forgetting his name). Back to my question: Was the song previously part of some collection, that Sahir used for the film later? He has done that with some other poems too.

Here are the lyrics of the poem

Mohabbat Tark Ki Main Ne Garebaan Si Liyaa Main Ne
Zamaane Ab To Khush Ho Zahar Ye Bhee Pi Liyaa Main Ne

Abhee Zindaa Hun Lekin Sochataa Rahataa Hun Khalvat Mein
Ki Ab Tak Kis Tamannaa Ke Sahaare Ji Liyaa Main Ne
[Khalvat=solitude]

Unhen Apanaa Nahin Sakataa Magar Itanaa Bhee Kyaa Kam Hai
Ki Kuchh Muddat Hasin Khvaabon Mein Kho Kar Ji Liyaa Main Ne

Bas Ab To Daaman-E-Dil Chhod Do Bekaar Ummido
Bahut Dukh Sah Liye Main Ne Bahut Din Ji Liyaa Main Ne

In the last stanza, he calls upon his hope to let him go, he is tired of this struggle and beautifully captures it in the simple repetion of the word "bahut": "Bahut dukh seh liye maine/Bahut din ji liya maine" Sahir has this knack of delivering his punch lines with incredible simplicity: Bahut dukh seh liye maine/Bahut din ji liya maine... you cannot analyse these lines to death, they are what they mean and yet they form the core of Sahir's existential angst. They take me straight to another incredible song: "Teri duniya main jeene se/To behtar hai ke mar jayen..." You cannot get more direct than this and yet what resonances the song sets up!

And Talat's rendition... that direct vulnerability is so appealing.

Of the many copies of Mohabbat Tarq Ki Maine that I have, I could not find a single clear one. Can someone upload a good copy of the song?


Excellent write-up Madhavi, as usual! Great 2 have you back on your lovely thread. Keep posting. I really enjoy reading your insightful posts. Even I'm looking for a good copy of Mohabbat Tarq Ki Maine sad1.gif

Attached Imageto ma fav. poet, Sahir!



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post Mar 9 2009, 08:23 AM
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mp3 file is from TalatMahmood.net digitally remastered version.

m4a file is my cleaning of it. both sound terrible on headphone
but fine on my laptop speaker.


Third lyricist was Josh Malihabadi.


P.S. do you guys remember when priyaji posted some cartoon images
(scences from ramayana)
making fun of Unniji. Well the whole movie is released now.
Sita Sings the Blues. Probably not for Traditionalists.

Download the mpeg4 file.
http://www.archive.org/details/Sita_Sings_the_Blues

or see streamed version
http://www.thirteen.org/sites/reel13/blog/...ues-online/347/

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thx r&d

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Thanks Anu smile.gif

Thanks Rajnish. Your version is certainly cleaner than mine.

Will check out the movie. Is it very long?

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QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ Mar 8 2009, 11:48 PM) *

Thanks Anu smile.gif

Thanks Rajnish. Your version is certainly cleaner than mine.

Will check out the movie. Is it very long?


haven't downloaded it yet. just read blog posting about it.

Run time: 01:21:31

Summary:
Sita is a goddess separated from her beloved Lord and husband Rama. Nina is an animator whose husband moves to India, then dumps her by email. Three hilarious shadow puppets narrate both ancient tragedy and modern comedy in this beautifully animated interpretation of the Indian epic Ramayana. Set to the 1920's jazz vocals of Annette Hanshaw, Sita Sings the Blues earns its tagline as "the Greatest Break-Up Story Ever Told."
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QUOTE(r&d @ Mar 8 2009, 10:53 PM) *

mp3 file is from TalatMahmood.net digitally remastered version.

m4a file is my cleaning of it. both sound terrible on headphone
but fine on my laptop speaker.


Third lyricist was Josh Malihabadi.


P.S. do you guys remember when priyaji posted some cartoon images
(scences from ramayana)
making fun of Unniji. Well the whole movie is released now.
Sita Sings the Blues. Probably not for Traditionalists.

Download the mpeg4 file.
http://www.archive.org/details/Sita_Sings_the_Blues

or see streamed version
http://www.thirteen.org/sites/reel13/blog/...ues-online/347/


Thanks a lot for the better versions, Rajnishji!
Downloading the movie file. Will check it out this weekend! Thanks for the links! smile.gif
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Chaahe Dekhe Ghur Ke Chaahe De Gaaliya Humein Pasand Hai

Film : Sachche Moti (1962)
Singer : Mohd.Rafi & Asha Bhosle
Music : N. Dutta
Lyrics : Sahir Ludhianvi
Duration : 3.24mins





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QUOTE(r&d @ Mar 9 2009, 02:05 AM) *

QUOTE(mmuk2004 @ Mar 8 2009, 11:48 PM) *

Thanks Anu smile.gif

Thanks Rajnish. Your version is certainly cleaner than mine.

Will check out the movie. Is it very long?


haven't downloaded it yet. just read blog posting about it.

Run time: 01:21:31

Summary:
Sita is a goddess separated from her beloved Lord and husband Rama. Nina is an animator whose husband moves to India, then dumps her by email. Three hilarious shadow puppets narrate both ancient tragedy and modern comedy in this beautifully animated interpretation of the Indian epic Ramayana. Set to the 1920's jazz vocals of Annette Hanshaw, Sita Sings the Blues earns its tagline as "the Greatest Break-Up Story Ever Told."


Rajnish,

Finally saw the movie. Thanks for recommending it. I have written a few lines on it here, in the Hollywood review section : http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?show...mp;#entry590144
Did you manage to see it?

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BC-ur new avtaar- neither do u look like a bawla nor a chintu
u look like a experienced suave seducer.
and Mmuk-ur one side lat looks superb.
now back to business

Aaj Ki Raat Nahin shikwe shikayat ki raat
aaj har lamha mohabbat ke liye
reshmi.......
...........
...........
subah ne aaj na aane ki kasam khayi hai
aaj ki raat......

a top class suhaag raat song.
another SL classic


CM2ji, here is your request...


Aaj Ki Raat (Dharamputra:1961:Mahendra Kapoor)

Aaj ki raat nahin shikwe shikayat ke liye
Aaj har lamha har ek pal hai mohabbat ke liye
Reshmi sej hai mehki hui tanhai hai
Aaj ki raat muraadon ki baraat aayi hai
Aaj ki raat...

Har gunaah aaj muqaddas hai farishton ki tarha
Kaapte haathon ko mil jane do rishon ki tarha
Aaj milne mein na uljhan hai na rusvai hai
Aaj ki raat muraadon ki baraat aayi hai
Aaj ki raat...

Apni zulfein mere shaaney pe bikhar jane do
Is haseen raat ko kuchh aur nikhar jane do
Subha na aaj na aane ki kasam khayi hai
Aaj ki raat...


A pure moment dedicated to love...
from "Mohabbat tark ki maine, gareeban see liya maine..." to this declaration, that no complaints, no dissatisfaction will be allowed to mar this pure moment of love. The lover insists that every second, every moment be dedicated to love.

"Aaj ki raat nahin shikwe shikayat ke liye
Aaj har lamha har ek pal hai mohabbat ke liye"


The stage is set, silken and lavish for the lovers, filled with the fragrance of solitude... This night comes filled with desires.

Note how often the phrase "Aaj Ki raat" and "Aaj" are repeated in the song...the lover wants to hold this moment, this night and Sahir stretches the moment by the insistent repetition of the phrase "Aaj ki raat" and "Aaj."

The lover wants to keep this moment free from any blemish...

Har gunaah aaj muqaddas(sanctified) hai farishton ki tarha
Kaapte haathon ko mil jane do rishon ki tarha
Aaj milne mein na uljhan hai na rusvai hai
Aaj ki raat muraadon ki baraat aayi hai
Aaj ki raat...


Every crime is sanctified like the angels
Let the trembling hands meet like relationships...
There is nothing to stop this union, no complications, no dishonor,
This night comes filled with desires...

And in the third stanza, he sets the stage for the pure, iconic pose of love. Spread your hair over my shoulders to make the night even more beautiful(Sahir's romantic poetry is replete with sensuous images of "bikhri zulfein") and after he has captured this moment... time holds still. "Subha na aaj na aane ki kasam khayi hai..."

Apni zulfein mere shaaney pe bikhar jane do
Is haseen raat ko kuchh aur nikhar jane do
Subha na aaj na aane ki kasam khayi hai
Aaj ki raat...


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another SL classic

CM2ji, will remember you when this song is played... bow.gif

Here is the Youtube link to the song. Can someone please upload this song.



















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In memory of Cinemaniac2ji.

Dharamputra (1961) - Aaj Ki Raat
Singer- Mahendra Kapoor
MD- N. Dutta
Lyrics- Sahir Ludhianvi
Duration- 3:07 mins
Bitrate- 192kbps
Format- mp3


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