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, Talat Mahmood's Unique Voice

 
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post Nov 29 2004, 04:51 AM
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Talat Mahmood - Private Recording - Non-film:




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post Nov 30 2004, 12:23 AM
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I hardly ever listen to Talat Mehmood. But, as you are aware, I am in the process of uploading my tapes to MP3. I have found 2 old Talat Mehmood (or I think its him) tapes lying around. Here is one of the tracks. Is it rare or common ? and shall I upload more from these tapes.

Yeh Kya Hai Dhang

Any info would be appreciated.

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post Nov 30 2004, 12:30 AM
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Just a stray thought.

Strangely, it stems from a topic in another thread, about whether one became a fan of Mohd. Rafi before or after his demise.

I had put in my 2-cents that it is natural that someone like me should be a fan of the singer, for after all, we grew up listening to that voice. Whereas "new" fans are more authentic in their appreciation of the music and the song-rendering, and not carried away by the aura of the star on whom it was picturised, or by the success of the movie. That they would be "put off" by the quality of the old black-and-white picturizations, yet should appreciate the singing.

In a similar vein, I did enjoy the recent colour mega-production "DEVDAS". I was impressed with the colour and the costumes and the dances and the sets. Just by the sheer grandeur of it all!

Did it have any degree of "authenticity"? Did it bear any semblance to the original novel? Hardly.

But then, whereas my daughters loved the new "DEVDAS", they would have no patience with the earlier black & white Bimal Roy version.

I made it a point to revisit the earlier version.

The new version should more aptly been titled "Devi aur Devdasi" --- in my opinion, Aishwarya Rai and Madhuri Dixit dominated the movie. Shah Rukh playing the role of Devdas, I thought, was virtually incidental.

Whereas, in the old version, two things stand out for me:

Dilip Kumar's portrayal of the role, with the memorable lines, "Kaun kambakht peene ke liye peeta hai?" and the transcendental rendering by Talat-sahab of "Mitua" with hardly any accompanying background music.

Even long ago, the song was special to me. Without even identifying the movie or the star.

Musical milestones and memories are made of such great renditions.

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post Nov 30 2004, 12:52 AM
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QUOTE(rafi_rules @ Nov 30 2004, 12:23 AM)
Yeh Kya Hai Dhang

Any info would be appreciated.
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I shall revisit Unni's wandering thought, next time. wink2.gif
Here's the much appreciated info that Akhtar would appreciate to appreciate, or we hope that such info is appreciated by the appreciative masses that might even include Akhtar, in his all appreciative glory.

Without having downloaded the file, the song could be the following:

Song: Yeh Kya Hai Dhang Zamane Ka
Film: Daak Babu
M. D: Dhani Ram
Year: 1954
Duration: 3:12

This song also appears on the Legends series, Talat Mahmood The Silken Voice collection, CD 2.

Akhtar, you're free to upload, either here or in the Files Section, under Shuklas' Talat Mahmood thread. If you would ever 'surprisingly' feel drawn towards some mesmerizingly beautiful renditions of Talat sahab and would like some recommendations, do let us know.



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post Nov 30 2004, 01:00 AM
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Extenok-ji,

Usually I would upload, but I reckon most of them are common songs.

Here are some of thier names

-Sunaoon Kisko Afsana
-Bechain Nazar
-Sach Bata Tu Mujhe Pe Fida
-Kah Rahi Hai Dhadkanen
-Tim Tim Tim

Is this the 'Legends' Series ?


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post Nov 30 2004, 01:13 AM
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Yes, the attached image is the Legend series.
Unni, Mohd or Cinemaniac2 would be the experts to call Talat Mahmood songs rare or common. I am just a greedy collector. Let's just wait for their verdict on these.

By the way, I probably haven't exposed this earlier, but my favourite romantic song by Talat Mahmood has to be 'Bechain Nazar'. If not for the voice then definitely for the simple yet alluring old melody of C. Ramchander. And the words, how can one even hope to weave such beautiful words into such a song.



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post Nov 30 2004, 12:30 PM
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Thanks Akhtar for the U/L of Talat Saab's rare gem.

I would request Rafi Rules to Upload -
1-Sach bata kyun mujhpe fida...from film- SONE KI CHIDIYA (1959). I have in lower bitrate.
2-Keh rahi hai dhadkanen..Talat & Gita..
From the mentioned Legend series.

Thanks in advance,

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post Nov 30 2004, 11:39 PM
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Mohd-ji,

I am afraid there is some confusion. I do not have the Legends series, I was jsut posting the cover.

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QUOTE(mohd2004 @ Nov 29 2004, 11:00 PM)
Thanks Akhtar for the U/L of Talat Saab's rare gem. 

I would request Rafi Rules to Upload -
1-Sach bata kyun mujhpe fida...from film- SONE KI CHIDIYA (1959).  I have in lower bitrate.
2-Keh rahi hai dhadkanen..Talat & Gita..
From the mentioned Legend series.

Thanks in advance,

Mohd.
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Which volume are these from?
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post Dec 1 2004, 12:24 AM
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QUOTE(mohd2004 @ Nov 30 2004, 03:00 AM)
Sach bata kyun mujhpe fida...from film- SONE KI CHIDIYA (1959).  I have in lower bitrate.
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Chitz:

I found it.


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post Dec 1 2004, 12:28 AM
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QUOTE(unni @ Nov 30 2004, 10:54 AM)
QUOTE(mohd2004 @ Nov 30 2004, 03:00 AM)
Sach bata kyun mujhpe fida...from film- SONE KI CHIDIYA (1959).  I have in lower bitrate.
Mohd.
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Chitz:

I found it.


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Thanks smile1.gif for the song. I was wondering cuz I have two of these albums but this one is not in there. It has this other song from Sone Ki Chidiya "pyaar par bas to nahin" a duet with Ashaji.
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post Dec 1 2004, 12:36 AM
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QUOTE(Chitralekha @ Nov 30 2004, 02:58 PM)
Thanks smile1.gif for the song. I was wondering cuz I have two of these albums but this one is not in there. It has this other song from Sone Ki Chidiya "pyaar par bas to nahin" a duet with Ashaji.
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We still have to find the Talat/Geeta duet. I wonder if Imran could help us.

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QUOTE(unni @ Dec 1 2004, 12:36 AM)
QUOTE(Chitralekha @ Nov 30 2004, 02:58 PM)
Thanks smile1.gif for the song. I was wondering cuz I have two of these albums but this one is not in there. It has this other song from Sone Ki Chidiya "pyaar par bas to nahin" a duet with Ashaji.
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We still have to find the Talat/Geeta duet. I wonder if Imran could help us.
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Madam C, that other song is one fine example of Talat sahab's underrated ability to infuse warmth & romance into a song.

Now to the rescuing part ...

Song: Keh Rahi Hain Dhadkane Pukaar
Singer: Talat, Geeta
Film: Laal Pari
M.D: Hansraj Behl
Lyrics: Asad Bhopali
Duration: 3:17


Kahin aisa na ho paaun mere tharra jayein
Aur teri marmari baahon ka sahaara na milay
Ashk behtay rahain khamosh siyaah raaton mein
Aur tere raeshmi aanchal ka kinaara na milay



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post Dec 2 2004, 09:07 AM
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Imran:

Instead of sending a PM, I am posting this since I also want to run this by Mohd.-ji and other Talat fans.

I have some songs of Talat Mahmood that may not be considered 'rare' by the sophisticated Talat fans in HF.

But anyway, for a start, here's the first listing of tracks. A second list will be posted later.

Please let me know if you or any of our members would like me to upload any of these:

Sapnon ki suhani duniya mein (SHIKAST)
Mujhe dekho hasrat ki (BAAZ)
Kabhi hai gham kabhi khushiyan (WARIS) --- rare?tongue.gif
Zindagi mein aaye jab woh (DAK BABU)
Mohabbat ki ham chot khaye huye hain (FARMAISH)
Jise dil mein basana chaha (ADA)
Gham na kar (SHAHZADA)
Hai yeh wohi aasman (CHAR CHAND) --- rare? tongue.gif
Sunauon kis ko fasana (SHIRIN FARHAD)
Yeh ansoon khushi ke ansoon (EK NAZAR)
Yeh bebasi yeh mera hale jaar ((ALIF LAILA)
Aa bhi ja meri duniya mein (DAERA)
Jiyunga jab talak (CHINGARI)
Mitne de meri zindagi (MEHRBANI)

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Yes pls. Can I have these?

Sapnon ki suhani duniya mein (SHIKAST)
Mujhe dekho hasrat ki (BAAZ)
Kabhi hai gham kabhi khushiyan (WARIS) --- rare?
Zindagi mein aaye jab woh (DAK BABU)
Mohabbat ki ham chot khaye huye hain (FARMAISH)
Hai yeh wohi aasman (CHAR CHAND) --- rare?
Yeh ansoon khushi ke ansoon (EK NAZAR)
Yeh bebasi yeh mera hale jaar ((ALIF LAILA)
Aa bhi ja meri duniya mein (DAERA)
Jiyunga jab talak (CHINGARI)
Mitne de meri zindagi (MEHRBANI)

Btw, if anyone wants, I have these: biggrin.gif

Aawaaz - Dil Deewana Dil Mastana (With Lata Mangeshkar)
Adl-E-Jehangir - Aye Meri Zindagi
Adl-E-Jehangir - Chand Sitare Karte Ishare
Armaan - Bharam Teri Wafaon Ke
Arzoo - Aye Dil Mujhe Aisi Jagah Le Chal
Babul - Mera Jeevan Saathi
Bahu - Thandi Hawaon Mein (With Geeta Dutt)
Baradari - Tasveer Banata Hoon
Bewafaa - Tu Aaye Na Aaye
Captain Kishore - Badal Jaaye Duniya
Chand Ki Deewar - Ashkon Ke Jo Paya Hai
Chhaya - Aansoo Samajh Ke Kyon Mujhe
Chhote Babu - Do Din Ki Mohabbat Mein Hum Ne
Daag - Aye Mere Dil Kahin Aur Chal
Daag - Hum Dard Ke Maron Ko
Dekh Kabira Roya - Hum Se Aaya Na Gaya
Devdas - Kisko Khabar Thi
Devdas - Mitwa Lagi Re Yeh Kaisi
Dil-E-Naadan - Zindagi Denewale Sun
Diwali Ki Raat - Yeh Khushi Ka Sama
Do Raha - Mohabbat Turk Ki Maine
Ek Gaon Ki Kahani - Raat Ne Kya Kya Khwaab
Ek Saal - Sab Kuch Luta Ke Hosh
Footpath - Shaam-E-Gham Ki Kasam
Insaaf - Do Dil Dhadak Rahe Hai (With Asha Bhosle)
Jahan Ara - Phir Wohi Shaam Wohi Gham
Joru Ka Bhai - Teri Zulfon Se Pyaar
Kavi - Main Peeke Nahin Aaya
Kinare Kinare - Dekh Li Teri Khudai
Laila Majnu - Chal Diya Caravan
Lala Rookh - Aana Hi Padega
Madhosh - Meri Yaad Mein Tum Na Aansoo Bahana
Memsahib - Kahta Hai Dil Tum Ko (With Asha Bhosle)
Mera Salam - Har Shaam Shaam-E-Gham
Mirza Ghalib - Phir Mujhe Deedar-E-Tar
Nagma - Milte Hi Nazar Unse
Naqab - Tera Khayaal Dil Ko
Parchhain - Woh Zaalim Pyaar Kya Jaane
Pocket Maar - Yeh Nayi Nayi Preet Hai (With Lata Mangeshkar)
Raftar - Sahara Koi Mil Jaata
Rang Rang - Aur Hai Dil Ki Lagi
Samudari Daku - Dil Jawaan Hai Aarzoo Jawaan
Shahzada - Gham Na Kar Khushi Ka Daur Aayega
Shikast - Toofan Mein Ghiri
Shirin Farhad - Sunaau Kisko Afsana
Sone Ki Chidiya - Pyaar Par Bas To Nahin (With Asha Bhosle).M
Tarana - Jali Jo Shaakh
Taxi Driver - Jaayen To Jaayen Kahaan
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