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| OMkar |
 Nov 7 2007, 12:24 AM
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QUOTE(King Rafi @ Nov 6 2007, 10:57 PM)  I am overwhelmed by the love all of you have shown me here. But sometimes it pains when your near and dear ones don't appreciate whatever you create. sometimes it helps because pain also helps to create beautiful music. presenting perhaps my best effort yet... Shaam-e-gham ki kasam, Footpath, Khaiyyam and Talat at his velvety best! http://www.esnips.com/doc/4f820378-ddd1-45...e-with-Karaoke) Yaar Tujhe Kya Kahun!!! Teri Awaaz Kya Class Hai Re!! Your voice is really very youthful... Sanjay, hai ke nahi?? Lekin..... Ek Galti Ho Gayi... There are some places, where you have missed the beats yaar!!! Thoda off beat ho gaya!! I would sincerely request you to re-record it... And let me then download it!! I sincerely hope that I am not wrong. Par Yaar Teri Awaaaz Kya Jadubhari Hai Re!!  Please and please re-record ya Re-mix karna yaar!! Check it well.. And let me know if I am wrong!!  Only THIS MOMENT is in my hand and I just want to live that Perfectly!!!  |
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| OMkar |
Nov 7 2007, 12:26 AM
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Dedicated Member Group: Members Posts: 2510 Joined: 30-November 06 From: Newcastle, UK Member No.: 7772 |
QUOTE(OMkar @ Nov 6 2007, 08:23 PM) Doston, A Message from GEET: BIG thanks for appreciating her song 'Chanda O Chanda' and feeling very sad that she can not even post the THANKS message by herself and requesting all of us to request admin to sort this problem as soon as possible. She also want the Karaoke track of 'Pyar Do Pyar Lo' from the movie 'JaanBaaz'.. Harish, I think u have some software to make karaoke track from any Stereo track. Why dont u try it on this song GEET requested? Kuchh Ho Sakta Hai Kya Yaar? I will also check it in my collection!! Sanjay, Harish, Anwarbhai, IDOL-behenj and everyone!!! Any update on this ? Only THIS MOMENT is in my hand and I just want to live that Perfectly!!! |
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| King Rafi |
Nov 7 2007, 01:06 AM
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 Member Group: Members Posts: 216 Joined: 12-April 07 From: Mumbai Member No.: 13821 |
@OMkar bhai, thanks for your kind words. I am weak on the beat part and it is good that I am learning it from you. It will help me if you can pinpoint where i missed the beat. Actually, i finalised it on take 2, without going through more editions, as i thought it is good enuff! But I like people who are perfectionists!
Regarding the JAANBAAZ karaoke, I don't have the original song. If you can upload the original song somewhere, or locate it on esnips and give me the URL, I'll see if I can devocalise it with the software I have. Meanwhile, I have uploaded 'Pukarta Chala Hun Main' as requested by you, in the Rafi section. Harish When it comes to singing, first comes Rafi saab. Then comes God.
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| OMkar |
Nov 7 2007, 03:46 AM
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Dedicated Member Group: Members Posts: 2510 Joined: 30-November 06 From: Newcastle, UK Member No.: 7772 |
QUOTE(King Rafi @ Nov 7 2007, 01:06 AM) @OMkar bhai, thanks for your kind words. I am weak on the beat part and it is good that I am learning it from you. It will help me if you can pinpoint where i missed the beat. Actually, i finalised it on take 2, without going through more editions, as i thought it is good enuff! But I like people who are perfectionists! Regarding the JAANBAAZ karaoke, I don't have the original song. If you can upload the original song somewhere, or locate it on esnips and give me the URL, I'll see if I can devocalise it with the software I have. Meanwhile, I have uploaded 'Pukarta Chala Hun Main' as requested by you, in the Rafi section. Harish Yaar Harish, luckily I used to play Tabla when I was a kid and I was quite good at it and used to accompany my father in his programms, Mehfils. I always thank my father for sending me for Tabla Classes  Lakh Lakh Pranam Unhe!! This song is using basically set on two set of beats. First set is Single Beat and second set is Two Beats. So you have to start on second SET. Hear the attached clip! Hope you dont mind me teaching to you who is already such a good singer and owner of lovely voice. And please do not mind my swar in this clip... I have not mastered the song, just recorded the explanation about the beats. Sincerely hope it helps you! Your beginning is fine, but you miss the beat somewhere at 'Aaja mere sanam' and totally missed in the lines 'Dil pareshan hai...' And then check the complete song as well if its on correct beat. Sorry to point it out this way yaar  Hope u dont mind! And after u check, please do record once again, I would LOVE to have your version of this song  Dost, Please Galti Maaf Karna! And here is the track 'Pyar do pyar lo' for you to devocalize it for GEET http://www.sendspace.com/file/clik5j Cheers!! Only THIS MOMENT is in my hand and I just want to live that Perfectly!!! |
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| sanjkash |
Nov 7 2007, 04:34 AM
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 Regular Member Group: Members Posts: 862 Joined: 16-January 07 Member No.: 9573 |
QUOTE(OMkar @ Nov 6 2007, 11:16 PM) QUOTE(King Rafi @ Nov 7 2007, 01:06 AM) @OMkar bhai, thanks for your kind words. I am weak on the beat part and it is good that I am learning it from you. It will help me if you can pinpoint where i missed the beat. Actually, i finalised it on take 2, without going through more editions, as i thought it is good enuff! But I like people who are perfectionists! Regarding the JAANBAAZ karaoke, I don't have the original song. If you can upload the original song somewhere, or locate it on esnips and give me the URL, I'll see if I can devocalise it with the software I have. Meanwhile, I have uploaded 'Pukarta Chala Hun Main' as requested by you, in the Rafi section. Harish Yaar Harish, luckily I used to play Tabla when I was a kid and I was quite good at it and used to accompany my father in his programms, Mehfils. I always thank my father for sending me for Tabla Classes Lakh Lakh Pranam Unhe!! This song is using basically set on two set of beats. First set is Single Beat and second set is Two Beats. So you have to start on second SET. Hear the attached clip! Hope you dont mind me teaching to you who is already such a good singer and owner of lovely voice. And please do not mind my swar in this clip... I have not mastered the song, just recorded the explanation about the beats. Sincerely hope it helps you! Your beginning is fine, but you miss the beat somewhere at 'Aaja mere sanam' and totally missed in the lines 'Dil pareshan hai...' And then check the complete song as well if its on correct beat. Sorry to point it out this way yaar Hope u dont mind! And after u check, please do record once again, I would LOVE to have your version of this song Dost, Please Galti Maaf Karna! Cheers!! Harish dada, It seems this is indeed an area for improvement for you. There are two occcasions, first one appeared in "Beqarar dil tu gayeja" and now "Sham-e-ghum ki kasam". I am sure you are taking my observations positively to get to perfection. OMkar bhau is right there to notice that in this song, but I was suprised to see no coment from the Chela on "Beqarar dil" (may be I am wrong there). Anyway, this is a very small thing for improvement, otherwise the singing, the clear voice, the feelings are just great. I would have loved more of Talat style wavering/modulations (which I think is god given and definatey not easy to reproduce). Again, do not worry too much about off beat, you are simply doing fine and as you practice you will get it. You have done an excellent job and we appreciate your singing multitalent. OMkar bhau, right critics will have positve effect on all of us and based on your (Tabla) skills you had good right in pointing this out. Sanjay |
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| sanjkash |
Nov 7 2007, 04:43 AM
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Oh my god. Pardesh mein rehkar to diwali ka koi patahi nahee chalta.
HAPPY DIWALI TO ALL Sanjay |
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| OMkar |
Nov 7 2007, 04:45 AM
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Dedicated Member Group: Members Posts: 2510 Joined: 30-November 06 From: Newcastle, UK Member No.: 7772 |
QUOTE(sanjkash @ Nov 7 2007, 04:34 AM) QUOTE(OMkar @ Nov 6 2007, 11:16 PM) QUOTE(King Rafi @ Nov 7 2007, 01:06 AM) @OMkar bhai, thanks for your kind words. I am weak on the beat part and it is good that I am learning it from you. It will help me if you can pinpoint where i missed the beat. Actually, i finalised it on take 2, without going through more editions, as i thought it is good enuff! But I like people who are perfectionists! Regarding the JAANBAAZ karaoke, I don't have the original song. If you can upload the original song somewhere, or locate it on esnips and give me the URL, I'll see if I can devocalise it with the software I have. Meanwhile, I have uploaded 'Pukarta Chala Hun Main' as requested by you, in the Rafi section. Harish Yaar Harish, luckily I used to play Tabla when I was a kid and I was quite good at it and used to accompany my father in his programms, Mehfils. I always thank my father for sending me for Tabla Classes Lakh Lakh Pranam Unhe!! This song is using basically set on two set of beats. First set is Single Beat and second set is Two Beats. So you have to start on second SET. Hear the attached clip! Hope you dont mind me teaching to you who is already such a good singer and owner of lovely voice. And please do not mind my swar in this clip... I have not mastered the song, just recorded the explanation about the beats. Sincerely hope it helps you! Your beginning is fine, but you miss the beat somewhere at 'Aaja mere sanam' and totally missed in the lines 'Dil pareshan hai...' And then check the complete song as well if its on correct beat. Sorry to point it out this way yaar Hope u dont mind! And after u check, please do record once again, I would LOVE to have your version of this song Dost, Please Galti Maaf Karna! Cheers!! Harish dada, It seems this is indeed an area for improvement for you. There are two occcasions, first one appeared in "Beqarar dil tu gayeja" (Page 3) and now "Sham-e-ghum ki kasam". I am sure you are taking my observations positively to get to perfection. OMkar bhau is right there to notice that in this song, but I was suprised to see no coment from the Chela on "Beqarar dil" (may be I am wrong there). Anyway, this is a very small thing for improvement, otherwise the singing, the clear voice, the feelings are just great. I would have loved more of Talat style wavering/modulations (which I think is god given and definatey not easy to reproduce). Again, do not worry too much about off beat, you are simply doing fine and as you practice you will get it. You have done an excellent job and we appreciate your singing multitalent. OMkar bhau, right critics will have positve effect on all of us and based on your (Tabla) skills you had good right in pointing this out. Sanjay Sanjay, you see the Mehfil has just started. Hum Sab Ne Milkar Ek Beej Boya Tha, Ab Kahin Jaake Ek Chhotasa Paudha Aaya Hain. Shuruwat Mein Jyada Dhoop Denge To Paudha Murjha Jayega!!! So we have to protect it from harsh sun light and support it to grow and then gradually we will let it grow on its own!! Dheere dheere we have to become more and more free with each others and then only we can really grow!! And there is no fix time limit to achieve this... Let hope we get more and more members to participate and be comfortable with each other!! Cross fingers!  Sorry Sanjay, but I beg to differ! Never make mistake in beat and sur... Thats always the biggest rule of singing. Does not matter if you can not put expressions, but if u miss beat or sur, the song is not good at all. I request you to take my word for it!! Only THIS MOMENT is in my hand and I just want to live that Perfectly!!! |
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| IDOL |
Nov 7 2007, 05:52 AM
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 Dedicated Member Group: Members Posts: 5434 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Calgary, Canada Member No.: 1583 |
Happy dipvali for singers
 by the way, my singing show is cancelled, a sigh of relief!!!  .......................................................................
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| IDOL |
Nov 7 2007, 09:34 AM
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Dedicated Member Group: Members Posts: 5434 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Calgary, Canada Member No.: 1583 |
The bandish we're workin in class is based on raag yaman.........so i am sharin that here.......but keep in mind, i am not done with raag yaman yet, meaning i am still learnin
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| King Rafi |
Nov 7 2007, 10:43 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 216 Joined: 12-April 07 From: Mumbai Member No.: 13821 |
OMkar bhai and Sanjay bhai,
thanks for your inputs, they are really invaluable. And I agree with OMkar bhai that "if u miss beat or sur, the song is not good at all". They are like spellings and grammar. One ca't write a great piece of literature with incorrect grammar. I'll download both the files now OMkar bhai and will check it out. BTW, how young are you all? I am 40.5 yrs old When it comes to singing, first comes Rafi saab. Then comes God.
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| IDOL |
Nov 7 2007, 10:46 AM
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Dedicated Member Group: Members Posts: 5434 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Calgary, Canada Member No.: 1583 |
by the way, Omkar, i need ur help on how to make the setting for karaoke.....voice mixing etc....i got only ONE karaoke, and i wanna sing with that
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| venkat |
Nov 7 2007, 12:30 PM
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Dedicated Member Group: Members Posts: 4889 Joined: 11-September 06 From: Hyderabad, India Member No.: 6841 |
QUOTE(King Rafi @ Nov 6 2007, 10:57 PM) I am overwhelmed by the love all of you have shown me here. But sometimes it pains when your near and dear ones don't appreciate whatever you create. sometimes it helps because pain also helps to create beautiful music. presenting perhaps my best effort yet... Shaam-e-gham ki kasam, Footpath, Khaiyyam and Talat at his velvety best! http://www.esnips.com/doc/4f820378-ddd1-45...e-with-Karaoke) King Rafi(Talat), As you have asked, here is a Feedback. 1.Overall, very good performance by you. 2.As I mentioned once earlier, your music tracks are once again accurate and this is one song wherein the opening and interlude musical bits are as important as the song. 3.You opened the song with "Shame Gham" in stead of "Shamein Gham" in the original. Am I right? But, your later repititions are Ok. 4.Next, at "Aabhi Jaa, Aabhi Jaa", the second "Aabhi Jaa" was dragged by you more than needed. It has to fall slightly shorter! Similar is the case with the "Kis Tarah" of "Dekh Jaa, Kis Tarah"! 5.In general, for this song, you need to adopt an even more controlled/whispering voice than what you actually did. Yeh Gaana Itna Bhi Khul Ke Nahin Gaana Chhahiye. These are my humble comments. Needless to say, the overall rendition was quite good on the ear. Venkat I have changed many views in life since my childhood, but not my view of Rafi Saab as the God-sent Gandharva who visited this Earth briefly to spread ultimate ecstasy among genuine music-lovers!
Mohammed Rafi: Highest Quantity Of Greatest Quality In Mind-boggling Variety!!! |
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| King Rafi |
Nov 7 2007, 12:35 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 216 Joined: 12-April 07 From: Mumbai Member No.: 13821 |
Thx Venkat! Good to know that veterans of the forum like you are looking at this thread! I'll note down your inputs.
KR When it comes to singing, first comes Rafi saab. Then comes God.
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| Amod |
Nov 7 2007, 02:42 PM
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#209
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Member Group: Members Posts: 296 Joined: 9-December 06 From: India Member No.: 8112 |
Hi All,
My go at 'Sham-e-gham ki kasam' Please comment ... Amod Log, ek taraf, maY ko sharaab kehtey hai Uss chasm-e-saaQee shaY ko janaab kehtey hai / |
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| behenji.turned.mod |
Nov 7 2007, 03:46 PM
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 Dedicated Member Group: Members Posts: 3013 Joined: 30-October 06 Member No.: 7547 |
u know.........many groups get together on yahoo messenger n conference...n merrily sing away there we should try that...hear ppl sing real time.. co ordinate n sign into yahoo what say? |
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