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post Nov 1 2007, 02:07 AM
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QUOTE(sanjkash @ Nov 1 2007, 01:45 AM) *
QUOTE(King Rafi @ Oct 30 2007, 08:41 PM) *

ohh, i forgot to answer sanjay's questions.

I don't think there is degradation in the quality on esnips. It's basically what you upload gets played.

I also don't see why Audacity shd not recognise the USB mic. I guess the problem is that Audacity is still pointing to the old mic source, and it has not yet been told of the existence of the new mic.

Sanjay, check the following
1. Under Control Panel > System > Hardware > Device Manager, ensure that the mic is properly installed
2. Under Control Panel > Sounds and Audio Devices > Audio >Sound Recording, ensure you have selected the USB mic as the default sound recorder
3. Under Audacity "Preferences", check the first tab Audio I/O. Check that the correct device is selected for recording.

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Thanks a lot Harish for the tip. The tip number 3 made the difference. In fact, I had already checked with the first two tips, but then I was expecting to see it (usb mic) as a choice in the recording option of Audacty (which did not appear, that is why I did not try further in Audacity). Anyway, now the things will get much easier. Thanks again.
Sanjay

Oh Good good... So you have sorted with the USB microphone, right? Could u pls tell us what make it is and how much u got it for and rest of the details??? smile.gif Eager to know... rolleyes.gif

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post Nov 1 2007, 02:09 AM
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QUOTE(OMkar @ Oct 30 2007, 11:41 PM) *

QUOTE(King Rafi @ Oct 31 2007, 02:12 AM) *
Yes I didn't realise sanjay saying he records using some other software. Which means he needs to check only step 3 as the first 2 shd be correct.

@omkar, I guess, when he records, he gives the source as 'mic' instead of 'mixer'. So even when he plays the karaoke music on the background (using any software), only what goes through the mic gets recorded. He then simply 'drags and drops' the 2 files in audacity. Of course, he needs to 'time-shift' the second wave which he can do for the first line only, and the rest will automatically fall into place.

btw, i hope u guys use headphones while recording, else a part of the music u listen will also get fed into the mic, and clarity will be lost.

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I tried to do this by adding time-shift to the second wave, but it need to be perfect and its sometimes difficult to calculate the exact timeshift. Is there any other way, Sanjay? Please let us know.

Oh yes, Harish, I use headphones while recording otherwise it will be really bad bad bad recording. I am only worried for my current mic quality. Hope to resolve it in coming few months. Lets see how it goes!!!


Friends,
Except few things, much of Harish said is correct (drag and drop is not a good idea).
So this is how I ususlly recorded
1) In Audacity, upload the music Karaoke track (listen to it see if it fits to vocal band then if necessary play with "Effects-Pitch" to get to whatever you want. May not be necessary for different singers)
2) Select "Microphone" as source for recordning
3) Start recording button and singing (this will play the karaoke track but will not be recorded, but whatever you sing into the microphone will get recorded into a new track)
4) Once the Karaoke track is finished you stop the recording
5) Now choose, the "Stereo Mix" as the playing source and push "Play" (this will play both the tracks, the karaoke track as well as the voice recorded track), listen and see if this is OK. The Timing in this case is always right as you listened the track and sang accordingly.
6) "Stop"
7) Now "Start recording" (push record button) using still the "Stereo Mix" as the source for playing (at this time the two previous tracks will played and you can listen the two tracks playing, while) a new track will be created using the input of these two tracks.
This is your final recorded track (karaoke plus voice).
8) "Stop" and "Save" the file and present to HF community and get the pleasure.
Hope this helps. You may have your own way of recording (if different and easier please share)
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post Nov 1 2007, 02:24 AM
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QUOTE(OMkar @ Oct 31 2007, 09:37 PM) *

QUOTE(sanjkash @ Nov 1 2007, 01:45 AM) *
QUOTE(King Rafi @ Oct 30 2007, 08:41 PM) *

ohh, i forgot to answer sanjay's questions.

I don't think there is degradation in the quality on esnips. It's basically what you upload gets played.

I also don't see why Audacity shd not recognise the USB mic. I guess the problem is that Audacity is still pointing to the old mic source, and it has not yet been told of the existence of the new mic.

Sanjay, check the following
1. Under Control Panel > System > Hardware > Device Manager, ensure that the mic is properly installed
2. Under Control Panel > Sounds and Audio Devices > Audio >Sound Recording, ensure you have selected the USB mic as the default sound recorder
3. Under Audacity "Preferences", check the first tab Audio I/O. Check that the correct device is selected for recording.

Harish


Thanks a lot Harish for the tip. The tip number 3 made the difference. In fact, I had already checked with the first two tips, but then I was expecting to see it (usb mic) as a choice in the recording option of Audacty (which did not appear, that is why I did not try further in Audacity). Anyway, now the things will get much easier. Thanks again.
Sanjay

Oh Good good... So you have sorted with the USB microphone, right? Could u pls tell us what make it is and how much u got it for and rest of the details??? smile.gif Eager to know... rolleyes.gif


OMkar Bhau,
My old one was a combo (headphone+mic) costing 5 Euro. This one picked up lot of noise from everywhere and even from the earrphones as well as all the internal noise of PC. But is worked as singing was never on the table.
The new one is a "Logitech" (USB Desktop Microphone, Model number: A-0186A), costing less than 30 Euro. Connect to the USB port and it starts working (as simple as that). The recording quality is excellent, does not pick up any internal PC noise. So very simple, recording and reproducing in clear good quality voice/sound. You can "try before buy" in the PC shop (if possible for you) as it is so simple like any other PC microhones.
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QUOTE(sanjkash @ Oct 31 2007, 02:09 PM) *
Lets listen to Idol sis, may be she is way advanced than anyone of us. So Idol we are all eagerly waiting for your song(s).
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Oh My God........u guys truely over estimated my talent of singing...........i really dun think i am in position to be called singer yet...........caoz it's only 5 months that i am learning singing............i compeleted Shudh and Komal courses........and now working on Raag Yaman...........i am not doin excellent already caoz i have problem with high pitch "GA"..................so dun think i am better than any of u guys here............i am a new student of music................and Sanjkash bro, if u haven't heard me singing............download my song through this link so that u have an idea that i am not that good as i am described here: http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?show...17654&st=60


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QUOTE(IDOL @ Oct 31 2007, 10:01 PM) *

QUOTE(sanjkash @ Oct 31 2007, 02:09 PM) *
Lets listen to Idol sis, may be she is way advanced than anyone of us. So Idol we are all eagerly waiting for your song(s).
Sanjay




Oh My God........u guys truely over estimated my talent of singing...........i really dun think i am in position to be called singer yet...........caoz it's only 5 months that i am learning singing............i compeleted Shudh and Komal courses........and now working on Raag Yaman...........i am not doin excellent already caoz i have problem with high pitch "GA"..................so dun think i am better than any of u guys here............i am a new student of music................and Sanjkash bro, if u haven't heard me singing............download my song through this link so that u have an idea that i am not that good as i am described here: http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?show...17654&st=60


Idol sis,
Who says you are not good (just downloaded and heard your song). I must say you have a very good sounding voice. You also sang it very very nicely. I predict, you get to new hights as you practice further and upload more of your songs in HM (Hamari Mehfil). This is your platform to practice in front of remote audience. As I said you are much advanced as I even do not know what shudh and komal etc etc mean.
In fact, in the song your voice is clear, but the volume is low. A tip on volume:-once you record your song (I assume in Audacity), then select/highlight the portion you want to increase the voluce of (in this case the whole song) and choose "Effects", "Amplify" (side the knob to the right to increase the amplification), "OK" then go back to listen to the song. If the volume is now OK then you can save the file.
A tip on scratchi vice: eat and drink whatever your mind, body, tongue and stomach tell you to. I prefer very spicy (but definately without cold drinks).
So when is your next song? Waiting for raag Yaman (is it going to be a known filmy song?)....
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QUOTE(Anwar_Fan @ Oct 31 2007, 10:06 PM) *

Finally from my side,

Aap Ke Pehlu Me Akar Rodhiye





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Anwar Fan bhai,
Kyaa gazab ka gaana sunaya aapne. Kafi mushkil gana aapne Bahot khoob gaya hai mere dost. Aapka SIR zukana bahot hi achchaa laga. Tells you a lot about a person.
Most of the modulations you got very good and correct, still I felt the "GHUM" needs to be perfected (which is extremely difficult but highly effective in the original song). But, may be you wanted to present it this way. If that is the case then you have sung this song wonderfully.
Last comment: Keep up with practice to bring even more life to high pitch notes.
Take care bro,
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QUOTE(sanjkash @ Oct 31 2007, 03:47 PM) *
QUOTE(IDOL @ Oct 31 2007, 10:01 PM) *

QUOTE(sanjkash @ Oct 31 2007, 02:09 PM) *
Lets listen to Idol sis, may be she is way advanced than anyone of us. So Idol we are all eagerly waiting for your song(s).
Sanjay




Oh My God........u guys truely over estimated my talent of singing...........i really dun think i am in position to be called singer yet...........caoz it's only 5 months that i am learning singing............i compeleted Shudh and Komal courses........and now working on Raag Yaman...........i am not doin excellent already caoz i have problem with high pitch "GA"..................so dun think i am better than any of u guys here............i am a new student of music................and Sanjkash bro, if u haven't heard me singing............download my song through this link so that u have an idea that i am not that good as i am described here: http://www.hamaraforums.com/index.php?show...17654&st=60


Idol sis,
Who says you are not good (just downloaded and heard your song). I must say you have a very good sounding voice. You also sang it very very nicely. I predict, you get to new hights as you practice further and upload more of your songs in HM (Hamari Mehfil). This is your platform to practice in front of remote audience. As I said you are much advanced as I even do not know what shudh and komal etc etc mean.
In fact, in the song your voice is clear, but the volume is low. A tip on volume:-once you record your song (I assume in Audacity), then select/highlight the portion you want to increase the voluce of (in this case the whole song) and choose "Effects", "Amplify" (side the knob to the right to increase the amplification), "OK" then go back to listen to the song. If the volume is now OK then you can save the file.
A tip on scratchi vice: eat and drink whatever your mind, body, tongue and stomach tell you to. I prefer very spicy (but definately without cold drinks).
So when is your next song? Waiting for raag Yaman (is it going to be a known filmy song?)....
Sanjay




awwwww, thank u bro.............you guys are really encouragin...........it's so nice to have good friends who always push you forward.........thank you for kind comments............and sure next time i will try to fix this volume problems...............it's not gonna be a filmy song this time sad.gif .........it's gonna be kinda folklore( i exactly dun know what type of song it is since we, my ustad and i call it bandesh) based on raag yaman.....soon i will record and upload it here!....thank u for kinds words, once again love.gif


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QUOTE(Anwar_Fan @ Oct 31 2007, 03:06 PM) *
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awesome............. clap1.gif ..............u sound like a singer whom i can't recall his name........but u sang very nice!


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QUOTE(Anwar_Fan @ Oct 31 2007, 05:06 PM) *

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Nice voice, I must say smile1.gif
There was a singer on HF! -- Rafi something (he sings on paltalk too) -- he sounds a bit like him smile1.gif
Nice singing!

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I will be performin live for the first time in my life in a party this weekend afraid.gif there will be more than 100 people afraid.gif .......i am asked to take 20 minute to sing both Hindi and Farsi songs with key board guy afraid.gif ..........i have the idea of karaoke, but no idea of live music afraid.gif ........tried to refuse, but friends ask me then why on earth i am goin for professional music, and this is chance to start appearin......sad1.gif..............i think i am not ready now sad1.gif.........any tip to handle the anxiety? afraid.gif


You dont need to worry! -- You have a very sweet voice!
Record the show n share it with us! glare.gif
Will you?!
What songs have u picked? -- Who is the guy playing keyboard?
Audience is desi? -- Hmm! whatelse closedeyes.gif -- Answer these n then i will give u my tips lol!

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I will be performin live for the first time in my life in a party this weekend afraid.gif there will be more than 100 people afraid.gif .......i am asked to take 20 minute to sing both Hindi and Farsi songs with key board guy afraid.gif ..........i have the idea of karaoke, but no idea of live music afraid.gif ........tried to refuse, but friends ask me then why on earth i am goin for professional music, and this is chance to start appearin...... sad1.gif ..............i think i am not ready now sad1.gif .........any tip to handle the anxiety? afraid.gif


You dont need to worry! -- You have a very sweet voice!
Record the show n share it with us! glare.gif
Will you?!
What songs have u picked? -- Who is the guy playing keyboard?
Audience is desi? -- Hmm! whatelse closedeyes.gif -- Answer these n then i will give u my tips lol!




Nay.........i am/was so behind in Psych readin that i did not select my songs yet...............and it's gonna be on 11, till then gotta catch up with readin and research projects.........and i dun know the guy on key board..........he's our own people--Afghan, but haven't met him yet..........audience= Afghans (15-40 years olds).......but i am scared anyways afraid.gif


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Scared of what? ninja.gif
You sing really good -- I am sure u will do a real good job!
Record it for us man! -- How come u arent doing any Khobi shows?

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QUOTE(ZaiRa @ Oct 31 2007, 09:39 PM) *
Scared of what? ninja.gif
You sing really good -- I am sure u will do a real good job!
Record it for us man! -- How come u arent doing any Khobi shows?




LOL.....we have a saying in farsi, " i told the story of Laila and Majnoon till end. At the end, he asks was Laila male or female?" laugh.gif .................girl,i already told u that i am behind in my readings? ab yeh khobi show kaha se hoga sad1.gif ...........but i do play some songs while reading, so if u wanna tune in somtimes smile1.gif


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LOL
LOL @ proverb!
How many years till u finish ur graduation?!

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