Nostalgia......yesteryear Actresses |
Nostalgia......yesteryear Actresses |
maheshks |
May 19 2007, 03:36 PM
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Donot try to protect him. Seen Ganga Jumna? In real life, Nasir Khan was "Ganga". You know that dont you? Usse pata chal gaya na ke Dilip ko tang kar rahe ho woh qabar apni se nikal aaya ga. Jaante nahin ho tum ke Nasir Khan kis mahlook ka naam hai aur meri baat maano na hi jaano toh accha. YM...Janaab Nasir Saab is from the same city where I live..I know him better than you. He is one of those members whose posts I often read. In age he is very senior to me and much experienced as well. I feel very awkward when I find that in some posts he flows with his emotions and goes erratic which I do not want because I never expect seasoned people to go irrational and susceptible to attack. I want them to be perfectionists... that is why I egg them on....off and on..off and on.... When you find peace within yourself, you become the kind of person who can live at peace with others
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Reeth |
May 20 2007, 12:15 AM
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NALINI JAYWANT- Born 1926
Blessed with an extraordinarily serene face as innocent as a cherub's Nalini Jaywant was a huge star in the fifties... Dilip Kumar considers her the greatest actress he ever worked with,citing her instinct for grasping the essence of a scene a second to none.Filmfare in their poll in the 1950s declared her one of the most beautiful woman in the movies....yet when one talks of the legendery actresses of the Indian screen, Nalini Jaywant's name hardly ever crops up, something that is grossly unfair to this extremely good looking and multi faceted actress.... Nalini Jaywant was born in Bombay in 1926,The cousin of Famous actress Shobana Samarth.....Her first prominent movie was mehboobs Bahen(1941), she starred in a handful of film hardly making an impact till she was noticed in Anokha Pyaar(1948), then came more successful movies like Samadhi Sangram, Naujawan, Jadoo, Raahi ,Shikast....and she had become a top star... Nalini remained an important leading lady through to the mid fifties and acted opposite all the leading actors of her time barring Raj Kapoor....Her movies were huge commercial sucesses... Nalini left her mark with films like Samadhi and Sangram both with Ashok Kumar with whom she was romantically involved,and went on to act in several films with him...Kafila(1952),Naubahar1952) Saloni(1952),Sheroo and Mr.X (1957)... She worked with directors like K.Abbas(Rahi), and Ramesh Saigal in Shikast,which is arguably her career's best performance opposite Dilip Kumar.... Some of her memorable films Radhika Bahen Anokha pyar Samadhi Sangram Jaadu Naujawan Rahi Shikast Kavi Nastik Munimji Railway platform Awaz Durgesh Nandini Hum sab chor hai Kaala paani Zindgi aur hum Bombay Race course Toofan mein pyar kahan Her last Sucessful film was perhaps Raj Khosla's Kaala pAni(1958), she gave one of the best performance of her career as the nautch girl Kishori....playing a shaded character she stole a march over the Heroine Madhubala and went on to win the Filmfare award for Best Supporting Actress for the film.She is absolutely unforgettable in the film be it in the come-hither mujhra Nazar Laage raaja or a she looks tearfully at Hero Dev Anand from across the room in that all time great composition by SD Burman Hum Bekhudi mein.... Thereafter none of her films were really noteworthy with her last film being Bombay Race course in 1965, after which she went into retirement.She made a comeback of sorts in Amitabh bachan's Nastik where she played a blind woman.... Since then she has been living a reclusive life keeping all to herself... The greatest discovery of my generation is that human beings can alter their lives by altering their attitudes of mind -William James |
nasir |
May 20 2007, 01:20 AM
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#228
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Dedicated Member Group: Members Posts: 3170 Joined: 22-April 06 From: Mumbai, India. Member No.: 5763 |
Donot try to protect him. Seen Ganga Jumna? In real life, Nasir Khan was "Ganga". You know that dont you? Usse pata chal gaya na ke Dilip ko tang kar rahe ho woh qabar apni se nikal aaya ga. Jaante nahin ho tum ke Nasir Khan kis mahlook ka naam hai aur meri baat maano na hi jaano toh accha. YM...Janaab Nasir Saab is from the same city where I live..I know him better than you. He is one of those members whose posts I often read. In age he is very senior to me and much experienced as well. I feel very awkward when I find that in some posts he flows with his emotions and goes erratic which I do not want because I never expect seasoned people to go irrational and susceptible to attack. I want them to be perfectionists... that is why I egg them on....off and on..off and on.... Maheshji, I think unwittingly I’ve been made a center of a controversy when none was intended. I take it as a compliment that you often read my post. Believe me, this again is not my intention. I just believe that the show must go on, the game should be made interesting whether for entertainment or information or even misinformation. I say “misinformation” because I do know that sometimes we genuinely make mistakes, come up with some wrong statement of facts unintentionally. Fortunately HF is endowed by very capable members and stalwarts such as yourself who, when time permits, take the pain to steer the ship on the right course. I thank you for that. Having said that, I believe that not everyone can just do away with “Emotions.” I’m emotional. I do things with my heart rather than head. I cannot dissect myself in a clinical environment and try to be a “perfectionist.” You said you find me being “erratic” in some post. I wonder where though I have some faint inklings. Emotions are my forte and I cannot be a cold, calculating perfectionist. Aren't we all different? Some flowers bloom early and wither away early too. Some bloom late and bloom for a long time. So the age factor has nothing to do with me since I am a late bloomer. I am what is termed as 30 plus (call this as being erractic, laugh if you must!) I prefer younger people for friends of 25 to 35. I am a believer in spontaneity. Therefore, I try to avoid older people, with respects, who think they know it all. Life is a continuous learning process irrespective of whatever age one might be. When we are all in a single classroom where does the question of age comes in? If being "emotional" is against the HF discipline, please let me know. NASIR. NASIR
Teri Khushi me.n Khush Tera banda khidmatgaar hai, Banda hoo.n mai.n Tera Tuu mera Parwardigaar hai. |
Reeth |
May 28 2007, 10:36 PM
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#229
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Dedicated Member Group: Members Posts: 2154 Joined: 22-May 06 Member No.: 6151 |
Donot try to protect him. Seen Ganga Jumna? In real life, Nasir Khan was "Ganga". You know that dont you? Usse pata chal gaya na ke Dilip ko tang kar rahe ho woh qabar apni se nikal aaya ga. Jaante nahin ho tum ke Nasir Khan kis mahlook ka naam hai aur meri baat maano na hi jaano toh accha. YM...Janaab Nasir Saab is from the same city where I live..I know him better than you. He is one of those members whose posts I often read. In age he is very senior to me and much experienced as well. I feel very awkward when I find that in some posts he flows with his emotions and goes erratic which I do not want because I never expect seasoned people to go irrational and susceptible to attack. I want them to be perfectionists... that is why I egg them on....off and on..off and on.... Maheshji, I think unwittingly I’ve been made a center of a controversy when none was intended. I take it as a compliment that you often read my post. Believe me, this again is not my intention. I just believe that the show must go on, the game should be made interesting whether for entertainment or information or even misinformation. I say “misinformation” because I do know that sometimes we genuinely make mistakes, come up with some wrong statement of facts unintentionally. Fortunately HF is endowed by very capable members and stalwarts such as yourself who, when time permits, take the pain to steer the ship on the right course. I thank you for that. Having said that, I believe that not everyone can just do away with “Emotions.” I’m emotional. I do things with my heart rather than head. I cannot dissect myself in a clinical environment and try to be a “perfectionist.” You said you find me being “erratic” in some post. I wonder where though I have some faint inklings. Emotions are my forte and I cannot be a cold, calculating perfectionist. Aren't we all different? Some flowers bloom early and wither away early too. Some bloom late and bloom for a long time. So the age factor has nothing to do with me since I am a late bloomer. I am what is termed as 30 plus (call this as being erractic, laugh if you must!) I prefer younger people for friends of 25 to 35. I am a believer in spontaneity. Therefore, I try to avoid older people, with respects, who think they know it all. Life is a continuous learning process irrespective of whatever age one might be. When we are all in a single classroom where does the question of age comes in? If being "emotional" is against the HF discipline, please let me know. NASIR. I totally agree wit that Nasir......... The greatest discovery of my generation is that human beings can alter their lives by altering their attitudes of mind -William James |
HumTum |
May 28 2007, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE If being "emotional" is against the HF discipline, please let me know. If you are passionate about something, why should you not be emotional? Nasirbhai, carry on. Like you say age is never a barrier for the learning process. Kudos! Keep it up. |
jassi |
May 29 2007, 04:43 PM
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now this lady,nalini jaywant,i hardly watch 2-3 of her films kala pani n nastik,i was not impressed with her acting at all
in kala pani,she was having good role,but madhubala was grt,specially in second half,coz in first half she was not having much to do.. nalini was against shobhana's decision of joining films,but the she end up becoming an actress too |
Reeth |
May 30 2007, 04:12 PM
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now this lady,nalini jaywant,i hardly watch 2-3 of her films kala pani n nastik,i was not impressed with her acting at all in kala pani,she was having good role,but madhubala was grt,specially in second half,coz in first half she was not having much to do.. nalini was against shobhana's decision of joining films,but the she end up becoming an actress too In Kala Pani Nalini was good jassi, and i find Madhubala equally good acting wise besides looking breathtakingly beautiful as she always does in all her movies........ I like Nalini jayawants's Munimji,was a lighthearted fun film with great music..... The greatest discovery of my generation is that human beings can alter their lives by altering their attitudes of mind -William James |
maheshks |
May 30 2007, 07:24 PM
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#233
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Dedicated Member Group: Members Posts: 2700 Joined: 6-March 05 From: In front of my P.C. Member No.: 1790 |
Donot try to protect him. Seen Ganga Jumna? In real life, Nasir Khan was "Ganga". You know that dont you? Usse pata chal gaya na ke Dilip ko tang kar rahe ho woh qabar apni se nikal aaya ga. Jaante nahin ho tum ke Nasir Khan kis mahlook ka naam hai aur meri baat maano na hi jaano toh accha. YM...Janaab Nasir Saab is from the same city where I live..I know him better than you. He is one of those members whose posts I often read. In age he is very senior to me and much experienced as well. I feel very awkward when I find that in some posts he flows with his emotions and goes erratic which I do not want because I never expect seasoned people to go irrational and susceptible to attack. I want them to be perfectionists... that is why I egg them on....off and on..off and on.... Maheshji, I think unwittingly I’ve been made a center of a controversy when none was intended. I take it as a compliment that you often read my post. Believe me, this again is not my intention. I just believe that the show must go on, the game should be made interesting whether for entertainment or information or even misinformation. I say “misinformation” because I do know that sometimes we genuinely make mistakes, come up with some wrong statement of facts unintentionally. Fortunately HF is endowed by very capable members and stalwarts such as yourself who, when time permits, take the pain to steer the ship on the right course. I thank you for that. Having said that, I believe that not everyone can just do away with “Emotions.” I’m emotional. I do things with my heart rather than head. I cannot dissect myself in a clinical environment and try to be a “perfectionist.” You said you find me being “erratic” in some post. I wonder where though I have some faint inklings. Emotions are my forte and I cannot be a cold, calculating perfectionist. Aren't we all different? Some flowers bloom early and wither away early too. Some bloom late and bloom for a long time. So the age factor has nothing to do with me since I am a late bloomer. I am what is termed as 30 plus (call this as being erractic, laugh if you must!) I prefer younger people for friends of 25 to 35. I am a believer in spontaneity. Therefore, I try to avoid older people, with respects, who think they know it all. Life is a continuous learning process irrespective of whatever age one might be. When we are all in a single classroom where does the question of age comes in? If being "emotional" is against the HF discipline, please let me know. NASIR. Lesson No. 1 : To go astray because of emotions, more often then not, brings the downfall of a person howsoever great he may be. Lesson No. 2 : To commit frequent mistakes under emotions is a sign of poor personality. Lesson No.3 : In your life do not act or follow a comet.....which shines and shines brightly but within a short span of time....is relegated to the realm of obscurity. Rely and try to become like a Pole Star...which shows the right path year after year and never faulters or leaves its followers in the lurch. NB : No further discussions and let us follow the thread as per its topic. When you find peace within yourself, you become the kind of person who can live at peace with others
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Reeth |
May 30 2007, 07:33 PM
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#234
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MADHBALA - (February 14 1933 - February 23 1969)
The name itself invokes so much enigma, that its just overwhelming....Madhubala, the Venus of the East The most beautiful woman to adorn the Hindi film screen,Madhubala represents the era of Beauty Romance and Tragedy associated with Hindi films. her Beauty had child like quality.....Fragile yet Confident, her luminous eyes,Royal gait and that bewitching smile........Thirty eight years after her death Madhubala's inordinate allure continues to evoke legends and inspire superlatives....hers was no ordinary beauty.In all the brouhaha about Madhubala's porcelain exquisiteness often side stepped is the fact that she was a mature intutive actress...... Madhbala was born Mumtaz Begum Jehan Dehlavi in Delhi the 5th child of a poor conservative Pashtun Muslim family of 11 children.A muslim holy man is said to have predicted that the ypung Mumtaz would earn fame and fortune, but would lead an unhappy life and die at a young age.Her father, Ataullah khan was a coachman in Delhi migrated to Bombay searching for a better livelihood.The family struggled for over ayear and Mumtaz entered bollywod as a child artiste under the name Baby Mumtaz...Her first film was Basant(1942), Devika Rani was impressed by her and changed her name to Madhubala She was to appear in Jwar bhata with Dilip Kumar in 1944, although she was unable to do the role, it was her first meeting with Dilip Kumar... It was Kidar Sharma who gave her a break as heroine opposite Raj kapoor in Neelkamal in 1947.However it was with the Bombay tallkies suspense thriller Mahal(1949) that Madhubala became a star.... Over the next two years Madhubala blossomed into a captivating beauty,fans referred to her as the Venus of the ndian screen..........She had spate of films opposite the leading men of the day Ashok Kumar,Rehman,Dilip Kumar, Dev Anand.....but some of her films flopped including a major film like Amar with Dilip Kumar, but she silencenced her critics in 1958 when 4 of her films turned out to be superhits Phagun opposite Bharat bhushan, Howrah Bridge with Ashok Kumar, Kaala Paani with Dev Anand and Chalti ka naam Ghadi with Kishore kumar...... In 1951 while shooting for Tarana Madhubala got involved with the leading man Dilip Kumar. The Madhubala - Dilip Kumar affair lasted for 7 years between 1951-1958.During this time she had an intimate relationship with Dilip and it was widely believed that the stunning pair would eventually get married. However, It was ended by her father in a highly emotional and publicized court case( with regard to the B.R.Chopra film 'Naya Daur).They were forcibly seperated. Madhbala's Heart problem was discovered in 1950 when Heart surgery was not available.Her illness was kept a secret for many years....After her break up with Dilip Kumar she plunged into a loveless marriage with Kishore kumar on the rebound accepting his proposal on the sets of Chalti ka naam ghaadi,but his parents refused to attend the civil ceremony and never really accepted her ..... Some of her memorable films Mahal Dulari Badal Sangdil Tarana Armaan Nirala Ek saal Sharabi Amar Mr. and Mrs 55 Gateway of India Chalti ka naam ghadi Jwala passport Phagun Howrah Bridge Kals paani Barsaat ki Raat Jhumroo Mughal e azam Half Ticket Insaan jaag utha In 1960 , it was Mughal-e-Azam which marked one of her Greatest performances as the doomed courtesan Anarkali.The film showed off the finely modulated depth she could bring to her performance if given an opportunity.It is an Outstanding performance in an Outstanding Film. She did have some odd releases in the 1960's but she was mostly confined to bed because of her illness.She was taken to London for Treatment, but the doctors refused to operate on her as they thought she would die during the operation,she did survive for another year. In 1964 she tried to make a comeback opposite Raj kapoor in Chalack , but she collapsed on the first day of shooting and the film was shelved. Her illness finally claimed her life in 1969, and she was buried in Santa Cruz Burial Ground along with her Dairy. In this short life she made over 70 films and t this day remains one of the most enduring legends of the Indian cinema....Even today the very mention of the name Madhubala conjures up the image of those dancing eyes, that lopsided smile.....She is held in awe and remains an icon of beauty and glamour to scores of her fans......... Attached image(s) The greatest discovery of my generation is that human beings can alter their lives by altering their attitudes of mind -William James |
RafiKiAwaaz |
May 31 2007, 12:20 AM
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Thanks!!!! This was a another very touching piece on another unforgettable person in our lives. She was a precious jem as so many others!!!
RKA |
Reeth |
May 31 2007, 03:29 PM
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#236
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Thanks!!!! This was a another very touching piece on another unforgettable person in our lives. She was a precious jem as so many others!!! RKA Madhubala : Indian Cinema's Tragic Beauty Khalid Hasan The Movie industry in the subcontinent is over eighty years old.Were someone to set about finding who among the thousands of women who have passed across this shimmering dreamland was the most stunning, the most beautiful, there would be little difference of opinion about that woman being Mumtaz Begum, whom the world knew by her screen name Madhubala... She died young, nine days after her thirty-seventh birthday.The 2 most important men in her life only brought her immense pain, though they must have loved her in his own fashion. The First was her Father, the authoritarian, hard driving Ataullah khan who in his frenzied bid to control her life and career does not seem to have paid much attention to the Heart condition with which she was born and which killed her.She was the toast of India and Pakistan and wherever else movies made in India were seen, but she was like a prisoner in her own home. She was not allowed to meet people unless they were pre-cleared by her father, nor was she permitted to be a part of the industry to which her whole life was dedicated.It is hard to believe that this heartthroab of millions was a defenseless young woman tyrannised over by a harsh father. The other man in Madhbala's life who let her down was Dilip Kumar.They were in love and once it is said he asked her to drop everything and just come with him, but she wanted her father's permission which ofcourse was refused.Later, Dilip Kumar to his eternal shame, appeared as a witness against her in a bitter court battle,that broke her heart...While Dilip was testifying against her she is supposed to have turned to har lawyer R.D.Chadha and said 'I don't believe this is the man who was so in love with me and whom i loved more than anyone or anything else in the world'..... Madhubala made one last attempt to reach out to Dilip Kumar. She asked their mutual friend the movie journalist Bunny Reuben to go to Dilip and tell him,how despite the court case she still loved him....the moment Bunny mentioned why he was there, Dilip jumped at him angrily'What Rubbish? What love?' Feeling lost and rejected Madhubala once and only time defied her father and married Kishore Kumar. It was a disastrous marriage,it never worked.... Nature had given her unparalleld beauty, but it had also left a hole in her heart which in the 1960's was considered a condition that could not be repaired........ She lies in the Santa Cruz graveyard in Bombay, where among others lie Mohammad Rafi and even her father Ataullah Khan, who can no longer tyrannise her. She rests in peace at last, still mourned by many..... The greatest discovery of my generation is that human beings can alter their lives by altering their attitudes of mind -William James |
jassi |
May 31 2007, 04:40 PM
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#237
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what a grt lady she was..
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RafiKiAwaaz |
May 31 2007, 09:43 PM
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Famous graveyard, though the remains of our beloved Rafi Shab and Madhubala are just dust but what a place to be buried. Yes rest in peace all, thanks for the memories!!!
RKA |
jassi |
Jun 1 2007, 03:10 PM
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nalini with pran from chingari |
Reeth |
Jun 1 2007, 06:05 PM
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what a grt lady she was.. She was indeed nalini with pran from chingari Thanks jassi The greatest discovery of my generation is that human beings can alter their lives by altering their attitudes of mind -William James |
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