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post Apr 28 2007, 10:11 AM
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post Apr 28 2007, 10:28 AM
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Is it Begum Para??



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post Apr 28 2007, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(Ummer @ Apr 28 2007, 08:12 AM) *

QUOTE(maheshks @ Apr 27 2007, 09:01 AM) *

OK now recognise this lady biggrin.gif




Never seen her before... pretty eyes though wink2.gif Is that really a girl though?



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OK now recognise this lady biggrin.gif




Never seen her before... pretty eyes though wink2.gif Is that really a girl though?


i guess durga khote..


Maar khaa gaye bachoo. She was a famous heroine during late 30s and early 40s.
Was the heroine of a block buster released during early 40s. All of you have
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post Apr 28 2007, 10:29 PM
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It isn't 'Fearless' Nadia, is it? unsure.gif

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but why suraiya refused to work with dilip kumar..if it was becoz of dev anand..like nargis too walked out some of films starring dilip..its said bcoz of raj kapoor...


Maybe bcoz Dilip Kumar was known for his rude behavior? He said to Nadira that she was the most despicable creature he ever met on the sets of Aan. And he also made a similar comment about Lata's Urdu pronounciation as Lata was Marathi. ninja.gif Maybe he made a similar comment about Suraiya too... tongue1.gif
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It isn't 'Fearless' Nadia, is it? unsure.gif

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O ho! Noorie... How could it be Fearless Nadia? tongue1.gif Read Mahesh ji hints carefully... Either Leela Chitnis or Mumtaz Shanti ?
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Begum Para! wink2.gif
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can anyone tell something more about begum para

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but why suraiya refused to work with dilip kumar..if it was becoz of dev anand..like nargis too walked out some of films starring dilip..its said bcoz of raj kapoor...


Maybe bcoz Dilip Kumar was known for his rude behavior? He said to Nadira that she was the most despicable creature he ever met on the sets of Aan. And he also made a similar comment about Lata's Urdu pronounciation as Lata was Marathi. ninja.gif Maybe he made a similar comment about Suraiya too... tongue1.gif


"Rude" ? I wudn't agree Ummer.
I like his outspokenness. It's a pleasing quality according to me. rolleyes.gif
Evidently other women thought so too;.....................Madhubala, Saira Bano tongue1.gif

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SURAIYA (June 15, 1929 - January 31, 2004

Suriya was perhaps the last of the Great singing stars...Born in Lahore, she was an only child.She began her acting career by playing bit roles as a child artiste,between the years 1937-1941.Her major film was TajMahal in 1941.....She did playback as a 13 year old for actress Mehtaab in Sharda(1942)
She was launched as a singing star in Bombay talkies Hamaari Baat(1943).She initially started by playing powerful secondary roles in films like Phool, Anmol Ghadi and Dard,..Her singing career found a mentor in music maestro naushad...K.L.Saigal recommended her as heroine for Tadbir in 1945,she co starred with Saigal in Omar Khayyam and Parwana. In 1947 after the partition when Major actresses Noor jehan and Khurshid migrated to Pakistan, more opportunities appeared for Suraiya....



The Year 1948 - 1949 were the best for her career...She had three major hits Pyar ki Jeet, Badi bahen and Dillagi and she became the highest paid Female Star.At her peak Suriaya generated hysteria among the masses...Her songs were a craze....Her songs like Tere nainon ne chori kiya, Woh paas rahe ya door rahe...Bigdi bananewale, murliwale murli bajaa were hummed in every nook and corner of the country..



while shooting for the film Vidya Suraiya fell in love with Dev Anand and the two of them did six films together....Afsar,shayar,Do sitare,Jeet,Nili , none of them hits, suraiya had no regrets as their love flourished...But suraiya's grandmother opposed the relationship . Suraiya remained unmarried all her life...Their love story was the stuff legends are made of...




She made a hit pair with Talat mehmood in movies like Maalik and Waris.... In 1954 she gave her finest dramatic performance in Mirza Ghalib, in the role of a courtesan, the married Ghalib's lover.....her songs in this film are eternal classics...Yeh na thi hamare kismat, Dil e naadan tujhe hua kya hai..

Some of her memorable films
Anmolghadi pyar ki jeet
Waris
Afsar
Sanam
Malik
Mirza Ghalib
Deewana
Mashooqa
Vidya
Shama
Rustom Sohrab


Suraiya's films startrd flopping in the fifties.....followed some indifferent films, and finally in 1963 after acting in Rustom Soharb with Prithviraj Kapoor she bade farewell to the studios....
She retreated into a world surrounded by her close family..
She died in 2004 ,at the age of 75....


Suriya's Films and songs continue to thrive on speculations,lore and memories....


Suraiya was born in Gujranwala... not Lahore. I haven't seen Mirza Ghalib, but my favorite Suraiya's movie as an actress is Dastaan with Raj Kapoor. As a singer... I like most of her movies. biggrin.gif Badi Behan was also a nice watchable movie, but I didn't like Dillagi at all...

Anmol Ghadi was also a nice movie... I also find Suraiya more charming than Noor Jehan in this film + I liked Suraiya's songs better than Noor Jehan. Noor Jehan was pregnant at that time I think, and she looks plumpy and bubbly and her acting was completely wooden in the movie.

Noor Jehan best movies (as an actress) came after partition and she looks very pretty in Koel and Intezar.


I have referred to several sources and by all accounts she was born in lahore and later moved to Bombay....wikipedia is the only site on where her birth place is mentioned as Gujranwala, Punjab...


I dont think Suraiya started her career as early as 1937... her first film was as child artiste was Taj Mahal (1941). Incidentally,PrithivirajKapoor was the hero of her first and last film as heroine (Ishara - 1943 and Rustom Sohrab - 1963). She acted with three Kapoors (father + 2 sons) - Raj Kapoor in Dastaan, Shammi Kapoor in Shama Parwana and Prithviraj Kapoor as mentioned above. According to Devinder Bir Kaur "Thus, by the age of 12, she was doing the heroine’s role in Ishara. She was so skinny that they had to pad her all over! And, what was more, she was opposite the ‘grand old man of the Indian screen’, namely Prithviraj Kapoor, who was in his mid-40s. Like everyone in the unit, she too called him ‘Papaji’! Prithviraj admitted that it was difficult romancing with a girl he would call ‘daughter’ when the camera wasn’t whirring. "


Ummer I think Suraiya's first role in the movies was in "Station Master". It appears
that Mumtaj Mahal got released first. Refer to Naushad Saab's comments at her death
and of the late VijayBhatt of Prakash Pictures. They both said it was for the
movie "station master" that suraiya was introduced as singing child star.
The production of the movie started in 1940. You must have downloaded
the video clip of her first song that I uploaded in my thread.


Yeah Mahesh Bhai you are right... In any case, she didn't start her career in 1937


You seem very stubborn in your belief...so be it......tho' as per all the sources she did start her career in 1937 as a child artite...



I am not stubborn in my belief Reeth. There were other Suraiya's working in the film industry at that time too including Suraiya Chaudary and Suraiya Shamsi. It is very common to mix-up the films of the well known Stars with obscure film stars of the same name. It happened with the filmography of Noor Jehan too as there was another Noor Jehan working in the film industry in films like Laila and Sophia etc. Suraiya herself mentioned that she made her debut in 1941 and was discovered by Naushad.

Suraiya - by Sultan Arshad (Images Dawn, Pakistani Newspaper).

I had the privilege of meeting actress Suraiya and having lengthy conversations with her on several occasions during my tenure as chief representative of our national airline in Bombay, in the nineties. It was during those meetings that she narrated several interesting anecdotes concerning different phases of her career and the impact of some of the master composers on her style of singing. Such as how Anil'da (Biswas) taught her to breathe in while singing so that it was not caught by the microphone or how Khwaja Saheb (Khursheed Anwer) would lean over the harmonium, with his long hair covering half of his face, while singing a tune to her: Naushad Saheb put her to rigorous rehearsals even when she used to be dead tired after marathon shooting schedules: or how while recording her first song as a child she was made to stand on a wooden stool in order to reach the height of the microphone.


She often recalled fondly the days when as a child from her Marine Drive residence she would walk down to All India Radio (A.I.R.) studio to participate in the children's programme in which Raj Kapoor and Madan Mohan who later attained fame as an actor, a film maker and music director respectively, used to be her co-artists. The legendary Z.A.Bukhari was then the station director at the A.I.R. Bombay.


Suraiya entered the film industry as a child actress with Taj Mahal (1941), for which maestro S.D. Burman, who was till then known for his Bengali songs, rendered his first Hindi song Prem ki pyaari nishani under the musical baton of Madhulal Master. Suraiya's next assignment was for Tamanna (1942), for which she also rendered her first song (Jaago aayi usha), a duet with then budding singer Mannadey. It was tuned by Manna's uncle the well known singer, music director and actor K.C. Dey.


After few other rather insignificant singing and acting assignments (Ujala, Station Master) maestro Naushad selected her as the playback voice for leading lady Mehtab in Sharda (1942). The movie became a turning point in Suraiya's career as a singer, with two of her songs Panchhi ja, peechhe raha hai bachpan mera and Mere dil ko sajan samjhado becoming very popular. Incidentally, Mehtab was the only actress to whom Suraiya lent her voice in three movies (Sharda, Qanoon and Sanjog). It was quite an incidence per force, that many years later in a female duet situation in Shama (1961) besides singing for herself, she became the ghost voice for Nimmi as well when the other singer Suman Kalyanpur failed to dub her portion of the song. Also two of her songs (Hawa uda kar layi, O bewafa karke jafa - music: Dhani Ram) recorded for an incomplete movie of her's, were later included in another film Taqdeer (1958) and picturized on its leading lady Shyama.


Suraiya graduated to adult roles with Ishara (1943), playing second lead opposite small-timer Satish with Prithviraj Kapoor and Swarnlata playing the leading roles. In this movie she had only two songs to her credit, a solo (Panghat pe muraliya baaje) and a duet (Baaghon mein koyal boli) with Satish. In Station Master and Ishara her voice was used for the character she played. In Anmol Ghadi she was the third angle of the love triangle, the other two being Noor Jehan and Surendranath. She sang three songs in it.


There is no denying the fact that Naushad Ali, Husnlal - Bhagat Ram and Khursheed Anwer played significant roles in Suraiya's career but such stalwarts as Anil Biswas, S.D. Burman and Ghulam Mohammad also enhanced her popularity as a singer. Then there were other music directors she teamed up with just once or twice but rendered some extremely melodious though not so popular numbers.


In a career spanning 22 years, Suraiya sung in five or six films and acted in approximately 65 movies which do not include the incomplete ones like Jaanwar (with Dilip Kumar) and Paagal Khaana (with Bharat Bhushan).


From the late forties to the early fifties she remained the highest paid as well as the most worshipped star of the Indian cinema. Even now when she makes a rare appearance in a public function, bejewelled and bedecked, she is revered and admired more than most of the stars of today. The aura remains.
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but why suraiya refused to work with dilip kumar..if it was becoz of dev anand..like nargis too walked out some of films starring dilip..its said bcoz of raj kapoor...


Maybe bcoz Dilip Kumar was known for his rude behavior? He said to Nadira that she was the most despicable creature he ever met on the sets of Aan. And he also made a similar comment about Lata's Urdu pronounciation as Lata was Marathi. ninja.gif Maybe he made a similar comment about Suraiya too... tongue1.gif


"Rude" ? I wudn't agree Ummer.
I like his outspokenness. It's a pleasing quality according to me. rolleyes.gif
Evidently other women thought so too;.....................Madhubala, Saira Bano tongue1.gif

Noorie


Calling someone despicable is outspokenness? ninja.gif Nadira said she didn't know what despicable means and she checked the dictionary when she went home, as she thought Dilip Kumar was paying her a compliment. tongue1.gif About Lata he said that Marathi mouth smells like (I dont remember the exact comment though) when she was travelling with Anil Biswas. Lata didn't took that comment negatively though and worked very hard on her Urdu diction.
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It isn't 'Fearless' Nadia, is it? unsure.gif

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O ho! Noorie... How could it be Fearless Nadia? tongue1.gif Read Mahesh ji hints carefully... Either Leela Chitnis or Mumtaz Shanti ?


You are right Ummer, I think it cud be Leela Chitnis.
Please confirm Mahesh. smile.gif

Else my mind will start playing tricks on me and even imagine that it is Shobhna Samarth. tongue1.gif

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but why suraiya refused to work with dilip kumar..if it was becoz of dev anand..like nargis too walked out some of films starring dilip..its said bcoz of raj kapoor...


Maybe bcoz Dilip Kumar was known for his rude behavior? He said to Nadira that she was the most despicable creature he ever met on the sets of Aan. And he also made a similar comment about Lata's Urdu pronounciation as Lata was Marathi. ninja.gif Maybe he made a similar comment about Suraiya too... tongue1.gif


"Rude" ? I wudn't agree Ummer.
I like his outspokenness. It's a pleasing quality according to me. rolleyes.gif
Evidently other women thought so too;.....................Madhubala, Saira Bano tongue1.gif

Noorie


Calling someone despicable is outspokenness? ninja.gif Nadira said she didn't know what despicable means and she checked the dictionary when she went home, as she thought Dilip Kumar was paying her a compliment. tongue1.gif About Lata he said that Marathi mouth smells like (I dont remember the exact comment though) when she was travelling with Anil Biswas. Lata didn't took that comment negatively though and worked very hard on her Urdu diction.


A Maharashtrian, speaking Urdu 'zubaan', wud retain the flavor of "daal-bhaat"( dal and rice ) - read vegetarian. tongue1.gif

Lata ji proved him wrong, didn't she?

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