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SURAIYA (June 15, 1929 - January 31, 2004

Suriya was perhaps the last of the Great singing stars...Born in Lahore, she was an only child.She began her acting career by playing bit roles as a child artiste,between the years 1937-1941.Her major film was TajMahal in 1941.....She did playback as a 13 year old for actress Mehtaab in Sharda(1942)
She was launched as a singing star in Bombay talkies Hamaari Baat(1943).She initially started by playing powerful secondary roles in films like Phool, Anmol Ghadi and Dard,..Her singing career found a mentor in music maestro naushad...K.L.Saigal recommended her as heroine for Tadbir in 1945,she co starred with Saigal in Omar Khayyam and Parwana. In 1947 after the partition when Major actresses Noor jehan and Khurshid migrated to Pakistan, more opportunities appeared for Suraiya....



The Year 1948 - 1949 were the best for her career...She had three major hits Pyar ki Jeet, Badi bahen and Dillagi and she became the highest paid Female Star.At her peak Suriaya generated hysteria among the masses...Her songs were a craze....Her songs like Tere nainon ne chori kiya, Woh paas rahe ya door rahe...Bigdi bananewale, murliwale murli bajaa were hummed in every nook and corner of the country..



while shooting for the film Vidya Suraiya fell in love with Dev Anand and the two of them did six films together....Afsar,shayar,Do sitare,Jeet,Nili , none of them hits, suraiya had no regrets as their love flourished...But suraiya's grandmother opposed the relationship . Suraiya remained unmarried all her life...Their love story was the stuff legends are made of...




She made a hit pair with Talat mehmood in movies like Maalik and Waris.... In 1954 she gave her finest dramatic performance in Mirza Ghalib, in the role of a courtesan, the married Ghalib's lover.....her songs in this film are eternal classics...Yeh na thi hamare kismat, Dil e naadan tujhe hua kya hai..

Some of her memorable films
Anmolghadi pyar ki jeet
Waris
Afsar
Sanam
Malik
Mirza Ghalib
Deewana
Mashooqa
Vidya
Shama
Rustom Sohrab


Suraiya's films startrd flopping in the fifties.....followed some indifferent films, and finally in 1963 after acting in Rustom Soharb with Prithviraj Kapoor she bade farewell to the studios....
She retreated into a world surrounded by her close family..
She died in 2004 ,at the age of 75....


Suriya's Films and songs continue to thrive on speculations,lore and memories....


Suraiya was born in Gujranwala... not Lahore. I haven't seen Mirza Ghalib, but my favorite Suraiya's movie as an actress is Dastaan with Raj Kapoor. As a singer... I like most of her movies. biggrin.gif Badi Behan was also a nice watchable movie, but I didn't like Dillagi at all...

Anmol Ghadi was also a nice movie... I also find Suraiya more charming than Noor Jehan in this film + I liked Suraiya's songs better than Noor Jehan. Noor Jehan was pregnant at that time I think, and she looks plumpy and bubbly and her acting was completely wooden in the movie.

Noor Jehan best movies (as an actress) came after partition and she looks very pretty in Koel and Intezar.


I have referred to several sources and by all accounts she was born in lahore and later moved to Bombay....wikipedia is the only site on where her birth place is mentioned as Gujranwala, Punjab...


I dont think Suraiya started her career as early as 1937... her first film was as child artiste was Taj Mahal (1941). Incidentally,PrithivirajKapoor was the hero of her first and last film as heroine (Ishara - 1943 and Rustom Sohrab - 1963). She acted with three Kapoors (father + 2 sons) - Raj Kapoor in Dastaan, Shammi Kapoor in Shama Parwana and Prithviraj Kapoor as mentioned above. According to Devinder Bir Kaur "Thus, by the age of 12, she was doing the heroine’s role in Ishara. She was so skinny that they had to pad her all over! And, what was more, she was opposite the ‘grand old man of the Indian screen’, namely Prithviraj Kapoor, who was in his mid-40s. Like everyone in the unit, she too called him ‘Papaji’! Prithviraj admitted that it was difficult romancing with a girl he would call ‘daughter’ when the camera wasn’t whirring. "


Ummer I think Suraiya's first role in the movies was in "Station Master". It appears
that Mumtaj Mahal got released first. Refer to Naushad Saab's comments at her death
and of the late VijayBhatt of Prakash Pictures. They both said it was for the
movie "station master" that suraiya was introduced as singing child star.
The production of the movie started in 1940. You must have downloaded
the video clip of her first song that I uploaded in my thread.

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Suraiya was mainly 40s star,in 50s she was fading actress,i never got to watch any of her film

i guess she was something against dilip kumar,coz i read somewhere she refused to work with dilip kumar in some film called jaanwar by saying that main kisi jaanwar ke saath kaam nahi karungi(i m not goin to work with any jaanwar aka animal) and also refused devdas...
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i m more madhubala fan,and i felt without a reason beena was always compared with legendry beauty

1.Madhubala was said to be having affair with premnath,but later he married beena rai..(i guess after madhubala's break up with dilip,prem was new man in her life,but he went for bina rai..well i too wud not have like madhubala n premnath together.. but i do like premnath as an actor

2.Madhubala was all set to play anarkali when nargis walked out of mughle azam,but at the same time an another film was announced anarkali with bina rai..mughle azam took too much time to get complete..n anarkali come first and got success,but mughle azam which was declaired flop,became a big blockbuster

3.There were talks that both looks similer..there might be,but not for me,madhubala is lifetime beauty..

4.Most big thing which pinched me Filmfare Award,Madhubala was deserving this award,but it went to Beena Rai,she might be good in that film,but not at her best the way madhubala was..if u dont know abt ghoonghat,let me tell u ghar ghar ki kahani(1988)starring rishi,jayaprada,anita raj,govinda n farha was inspired from ghoonghat..but see tday we remember Madhubala n Mughle Azam,but nobody is knowing much abt Ghoonghat and Bina Rai

i give u 4 reasons why i dont like bina rai much


Jassi, has it ever occurred 2 you that you might be just a little prejudiced? tongue1.gif

Bina Rai is allright, but she shows a little too much teeth at times; rolleyes.gif the younger Madhuri Dixit also received a lot of flak for this in her time.

As 4 Ghunghat, I've seen the movie too. She plays the role of Pradeep Kr's wife while he is deeply in love with Asha Parekh. Very stale concept, and her's was no meaty role that she shud be expected 2 produce Meena ji style histrionics.

Have you seen her in Aurat? She stars opp her real life hubby Premnath.

I don't mind revealing here that to me he comfortably fits in the ugly as hell category. cool.gif

Reeth is quite familiar with the other famous names on that list. tongue1.gif

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may be u r right..i have not got to watch much of her work..and there is not enough information abt her availble on net too

Premnath was fine actor..may be not as leading but as character actor he was simply grt..in raj kapoor,raj kumar kohli,firoze khan n manoj kumar's films
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may be u r right..i have not got to watch much of her work..and there is not enough information abt her availble on net too

Premnath was fine actor..may be not as leading but as character actor he was simply grt..in raj kapoor,raj kumar kohli,firoze khan n manoj kumar's films


After Bina Roy's marriage with Prem Nath, they both decided that they will only work as pair and their films started to flop. After marriage she tried to make a come back, but that freshness was gone. It is said that Bina's urge to face the camera + fame was so strong that even in old age she was dreaming about it.

There was an article on the net long time ago that Bina Roy-PremNath granddaughter is making her debut in Bollywood, I dont know what happened to her.
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Suraiya was mainly 40s star,in 50s she was fading actress,i never got to watch any of her film

i guess she was something against dilip kumar,coz i read somewhere she refused to work with dilip kumar in some film called jaanwar by saying that main kisi jaanwar ke saath kaam nahi karungi(i m not goin to work with any jaanwar aka animal) and also refused devdas...


Except Mirza Ghalib, all of Suraiya's movies in the 50's flopped. Many reasons are cited for this... arrival of Lata as playback singer and end of singing star era, failed romance with Dev Anand, Suraiya gaining weight and making wrong decisions in the selections of films. "Nagin" which established Vyjantimala was offered first to Suraiya, but she declined...

Also her rivalry with Nargis was the most famous one... both couldn't tolerate each other. Lots and lots have been written about their rivalry, Suraiya and Nargis Moms were bitter arch rivals. Suraiya Mom's commented that Nargis looks like Papaya and Nargis Mom made similar remark about Suraiya. Suraiya mentioned that Nargis was very envious of her... in the 40s when Nargis was struggling actress and Suraiya was big star. Ofcourse it all changed after the arrival of Lata and the release of Andaz.

According to Raju Bharatan book on Lata, there were also rumours that Suraiya tried to destroy Lata's voice by offering her poisoned meetha paan. Suraiya ofcourse shrugged these rumors off, and Lata after the death of Suraiya paid rich tributes to her and said, some people tried to create bad blood between us, but thanks God me and Suraiya always remained in good terms. In Lata's Biography, Suraiya also paid rich tributes to Lata and how Suraiya was amazed at Lata's singing ability when they recorded their first duet together "O pardesi Musafir". Suraiya said "NOOR JEHAN WAS BORN GREAT, LATA ACHIEVED GREATNESS AND SINGING GREATNESS WAS THRUST UPON ME".

According to the book on Madhubala, in "Mahal" Suraiya was replaced by Madhubala and because of that Suraiya never forgave Madhubala. During the shooting of Singaar (their only film together), if Suraiya asked for one close up, Madhubala made sure that she got 3 close ups and all that stuff.. It was the producer/director of this film who ended up with getting headache in the end. biggrin.gif
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SURAIYA (June 15, 1929 - January 31, 2004

Suriya was perhaps the last of the Great singing stars...Born in Lahore, she was an only child.She began her acting career by playing bit roles as a child artiste,between the years 1937-1941.Her major film was TajMahal in 1941.....She did playback as a 13 year old for actress Mehtaab in Sharda(1942)
She was launched as a singing star in Bombay talkies Hamaari Baat(1943).She initially started by playing powerful secondary roles in films like Phool, Anmol Ghadi and Dard,..Her singing career found a mentor in music maestro naushad...K.L.Saigal recommended her as heroine for Tadbir in 1945,she co starred with Saigal in Omar Khayyam and Parwana. In 1947 after the partition when Major actresses Noor jehan and Khurshid migrated to Pakistan, more opportunities appeared for Suraiya....



The Year 1948 - 1949 were the best for her career...She had three major hits Pyar ki Jeet, Badi bahen and Dillagi and she became the highest paid Female Star.At her peak Suriaya generated hysteria among the masses...Her songs were a craze....Her songs like Tere nainon ne chori kiya, Woh paas rahe ya door rahe...Bigdi bananewale, murliwale murli bajaa were hummed in every nook and corner of the country..



while shooting for the film Vidya Suraiya fell in love with Dev Anand and the two of them did six films together....Afsar,shayar,Do sitare,Jeet,Nili , none of them hits, suraiya had no regrets as their love flourished...But suraiya's grandmother opposed the relationship . Suraiya remained unmarried all her life...Their love story was the stuff legends are made of...




She made a hit pair with Talat mehmood in movies like Maalik and Waris.... In 1954 she gave her finest dramatic performance in Mirza Ghalib, in the role of a courtesan, the married Ghalib's lover.....her songs in this film are eternal classics...Yeh na thi hamare kismat, Dil e naadan tujhe hua kya hai..

Some of her memorable films
Anmolghadi pyar ki jeet
Waris
Afsar
Sanam
Malik
Mirza Ghalib
Deewana
Mashooqa
Vidya
Shama
Rustom Sohrab


Suraiya's films startrd flopping in the fifties.....followed some indifferent films, and finally in 1963 after acting in Rustom Soharb with Prithviraj Kapoor she bade farewell to the studios....
She retreated into a world surrounded by her close family..
She died in 2004 ,at the age of 75....


Suriya's Films and songs continue to thrive on speculations,lore and memories....


Suraiya was born in Gujranwala... not Lahore. I haven't seen Mirza Ghalib, but my favorite Suraiya's movie as an actress is Dastaan with Raj Kapoor. As a singer... I like most of her movies. biggrin.gif Badi Behan was also a nice watchable movie, but I didn't like Dillagi at all...

Anmol Ghadi was also a nice movie... I also find Suraiya more charming than Noor Jehan in this film + I liked Suraiya's songs better than Noor Jehan. Noor Jehan was pregnant at that time I think, and she looks plumpy and bubbly and her acting was completely wooden in the movie.

Noor Jehan best movies (as an actress) came after partition and she looks very pretty in Koel and Intezar.


I have referred to several sources and by all accounts she was born in lahore and later moved to Bombay....wikipedia is the only site on where her birth place is mentioned as Gujranwala, Punjab...


I dont think Suraiya started her career as early as 1937... her first film was as child artiste was Taj Mahal (1941). Incidentally,PrithivirajKapoor was the hero of her first and last film as heroine (Ishara - 1943 and Rustom Sohrab - 1963). She acted with three Kapoors (father + 2 sons) - Raj Kapoor in Dastaan, Shammi Kapoor in Shama Parwana and Prithviraj Kapoor as mentioned above. According to Devinder Bir Kaur "Thus, by the age of 12, she was doing the heroine’s role in Ishara. She was so skinny that they had to pad her all over! And, what was more, she was opposite the ‘grand old man of the Indian screen’, namely Prithviraj Kapoor, who was in his mid-40s. Like everyone in the unit, she too called him ‘Papaji’! Prithviraj admitted that it was difficult romancing with a girl he would call ‘daughter’ when the camera wasn’t whirring. "


Ummer I think Suraiya's first role in the movies was in "Station Master". It appears
that Mumtaj Mahal got released first. Refer to Naushad Saab's comments at her death
and of the late VijayBhatt of Prakash Pictures. They both said it was for the
movie "station master" that suraiya was introduced as singing child star.
The production of the movie started in 1940. You must have downloaded
the video clip of her first song that I uploaded in my thread.


Yeah Mahesh Bhai you are right... In any case, she didn't start her career in 1937.
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thank you very much reeth for the article on meena kumari, mahajabeen bano was truly beautiful,
a sweet person and a fantastic actor. she lacks absolutely nothing. i recall many and so many things,
bits and bytes of her life my mom used to tell when i was a child/teenager.

her "Chandan ka Palna" is one of her movies that i cherish.

one fact, that i always felt sad is that she was a tragic queen in her real life.
please put more and more about her including pics.

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Thanks a lot Nature for all the lovely pics ...
I have seen quite a few of Meena kumari's films along wit my mom who is a great fan of hers...
i liked Kohinoor, Yahudi, Azad among the lighter ones and Pakeezah definitely one of her best movies, Sahib bibi aur ghulam , phool aur patthar, Aarti and few more.....The most depressing of the lot was 'Daera' directed by Kamal Amrohi.....but it had a classy song, a bhajan'devta tum ho mera sahara......great song sung by Mohammad rafi and mubarak begum.... rolleyes.gif



Just a passing info... Kamal Amrohi's niece (Kamal's brother's daughter) was librarian at our school in Kuwait. Her name was Hasnaini. Their family was settled in Karachi.
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QUOTE(jassi @ Apr 27 2007, 11:56 AM) *

i m more madhubala fan,and i felt without a reason beena was always compared with legendry beauty

1.Madhubala was said to be having affair with premnath,but later he married beena rai..(i guess after madhubala's break up with dilip,prem was new man in her life,but he went for bina rai..well i too wud not have like madhubala n premnath together.. but i do like premnath as an actor

2.Madhubala was all set to play anarkali when nargis walked out of mughle azam,but at the same time an another film was announced anarkali with bina rai..mughle azam took too much time to get complete..n anarkali come first and got success,but mughle azam which was declaired flop,became a big blockbuster

3.There were talks that both looks similer..there might be,but not for me,madhubala is lifetime beauty..

4.Most big thing which pinched me Filmfare Award,Madhubala was deserving this award,but it went to Beena Rai,she might be good in that film,but not at her best the way madhubala was..if u dont know abt ghoonghat,let me tell u ghar ghar ki kahani(1988)starring rishi,jayaprada,anita raj,govinda n farha was inspired from ghoonghat..but see tday we remember Madhubala n Mughle Azam,but nobody is knowing much abt Ghoonghat and Bina Rai

i give u 4 reasons why i dont like bina rai much


Jassi, has it ever occurred 2 you that you might be just a little prejudiced? tongue1.gif

Bina Rai is allright, but she shows a little too much teeth at times; rolleyes.gif the younger Madhuri Dixit also received a lot of flak for this in her time.

As 4 Ghunghat, I've seen the movie too. She plays the role of Pradeep Kr's wife while he is deeply in love with Asha Parekh. Very stale concept, and her's was no meaty role that she shud be expected 2 produce Meena ji style histrionics.

Have you seen her in Aurat? She stars opp her real life hubby Premnath.

I don't mind revealing here that to me he comfortably fits in the ugly as hell category. cool.gif

Reeth is quite familiar with the other famous names on that list. tongue1.gif Noorie

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SURAIYA (June 15, 1929 - January 31, 2004

Suriya was perhaps the last of the Great singing stars...Born in Lahore, she was an only child.She began her acting career by playing bit roles as a child artiste,between the years 1937-1941.Her major film was TajMahal in 1941.....She did playback as a 13 year old for actress Mehtaab in Sharda(1942)
She was launched as a singing star in Bombay talkies Hamaari Baat(1943).She initially started by playing powerful secondary roles in films like Phool, Anmol Ghadi and Dard,..Her singing career found a mentor in music maestro naushad...K.L.Saigal recommended her as heroine for Tadbir in 1945,she co starred with Saigal in Omar Khayyam and Parwana. In 1947 after the partition when Major actresses Noor jehan and Khurshid migrated to Pakistan, more opportunities appeared for Suraiya....



The Year 1948 - 1949 were the best for her career...She had three major hits Pyar ki Jeet, Badi bahen and Dillagi and she became the highest paid Female Star.At her peak Suriaya generated hysteria among the masses...Her songs were a craze....Her songs like Tere nainon ne chori kiya, Woh paas rahe ya door rahe...Bigdi bananewale, murliwale murli bajaa were hummed in every nook and corner of the country..



while shooting for the film Vidya Suraiya fell in love with Dev Anand and the two of them did six films together....Afsar,shayar,Do sitare,Jeet,Nili , none of them hits, suraiya had no regrets as their love flourished...But suraiya's grandmother opposed the relationship . Suraiya remained unmarried all her life...Their love story was the stuff legends are made of...




She made a hit pair with Talat mehmood in movies like Maalik and Waris.... In 1954 she gave her finest dramatic performance in Mirza Ghalib, in the role of a courtesan, the married Ghalib's lover.....her songs in this film are eternal classics...Yeh na thi hamare kismat, Dil e naadan tujhe hua kya hai..

Some of her memorable films
Anmolghadi pyar ki jeet
Waris
Afsar
Sanam
Malik
Mirza Ghalib
Deewana
Mashooqa
Vidya
Shama
Rustom Sohrab


Suraiya's films startrd flopping in the fifties.....followed some indifferent films, and finally in 1963 after acting in Rustom Soharb with Prithviraj Kapoor she bade farewell to the studios....
She retreated into a world surrounded by her close family..
She died in 2004 ,at the age of 75....


Suriya's Films and songs continue to thrive on speculations,lore and memories....


Suraiya was born in Gujranwala... not Lahore. I haven't seen Mirza Ghalib, but my favorite Suraiya's movie as an actress is Dastaan with Raj Kapoor. As a singer... I like most of her movies. biggrin.gif Badi Behan was also a nice watchable movie, but I didn't like Dillagi at all...

Anmol Ghadi was also a nice movie... I also find Suraiya more charming than Noor Jehan in this film + I liked Suraiya's songs better than Noor Jehan. Noor Jehan was pregnant at that time I think, and she looks plumpy and bubbly and her acting was completely wooden in the movie.

Noor Jehan best movies (as an actress) came after partition and she looks very pretty in Koel and Intezar.


I have referred to several sources and by all accounts she was born in lahore and later moved to Bombay....wikipedia is the only site on where her birth place is mentioned as Gujranwala, Punjab...


I dont think Suraiya started her career as early as 1937... her first film was as child artiste was Taj Mahal (1941). Incidentally,PrithivirajKapoor was the hero of her first and last film as heroine (Ishara - 1943 and Rustom Sohrab - 1963). She acted with three Kapoors (father + 2 sons) - Raj Kapoor in Dastaan, Shammi Kapoor in Shama Parwana and Prithviraj Kapoor as mentioned above. According to Devinder Bir Kaur "Thus, by the age of 12, she was doing the heroine’s role in Ishara. She was so skinny that they had to pad her all over! And, what was more, she was opposite the ‘grand old man of the Indian screen’, namely Prithviraj Kapoor, who was in his mid-40s. Like everyone in the unit, she too called him ‘Papaji’! Prithviraj admitted that it was difficult romancing with a girl he would call ‘daughter’ when the camera wasn’t whirring. "


Ummer I think Suraiya's first role in the movies was in "Station Master". It appears
that Mumtaj Mahal got released first. Refer to Naushad Saab's comments at her death
and of the late VijayBhatt of Prakash Pictures. They both said it was for the
movie "station master" that suraiya was introduced as singing child star.
The production of the movie started in 1940. You must have downloaded
the video clip of her first song that I uploaded in my thread.


Yeah Mahesh Bhai you are right... In any case, she didn't start her career in 1937


You seem very stubborn in your belief...so be it......tho' as per all the sources she did start her career in 1937 as a child artite...



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post Apr 28 2007, 10:04 AM
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QUOTE(Ummer @ Apr 28 2007, 08:12 AM) *

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OK now recognise this lady biggrin.gif

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Never seen her before... pretty eyes though wink2.gif Is that really a girl though?


i guess durga khote..

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post Apr 28 2007, 10:06 AM
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but why suraiya refused to work with dilip kumar..if it was becoz of dev anand..like nargis too walked out some of films starring dilip..its said bcoz of raj kapoor...
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bina rai's granddaughter made her debut in 2002 with her father's home production(prem kishan,i guess he did dulhan wohi jo piya mann bhaye)..yeh mohabbat hai..film was flopped...later she was seen in films like loc and garv...she is married now
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