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all were great...i like all nargis,madhubala,meena kumari,nutan,geeta bali,vyajaynthimala,waheeda rehmaan etc
i dont like beena rai(i guess she was even not deserving best actress award for ghoonghat,madhubala was 1000 times better than her in mughle azam)..supporting actresses like nadira and nimmi were also good
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You are right Reeth, Daera was a really depressing movie. But I don't mind watching it again and again just 4 Meena ji's sake.
To be married 2 an old man and then find urself hopelessly in love with someone else; if that isn't a tragedy, I don't know what is. sad.gif

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all were great...i like all nargis,madhubala,meena kumari,nutan,geeta bali,vyajaynthimala,waheeda rehmaan etc
i dont like beena rai (i guess she was even not deserving best actress award for ghoonghat,madhubala was 1000 times better than her in mughle azam)..supporting actresses like nadira and nimmi were also good


Any particular reason 4 this dislike that u might want 2 share with us? huh.gif

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QUOTE(jassi @ Apr 26 2007, 02:59 PM) *

all were great...i like all nargis,madhubala,meena kumari,nutan,geeta bali,vyajaynthimala,waheeda rehmaan etc
i dont like beena rai(i guess she was even not deserving best actress award for ghoonghat,madhubala was 1000 times better than her in mughle azam)..supporting actresses like nadira and nimmi were also good

Jassi, Bina rai is considered to be nearly as beautiful as Madhubala,talent???.....am not sure.. i have seen 3 of her movies Anarkali,Tajmahal and Vallah kya baat hai.....and believe me she is Gorgeous.. wub.gif biggrin.gif




QUOTE(noorie @ Apr 26 2007, 07:17 PM) *

You are right Reeth, Daera was a really depressing movie. But I don't mind watching it again and again just 4 Meena ji's sake.
To be married 2 an old man and then find urself hopelessly in love with someone else; if that isn't a tragedy, I don't know what is. sad.gif

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QUOTE(jassi @ Apr 26 2007, 02:59 PM) *

all were great...i like all nargis,madhubala,meena kumari,nutan,geeta bali,vyajaynthimala,waheeda rehmaan etc
i dont like beena rai(i guess she was even not deserving best actress award for ghoonghat,madhubala was 1000 times better than her in mughle azam)..supporting actresses like nadira and nimmi were also good

Jassi, Bina rai is considered to be nearly as beautiful as Madhubala,talent???.....am not sure.. i have seen 3 of her movies Anarkali,Tajmahal and Vallah kya baat hai.....and believe me she is Gorgeous.. wub.gif biggrin.gif




QUOTE(noorie @ Apr 26 2007, 07:17 PM) *

You are right Reeth, Daera was a really depressing movie. But I don't mind watching it again and again just 4 Meena ji's sake.
To be married 2 an old man and then find urself hopelessly in love with someone else; if that isn't a tragedy, I don't know what is. sad.gif

Noorie


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I agree with Jassi..... I find Bina Roy as an annoying actress along with her dumb facial expressions. Anarkali (1953) technically + acting wise was poor film in my opinion, it was only because of its songs i think that the films did great business. Both Bina Roy and Pradeep Kumar were annoying in this film. Bina Roy was neither a good actress nor a good dancer.
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SURAIYA (June 15, 1929 - January 31, 2004

Suriya was perhaps the last of the Great singing stars...Born in Lahore, she was an only child.She began her acting career by playing bit roles as a child artiste,between the years 1937-1941.Her major film was TajMahal in 1941.....She did playback as a 13 year old for actress Mehtaab in Sharda(1942)
She was launched as a singing star in Bombay talkies Hamaari Baat(1943).She initially started by playing powerful secondary roles in films like Phool, Anmol Ghadi and Dard,..Her singing career found a mentor in music maestro naushad...K.L.Saigal recommended her as heroine for Tadbir in 1945,she co starred with Saigal in Omar Khayyam and Parwana. In 1947 after the partition when Major actresses Noor jehan and Khurshid migrated to Pakistan, more opportunities appeared for Suraiya....



The Year 1948 - 1949 were the best for her career...She had three major hits Pyar ki Jeet, Badi bahen and Dillagi and she became the highest paid Female Star.At her peak Suriaya generated hysteria among the masses...Her songs were a craze....Her songs like Tere nainon ne chori kiya, Woh paas rahe ya door rahe...Bigdi bananewale, murliwale murli bajaa were hummed in every nook and corner of the country..



while shooting for the film Vidya Suraiya fell in love with Dev Anand and the two of them did six films together....Afsar,shayar,Do sitare,Jeet,Nili , none of them hits, suraiya had no regrets as their love flourished...But suraiya's grandmother opposed the relationship . Suraiya remained unmarried all her life...Their love story was the stuff legends are made of...




She made a hit pair with Talat mehmood in movies like Maalik and Waris.... In 1954 she gave her finest dramatic performance in Mirza Ghalib, in the role of a courtesan, the married Ghalib's lover.....her songs in this film are eternal classics...Yeh na thi hamare kismat, Dil e naadan tujhe hua kya hai..

Some of her memorable films
Anmolghadi pyar ki jeet
Waris
Afsar
Sanam
Malik
Mirza Ghalib
Deewana
Mashooqa
Vidya
Shama
Rustom Sohrab


Suraiya's films startrd flopping in the fifties.....followed some indifferent films, and finally in 1963 after acting in Rustom Soharb with Prithviraj Kapoor she bade farewell to the studios....
She retreated into a world surrounded by her close family..
She died in 2004 ,at the age of 75....


Suriya's Films and songs continue to thrive on speculations,lore and memories....


Suraiya was born in Gujranwala... not Lahore. I haven't seen Mirza Ghalib, but my favorite Suraiya's movie as an actress is Dastaan with Raj Kapoor. As a singer... I like most of her movies. biggrin.gif Badi Behan was also a nice watchable movie, but I didn't like Dillagi at all...

Anmol Ghadi was also a nice movie... I also find Suraiya more charming than Noor Jehan in this film + I liked Suraiya's songs better than Noor Jehan. Noor Jehan was pregnant at that time I think, and she looks plumpy and bubbly and her acting was completely wooden in the movie.

Noor Jehan best movies (as an actress) came after partition and she looks very pretty in Koel and Intezar.


I have referred to several sources and by all accounts she was born in lahore and later moved to Bombay....wikipedia is the only site on where her birth place is mentioned as Gujranwala, Punjab...


I dont think Suraiya started her career as early as 1937... her first film was as child artiste was Taj Mahal (1941). Incidentally,PrithivirajKapoor was the hero of her first and last film as heroine (Ishara - 1943 and Rustom Sohrab - 1963). She acted with three Kapoors (father + 2 sons) - Raj Kapoor in Dastaan, Shammi Kapoor in Shama Parwana and Prithviraj Kapoor as mentioned above. According to Devinder Bir Kaur "Thus, by the age of 12, she was doing the heroine’s role in Ishara. She was so skinny that they had to pad her all over! And, what was more, she was opposite the ‘grand old man of the Indian screen’, namely Prithviraj Kapoor, who was in his mid-40s. Like everyone in the unit, she too called him ‘Papaji’! Prithviraj admitted that it was difficult romancing with a girl he would call ‘daughter’ when the camera wasn’t whirring. "
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QUOTE(nasir @ Apr 5 2007, 09:45 PM) *

Thanks so much REETH for those picture as well as information.
By the way, speaking of yesteryear actress, do you have anything on REHANA? I haven't seen her name being mentioned as yet since the time I joined HF a year ago.


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Nasir this is what i found on the net about Rehana........

REHANA





She appeared on the silver screen sometime in the late 30's acting in minor roles but soon took the cine world by storm....Made her major debut as a leading lady in "Hum Ek Hain" with Dev Anand...which was incidentally his first film too ...
With the exception of Dilip Kumar Rehana acted with all top heroes of her era...
Dilruba with dev Ananad
Sargam
and
sunehre Din with Raj kapoor
Cham chama cham with Kishore kumar
Sagai with Premnath
Actress with prem Adeeb
Adaa with Shekar

Some of the best Lata Mangeshkar songs were picturised on her...
Koi kisika deewana na baney.....Sargam
Zamaney ka dastoor hai yeh.....Laajawab
Tum kya jaano tumhari yaad mein.....Shin shinaki babla boo
Preetam mere duniya mein....Adaa
Mohobat mein aise .....Sagaai

Her memrable movies were...
Shehnai
Saajan
Sunehra Din
Sargam
Sagaai
Adaa
Dilruba
Shin shinaki babla boo....

After completing her last films in 1956," Delhi Darbaar "and "Qeemat ", she migrated to Pakistan....
She acted in a few films in Pakistan, but failed to impress......later married a film poducer...
She is widowed and leading a life of seclusion in pakistan now...



Seems even the songs you mentioned above are all mellifluous. Not to speak of those well-known movies.
Of course I don't remember seeing those movies except SHIN SHINAKI BUBALA BOO as a very small kid at the Imperial Theatre or perhaps the Swatik. But don't remember a thing from it. The title song of this movie I do remember the line. I wonder whether this was a mythical movie and whether the swashbuckling RANJAN was her hero.

I specially asked for REHANA's info since my dad had informed me that he had purchased the house of Rehana before her migration to Pakistan.

NASIR.


According to Encyclopedia of Indian Cinema, Shin Shinaki Boobla Boo was orientalist fantasy. This film was the unlikely first victim of the censor board, an action enabled by the Indian Cinematograph Act passed that year. Given a Universal certificate by the censors, the Ministry of Information and Broadcasting banned the film because it `throws the glamour of romance and heroism over criminal characters, treats sacred subjects irreverently and is, in consequence, opposed to the interests of public decency and morality'. The ban was later revoked but ruined the film's commercial chances.


Rehana was a popular actress of those times, she was very good dancer too... but her acting was considered vulgar according to the standards of those days. Her bathtub scene in Dilruba + anyone who has seen Sunehre Din... Nigar Sultana and Rehana were too close in that film... looks like as if the film was portraying lesbianism to some extent. Lyricist P.L. Santoshi, was desperately, but unsuccessfully, in love with Rehana. It is said that he spent the entire night outside her closed door and the next morning gave vent to his feelings through the lyrics of "Tum kya jaano, tumhari yaad mein hum kitna royen". biggrin.gif

Btw Reeth, the picture + article on Rehana was from my website.
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i m more madhubala fan,and i felt without a reason beena was always compared with legendry beauty

1.Madhubala was said to be having affair with premnath,but later he married beena rai..(i guess after madhubala's break up with dilip,prem was new man in her life,but he went for bina rai..well i too wud not have like madhubala n premnath together..but i do like premnath as an actor

2.Madhubala was all set to play anarkali when nargis walked out of mughle azam,but at the same time an another film was announced anarkali with bina rai..mughle azam took too much time to get complete..n anarkali come first and got success,but mughle azam which was declaired flop,became a big blockbuster

3.There were talks that both looks similer..there might be,but not for me,madhubala is lifetime beauty..

4.Most big thing which pinched me Filmfare Award,Madhubala was deserving this award,but it went to Beena Rai,she might be good in that film,but not at her best the way madhubala was..if u dont know abt ghoonghat,let me tell u ghar ghar ki kahani(1988)starring rishi,jayaprada,anita raj,govinda n farha was inspired from ghoonghat..but see tday we remember Madhubala n Mughle Azam,but nobody is knowing much abt Ghoonghat and Bina Rai

i give u 4 reasons why i dont like bina rai much
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SURAIYA (June 15, 1929 - January 31, 2004

Suriya was perhaps the last of the Great singing stars...Born in Lahore, she was an only child.She began her acting career by playing bit roles as a child artiste,between the years 1937-1941.Her major film was TajMahal in 1941.....She did playback as a 13 year old for actress Mehtaab in Sharda(1942)
She was launched as a singing star in Bombay talkies Hamaari Baat(1943).She initially started by playing powerful secondary roles in films like Phool, Anmol Ghadi and Dard,..Her singing career found a mentor in music maestro naushad...K.L.Saigal recommended her as heroine for Tadbir in 1945,she co starred with Saigal in Omar Khayyam and Parwana. In 1947 after the partition when Major actresses Noor jehan and Khurshid migrated to Pakistan, more opportunities appeared for Suraiya....



The Year 1948 - 1949 were the best for her career...She had three major hits Pyar ki Jeet, Badi bahen and Dillagi and she became the highest paid Female Star.At her peak Suriaya generated hysteria among the masses...Her songs were a craze....Her songs like Tere nainon ne chori kiya, Woh paas rahe ya door rahe...Bigdi bananewale, murliwale murli bajaa were hummed in every nook and corner of the country..



while shooting for the film Vidya Suraiya fell in love with Dev Anand and the two of them did six films together....Afsar,shayar,Do sitare,Jeet,Nili , none of them hits, suraiya had no regrets as their love flourished...But suraiya's grandmother opposed the relationship . Suraiya remained unmarried all her life...Their love story was the stuff legends are made of...




She made a hit pair with Talat mehmood in movies like Maalik and Waris.... In 1954 she gave her finest dramatic performance in Mirza Ghalib, in the role of a courtesan, the married Ghalib's lover.....her songs in this film are eternal classics...Yeh na thi hamare kismat, Dil e naadan tujhe hua kya hai..

Some of her memorable films
Anmolghadi pyar ki jeet
Waris
Afsar
Sanam
Malik
Mirza Ghalib
Deewana
Mashooqa
Vidya
Shama
Rustom Sohrab


Suraiya's films startrd flopping in the fifties.....followed some indifferent films, and finally in 1963 after acting in Rustom Soharb with Prithviraj Kapoor she bade farewell to the studios....
She retreated into a world surrounded by her close family..
She died in 2004 ,at the age of 75....


Suriya's Films and songs continue to thrive on speculations,lore and memories....


Suraiya was born in Gujranwala... not Lahore. I haven't seen Mirza Ghalib, but my favorite Suraiya's movie as an actress is Dastaan with Raj Kapoor. As a singer... I like most of her movies. biggrin.gif Badi Behan was also a nice watchable movie, but I didn't like Dillagi at all...

Anmol Ghadi was also a nice movie... I also find Suraiya more charming than Noor Jehan in this film + I liked Suraiya's songs better than Noor Jehan. Noor Jehan was pregnant at that time I think, and she looks plumpy and bubbly and her acting was completely wooden in the movie.

Noor Jehan best movies (as an actress) came after partition and she looks very pretty in Koel and Intezar.


I have referred to several sources and by all accounts she was born in lahore and later moved to Bombay....wikipedia is the only site on where her birth place is mentioned as Gujranwala, Punjab...


I dont think Suraiya started her career as early as 1937... her first film was as child artiste was Taj Mahal [/b[b]] (1941). Incidentally,PrithivirajKapoor was the hero of her first and last film as heroine (Ishara - 1943 and Rustom Sohrab - 1963). She acted with three Kapoors (father + 2 sons) - Raj Kapoor in Dastaan, Shammi Kapoor in Shama Parwana and Prithviraj Kapoor as mentioned above. According to Devinder Bir Kaur "Thus, by the age of 12, she was doing the heroine’s role in Ishara. She was so skinny that they had to pad her all over! And, what was more, she was opposite the ‘grand old man of the Indian screen’, namely Prithviraj Kapoor, who was in his mid-40s. Like everyone in the unit, she too called him ‘Papaji’! Prithviraj admitted that it was difficult romancing with a girl he would call ‘daughter’ when the camera wasn’t whirring. "


Suraiya made her debut as a child artiste in Usne kya socha in 1937.Her films as a child artiste ran between 1937 and 1941.In 1941 she played the role of a young Mumtaz mahal in the film Taj Mahal....

(Ref:Wikipedia)



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Thanks so much REETH for those picture as well as information.
By the way, speaking of yesteryear actress, do you have anything on REHANA? I haven't seen her name being mentioned as yet since the time I joined HF a year ago.


NASIR.



Nasir this is what i found on the net about Rehana........

REHANA





She appeared on the silver screen sometime in the late 30's acting in minor roles but soon took the cine world by storm....Made her major debut as a leading lady in "Hum Ek Hain" with Dev Anand...which was incidentally his first film too ...
With the exception of Dilip Kumar Rehana acted with all top heroes of her era...
Dilruba with dev Ananad
Sargam
and
sunehre Din with Raj kapoor
Cham chama cham with Kishore kumar
Sagai with Premnath
Actress with prem Adeeb
Adaa with Shekar

Some of the best Lata Mangeshkar songs were picturised on her...
Koi kisika deewana na baney.....Sargam
Zamaney ka dastoor hai yeh.....Laajawab
Tum kya jaano tumhari yaad mein.....Shin shinaki babla boo
Preetam mere duniya mein....Adaa
Mohobat mein aise .....Sagaai

Her memrable movies were...
Shehnai
Saajan
Sunehra Din
Sargam
Sagaai
Adaa
Dilruba
Shin shinaki babla boo....

After completing her last films in 1956," Delhi Darbaar "and "Qeemat ", she migrated to Pakistan....
She acted in a few films in Pakistan, but failed to impress......later married a film poducer...
She is widowed and leading a life of seclusion in pakistan now...



Seems even the songs you mentioned above are all mellifluous. Not to speak of those well-known movies.
Of course I don't remember seeing those movies except SHIN SHINAKI BUBALA BOO as a very small kid at the Imperial Theatre or perhaps the Swatik. But don't remember a thing from it. The title song of this movie I do remember the line. I wonder whether this was a mythical movie and whether the swashbuckling RANJAN was her hero.

I specially asked for REHANA's info since my dad had informed me that he had purchased the house of Rehana before her migration to Pakistan.

NASIR.


According to Encyclopedia of Indian Cinema, Shin Shinaki Boobla Boo was orientalist fantasy. This film was the unlikely first victim of the censor board, an action enabled by the Indian Cinematograph Act passed that year. Given a Universal certificate by the censors, the Ministry of Information and Broadcasting banned the film because it `throws the glamour of romance and heroism over criminal characters, treats sacred subjects irreverently and is, in consequence, opposed to the interests of public decency and morality'. The ban was later revoked but ruined the film's commercial chances.


Rehana was a popular actress of those times, she was very good dancer too... but her acting was considered vulgar according to the standards of those days. Her bathtub scene in Dilruba + anyone who has seen Sunehre Din... Nigar Sultana and Rehana were too close in that film... looks like as if the film was portraying lesbianism to some extent. Lyricist P.L. Santoshi, was desperately, but unsuccessfully, in love with Rehana. It is said that he spent the entire night outside her closed door and the next morning gave vent to his feelings through the lyrics of "Tum kya jaano, tumhari yaad mein hum kitna royen". biggrin.gif

Btw Reeth, the picture + article on Rehana was from my website.


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all were great...i like all nargis,madhubala,meena kumari,nutan,geeta bali,vyajaynthimala,waheeda rehmaan etc
i dont like beena rai(i guess she was even not deserving best actress award for ghoonghat,madhubala was 1000 times better than her in mughle azam)..supporting actresses like nadira and nimmi were also good

Jassi, Bina rai is considered to be nearly as beautiful as Madhubala,talent???.....am not sure.. i have seen 3 of her movies Anarkali,Tajmahal and Vallah kya baat hai.....and believe me she is Gorgeous.. wub.gif biggrin.gif




QUOTE(noorie @ Apr 26 2007, 07:17 PM) *

You are right Reeth, Daera was a really depressing movie. But I don't mind watching it again and again just 4 Meena ji's sake.
To be married 2 an old man and then find urself hopelessly in love with someone else; if that isn't a tragedy, I don't know what is. sad.gif

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I agree with Jassi..... I find Bina Roy as an annoying actress along with her dumb facial expressions. Anarkali (1953) technically + acting wise was poor film in my opinion, it was only because of its songs i think that the films did great business. Both Bina Roy and Pradeep Kumar were annoying in this film. Bina Roy was neither a good actress nor a good dancer.



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i m more madhubala fan,and i felt without a reason beena was always compared with legendry beauty

1.Madhubala was said to be having affair with premnath,but later he married beena rai..(i guess after madhubala's break up with dilip,prem was new man in her life,but he went for bina rai..well i too wud not have like madhubala n premnath together..but i do like premnath as an actor

2.Madhubala was all set to play anarkali when nargis walked out of mughle azam,but at the same time an another film was announced anarkali with bina rai..mughle azam took too much time to get complete..n anarkali come first and got success,but mughle azam which was declaired flop,became a big blockbuster

3.There were talks that both looks similer..there might be,but not for me,madhubala is lifetime beauty..

4.Most big thing which pinched me Filmfare Award,Madhubala was deserving this award,but it went to Beena Rai,she might be good in that film,but not at her best the way madhubala was..if u dont know abt ghoonghat,let me tell u ghar ghar ki kahani(1988)starring rishi,jayaprada,anita raj,govinda n farha was inspired from ghoonghat..but see tday we remember Madhubala n Mughle Azam,but nobody is knowing much abt Ghoonghat and Bina Rai

i give u 4 reasons why i dont like bina rai much


The only comparison with Madhubala is that Bina rai did resemble her from some angles and was indeed very beautiful,but Madhubala was a class apart ......probably the other thing they had in common was Premnth...
Bina Rai and Premnath starred in Aurat ,Shagufa,Samunder,Watan and Prisoner of Golconda
All of them were resounding flops...
But she did act in some good movies
Khali ghata
Meenar
Anarkali
Insaniyat
Durgesh nandini
Mera salaam
Bandi
Taj Mahal
Ghunghat
Daadi ma

with pradeep kumar in Taj Mahal
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i think in last pic its geeta bali..
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post Apr 27 2007, 02:45 PM
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It is Bina rai...i have seen the film Vallah kya baat hai and this is a song sequence..Ek to surat pyari....



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Thanks a lot Jassi.... smile.gif



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